Sarah Palin the perfect NWO Zionist

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The Palin church
http://blog.beliefnet.com/crunchycon/2008/09/the-palin-church.html
Saturday September 6, 2008

posted by Rod Dreher @10:33am Permalink  Email This  Add to »

Categories: Protestantism/Evangelicalism, Republicans


The New York Times pays a visit to Sarah Palin's church, the Wasilla Bible Church. I'm sure there will be more to come, but for the life of me I can't see what the big deal is. She believes the Bible is true and leaders should seek God's will in their vocations. Shocked, shocked, I am by this. Excerpts:
Interviews with the two pastors she has been most closely associated with here in her hometown -- she now attends the Wasilla Bible Church, though she keeps in touch with Mr. Riley and recently spoke at an event at his former church -- and with friends and acquaintances who have worshipped with her point to a firm conclusion: her foundation and source of guidance is the Bible, and with it has come a conviction to be God's servant.

Clearly this woman is a dangerous Christianist lunatic. More:
Larry Kroon, who has been the presiding pastor at Wasilla Bible for the last 30 years, declined to describe Ms. Palin's beliefs or the role she plays in the church, but suggested that she is more of a back-bencher than a leading light.

"Todd and Sarah come in as Todd and Sarah -- they're very discreet about it," he said, referring to Ms. Palin's husband.

One of the musical directors at the church, Adele Morgan, who has known Ms. Palin since the third grade, said the Palins moved to the nondenominational Wasilla Bible Church in 2002, in part because its ministry is less "extreme" than Pentecostal churches like the Assemblies of God, which practice speaking in tongues and miraculous healings.


And:

"A lot of churches are about music and media and having a big profile," Ms. Morgan said. "We are against that. That is why it is so attractive to politicians because they can just sit there and be safe."


"We've gotten a lot of their people when the other churches get too extreme," Ms. Morgan continued. However, she added, "If you lift your hands when we're singing, we're not going to shoot you down."

There's a bit in the story about how the church just hosted a Jews for Jesus speaker, and how that news has upset Jewish groups. If I were Jewish, I wouldn't like Jews for Jesus either, but it's normative for Christian churches to want Jews (and Muslims, and secularists, and everybody else) to convert to Christianity. All I'd want to know about Sarah Palin's relationship to Jews is a) does she hold anti-Semitic views, and b) does she support Israel? If the answers are No and Yes, respectively, then what's the big deal?

Again, I wouldn't be surprised if more controversial and objectionable stuff emerged out of this church. If it does, we'll deal with it here -- though note well that the Palins have been part of this church for six years, and seem from this report to have been less close to the church's leadership than Barack Obama was to the controversial leadership of his Chicago church, where he was a member for 20 years. For now, though, the Wasilla Bible Church doesn't raise any alarms in me. It looks more or less like a normal American Christian church. Not one I'd go to, but then again, my theological views aren't typical for the US. If you're scared of Bible church people and those folks from that part of the Christian world, then you're scared of a huge number of your fellow Americans.

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Palin assures strong support for Israel
http://www.arabnews.com/?page=4&section=0&article=113975&d=8&m=9&y=2008
Barbara Ferguson I Arab News   

“An online video interview of Palin that is currently making the rounds appears to put to rest liberal rumors that she is no friend of Israel,” notes a recent article in Israel Today.

WASHINGTON: Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s religious life and her beliefs have become a topic of intense interest and scrutiny here — due to her recent meteoric rise from relative obscurity to Sen. John McCain’s vice presidential running mate.

Press interviews with the two pastors she is most closely associated with in Wasilla, her hometown in Alaska — the Assembly of God and the Wasilla Bible Church — say her foundation and source of guidance is the Bible, and with that has come her conviction to act as God’s servant.

“The churches that Sarah has attended all believe in a literal interpretation of the Bible,” Janet Kincaid, who has known and worked with Palin for the last 15 years, told reporters. “Her principal ethical and moral beliefs stem from this.”

One of the music directors at the church, Adele Morgan, who has known Palin since she was in third grade, told reporters the Palins moved to the nondenominational Wasilla Bible Church because its ministry is less “extreme” than Pentecostal churches like her previous church, the Assembly of God, which practices speaking in tongues and miraculous healings.

Some Jewish groups, meanwhile, have raised concerns about Palin since the announcement that she would be on the Republican ticket.

Just last week, Sen. Joseph Lieberman “helped introduce Palin to officials of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), the leading pro-Israel lobby,” noted The Washington Post on Friday.

“In a meeting Tuesday, the day before she delivered her primetime address at the Republican National Convention, Palin assured the group of her strong support for Israel, of her desire to see the United States move its embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and of her opposition to Iran’s aspirations to become a nuclear power,” said The Washington Post.

Curiously, The Washington Post repeated the AIPAC tidbit at the bottom of the same story.

“One of Palin’s few meetings this week with outside groups was with AIPAC, a sign of how politically important it is for the GOP ticket to demonstrate its support of Israel,” noted the newspaper.

“We had a good, productive discussion on the importance of the US-Israel relationship, and we were pleased that Gov. Palin expressed her deep, personal commitment to the safety and well-being of Israel,” AIPAC spokesman Josh Block told The Washington Post. “She also expressed her support for the special friendship between the two democracies and said she would work to strengthen the ties between the United States and Israel.”

Israeli newspapers have already vetted the Republican candidate for veep. “Palin displays an Israeli flag in her office window despite the tiny Jewish population in her state. Republicans say, ‘That says it all.’ An online video interview of Palin that is currently making the rounds appears to put to rest liberal rumors that she is no friend of Israel,” notes a recent article in Israel Today. “In the interview with Alaska HDTV, an Israeli flag is clearly seen hanging near the window of Palin’s office.”

Israel National News blogger Tamar Yonah points out that these appearances of the Israeli flag are made more significant by the fact that the video “was not made by a Jewish organization, nor is (Palin) speaking before a Jewish audience or catering to any Jewish vote.”

Palin has yet to travel to Israel, and she traveled outside the US for the first time last year.

The Israel-based Jerusalem Post recently called her “an odd choice” for the job.

“Palin is another story. She is an exceedingly odd choice for a party which has spent the better part of the past year loudly exclaiming that it was reaching out to Jewish voters and made much to do about considering two Jewish legislators — Joe Lieberman and Eric Cantor — as vice presidential possibilities.

“First, Palin has absolutely no foreign policy experience — it is ironic that McCain has spent his spring and summer telling Americans that the most important characteristic he is looking for in a vice president is an individual who is ready on day one to assume the presidency. Moreover, Palin has never visited Israel and besides signing a pro-Israel resolution passed by the state legislature, she has apparently never spoken out or focused on the Jewish state.”

And the Israel-based Ha’aretz compared the newly named vice presidential nominee to her Democratic counterpart Sen. Joe Biden. The statement went on to say “The contrast with Joe Biden could not be starker and more unfavorable for the soon-to-be Republican nominee.”

In contrast, the Republican Jewish Coalition issued a very different response to McCain’s running mate selection, saying that the choice demonstrated his good judgment and commitment to challenging politics as usual.

“As governor of Alaska, Palin has enjoyed a strong working relationship with Alaska’s Jewish community. She has demonstrated sensitivity to the concerns of the community and has been accessible and responsive,” said Republican Jewish Coalition Executive Director Matt Brooks.

Politico.com writes, “John McCain may have helped Obama with his Jewish problem by choosing Palin as his running mate.

“McCain and Obama are battling over a portion of the Jewish community: Older, conservative Democrats, largely in South Florida, some of whom backed Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary. McCain’s secular, hawkish credentials appeal to many in that group, who are skeptical of Obama’s relatively short record and have been deluged with rumors about his pro-Palestinian leanings.

“But Democrats hope Palin’s social conservatism, her paper-thin record on Israel and — perhaps most importantly — her cultural roots in evangelical Christianity may be a major turnoff to Jewish voters, just as Republicans have tried to reach women disappointed that Obama didn’t choose Hillary Clinton.”

Politico.com also noted: “A prominent Obama backer, Florida Rep. Robert Wexler, has attacked Palin for appearing at a 1999 event with Pat Buchanan — who has attacked the influence of the Israeli lobby in America. And the same factors that are rallying the evangelical base to Palin may push away the Jews.”

The executive director of the National Jewish Democratic Council, Ira Forman, cited the “cultural distance” between Palin and almost all American Jews.

“She’s totally out of step with the American Jewish community,” he said. “She is against reproductive freedom — even against abortion in the case of rape and incest. She has said that climate change is not man-made. She has said that she would favor teaching creationism in the schools. These are all way, way, way outside the mainstream.”

In the meantime, however, there’s simply little information available about Palin’s views. Two of Palin’s prominent Alaska Jewish allies, Rabbi Joseph Greenberg and businessman Terry Gorlick, told Politico.com they consider her a friend of the Jews. But they said they’d never heard her discuss Middle East policy in detail and that she’d never visited Israel, though they cited a boilerplate Alaska-Israel friendship resolution she signed.

