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« on: September 08, 2008, 12:50:37 PM » |
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I like to stay out of things that are speculative, or lack "enough" objective evidence... but since Alex broached this subject today on the radio show... 09/08/08... namely, a three football field sized triangular object floating in the skies over Dallas Texas, witnessed by lots of people... well, it brings me to a personal experience, shared by a close friend about 12 years ago now... here is the way it went down. Let me set the stage ... It was an puffy overcast late spring day, I was sitting in the living room, it was about 11:00 am. I did not write down the date, nor the day of the week. I have narrowed it down to between the 11th and 16th of June 1996. I heard the sound of helicopters, very close. I always had my Olympus OM-1 with a 50mm F/1.2 lens, loaded and handy everywhere I went, so I grabbed it and ran out into the front yard to see what was happening. Less than a thousand ft. above the house there were three helicopters cruising around, equally spaced, in a wide circle overhead, moving counterclockwise from my point of view, the circle they made was about 1/2 mile in diameter. The center of the circle was about a quarter of a mile southwest of my position in the beginning but seemed to be moving toward the northeast, the direction of Denver International Airport which meant the center would pass almost directly overhead. I readied my camera setting it according to the light meter, for the 200ASA FujiColor print film I had in the camera. The F/stop and shutter speed were set at... F/5.6... 1/250th of a second, I did write that down. While getting everything set up, the center of the circle had moved to just northeast of my position. One chopper was in view to the west-southwest of my position while the other two, though closer, were obscured by tall trees from the east and north. As the one visible chopper swung around from the west toward me, I snapped a shot. It was moving my direction, toward the northeast. It passed almost over head, the angle was about 60 degrees above the northern horizon. this is when I snapped the picture below, which was the second shot. Then snapped a third and a fouth shot, as fast as I could cycle the winding lever, aim, and shoot... The last three shots were all snapped in less than 6 seconds. My friend was there as this all happened and witnessed it. Neither of us saw any thing other than the helicopters, but we both thought it odd to see 3 Cobras circling in a wide perfect circle moving at about a mile per revolution from the southwest to the northeast. These shots were among the first frames exposed on a new roll of film that was proccessed a month later or so, on July 23rd 1996... You could imagine my surprise when I saw this:  I have my own theoretical assessment on this image... I must point out from the onset here, that the film negative has been completely checked for any defects and there were none... there were no flares, or Frisbees in the area. This image is not a film anomaly and came through the lens and was exposed at the same instant as the rest of the image. JTCoyoté "Such is the irresistible nature of truth
that all it asks, and all it wants, is the
liberty of appearing."
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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2008, 12:53:32 PM » |
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2008, 01:33:27 PM » |
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Wow great picture. I guess they were following that thing around. I wonder if it was something we built or something we were observing. Crazy stuff.
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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2008, 01:51:59 PM » |
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The interesting thing, ES... is... look very closely at the arched side of the dark area... follow the curve out and you will trace a blue-ish highlight... and notice how the area stands out away from the background of clouds ever so slightly...
I have examined these four photographs to exhaustion... and have come up with some very interesting conclusions... I suppose, at this point I should reiterate my background as an optical engineer... so I have a pretty good idea of what optical systems, i.e. film, lenses and mirrors are capable of under specific conditions...
If you look very closely at the photograph, which is a cropped section of the original photograph, the helicopter is dead center in the original print... in any case, you will notice a slight outward curvature in the appearance of the area inside the blue-ish arc as though it is slightly closer to the lens than the area not inside the arc...
--Oldyoti
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and the Trojan Horse of World Government. It is the primrose
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2008, 02:12:05 PM » |
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Thanks for sharing JT. That is an interesting picture. If it is a cloaked Military black project, I wonder how much power it's using.
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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2008, 02:27:49 PM » |
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Dude, you have a blade of grass on your camera lens...  |
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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2008, 02:36:13 PM » |
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In any case, if this is what I think it is, under normal circumstances, it would be too big not to be seen. Yet there are only about 500 eyewitnesses to sightings of these things and usually at night when they obscure the stars. in most cases, more than one, usually several persons witness each of these events, over the last 20 years, so sightings are rare...
