Canadians will be going to the polls on October 14th

[RickT]

We had an election call yesterday though there is no any real cry for an election and before an election being due next fall.  I think this could be to sync up the type of governments in Canada and the US.  It comes down to the Liberals under Stephan Dion vs. the Conservatives under the present Prime Minister, Stephen Harper.

Despite not believing much in the whole right/left business, I do have a preference & that is the status quo under the Conservatives.  Dion's platform is pretty much entirely about being 'Green'.  Completely overhauling the Canadian economy and making it green.  He loves Kyoto so much he named his dog Kyoto (theatrics).  He was Minister of the Environment under the former Liberal Government & despite not doing any of the things he speaks about now, claims that as PM things will change.  Carbon Tax etc...

Keep in mind, Canada is an energy exporter.  We produce far beyond the needed energy of the country and are the largest foreign suppliers of US energy.  Although, because of NAFTA, Canadian and Mexican oil is not counted as 'foreign oil' in the US & the reason why the American people are fed the line about being reliant on foreign oil from the Middle East.  Anyway, under a 'green economy' & Dion's promise to fall in line with Kyoto, I can't help but wonder what that will do to our economy as well as our overall energy production and therefore the line which will be fed to Americans about 'peak oil' or some crap like that.  I can't help but think President Obama & Prime Minister Dion would easily work together and propel the NWO agenda very well.  If, for now, the agenda is further war etc... then McCain & Harper would probably be the likely winners in the coming elections, but there's something I'm picking up in Harper & that's a sense he's been given the order to roll over for Dion.  With paper ballots and votes which are on the local level, a Canadian election is harder to stage than an American one.  It'll literally take the party ordered to lose to do something screwy to shift public opinion and Harper looks like a dog who's been beaten down by the powers that be... in Canada that is literally Power Corp. under Paul Desmairais.

It will take a lot to bring people to vote Liberal & hence Dion, as he's not really high in polls on leadership rankings but give the media & the leaders their orders and public opinion can be swung fairly quickly.

Hard to say what will happen yet but Americans looking for a clue as to where your November 4th election may go, should probably keep an eye on Canada's October 14th election.

http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_26602.aspx

[Matt Hatter]

We need to get Harper that Bush humpin lover, North American Union Promoter out of power.

[RickT]

We need to get Harper that Bush humpin lover, North American Union Promoter out of power.

I guess I look at things in the bigger picture of what I feel will actually hold the NWO agenda back a bit longer (more time to fight).  & under a Dion government, I think it's all out toward the world government dream.  Hell, I can see him being able to push Canada into the EU system somehow.  He's definitely in favor of a hand gun ban... Harper wouldn't be able to push that through.  I really think the NWO look upon Dion and get a woody... an NWO wet dream.

Imagine Alberta, Saskatewan, Nova Scotia & Newfoundland being put under a giant carbon taxation scheme?  Talk about kicking the crap out of the middle class of this country.  Sorry, I don't agree & while we can say there's no difference between these people, there is a difference in how quickly they can get certain things done.  I just feel the status quo of a minority Conservative Government keeps everyone on check.  No party can do anything too outrageous.  Gridlock is good & with 3 leftist parties vs. 1 right, the only way to hold gridlock is keep things as they are.

Dion's on TV now saying he wants assualt rifles completely banned too. 

[Matt Hatter]

I am torn between the NDP and CAP.

Both voice opposition to the NAU. I see the difference between them is if the NDP would actually do it, and the CAP being popular enough to have a voice?

[RickT]

I am torn between the NDP and CAP.

Both voice opposition to the NAU. I see the difference between them is if the NDP would actually do it, and the CAP being popular enough to have a voice?

The NDP or CAP will never get enough seats to form a government and Jack is full of shit anyway, same as the other 2.

[akston]

Dion says Harper is 'laissez-faire'... it's a complete (*&*! joke. Harper is emphatically NOT laissez-faire. Liberals are as much fans of tar as the 'conservatives' it seems - both are equally willing to tar free market capitalism by equating it with corporate-controlled statism, which is what we *actually* have. Wake up, people - capitalism isn't about having the government in corporation's back pockets. They must be seperated for the exact same reasons that the church and state are seperated. Although I understand Harper's minions want to do away with *that* as well.

PM's allegations 'open lies': Dion
Speaking earlier, Dion decried the Tories' latest allegations over the GST and the child-care benefit as "open lies" and in turn targetted Harper's "laissez-faire" approach to Canada's economic woes.

Dion added his so-called Green Shift carbon tax plan would benefit a majority of Canadians and is a direction recommended by a "great number" of economists and environmentalists.

[akston]

So, basically, there's no-one to vote for. I can't even vote for the Canadian Action Party in good faith. Yeah, they're pro 911-truth.  But look at their platform. Their big economic idea is to repatriate our monetary system from the international statist central banks to Canada's statist central bank and then fire up the printing presses to flood the economy with fake liquidity. It's Keynesianism in overdrive. The question is, is it better for someone else to shoot you in the head or to do it yourself?

So... we got the bad Straussian fascist cop Harper. We got the good globalist cop Dion. Where you gonna put your X, slave? GAAAH!

[RickT]

Askton, that's why I figure another Conservative minority is the only ideal we can hope for over the next few years, anyway.

None of them can be trusted with a majority.  So I hope people just vote the same way they did last time.  Just revote your present MP.

As I said... gridlock

[Matt Hatter]

Any alarm bells going off here. This election is so close to the US election. Does Harper know something the American and Canadian Public do not know? Why call an election now? Bush wants McCain in office and Harper wants Harper in office. Will there be a war, an event, a something.....

[RickT]

Any alarm bells going off here. This election is so close to the US election. Does Harper know something the American and Canadian Public do not know? Why call an election now? Bush wants McCain in office and Harper wants Harper in office. Will there be a war, an event, a something.....

I believe that's what I was saying in the 1st paragraph of this thread.

Harper wouldn't be deciding when to call an election... his, Dion's & Jack's handlers would.  & Bush is not going to care who 'wins' the election in the US... I suspect all he wants to do is own a money losing baseball team again.  And Harper will lose if he's told to lose... maybe he has a mental breakdown during the debates or get caught on an open mic saying something highly contraversal.  & does he know something the public doesn't know?  Of course he does.  They all do.

From your choices, I vote for "a something" happening. 

[akston]

I believe that's what I was saying in the 1st paragraph of this thread.

Harper wouldn't be deciding when to call an election... his, Dion's & Jack's handlers would.  & Bush is not going to care who 'wins' the election in the US... I suspect all he wants to do is own a money losing baseball team again.  And Harper will lose if he's told to lose... maybe he has a mental breakdown during the debates or get caught on an open mic saying something highly contraversal.  & does he know something the public doesn't know?  Of course he does.  They all do.

From your choices, I vote for "a something" happening. 

I'll take the dark horse by a nose, say Harper and McCain throw it, and we get Obama and Dion to usher in the 'multi-lateral' (read: UN-moderated, no sovereign states) world the CFR and various academic outlets have been writing about so furiously the last couple of months.

Well, suppose it couldn't be any worse than what we have now, right? 

(Little dialectical joke on all of us, there.)