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Is Sarah Palin a Hidden Zionist?
http://watchingamerica.com/News/5474/is-sarah-palin-a-hidden-zionist/
Translated By Mohammad Tamizifar

September 4th, 2008


Iran - Farda News - Original Article (Farsi)

The sex scandal involving the Republican’s vice presidential nominee’s daughter arose when an Israeli news agency reported that Sarah Palin may be a Zionist.

Farda reports from the Israeli National News that during an interview by Scott Eslon in Sarah Palin's office, he found out that she is a Zionist and loves Israel.

In a photo showing her office, there is a small Israeli flag on the right upper corner by the window and an Israeli flag on her blue collar.

The interesting point is that one would normally be speaking to the Israeli people in order to wave their flag, however, she was not in front of the Israeli people and was still waving their flag. If Sarah Palin is really a Zionist, it’s better to tell the Zionists so they can celebrate.

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Sarah Palin: A Closet Zionist?
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Blogs/Message.aspx/2998
by 2 Elul 5768, 9/2/2008



Jake from Alaska sent me a very interesting video of an Alaskan podcast that promotes hiking and tourism in Alaska.  In this podcast (video below) from February 2008, way before Gov. Sarah Palin was touted to be the Republican vice-presidential candidate, the host of the show, Scott Slone interviewed her in her office.

What is interesting in this story is that 2 minutes and 40 seconds in, the camera shows clearly, an Israeli flag near her office window (to the right of the frame).  As well, if one looks closely, it seems she is wearing an Israeli flag pin* on her left lapel (see 2:55 into video).  So, the question is, is Sarah Palin a closet Zionist? Is she a friend of the Jewish people and Israel?    *NOTE: It has been brought to my attention that the pin on her lapel is probably not an Israeli flag. Someone suggested that it may be a Blue Star Mothers of America pin, and it has red stripes, not blue which is hard to see. Here is a link showing the photo of what the pin she is wearing probably is.



Click on video Below.


What is important to note here is, that this video was not made by a Jewish organization, nor is she speaking before a Jewish audience or catering to any Jewish vote.  We know of many politicians wearing an Israeli flag pin or waving an Israeli flag when attending Israel's Independence Day celebrations or speaking in front of a Jewish audience, but this is not the case here.

I haven't done much research on Gov. Palin (yet) but watching this video leaves one, well, it just leaves one feeling good.  If she is a closet Zionist, she should come out and tell us so.  Millions of others just like her, may just follow suit.

* To watch the entire video (that I edited for brevity) click HERE.   7 minutes and 13 seconds into the video, the camera hones in on the pin on her lapel which looks like an Israeli flag.  It is in HD so is much sharper there than in the video above.

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Wow maybe we can find the Zionists before they get elected in 2008 rather than after.

We are pretty clear about McCain and Biden's vews concerning AIPAC.  Obama seems to be readily drinking the kool aid as well.  So it seems now that Sarah Palin rounds out the top 4 in their quest to have more BS of unlimited, unregulated support of Israel, wishing of the rapture, and not giving a crap about anyone's liberties.

The 2008 presidential farce election...in everyone's face.

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Friday, August 29, 2008
http://www.philipvickersfithian.com/2008/08/does-sarah-palin-speak-in-tongues.html
Does Sarah Palin Speak in Tongues?

We know she is an Alaskan reformer. We know she is pro-life. We know she was a beauty queen and a basketball star. We know she eats moose burgers. But does Sarah Palin speak in tongues?

According to some reports, Palin attends church at the Juneau Christian Center, a congregation affiliated with the Assembly of God, the largest Pentecostal denomination in the world. Pentecostals are evangelicals who believe in a doctrine called the “baptism of the Holy Spirit,” an intense spiritual encounter with God that often results in unintelligible utterances commonly known as “speaking in tongues.”

They are also distinguished by their emphasis on faith healing, their belief in the rapture (the sudden return of Jesus Christ in the air to take all true believers to heaven), and their emotional, hand-waving style of Christian worship. Disgraced televangelists Jimmy Swaggart and Jim Bakker are Pentecostals. Elvis Presley and Jerry Lee Lewis were raised in the denomination.

Palin was born a Catholic, but her parents abandoned their commitment to Rome when she was young and began attending evangelical churches. She appears to have spent most of her childhood at the Wasilla Assembly of God Church. Her youth pastor, Mike Boatsman, formerly served as the Alaskan Superintendent of the Assembly of God Church. Earlier this year, at a gathering of Alaskan members of the denomination, Boatsman and Mike Rose, the pastor of the Juneau Christian Center, laid hands on Palin (a Christian symbol of consecration) and prayed for her and the state of Alaska.

Palin is not the first Pentecostal politician to gain national attention. James Watt, the Secretary of the Interior under Ronald Reagan, was a member of an Assembly of God Church. Like most Pentecostals, Watt shunned certain forms of popular entertainment as being too worldly. In 1983, he banned the Beach Boys from playing a Fourth of July concert on the National Mall because, as he said, they drew an “undesirable element”

John Ashcroft, George W. Bush’s Attorney General and the controversial enforcer of the Patriot Act, was the son of an Assembly of God minister and a Pentecostal clergyman himself. In addition to a distinguished career in politics, Ashcroft was a gospel song writer. He also used Crisco cooking oil to anoint himself before serving his two terms as Missouri governor.

The Beach Boys and Crisco aside, Pentecostal politicians usually shy away from talking about religious practices such as the “baptism of the holy spirit” or “speaking in tongues.” Ashcroft the politician seldom called attention to these important dimensions of his faith.

We can expect the same from Palin. She will be a crusader for pro-life causes and traditional marriage, but will avoid speaking about some of the religious practices of her upbringing that some mainstream Americans—even many mainstream evangelicals-- may consider strange. (In this sense her approach will be similar to the way Mitt Romney refused to talk about the intricacies of his Mormon faith). In fact, in an interview with Time, Palin called herself a “Bible-believing Christian” who attends a “non-denominational Bible Church.” She has yet to call herself a “Pentecostal.”

Palin is a serious evangelical who will rally John McCain’s conservative base, but don’t expect a tongues-speaking Holy Ghost revival to break out next week in Minneapolis.

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Palin's Beliefs Draw Closer Scrutiny
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/09/politics/animal/main4429553.shtml
By Steve Benen Sep 9, 2008

PALIN'S BELIEFS DRAW CLOSER SCRUTINY.... At the outset, it's important to note that Sarah Palin is free to embrace any religious beliefs she wants. It's between her and her conscience what, or even whether, she believes. For that matter, the Constitution makes it abundantly clear that there is no religious test for public office.

But there's been a push of late, most notably from the right, to make candidates' spirituality an important aspect of evaluating those seeking national office. And with that in mind, Palin's beliefs, which stray a bit from the mainstream, are drawing closer scrutiny.

For more than two decades, vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin was a practicing Pentecostal.She belonged to the Wasilla Assembly of God church in her hometown of Wasilla, Alaska. But though she attended the church from her teenage years to 2002, the Alaska governor hasn't talked much about her religion since joining the Republican ticket.

Palin's former pastor, Tim McGraw, says that like many Pentecostal churches, some members speak in tongues, although he says he's never seen Palin do so. Church member Caroline Spangler told CNN, "When the spirit comes on you, you utter things that nobody else can understand ... only God can understand what is coming out of our mouths."

Some Pentecostals from Assembly of God also believe in "faith healing" and the "end times" -- a violent upheaval that they believe will deliver Jesus Christ's second coming.

The McCain campaign told CNN that Palin "doesn't consider herself Pentecostal," but McGraw said Palin's Pentecostal roots may be being downplayed for political reasons. The campaign would not elaborate further of Palin's spirituality, saying only that she has "deep religious convictions."

Now, there are probably going to be some who look askance at a practicing Pentecostal who attends a church where people speak in tongues, and people are free to draw their own conclusions about their comfort level. From my perspective, I'm very much inclined to consider all of this a personal matter, outside the political realm.

I do, however, think Palin, given her public comments, should answer a few reasonable questions:

* Does she believe in the separation of church and state? Is she comfortable with a government that remains entirely neutral on matters of faith?

* Does she believe public officials should use religious beliefs to shape public policy? Palin recently said those fighting the war in Iraq are "out on a task that is from God," and added, in the same remarks, that "God's will" was responsible for a national gas pipeline project in Alaska. Might she be willing to elaborate on what this means?

[Geolibertarian]

Yet more proof that this so-called "election" is yet another so-called "choice" between (a) more reckless interventionism overseas and police state expansionism here at home, and (b) more reckless interventionism overseas and police state expansionism here at home! 

Anyone who votes for either McCain or Obama is voting for his or her own enslavement, it's as simple as that.