My take is that whatever it is that these helicopters are circling, is ours, and through some extremely advanced optical technology, rapidly projects what is behind it on to its opposite surface... Remember the invisibility cape that was touted as being the state of the cloaking art. It would project the scene behind the cloak onto the front... this was reported three or four years ago.
All I could hear that day was helicopters... which are fairly noisy, so any other sound, was imperceptible... In any case, this technology would be infinitely more sophisticated than the "invisibility cape"... all four of the photos in this series were shot at the same camera setting. With the shutter at 1/250th of a second, it was fast enough to stop the rotation of the helicopters rotor.
Now think of how hard it would be for the human eye to do that. Well it can't... that's why the rotor appears as a blur to the eye. The camera however, at that shutter speed completely stops the action and you see the blade in the orientation it was in at that split second. That same shutter speed was fast enough, and was triggered at exactly the right time, to stop the phase scanning of what I believe is a huge flying object with visible cloaking capability... the shutter stopped the scanning process in mid-scan, in much the same way it stopped the helicopter's rotor.
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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2008, 02:42:58 PM » |
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Dude, you have a blade of grass on your camera lens... Not!... A 50mm F/1.2 stopped to F/5.6, focused at infinity... that blade of grass on the lens would be SO completely focused out... like the secondary mirror spider mount of your favorite Newtonian reflector...  JTCoyoté "The urge to save humanity is almost always
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« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2008, 02:45:02 PM » |
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Just kidding you JT.
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Going to church does not make you a Christian any more than going to a hospital makes you a doctor.
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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2008, 03:09:33 PM » |
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they live! ran across the below video earlier today, not that it has any bearing on your picture or the activities that have been witnessed by many First contact - Begins 14th October 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8c0ppYYT6o |
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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2008, 11:08:37 PM » |
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Thanks for sharing JT. That is an interesting picture. If it is a cloaked Military black project, I wonder how much power it's using.
If you listen very closely to the eyewitness accounts of many of those who have seen these things your first impression is "lighter than air"!... And that could very well be the case...The only problem with this idea is that the craft would be placed in harm's way every time the wind changed, especially if the wind velocity changed dramatically. Maneuvering this thing, you know... something twice the size of a football stadium, would be a monumental feat... you must also remember that by the account of everyone who has reported seeing these things... they are dead silent My take, is that it is a huge cloaked hangar structure... more like a floating Air Force Base... In the three corners of these triangular shaped craft, the tip of one which is visible in the photograph, is where the propulsion and lift is produced. In my opinion each corner contains what might be properly referred to as S-4 Technology, or some variety of lighter than air, and or possibly a form of rudimentary anti-gravitational propulsion... a form of gravity propulsion that we are just now beginning to learn about... didn't a consortium of space scientists just send out a satellite to test for gravity "B" a few years back...?? Some highly theoretical stuff, but worth investigating just the same. In any case, not to stray too far from the photograph... there is no question in my mind that this type of technology exists... whether it came out of the black ops/shadow government kitchen... or was some kind of shared alien technology... I cannot say... no matter... my strongest feeling is that these things are huge... and are propelled by some combination of lighter than air, or negative gravity system... and maneuvered by a highly sophisticated sensory systems that compensates for even the lightest breeze instantly... JTCoyoté "There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power
any government has is the power to crack down on
criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals,
one makes them. One declares so many things to be
a crime that it becomes impossible to live without
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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2008, 11:51:15 PM » |
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We need the Pipa' to save us. I wish I could help you with this one but I can't on my own. I'll ask my buddy...he's probably heard of it. Then again even though he's a scientist, he still thought the haitian ufos were real. I'll see what he says about this. Undoubtedly he's heard of it by now. Thanks for the info.
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« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2008, 12:23:49 AM » |
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I am thinking some kind of surveillance project, maybe a drone carrier for city pacification duty.
Then again, who knows?
And why would they 'test' new, secret, technology over a metropolitan area unless it has to do with the populace?
I sure would love to make a blowup of a print from the negative and go over it with an eye piece.
Or a digitized copy.
Damn that is a scary looking bit of imagery.
By the way, how many helo's were patrolling around it and what make? It would be really interesting to see what kind of optics package they were carrying.
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We work jobs we hate to pay for stuff we don't need to impress people we don't like. Am I the crazy one here?