I'm reminded of the following quote:

"Would the essence of slavery change if the rules at a slave auction permitted a slave to choose between the two highest bidders for himself? Could the fact that he made such a choice be interpreted as his sanction for his chains? How can it be argued that the citizen is free in a democracy when he has the choice of two candidates if neither candidate is willing to recognize his right to freedom?" -- James Bovard, Freedom In Chains, p. 132

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"Would the essence of slavery change if the rules at a slave auction permitted a slave to choose between the two highest bidders for himself?

Could the fact that he made such a choice be interpreted as his sanction for his chains?

How can it be argued that the citizen is free in a democracy when he has the choice of two candidates if neither candidate is willing to recognize his right to freedom?"


-- James Bovard, Freedom In Chains, p. 132

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blah! Looks like its back to Baldwin for me.

The only redeeming value for republican ticket is that they are less likely to appoint supreme court judges that would support the ongoing eugenics programs or judges that would further erode the 2nd amendment.

Then there's the chance that the 9/11 truth movement will be too big for them to ignore while in office.

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Their philosophy is simple.  Rule or Ruin.

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SARAH PALIN, DARLING OF CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS.
http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month=09&year=2008&base_name=sarah_palin_darling_of_christi
September 5, 2008

There has been growing attention on Sarah Palin's church background, the dominionist worldview reflected in some of her statements and those of her pastors, and an apparent affection between churches she attends and organizations like Jews for Jesus and Christians United for Israel.

According to the Christian Zionist group The Jerusalem Connection International (whose leader, James Hutchens, broke this year with John Hagee's Christians United for Israel over Hagee's book that backpedaled on the imperative to convert Jews to Christianity), Palin, accompanied by Joe Lieberman, convened this week with representatives of the the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), and met with their approval. Of special note for The Jerusalem Connection is that the evangelical Palin, who also received the blessing of Rabbi Yossi Greenberg, the Alaska emissary for the Hassidic Chabad sect, keeps an Israeli flag in her office:

The Jerusalem Connection had this to add about Palin:
Sarah Palin is the liberal's worst nightmare. The Medianite's attacks on her have been and will no doubt continue to be vicious. Let's face it, they are desparate to see her defeated. Therefore God's people must undergird her in prayer -- for God's protection, for wisdom, discernment and uncommon courage. She is indeed a "Game Changer." As a matter of fact the elections here in the United States and in Israel will also be "game changers," regardless of who wins. Pray that the change that occurs will be more closely aligned with God's Word, especially regarding Israel.

"More closely aligned with God's Word." Meaning more closely aligned with the Christian Zionist apocalyptic vision for the Middle East than the Bush Administration has been.

--Sarah Posner

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IMHO she might be The Whore of Babylon

I can see Mc Insane being 'replaced' via natural causes or the LBJ method, which would leave S. Palin in charge.

Of course I hope I am wrong

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Wow!  The following is some pretty heavy duty smackdown stuff (caveat: I have not sifted through all of it yet, but some parts seem to be right on the money):

Here is a little bit about this constitutional author:

"Mark Dankof is a broadcaster for the Republic Broadcasting Network. A member of the Taft/Buchanan wing of the Republican Party historically, his radio show and print op-ed productions for BATR's Columnist Guild and the American Free Press warn of the dangers of a takeover of the American Republic by the advocates of globalism, central banking, and World Zionism. He is a severe critic of the Bush Administration's War on Terror, the influence of Jewish Neo-Conservatives on American foreign policy and culture, and the increasing utilization of American military might abroad as a first resort rather than the last. Like Mark Glenn and Michael Collins Piper of the American Free Press, Dankof represents a minority viewpoint within the American Right Wing in advocating an independent, autonomous Palestinian State and the serious curtailment of the domestic influence of the Israeli lobby in the government and news media of the United States."

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The Whore of Babylon By the Potomac: Sarah Palin and John McCain's Unfurling Program of Treason and Death
http://blogs.albawaba.com/kramfoknad/1539/2008/09/06/97357-the-whore-of-babylon-by-the-potomac-sarah-palin-and-john-mccain-s-unfurling-program-of-treason-and-death
06 September, 2008

    P. T. Barnum’s famous dictum about a sucker born every minute becomes apocalyptically axiomatic when applied to a fawning Republican Christian Right constituency infatuated with Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska, John McCain’s latest gambit in a bid to win the American Presidency for both the Senator and an Israeli Lobby lurking just behind the Arizonan in a subterranean underworld of manipulation and intrigue.  One thing is clear: the endgame is both treason and a massive dosage of death on a global scale.

    During the past week, my mind subconsciously switched off the Republican National Convention and the Palin speech, even before my right hand confirmed this mental selection by consciously pressing the “off” button on my television remote control.  As my mind blanched at the dreadfully deceptive televised scenario unfolding in St. Paul, it simultaneously wandered in a reverse direction in time.

    The journey into the past took me back to August of 1996 and the Republican National Convention of that year in San Diego.  For the record, I was one of the Buchanan supporters who left the Republican Party in the wake of the events of that election cycle, which culminated in the disastrous nomination of Bob Dole for President in California.  I never turned back.  I would never vote for a Republican Presidential nominee again.

    I remember the departure from San Diego like it was yesterday.  My small clothes bag and toiletries kit were tossed in the back of a vehicle owned by one of Buchanan’s longtime operatives, who had committed himself to transporting me back to the Texas Hill Country on his own way back to the East Coast.  His own gear was unceremoniously tossed into the spacious trunk whose lid was subsequently slammed shut.  The announcement of final departure was a terse, “Let’s get the hell out of here.”  As we sped out of San Diego, headed east on Interstate 10, the sun was setting in the west–not only on California and the Pacific Ocean, but on our own lives and the American Republic as well.  And we knew it.

    From my vantage point now, the decision to leave was a sound one.  Twelve years later, the United States is mired in a no-win war of counterinsurgency in the Middle East and Central Asia that should never have been started to begin with.  The national debt has doubled just since the tenure of George W. Bush in the White House.  The manufacturing sector of the economy continues its eclipse.  The foreign invasion of America represented by the existence of 20 million illegal aliens continues apace as well, with the full blessing of the current Presidential nominee of the Republican Party, who also endorses a brand of New World Order globalism embodied in the North American Union, NAFTA, GATT, the WTO, the FTAA, and the utilization of NATO as a Neo-Conservative police force in endless disputes abroad. 

    Not to worry, however–Mr. McCain and his fawning delegates in St. Paul will insure that the imagery of Old Glory and the long gone glory days of the Old American Republic Past are employed to sell P. T. Barnum’s Faithful on the palatability of this malignant package of evil exponentially multiplied by the speed of time and light.  They will have plenty of minions within the transnational corporate news media to assist in closing the deal.  The endgame of the project to close the deal is an aerial assault on Iran, possibly with tactical nuclear weapons. Make no mistake about it, the dark forces behind the McCain Presidential candidacy, epitomized by the peripatetic Joseph Lieberman, are angling for this tragic outcome.   If the Arizonan makes 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, as Pat Buchanan has recently indicated, the path to war with Iran will be virtually guaranteed.

    One is reminded of the warning of Jesus in the Olivet Discourse–that before His second coming, a great deception would envelop the world, capable, were it possible, of deceiving the very elect.

    This deception crucially depends on the Palin selection.  The current bogus controversy over her daughter’s out-of-wedlock pregnancy, a controversially disemployed ex-brother-in-law, and the vetting process that led to the Governor’s selection, is further evidence of the media’s ability to divert the public from the real issue in considering the Alaskan as a future Vice President of the United States.  Will the deception and diversion succeed?  Time will tell.

    It is abundantly clear that Sarah Palin’s choice as the Arizona Senator’s running mate is based upon a number of obvious factors.  One is the desire to re-cast the Republican Party as a changing mechanism open to new constituencies and creative strategies to expand the party base.  Even more obviously, the choice represents John McCain’s best attempt to reassure the anti-abortion Protestant Evangelical Right, the core constituency of the Republican base, that the Senator and his program are their own, and that the election of Barack Obama is simply an unthinkable alternative.  The Arizonan is banking on being able to create and sustain this latter visceral fear among both Republican delegates specifically and average American voters generally.   

    But the most crucial rationale for the Palin pick is the latter’s ability to maternally sell the American public on a continued Neo-Conservative course of war and conflict in the Middle East, where the armed forces of the United States and its accompanying national security establishment are placed at the complete disposal of the Zionist State of Israel.  The sell job will involve Mrs. Palin’s beautiful smile, her winsome children and grandchildren, and her public relations identification with small-town America.  Had Joseph Lieberman moved into the Number Two slot, the demonic implications of the selection would have been too immediately obvious and razor-edged to deny.  With Palin, treason and mass murder look more packageable and palatable to a comatosely moronic American electorate.  Today’s tragedy in Palestine, Iraq, and Afghanistan is shortly to be expanded to include Iran and Pakistan, not to mention the southern Caucusus as recently documented by F. William Engdahl.  Bet on it.

    As chronicled by Michael Abromowitz and Juliet Eilperin in “Experts Helping Palin Brush Up on Foreign Policy,” found on page A25 of the September 5, 2008 Washington Post, Palin’s introduction to her real handlers–and McCain’s–has already commenced.  The sockpuppetry isn’t even being hidden in corporate media anymore.  Check out the following from that revealing piece:

“Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman is among several national security experts helping brief Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin on foreign policy issues as she prepares to hit the campaign trail while cramming for a debate with her Democratic opponent, Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (Del.), in less than a month, according to officials from Sen. John McCain's campaign.

“Lieberman, who was the 2000 Democratic vice presidential nominee but is now an independent, has helped introduce Palin to officials of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, the leading pro-Israel lobby. In a meeting Tuesday, the day before she delivered her prime-time address at the Republican National Convention here, Palin assured the group of her strong support for Israel, of her desire to see the United States move its embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and of her opposition to Iran's aspirations to become a nuclear power, according to sources familiar with the meeting.”

    The AIPAC/Lieberman indoctrination of Palin is not the only arrow in McCain’s quiver.  The Zionist cash and logistical support which lie behind Cindy McCain’s Anheuser-Bush fortune, are her husband’s perceived ace-in-the-hole in this entirely duplicitous process.  Michael Collins Piper of the American Free Press has already chronicled the links of Mrs. McCain’s father, Jim Hensley, with the Meyer Lansky/Edgar Bronfman Jewish crime syndicate’s operation in the Grand Canyon State. It was this linkage that provided Mr. Hensley with the largesse publicly linked to the seemingly innocuous beer empire in the Grand Canyon State.   

    And it was John McCain’s father, Admiral John S. McCain, Sr., who was the United States Navy’s key official in suppressing Israel’s role in the deliberate attack upon the USS Liberty during the Six Day War in June of 1967, a suppression ordered by both Lyndon Johnson and Robert McNamara.  These ugly truths, taken in the aggregate, begin to give the composite picture as to what really lies behind the current McCain’s ascendancy to the Republican nomination for the Presidency of the United States.

    The Arizona State Motto is “Ditat Deus,” or "God Enriches."  But McCain and Palin have found another pathway to enrichment–at the potential expense of every innocent person on the planet.

    This collectively sinister picture begins to look panoramic in scope after reading three articles this past week.  The first comes courtesy of the September 2008 NewsMax.  In an article entitled, “The Influencers,” the Jewish-Zionist lock on the Republican Party becomes unmistakably apparent when the dossiers of NewsMax’s pick of the top 25 Republicans in America is critically analyzed.  The article’s revelatory character is magnified when read in tandem with two additional pieces in the September/October 2008 Washington Report on Middle East Affairs (WRMEA).  Those essays, respectively, are “Israeli Spying on the United States,” by Andrew J. Killgore, which includes Janet McMahon’s “Rogues Gallery of American Israel-Firsters,” and Laurence A. Toenjes’s “McCain, Lieberman and Iraq: ‘Till Death Do Us Part'.”

    The NewsMax expose reads like a Who’s Who of the Zionist web of intrigue that has replaced the Old American Right in the Republican Party with the mantra of a Jewish-connected Neo-Conservatism which has merged the idea of the acceptability of a domestic police state with the deployment of the American military and intelligence community abroad, wherever and whenever Tel Aviv and transnational consortiums deem it necessary. Under the categories of “Insiders and Strategists,” and “Political Activists,” there are the usual American Enterprise Institute, Project for the New American Century, and Religious Right listings–including the Gingrichs, the Kristols, the Vin Webers, the DeLays, Dobsons, Lands, and Ralph Reeds of the world.

    One fascinating tidbit comes under the listing for longtime Republican dirtball, Roger Stone of Rothstein Rosenfeldt Adler’s press and public relations division.  For those who recall Mark Glenn’s American Free Press expose of the Mossad role in exposing the Eliot Spitzer sex scandal (ditto for the Jim McGreevey affair), it is of particular interest that NewsMax reports that The New York Post, a Rupert Murdoch publication, credits Roger Stone with being the conduit for the FBI tip that led to Spitzer’s demise.  Where did Stone get his information?  You can come to your own conclusions.

    But the most fascinating information provided by NewsMax comes under the heading of the “Money Makers.” MCA talent agent and Univision CEO Jerry Perenchio, Giuliani-connected oilman T. Boone Pickens, Mercer Reynolds, Giuliani-connected William E. Simon, Jr., and Richard M. Scaife are all among the heavy hitters.

    But the top two of the “Money Makers” say it all.  Check out Las Vegas gambling mogul, Sheldon Adelson, of the Sands Corporation, the 3rd richest American according to NewsMax, and linked to Benjamin Netanyahu, Rudolph Giuliani, and Tom DeLay.  Mr. Adelson is the main backer behind the pro-Zionist Freedom’s Watch.  His links to Israel were the subject of a recent London Financial Times article.  And take a look at Ronald Lauder, President of the World Jewish Congress, linked to George Pataki, Ronald Reagan, Al D’Amato, and the ever-present Benjamin Netanyahu.  These are the two top players in raising cash for the Republican Party of McCain and Palin.  Can the implications really be this obvious, except to P. T. Barnum’s Faithful in St. Paul, Minnesota?

    The aforementioned Toenjes, Killgore, and McMahon pieces for the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs (WRMEA) provide the rest of the damning evidence of the web of connections among the individuals and organizations comprising the clandestine Zionist nexus in the government of the United States. 

    You can see the Toenjes research for yourself at http://www.opednews.com/toenjessummary.htm.  He reminds us that John McCain and Joseph Lieberman became the honorary chairs of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq (CLI), shortly after casting their votes in October of 2002 to “authorize” Mr. Bush’s invasion of Iraq.

    Toenjes then proceeds to show the web of relationships between the CLI and other relevant Zionist-oriented think tanks and structures, including the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA), the Defense Policy Board, the Center for Security Policy (CSP), the nefarious Project for the New American Century (PNAC), the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP), The Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies (IASPS), the American Enterprise Institute, and Bill Kristol’s The Weekly Standard.  In turn, these organizations have board members who cross reference with the establishment American Right foundations, including both the Heritage and Hoover Foundations.

    And those names cross reference with the heaviest of hitters in the Bush Administration and McCain Presidential Campaign’s foreign policy galaxy–Cheney, Rumsfeld, Perle, Wolfowitz, Feith, Libby, Woolsey, Kristol, Kagan, Schultz, Haig, Scheunemann, Schmitt, Armitage, Ball, Boot, Eagleburger, McFarlane, and Schlesinger.

    Even more ominously, some of those names cross reference, in turn, with Janet McMahon’s list of Israel-Firsters, some of whom have been implicated in past espionage operations on behalf of Israel which have targeted American intelligence information.  Here are but a few samples of the fruits of McMahon’s research:

Elliot Abrams: Son-in-law of Commentary editor Norman Podhoretz; convicted in 1991 of unlawfully withholding information from Congress in its investigation of the Iran-Contra affair; pardoned in 1992 by President George H. W. Bush.  Currently National Security Council senior director for Near East and North African Affairs. . .

Stephen Bryen: Member of advisory board and former executive director of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA); as Senate Foreign Relations Committee staff member, was subject of major FBI investigation after being overheard offering documents to Israeli Embassy official Zvi Rafiah; subsequently given top secret clearance and hired in 1981 as his deputy by Richard Perle, then assistant secretary of defense for international security policy. . . .

John Deutsch: Former CIA director whose security clearance was revoked for having prepared top-secret briefings and storing highly classified reference material on his unclassified and unsecured home computer.  Facing possible criminal charges, Deutsch was pardoned, along with fugitive financier Marc Rich, by President Bill Clinton on his last day in office.  Two years later, at an April 2002 Jewish National Fund dinner in honor of Deutsch, he was described as “one of Israel’s greatest supporters” who, as deputy defense secretary, helped secure an extra $200 million dollars for the Arrow project. . . .

Douglas Feith: Former under secretary of defense for policy, he established the Office of Special Plans, which produced “inappropriate” intelligence leading up to the war on Iraq.  His subordinate, Larry Franklin, was sentenced to 12 years in prison to passing classified information on Iran to AIPAC’s Steve Rosen and Keith Weissman and an Israeli Embassy official.  Feith reportedly lost his security clearance in 1982, when, as a National Security Agency staffer, he came under FBI suspicion for allegedly passing classified material to Israeli Embassy officials.  Hired that same year by Richard Perle, then assistant secretary of defense for international security policy, as his special counsel. . . .