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« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2008, 12:44:05 AM » |
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You can imagine my surprise, upon getting the photos back from the lab and seeing that thing... all there were in the sky that day, at least when I took the pictures were 3 helicopters.... And the fact that there was something they were circling in that half-mile circle they were making... as they moved slowly to the northeast, something as big as two football stadiums... in the middle of that circle of helicopters... well, the thought was unnerving! To say the least...! Gooseflesh rolled, and my skin crawl for several minutes looking at that picture.
I tried self debunking... I showed it to my friend who was with me that day and we bandied the ideas back and forth... I inspected the film negative with a 10 power Loop and then a low-power microscope looking for defects in the film backing itself there were none...!
If these things exist, and I think they do... the technology they use is considerably more sophisticated than we average folks are allowed to peruse... In any case, debunkers and popular collective opinion, hold water some times... but, as most of us in the Patriot movement understand... generally, in the fullness of time, the de-bunkers and popular collective opinion are proven wrong... the folks who have truly experienced something like this... need only to stay the course, without embellishments or alterations in what they have seen... just the facts... (chuckle)... that is all we can do...
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« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2008, 02:14:09 AM » |
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JT, do you post on ufoevidence.org?
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« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2008, 01:13:30 PM » |
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JT, do you post on ufoevidence.org?
No... --Oldyoti "If ever time should come, when vain and
aspiring men shall possess the highest seats
in Government, our country will stand in need
of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
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« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2008, 02:29:55 PM » |
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Wow, these aircraft are beautiful. Don't you feel kind of weak not knowing how to build them?
Ya know, I built an electric motor that was solar powered and even worked when the lights were out...so it's probably more simple than we think.
That invisible hypersonic bomber, man oh man...I want one...
Why can't we just make these things to have fun flying? Or just use water balloons instead? Hahaha
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« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2008, 03:08:10 PM » |
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Just kidding you JT.
Oh, I knew that... When I did an image scale analysis of the photo... accurately measuring the image of the helicopter which is an AH-1 Cobra, with a fuselage length of 45.5 feet... Knowing the focal length of my camera's lens to be 50 mm... along with the known length of the aircraft... with these two known quantities you can calculate distance... You begin by calculating the image size of the 3.95" x 5.05" photograph in degrees... which is 26.5¬ by 33.9¬ Knowing the measured length of the helicopters fuselage, as directly measured from the image is, 0.175 inches... which in real life corresponds to a length of 45.5 feet and covers 1.175¬... Doing a little angle to solve for distance... and "Voila", the chopper was almost exactly 1500 feet from the lens of my camera at an angle of approximately 60¬ above the horizon. This means the chopper was flying about 1000-1200 feet above the ground... The other object was just a little bit higher in altitude, which can be discerned from looking at the picture. Using the same scale as the chopper, the dark area of the mysterious craft... measures about 286 feet in length and about 35 feet in width at its widest point. I believe this day time fly over of a populated area, was to see if anyone would notice anything other than helicopters... the secondary function of the helicopters was to obfuscate the possible sound of the aircraft, as well as to act as a sleight-of-hand motion trick to keep attention on the helicopters and off of what was in the middle... in my opinion. Whether or not this thing is one of these large floating triangles, or something else... that is still up in the air... (chuckle)... all I can say is something strange happened that day and I caught it on film! The other three pics in the series, show only the chopper as it moved along the large circular path. The cloud background, as far as I can tell at this point, are slightly overlapping in each frame. So the third shot overlaps the shot taken above and the fourth shot overlaps the third, this is how quickly the frames were snapped... like I said less than six seconds total. The air was dead still and there was little cloud movement if any, at least not in that six second time frame. You can follow the individual characteristics in the clouds from frame to frame... and when I compared them for any distortion due to scanning parallax, it is hard to tell if there is any projection displacement... a good image comparison program would sure come in handy about now. JTCoyoté "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those
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« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2008, 02:41:51 AM » |
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I don't want to get too off-topic here so I'll just keep it quick and nondescript.
JT, you are (IMO) a photo genius. Seriously. OK...so I want to get your opinion on something. Please check out the following video (@ about 21:00) and tell me what you think about his analysis of the moon photos where he turned up the brightness to "reveal" things. It seems to me like that stuff could just be bright spots from distant stars that you wouldn't normally notice with the naked eye.