Michael Ledeen: Former New Republic correspondent in Italy, where CIA station files listed him as an agent of influence of a foreign government–Israel; hired in 1981 by Paul Wolfowitz, then head of the State Department’s Policy Planning Staff; hired in 1983 on the recommendation of Richard Perle as a Defense Department consultant on terrorism; subsequently became consultant with the National Security Council, working under Oliver North, who recommended that Ledeen be asked to take periodic polygraph tests; hired as consultant to Pentagon’s Office of Special Plans under Douglas Feith; member with Stephen Bryen and Richard Perle of JINSA Board of Directors, and Freedom Scholar at American Enterprise Institute.

I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby: Graduate of Yale University, where he studied under Paul Wolfowitz; attorney for fugitive financier Marc Rich when Rich was pardoned by President Clinton; former chief of staff and assistant for national security affairs to Vice President Dick Cheney.  Convicted on March 6, 2007 of obstruction of justice, making false statements, and perjury in the investigation into the leaking of former CIA agent Valerie Plame’s identity. . . .  sentence commuted by President George W. Bush. . . .  Between the time of his October 2005 indictment, when he resigned his White House position, and his conviction, Libby served as a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute. . .

Richard Perle: As staff member for Senator Henry “Scoop” Jackson (D-WA), influenced hiring of Paul Wolfowitz by Arms Control and Development Agency; heard on 1969 FBI wiretap discussing classified information with someone at Israeli Embassy in Washington, D. C.; reportedly received substantial payments for representing an Israeli arms manufacturer; served as Reagan administration assistant secretary of defense from 1981 to 1987.  Author, with Michael Ledeen and others, of 1996 paper, “A Clean Break: A Strategy for Securing the Realm,” written for incoming Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.  Served on the Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board for 17 years before resigning in 2004, having resigned as chairman the previous year over allegations of financial conflicts of interest.  Resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute.

Paul Wolfowitz: While working for the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency, investigated in 1978 for providing to an Israeli governmental official, through an AIPAC intermediary, a classified document on proposed sale of U. S. weapons to an Arab country; hired in 1990 by then-Defense Secretary Dick Cheney as under defense secretary for policy, in which capacity he promoted the export to Israel of advanced air-to-air missiles; former Bush administration undersecretary of defense for policy overseeing Feith’s Office of Special Plans; along with then Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, raised the possibility of attacking Iraq the day after September 11, 2001; nominated by President George W. Bush in 2005 as president of World Bank; resigned in 2007 over promotion of his lover, Shaha Riza, a Middle East expert at the bank; currently chair of State Department’s International Security Advisory Board and visiting scholar at the American Enterprise Institute.   

    We now come full circle to The Whore of Babylon By the Potomac and her Vice Presidential nomination.  Is she the missing ingredient that will make a bilious John McCain acceptable to the Republican Party and the nation?  We will have the answer to this key question on the first Tuesday in November.

    One thing is not in doubt–any perusal of The Jerusalem Post, Ha’aretz, the Jewish Daily Forward, and the Jewish Telegraphic Agency confirms that The Lobby has its bets covered with McCain and Palin.  An analysis of these same outlets reveals ongoing suspicion of Obama, despite his public obeisance to AIPAC after clinching the Democratic nomination over Lobby-favored Hillary Clinton.  Clearly, the Lobby hopes that Joe “I Am a Zionist” Biden has enough of Mr. Obama’s ear to guarantee an expansion of American’s military involvement in the Middle East as a surrogate of Israel, in the event of the election of the Democratic standard bearers in 60 days.

    Which paves the way for a series of terrifying scenarios and possibilities, which includes the following:

1.  McCain and Palin are elected.  They launch the war Wolfowitz, Perle, and Company so desire.

2.  Obama is elected.  In this event, the Jewish media worldwide has already suggested publicly that an American and/or Israeli attack on Iran will ensue before his inauguration, courtesy of Bush and Cheney and their handlers.

3.  Obama is elected.  A all-too-familiar tragedy for those of us who lived through the 1960s ensues, resulting in his sudden, violent demise.  The false flag operation is falsely linked to the IRI regime in Tehran.  Public hysteria for war, coupled with the ascendancy of Lobby Shill Joe Biden to the Presidency, guarantees the outcome sought by the chief Neo-Conservative players in both major parties–an American sponsored war in the Middle East and Central Asia, for Eretz Yisrael and transnational energy consortiums.

4.  Obama is elected.  He launches the war sought by The Lobby, an indication of a Faustian bargain made with AIPAC and publicly proclaimed by the Senator in a speech still available online.

    And the P. T. Barnum crowd will jump aboard in any event, enshrouding the unfurling program of treason and mass murder in Old Glory and the Cross of Jesus.

    Hang on to your hats and fasten your seat belts.  The ride of your life–what remains of it–is coming.

[Dig]

Out of over 300 million, Obama, McCain, Palin, Biden is really the best we can do?

How is it not rigged, give us a fricking break!

[Dig]

IMHO she might be The Whore of Babylon

I can see Mc Insane being 'replaced' via natural causes or the LBJ method, which would leave S. Palin in charge.

Of course I hope I am wrong

jinx, just posted a brilliant article with that title.

I think that Hillary must be really pissed because she really thought that she was the whore of babylon.

[Kregener]

That is a ton of Web 2.0 stuff you got there...which is to say it is BLOG material, which is to say it is opinion.

Not saying it isn't true, or the authors didn't check their facts, just be careful about it until all is proven.

[Dig]

That is a ton of Web 2.0 stuff you got there...which is to say it is BLOG material, which is to say it is opinion.

Not saying it isn't true, or the authors didn't check their facts, just be careful about it until all is proven.

absolutely correct, I invite everyone to research this stuff ASAP.  Find out for yourselves what is true.  Of course I personally give people like Mark Dankof more credibility than your average Rothschild owned AP/Reuters reporter...but that is just me.

I also think it would be rather difficult for the mostly Zionist leaning MSM to out her as a Zionist.

As far as the rapture, the Israel support, and the speaking in toungues...

That mostly came from the New York Times who have on occassion checked out their facts prior to publishing.

[EvadingGrid]

We now come full circle to The Whore of Babylon By the Potomac and her Vice Presidential nomination.  Is she the missing ingredient that will make a bilious John McCain acceptable to the Republican Party and the nation?  We will have the answer to this key question on the first Tuesday in November.

No need to state who the little horn Is.Rael hard to work out

[EvadingGrid]

I think that Hillary must be really pissed because she really thought that she was the whore of babylon.

Yea, but she is past her sell by date...
You gotta love the way they turn on their own...
Just like the cannibal rats they are....

[Geolibertarian]

According to the Christian Zionist group The Jerusalem Connection International (whose leader, James Hutchens, broke this year with John Hagee's Christians United for Israel over Hagee's book that backpedaled on the imperative to convert Jews to Christianity), Palin, accompanied by Joe Lieberman, convened this week with representatives of the the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), and met with their approval.

In other words, it's not really a "choice" between Obama and McCain, but between

* Zbigniew Brzezinski -- http://www.rense.com/general81/abig.htm
 
                        -- and --

* John Hagee -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf3j4_GUmHk


That, of course, is no less of an insult to the American people than a restaurant customer being asked, "What kind of shit do you want in your shit sandwich -- the hot-and-steamy horseshit or the cold-and-crunchy bullshit?"

[dogmadestroyer]

Sane, I beg to differ. The jury still happens to be out on this one. Jeff Rense recently had Brother Nathanial on his show. Mind you, this man actually seems to cross the border between anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism despite being born Jewish. He called up Palin's pastor and came back with an answer essentially that there is no evidence to support her speaking on Israel's behalf until the Republican convention. He comes back with the conclusion that she at the very least is not likely to be a Christian Zionist. I recommend the interview with Rense.

Anyway, Brother Nathanial's article is up on his site here: http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=264

[Dig]

WTF?

Her husband works for British Petroleum.  Oh man, this is a Neo-Con wet dream.  Zionism + Oil (Bush, Cheney, Palin) and the impending artificial rapture an f-d up combination, wow:

From wiki:

Todd Palin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Palin
Born   Todd Mitchell Palin
September 6, 1964 (age 44)
Dillingham, Alaska, USA
Nationality   American
Citizenship   United States
Alma mater   Wasilla High School, some college work
Occupation   oil field production operator[1]
Employer   British Petroleum

[Dig]

Sane, I beg to differ. The jury still happens to be out on this one. Jeff Rense recently had Brother Nathanial on his show. Mind you, this man actually seems to cross the border between anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism despite being born Jewish. He called up Palin's pastor and came back with an answer essentially that there is no evidence to support her speaking on Israel's behalf until the Republican convention. He comes back with the conclusion that she at the very least is not likely to be a Christian Zionist. I recommend the interview with Rense.

Anyway, Brother Nathanial's article is up on his site here: http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=264

Thanks, everyone please post as much info about this as possible.  Mind you I am mostly going on her own words and deeds rather than anything else.  Whether or not her paster publicly states she is a zionist or not, the evidence is kinda overwhelming.