You can just send me a PM about this if you like.
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« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2008, 05:23:14 AM » |
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Good info, but really thats smap gas. |
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« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2008, 05:55:55 AM » |
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Operation Bluebeam.
i love it when you talk about something and someone just come and say PROJECT BLUEBEAM or OPERATION BLUEBEAM or what ever. History has been full of story whit whit ufo and being from the sky or like the sumerian and babylonian called them Chariot de Feu in french or Fire Chariot. Anyway nice pictures you got there, got more ?  |
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« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2008, 07:24:42 PM » |
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I don't want to get too off-topic here so I'll just keep it quick and nondescript.
JT, you are (IMO) a photo genius. Seriously. OK...so I want to get your opinion on something. Please check out the following video (@ about 21:00) and tell me what you think about his analysis of the moon photos where he turned up the brightness to "reveal" things. It seems to me like that stuff could just be bright spots from distant stars that you wouldn't normally notice with the naked eye.
You can just send me a PM about this if you like.
Hmm...I guess it would have helped if I would have included the link. Now I can't remember what the video was called... |
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« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2008, 07:39:16 PM » |
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Looks like a problem with the film to me. Especially if you didn't remember seeing it, then it's probably a problem with the negative or in development. You can sort of see lines coming out from the black shape. Actually, it looks like the anomaly is a complete circle that goes off to the right of the image. Looks like someone set a pop can on it. I know that didn't happen but it looks to me like some sort of problem with the film.
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« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2008, 10:20:12 PM » |
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Looks like a problem with the film to me. Especially if you didn't remember seeing it, then it's probably a problem with the negative or in development. You can sort of see lines coming out from the black shape. Actually, it looks like the anomaly is a complete circle that goes off to the right of the image. Looks like someone set a pop can on it. I know that didn't happen but it looks to me like some sort of problem with the film.
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« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2008, 10:23:28 PM » |
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please dude, just...please
i mean, please, just...
What? You think it more likely that he caught a stealth bomber "decloaking" in a split second when none of his other photos taken fractions of a second later show anything? Please. Just...please |
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« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2008, 10:44:15 PM » |
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What? You think it more likely that he caught a stealth bomber "decloaking" in a split second when none of his other photos taken fractions of a second later show anything?
Please. Just...please
I believe he caught something. I do not believe it was a coffee mug or anything to do with the film or the photoshop. To put such easily refuted nonsense as debunking of the unknown item in question is like saying thermal expansion caused 7 to blow up. |
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All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately
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« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2008, 10:46:08 PM » |
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Looks like a problem with the film to me. Especially if you didn't remember seeing it, then it's probably a problem with the negative or in development. You can sort of see lines coming out from the black shape. Actually, it looks like the anomaly is a complete circle that goes off to the right of the image. Looks like someone set a pop can on it. I know that didn't happen but it looks to me like some sort of problem with the film.
The ends of your little red oblate spheroid section need to be opened out at the edge... if your intent is to honestly follow the mean arc of the curve... Read my second post... until you understand it. Then go back and read the rest of my posts until you understand them... You are probably in a room with a fluorescent bulb or tube light right now... Unlike an incandescent, it flickers off and on at a rate of 60 times a second... yet your eye doesn't see it, much like you don't see that I've already answered your query with professional scrutiny in my previous posts... and had you read them you would have understood it. At 1/250th of a second the shutter will stop the rotor blade on the chopper, and if the only light you have to expose film by is a fluorescent light, at that speed, the film may be under exposed or slightly over exposed depending on when the shutter opens relative to the 60 cycle flicker... My assessment of the unknown object is related the fluorescent in the same way that when you try to photograph an image on a TV screen, you will almost always stop the scanning with the shutter and capture the dark scan line running on the screen, upon the film. If it were a problem with the film as you suggest, it would have extended into the next frame which it did not since this is a cropped section of a 35mm photo where the chopper was dead center and the right edge butts up to the left edge of the next frame, cropping was done to the left, top, and bottom leaving what you see here... The image saturation of the negative shows a continuous grain structure throughout, consistent with singular exposure when viewed under high magnification. What ever it was came through the lens and exposed the film in the same instant, at 1/250th of a second, as the rest of the image. JTCoyoté "Philosophy is common sense with big words."
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