[EvadingGrid]

WTF?

Her husband works for British Petroleum.  Oh man, this is a Neo-Con wet dream.  Zionist Oil and the impending artificial rapture, wow:

From wiki:

Todd Palin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Palin
Born   Todd Mitchell Palin
September 6, 1964 (age 44)
Dillingham, Alaska, USA
Nationality   American
Citizenship   United States
Alma mater   Wasilla High School, some college work
Occupation   oil field production operator[1]
Employer   British Petroleum

Yikeees

She is def a candidate for The Whore of Babylon

[dogmadestroyer]

Look, I could care less about Palin because whether she's just surrounded by swarms of TPTB or in on the whole thing it doesn't matter. A VP for a lame corpse of a candidate doesn't decide anything for herself. I just thought the interview and article to be quite interesting.

[Livefreeordie]

WTF?

Her husband works for British Petroleum.  Oh man, this is a Neo-Con wet dream.  Zionism + Oil (Bush, Cheney, Palin) and the impending artificial rapture an f-d up combination, wow:

From wiki:

Todd Palin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Palin
Born   Todd Mitchell Palin
September 6, 1964 (age 44)
Dillingham, Alaska, USA
Nationality   American
Citizenship   United States
Alma mater   Wasilla High School, some college work
Occupation   oil field production operator[1]
Employer   British Petroleum

LOL....you guys are actually surprised about Todd's occupation and Employer?  

She is NOTHING but eye candy for the vote....period!

[Dig]

Sane, I beg to differ. The jury still happens to be out on this one. Jeff Rense recently had Brother Nathanial on his show. Mind you, this man actually seems to cross the border between anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism despite being born Jewish. He called up Palin's pastor and came back with an answer essentially that there is no evidence to support her speaking on Israel's behalf until the Republican convention. He comes back with the conclusion that she at the very least is not likely to be a Christian Zionist. I recommend the interview with Rense.

Anyway, Brother Nathanial's article is up on his site here: http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=264

Dude that site is weird, anyway here is the discussion which only leaves me more convinced that she believes her blind faith and possibly satanic "god" is in control rather than liberty and freedom:

Brother Nathanael Kapner: “Do you support the current State of Israel?”

Pastor Larry Kroon: “I believe that God has a special plan for the Jews. However, I cannot say whether or not the current State of Israel is part of that plan.”

Brother Nathanael: “So you don’t view the current State of Israel has being a fulfillment of Biblical prophecy?”

Pastor Larry Kroon: “There are specific prophecies in the Old Testament that predict the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. But whether or not the current State of Israel is a fulfillment of Old Testament prophecies I cannot affirm.”

Brother Nathanael: “What do you mean when you say that God has a special plan for the Jews?”

Pastor Larry Kroon: “The Bible teaches that ‘all peoples, tongues, and nations, shall be worshippers of the Lord Jesus Christ.’ Jews are included in this purview.”

Brother Nathanael: “Do you mean then that God doesn’t have some unique plan for the Jews?”

Pastor Larry Kroon: “The fact that Jews have been preserved over the centuries shows that God has a plan for them. That plan, as I understand Scriptures, is that they also are included in all peoples, tongues, and nations, who will embrace Jesus Christ.”

Brother Nathanael: “Many evangelicals say that the “144,000 of all the tribes of Israel” as mentioned in the book of Revelations, refers to the Jews who will be “saved” at the end of time. Do you teach this?”

Pastor Larry Kroon: “The book of Revelations has much imagery that is symbolic and could be understood figuratively. I have no definite answer as to whether the “144,000″ refers to Jews specifically.

“But let me say this. What is more easily understood are the predictions that Jesus Christ is the Messiah and that those Old Testament predictions are clarified for us in the New Testament.”

Brother Nathanael: “How do you feel about the violent attacks on Palestinian civilians in the Gaza Strip by the Israelis?”

Pastor Larry Kroon: “We must look at all of these kinds of incidents as they occur not only in Israel but in other parts of the world. We must look upon these incidents on a case by case basis.”

Brother Nathanael: “I noticed on your “Sermons” section of Wasilla Bible Church’s Web Site, that on August 17 2008, the Director of Jews For Jesus, David Brickner, spoke at your Church giving a sermon entitled, “The Jerusalem Dilemna.” I know that Jews for Jesus is an Evangelical organization which is very Pro Israel. Do you agree with their stand that the current State of Israel is legitimate in terms of what the Bible teaches?”

Pastor Larry Kroon: “As I already mentioned, we have our own views on Biblical prophecy as it pertains to the current State of Israel. This may differ from the views which Jews for Jesus has.”

Brother Nathanael: “Before I called you I spoke with the secretary of Jeneau Christian Center located in Alaska’s capital. She told me that there was a Christians United For Israel Conference in 2007 at the Church. She said that Governor Palin gave a speech that was very “Pro Israel.” Does then Sarah Palin take a “Pro Israel” stand?”

Pastor Larry Kroon: “I have never heard Governor Palin make a statement on the subject. As for me, I am a ‘local pastor.’ I emphasize to the flock that the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ are to be lived out in our day to day lives. And all people, including the Jews, are called to live their lives according to Christ’s teachings.”

BOTTOM LINE: It seemed to me that Pastor Larry Kroon does not teach “unconditional” support for the current State of Israel. I particularly noted that Pastor Larry Kroon was extremely hesitant to express support for the current Zionist State.

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Sorry to say that that two liner "bottom line" does not leave me thinking Sarah Palin is less of an NWO Zionist concerning her unconditional support of Israel, speaking in toungues, and the impending fake rapture.  Not to mention the Zionist hypocricy of telling us all what to do while doing whatever they want.  The addition of the Oil ties is fairly resounding.

[Modzilla_Kicker]

Texe Marrs Succumbed To Her Beauty: \"Sarah Palin, Rising Star!\" Christian, Pro-American VP.

http://www.texemarrs.com/make.m3u

[donnay]

Men's support gives Palin edge in latest poll

WASHINGTON (CNN)  -- When it comes to support for Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin, a new national poll suggests men and women don't see eye to eye.

 CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey out Tuesday indicates that 62 percent of men questioned have a favorable opinion of the Alaska governor, nine points higher than women.

In the poll, conducted Friday through Sunday, entirely after the end of the Republican convention, 23 percent of men have an unfavorable view of Sen. John McCain's running mate, seven points lower than women.

The gender gap is also apparent when it comes to whether Palin is qualified to serve as president. Fifty-seven percent of male respondents said Palin was qualified, 14 points higher than women. A majority of women polled, 55 percent, said Palin is not qualified.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/09/palin.poll/

[Dig]

Texe Marrs Succumbed To Her Beauty: \"Sarah Palin, Rising Star!\" Christian, Pro-American VP.

http://www.texemarrs.com/make.m3u

Any trancript?

It is odd as I love Texe for public showing (among other things) that talking in toungues (seems to be a Sarah Palin specialty) is not christian, but rather highly satanic:

TEXE MARRS The Blind & The Dead
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1309655344938122063

[EvadingGrid]

It is odd as I love Texe.  He also went public showing that talking in toungues (seems to be a Sarah Palin specialty) is not christian, but rather highly satanic:

I agree, and lets not forget that Texe is an ordinary man and does make the odd mistake.

[Geolibertarian]

Men's support gives Palin edge in latest poll

WASHINGTON (CNN)  -- When it comes to support for Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin, a new national poll suggests men and women don't see eye to eye.

 CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey out Tuesday indicates that 62 percent of men questioned have a favorable opinion of the Alaska governor, nine points higher than women.

And I'm soooo sure this has to do with that 62% having examined her policy agenda as opposed to her physical attributes. 

Same with Obama's adoring female fans.

People are so unbelievably gullible!

[Dig]

Here is someone who also outed Biden as a total Zionist (he ain't playing sides in this game and seems to have more credibility concerning Zionism than a Rothschild agent at AP/Reuters as well.  His other views, esp on 'climate issues' are open to speculation):

-----------------------------

Dr Gideon Polya,  MWC News Chief political editor, published some 130 works in a 4 decade scientific career, most recently a huge pharmacological reference text "Biochemical Targets of Plant Bioactive Compounds" (CRC Press/Taylor & Francis, New York & London, 2003), and is currently writing a book on global mortality ---
Other articles by this author:

Obama’s Zionist Wannabe Veep http://mwcnews.net/content/view/24943/42/ Quote: “If I were a Jew, I would be a Zionist. I am a Zionist. You don’t have to be a Jew to be a Zionist.” - Senator Joseph Biden

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Why Sarah Palin is unfit to be Vice President
http://mwcnews.net/content/view/24987/42/
9-3-2008

Several days ago the North Pole became an Island for the first time in human history and thanks to man-made global warming due to greenhouse gas pollution supported by Alaska Governor and McCain running mate Sarah Palin.

Alaska is one of America’s states most threatened by man-made climate change (others notably including Florida, Louisiana and Texas)  and only in this Orwellian world (war is peace, ignorance is strength, slavery is freedom, 2 plus 2 does not equal 4) can you understand why a dangerously anti-science, pro-Gun, pro-Oil, pro-Creationism climate sceptic with an appalling environmental record could become Governor of Alaska and potentially become Vice President of the United States of America  with a finger on the nuclear trigger.

There is a long list of reasons why Sarah Palin is unfit to be Vice President of the US but one of the most fundamental is her support for the Bush Asian wars that have been associated (so far) with about 4 million under-5 year old infant deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan alone (1.2 million Iraqi infants deaths under Sanctions, 1990-2003; 0.6 million Iraqi infant deaths in Occupied Iraq, 2003-2008; 2.1 million infant deaths in Occupied Afghanistan, 2001-2008; see MWC News ) – 4 million reasons why pro-War  Sarah Palin, a mother of 5 children and shortly to be a grandmother, is utterly unfit to hold any public office, let alone the Vice Presidency of the US and a heart attack away from having her finger on the nuclear trigger.

Sarah Palin’s record on (A) the environment, (B) science-based risk management, (C) human rights and (D) violence and avoidable human deaths is utterly appalling and is summarized below  (for detailed links to primary sources and Sarah Palin quotes see “Top Ten most disturbing facts and impressions about Sarah Palin”; Sarah Palin’s awful environmental record ; and “20 reasons why Sarah Palin is unfit to be vice president of US”).

A. Sarah Palin’s awful record on the environment

1. Palin opposes the endangerment listing of polar bears (Palin is suing the Interior Department on Alaska's behalf in reaction to the Feds' decision to list the animals as threatened; polar bears hunt on ice floes and the Arctic ice is melting catastrophically due to anthropogenic global warming).

2. Palin supports shooting wolves from the air (Palin opposed federal legislation to end Alaska's policy of allowing people to shoot wolves from airplanes).

3. Pro-oil Palin has supported oil and gas exploitation in the acutely threatened Alaskan wilderness and elsewhere (she wants to drill for oil in the Arctic National Wildlife Reserve and to expand offshore drilling).

4. Climate sceptic Palin rejects human responsibility for global warming (a man-made phenomenon that is acutely threatening the Arctic, the Alaskan tundra, the biosphere and billions of people around the world).

B. Sarah Palin’s awful record on Science and Science-based risk management

1. Palin supports the teaching of Creationism in schools (Creationism being flagrant anti-science nonsense).

2. Palin supports the teaching of “Intelligent Design” in schools (Intelligent Design being a Creationist Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing).

3. Palin (BS in journalism from the University of Idaho) is a climate sceptic (rejecting an overwhelming global scientific consensus that global warming is substantially due to pollution of the atmosphere with greenhouse gases from land use and fossil fuel burning).

4. Palin’s anti-Science stance has meant that she has ignored crucial areas of rational risk management relating to the avoidable deaths of millions of Americans and overseas American subjects (see below).

5. Palin’s Bush-ite  policies depart from rational, science-based risk management (the Arctic is melting and yet climate sceptic Palin ignores overwhelming international expert scientific advice about the Climate Emergency that the world is facing e.g. see the Climate Emergency Fact Sheets of the Yarra Valley Climate Action Group).

C. Palin’s awful record on human rights

1. Palin supports the death penalty for Americans (ignoring the “right to life” and the reality that numerous innocent Americans are killed by the State each year under such laws).

2. Palin opposes pro-choice laws for women (she is totally opposed for abortion even after rape and incest).

3.  Palin is anti-gay in opposing same sex marriage and benefits to same sex couples.

4. Palin is linked to abuse of Indigenous Rights (Palin supports the Bush Administration which has refused to ratify the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People and her running mate McCain has been involved in the dispossession of Indigenous Americans on behalf of the Coal interests).

5. Palin is complicit in the gross violation by the oil industry of the Alaskan wilderness (lands sacred and crucial to Indigenous Peoples).

6. Palin is complicit in the horrendous consequences of illegal and war criminal Bush Asian wars (e.g. 4 million under-5 year old Iraqi and Afghan infant deaths in the Occupied Iraqi and Afghan Territories).

7. Palin fervently supports the “right to life” of the Unborn but not the “right to life” of Born American infants (e.g. 160,000 avoidable American infant deaths under the Bush Administration) or Born American Empire infants (notably 4 million under-5 year old Iraqi and Afghan infant deaths).

8. Palin ignores horrendous child sexual abuse in America (US studies indicate that 25% of US females and 10% of US males experience childhood sexual abuse).

D. Palin’s awful record on violence, war and active and passive killing

1. Palin supports gross de facto military violation of the “right to life” of foreign Born Infants (Palin and McCain support Zionism and Bush’s imperialism that is so far associated with post-invasion under-5 infant deaths totalling 0.2 million (Occupied Palestine), 0.1 million (Occupied Haiti), 0.2 million (Occupied Somalia), 0.6 million (Occupied Iraq) and 2.1 million (Occupied Afghanistan) (estimated as of September 2008 using data from the UN Population Division) and post-invasion excess deaths (avoidable deaths) totalling 0.3 million (Occupied Palestine), 0.1 million (Occupied Haiti), 0.3 million (Occupied Somalia), 2 million (Occupied Iraq) and 3-6 million (Occupied Afghanistan).

2. Palin supports the Bush Administration War and Domestic policies yet 20,000 under-5 year old American infants die avoidably each year due to the warped priorities and policies of the Bush Administration (8 x 20,000 = 160,000 under-5 year old American Born Infants will have died avoidably under the Palin-supported Bush Administration).

3. Palin ignores the horrendous over 50 million infant excess deaths down to the US ove the last half century or so (Palin supports Bush, McCain and both past and continuing US wars on desperately poor countries around the world; of about 80 million 1950-2005 avoidable deaths in countries occupied by the US in the post-1945 era, over 50 million were avoidable under-5 infant deaths).

4. Palin supports gun ownership and is a life-long member of the National Rifle Association (Americans kill about 30,000 Americans annually with guns; 8 x 30,000 = 240,000 Americans will have been killed by Guns under the Bush Administration).

5. Palin is pro-War, pro-Zionist and supports violent occupation and colonization of foreign lands (Palin supports the pro-War and pro-Zionist policies of McCain and Bush that involve the violent invasion, occupation, devastation and colonization of foreign countries; using estimates from the UN Population Division, UNICEF and top US medical epidemiologists one can estimate the following carnage in the ongoing, Zionist- , Bush-ite and neo-Bush-ite-promoted Palestinian Genocide, Iraqi Genocide and Afghan Genocide - post-invasion excess deaths 0.3 million, 2 million, and 3-6 million, respectively; post-invasion under-5 infant deaths 0.2 million, 0.6 million and 2.1 million, respectively; refugees totalling 7 million, 4.5 million and 4 million, respectively).

6. Palin ignores horrendous avoidable death of 1 million Americans annually under Bush (Palin ignores the horrendous avoidable deaths of about 1 million Americans annually from causes ranging from gun-deaths to refusal of medical assistance due to warped Republican policies).

7. Pro-Oil and pro-Coal Palin ignores huge American deaths from particulate pollutants (about 166,000 Americans die each year from particulate pollutants).

8.  Pro-Coal Palin ignores huge American deaths from coal-based power generation ( Palin is a pro-Oil and pro-Coal climate sceptic and ignores the horrendous deaths of 49,000 Americans annually from the pollutants from coal burning-based electricity generation).

9.  Palin supports “business as usual” and expanded carbon burning that may kill over 6 billion people this century according to top climate scientist Dr James Lovelock FRS (Palin supports “business as usual” and expanded logging, drilling, coal mining, gas and oil industries and ignores the urgent advice from top US climate scientist Dr James Hansen and his colleagues at NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), New York:  “If humanity wishes to preserve a planet similar to that on which civilization developed and to which life on Earth is adapted, paleoclimate evidence and ongoing climate change suggest that CO2 will need to be reduced from its current 385 ppm to at most 350 ppm”).

In addition to the above, there are “the usual” assertions of conflict of interest, incompetence, spin and related political shenanigans involving Sarah Palin (e.g. the “Bridge to Nowhere” affair) – however I won’t even bother going there because such things are the accompaniment of all but the most saintly politicians.

The most serious complaint by far against Sarah Palin is that she is complicit in the Bush War on Terror that in horrible reality is a cowardly and racist War on Asian, Arab, Muslim and non-European Women and Children and which in Iraq (1990-2008) and Afghanistan (2001-2008) alone has been associated with about 4 million under-5 year old infant deaths – 4 million reasons why Sarah Palin is utterly unfit to be Vice President of the US and indeed is unfit to hold any public office. 

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I think the last quote from AIPAC is the nail in the coffin on this issue:

Both US vice-presidential candidates vow to back Israel
http://www.imemc.org/article/56825
 Wednesday September 03, 2008 20:32 by Saed Bannoura - IMEMC News

Both Sarah Palin, the Republican candidate for US Vice-President, and Joe Biden, the Democratic candidate, have both met with pro-Israel groups in the US within days of their respective nominations, and have promised complete and unconditional support for the Jewish state.

Their positions on the issue are in line with both major Presidential candidates, Barack Obama and John McCain, who both spoke earlier this summer at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) Conference to pledge support for Israel.

The only US presidential candidates that have expressed support for Palestinian human rights are from minor parties, and unlikely to win.  Cynthia McKinney, a former Congresswoman from Georgia, is running for US President on the Green Party ticket, and has taken a position that supports the human rights of the Palestinian people for self-determination and equality.  Ralph Nader, an Independent candidate for US President, has also expressed his support for the rights of the Palestinian people.

Some political analysts in the US have surmised that Democratic candidate Barack Obama may have picked Senator Joe Biden because of his blatant support for Israel, after pressure from Zionist groups considered him to be too soft on his pro-Israel stance.  Biden has stated in the past, "If I were a Jew, I would be a Zionist. I am a Zionist. You don't have to be a Jew to be a Zionist."  As head of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Biden has taken an ardently anti-Palestinian stance for many years.

Sarah Palin, the current Governor of Alaska, was selected by Republican candidate John McCain to be his running mate during the Republican convention that is currently taking place.  Palin met with Israel lobbyists on Tuesday to assure them that her position on the issue would not support the Palestinian people's internationally-recognized right to self-determination, but would back Israel no matter what.  As Governor of Alaska, Palin displayed an Israeli flag in the window of her office, and belongs to a church, the Wasilla Assembly of God, that preaches a biblical prophecy interpretation of Christianity, in which Christians support the transfer of Jewish people to the state of Israel because they believe it will bring on the rapture.

Josh Block, a spokesman for AIPAC, stated Tuesday, “Now that both the Democrats and the Republicans have determined their respective tickets, AIPAC is pleased that both parties have selected four pro-Israel candidates.”

[donnay]

And I'm soooo sure this has to do with that 62% having examined her policy agenda as opposed to her physical attributes. 

Same with Obama's adoring female fans.

People are so unbelievably gullible!

Sad, truly sad. 

It also brings up the other division in this country that is done by design--sexism.  Proving the point that men are using the wrong head for thinking and women are too emotional to understand they are being duped.

People ought to have to take a test before being allowed the privilege to vote.

[Protean]

Jeff Rense interviewed Brother Nathanael Kapner who spoke with Sarah Palin's Pastor.

Scource link: http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=264

Palin’s Pastor Speaks About Israel
by Brother Nathanael Kapner

TODAY I SPOKE WITH  Sarah Palin’s pastor. His name is Reverend Larry Kroon & he is the Senior Pastor of Wasilla Bible Church  in Wasilla Alaska where Sarah Palin resides. Pastor Larry Kroon confirmed that Sarah Palin was an “attendee” of Wasilla Bible Church.

I called Pastor Larry Kroon around 3 PM Mountain Time on today’s date, September 2 2008. I introduced myself to him as a “freelance reporter” for Jewish daily news. During our talk I told him that I was a former Jew and was now with the Russian Orthodox Church.

Pastor Larry Kroon described Wasilla Bible Church as “a Church that teaches that the Bible is the Word of God and calls upon its members to conduct their lives in accordance with it.” Pastor Kroon added that he was the pastor of a “non denominational” Church & that “between 800 to 1000 people attend Wasilla Bible Church on any given Sunday.

Here’s how our conversation went:

Brother Nathanael Kapner: “Do you support the current State of Israel?”

Pastor Larry Kroon: “I believe that God has a special plan for the Jews. However, I cannot say whether or not the current State of Israel is part of that plan.”

Brother Nathanael: “So you don’t view the current State of Israel has being a fulfillment of Biblical prophecy?”

Pastor Larry Kroon: “There are specific prophecies in the Old Testament that predict the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. But whether or not the current State of Israel is a fulfillment of Old Testament prophecies I cannot affirm.”

Brother Nathanael: “What do you mean when you say that God has a special plan for the Jews?”

Pastor Larry Kroon: “The Bible teaches that ‘all peoples, tongues, and nations, shall be worshippers of the Lord Jesus Christ.’ Jews are included in this purview.”

Brother Nathanael: “Do you mean then that God doesn’t have some unique plan for the Jews?”

Pastor Larry Kroon: “The fact that Jews have been preserved over the centuries shows that God has a plan for them. That plan, as I understand Scriptures, is that they also are included in all peoples, tongues, and nations, who will embrace Jesus Christ.”

Brother Nathanael: “Many evangelicals say that the “144,000 of all the tribes of Israel” as mentioned in the book of Revelations, refers to the Jews who will be “saved” at the end of time. Do you teach this?”

Pastor Larry Kroon: “The book of Revelations has much imagery that is symbolic and could be understood figuratively. I have no definite answer as to whether the “144,000″ refers to Jews specifically.

“But let me say this. What is more easily understood are the predictions that Jesus Christ is the Messiah and that those Old Testament predictions are clarified for us in the New Testament.”

Brother Nathanael: “How do you feel about the violent attacks on Palestinian civilians in the Gaza Strip by the Israelis?”

Pastor Larry Kroon: “We must look at all of these kinds of incidents as they occur not only in Israel but in other parts of the world. We must look upon these incidents on a case by case basis.”

Brother Nathanael: “I noticed on your “Sermons” section of Wasilla Bible Church’s Web Site, that on August 17 2008, the Director of Jews For Jesus, David Brickner, spoke at your Church giving a sermon entitled, “The Jerusalem Dilemna.” I know that Jews for Jesus is an Evangelical organization which is very Pro Israel. Do you agree with their stand that the current State of Israel is legitimate in terms of what the Bible teaches?”

Pastor Larry Kroon: “As I already mentioned, we have our own views on Biblical prophecy as it pertains to the current State of Israel. This may differ from the views which Jews for Jesus has.”

Brother Nathanael: “Before I called you I spoke with the secretary of Jeneau Christian Center located in Alaska’s capital. She told me that there was a Christians United For Israel Conference in 2007 at the Church. She said that Governor Palin gave a speech that was very “Pro Israel.” Does then Sarah Palin take a “Pro Israel” stand?”

Pastor Larry Kroon: “I have never heard Governor Palin make a statement on the subject. As for me, I am a ‘local pastor.’ I emphasize to the flock that the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ are to be lived out in our day to day lives. And all people, including the Jews, are called to live their lives according to Christ’s teachings.”

BOTTOM LINE: It seemed to me that Pastor Larry Kroon does not teach “unconditional” support for the current State of Israel. I particularly noted that Pastor Larry Kroon was extremely hesitant to express support for the current Zionist State.

I Take Encouragement That The One Who Sits
Under Pastor Larry Kroon’s Teachings, Namely, Sarah Palin, Will Also “Hesitate”
To Support The Current Zionist State Of Israel.

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Jeff Rense interviewed Brother Nathanael Kapner who spoke with Sarah Palin's Pastor.

Scource link: http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=264

Uh dude, this has already been posted above.

Are you even reading the thread?

Is this like some kind of info delivered via some newsgroup or something?  Was this info disseminated via "push" or "pull"?  All the stuff I posted was pulled (except for this which was pushed by another member).  Just curious because pushed info tends to have an agenda on it.  The bottom line for me is that the "bottom line" does not square with the overwhelming evidence including the evidence within the very interview:

Pastor Larry Kroon: “As I already mentioned, we have our own views on Biblical prophecy as it pertains to the current State of Israel. This may differ from the views which Jews for Jesus has.”

Well what is the fricking Bible Prophecy Agenda?  Why is this not vetted out?  I would like to know Sarah's Bible Prophecy Agenda as she already stated that the Iraq war is god's will.

Who's god is she fricking talking about anyway?

How is this not more evidence of the same garbage we were fed concerning Bush/Cheney only to be duped by more neo-con zionist puppets?

Anyway can anyone find some info other than this contradictory interview?

[EvadingGrid]

And I'm soooo sure this has to do with that 62% having examined her policy agenda as opposed to her physical attributes. 

Same with Obama's adoring female fans.

People are so unbelievably gullible!

That is the truth !!!

[Geolibertarian]

People ought to have to take a test before being allowed the privilege to vote.

If angelic beings were the ones writing and administering the test, then yes, but if you gave the current political establishment that power, I guarantee that one of the questions would be -- "Was 9/11 an inside job?" -- and that anyone who answered "yes" would be prohibited from voting.

If I were the one in charge of such a test, I would ask simple questions such as:

- How many articles are there in the Bill of Rights?

- How many branches of government are there?

- What year did 9/11 happen?

- What country are you living in?

- What does two plus two equal?