Watchmen-NWO justification for exterminating billions with false flag

[tonyg]

Hmm, dunno.  All I know is that 300 was pretty damn gay so this movie is probably going to be just as dumb.  Not really into the super hero thing anyway.  I do however think the electricity guy is neat-o.

I dunno, I shouldn't judge it until I see it.  I could be wrong and I might very well like it.

Enemy of the state was awesome.  Abyss kinda sucked but was interesting.  I like Men In Black.  I love Will Smith.

Aliens 1 and 2 was good and the first Aliens vs. Predator.

Oh almost forgot:

 

what does 300 and a neo-con like Frank Miller have to do with Watchmen and Alan Moore? please explain

[TheGoodFight1984]

Aye Watchmen is anti-NWO, and yes I've read the comic novel, a friend lent it me ages ago telling me "i have to read it, it's right up my street"

Maybe the film has twisted from the book, havent seen it yet

[squarepusher]

People, just remember the eugenicists invented the word 'moron'. So be careful that you don't 'become' what you hate or fear.

The word 'moron' in the eugenicists' mind means - you are a sub-species that deserves to die.

http://max-bro.net/2008/09/02/33-disturbing-but-true-facts-about-eugenics/

6. The term “moron” comes from the eugenic movement. Coined by Henry Goddard, an early eugenic founder, it comes from the Greek word moros, meaning “stupid and foolish.” We use the term lightly these days as a kind of vague, almost teasing insult. For Goddard and the eugenic community, a “moron” was anyone deemed unfit for life and indeed a target to be eliminated.

[vCFy7W3SFb]

I'll be posting his analysis of the film and comic as soon as the show is on pp.tv .

[Irobot]

Watchmen 2009
NOT THE GREATEST BUT HERE IT IS.
http://www.freemoviestheatre.com/video/4152-Watchmen_2009.html
.

[vCFy7W3SFb]

Original source was Watchmen.TS.XViD-CAMERA
don't use those stupid websites designed for 'dumbed down' people.

[InfoTruth]

Watchmen 2009
NOT THE GREATEST BUT HERE IT IS.
http://www.freemoviestheatre.com/video/4152-Watchmen_2009.html
.

Thanks but it's probably a cam version.

[TheGoodFight1984]

all the pirated copies that are out now are fully shit, don't bother wasting your time.. they either have the beginning missing or they're horribly out of sync with 20 mins of german audio at the end.

there is a full length animated film out that was released last year, better checking that one out

[plantop14]

Maybe most of these type of films mentioned in this thread is just the NWO getting off on f--king with our pitiful, lower than thou feeble little minds!

[squarepusher]

Maybe most of these type of films mentioned in this thread is just the NWO getting off on f--king with our pitiful, lower than thou feeble little minds!

Most of these movies are exactly like this.

Think, people, think. Who finances these movies? These are not guys sitting in their mother's basement, you know - big bucks are involved here, and if they don't like the message your movie is trying to convey, they either change the ending to whatever suits them best, block its sale, prohibit its funding, or demonize it in the media.

[Dig]

What is the premise of the movie?  Something about superheros?  supermen?  where have I heard about supermen before?

[tonyg]

What is the premise of the movie?  Something about superheros?  supermen?  where have I heard about supermen before?

First off, people need to stop referring to the Watchmen is a movie. It’s a book written over 20 years ago

Secondly, it has next to nothing to do with superheroes. Superheroes are merely a backdrop/story element to further a very deep and philosophical message and to pose socially poignant questions to the reader.

It’s a social commentary that goes beyond the boundaries of right/wrong and good/evil. There are protagonists and antagonists which need to be separated from “good guys and bad guys”. The protagonists in this story are not “good guys”. They are a reflection of our society and who we are. The story is a warning for us. If anything it is more relevant now than it was then. Especially after 9-11.  That is why I feel Alex Jones never actually read the graphic novel (which is a very long read if you try and actually understand every little thing on every page).

If the movie was changed and altered to deliver a different message, then that’s the movie’s problem. Don’t attribute that to Alan Moore and The Watchmen.

[RonPaulRocks]

Killing Kennedy.

[Dig]

First off, people need to stop referring to the Watchmen is a movie. It’s a book written over 20 years ago

Secondly, it has next to nothing to do with superheroes. Superheroes are merely a backdrop/story element to further a very deep and philosophical message and to pose socially poignant questions to the reader.

It’s a social commentary that goes beyond the boundaries of right/wrong and good/evil. There are protagonists and antagonists which need to be separated from “good guys and bad guys”. The protagonists in this story are not “good guys”. They are a reflection of our society and who we are. The story is a warning for us. If anything it is more relevant now than it was then. Especially after 9-11.  That is why I feel Alex Jones never actually read the graphic novel (which is a very long read if you try and actually understand every little thing on every page).

If the movie was changed and altered to deliver a different message, then that’s the movie’s problem. Don’t attribute that to Alan Moore and The Watchmen.

I think more people are likely to see the movie than read the comic book.  have you seen the movie yet?  perhaps in the movie, the backdrop is now the forefront.

[rjagator78]

What every Christian needs to know about the movie the Watchmen is that it has an underlying occultic and even satanic message to it. The movie is overwhelmed with Masonic symbols and themes  of the occult. This is not surprising since the author of the graphic novel-Alan Moore-is a practicing ”magician” and occultist who publicly admits he worships a Roman snake-deity named Glycon.  Research intellpedia to learn more.

Several scenes in the movie showed the occultic symbolism. One of the characters in the movie is named “Moloch,” which comes from the ancient Canaanite god also known as Baal. The god Moloch took the form of a calf and required human sacrifice in a fire.  One of the scenes shows Moloch going through his mail and that he has a letter from his evil organization “Pyramid Transnational” and interestedly enough from the Catholic Jesuit Order.  The pyramid is a classic symbol of freemasonry, and the Jesuits probably represent the Illuminati-who’s founder Adam Weishaupt  was a former Jesuit seminarian excommunicated from the Church.  The Illuminanti were an elite secret society that were at the top of the Masonic Order.

Another more central character of the movie is Dr. Manhattan.  He was a former nuclear physicist transformed into a near omnipotent being.   He states in the movie "I don't think there is a god," and if there is, I'm nothing like him." But in fact, he is like a god, and he represents the Masonic idea of the “new man” that can become like a god through the knowledge of science, technology, and the wisdom of the ancient mystery religions.

Adrian Veidt also known has Ozymandias-a brilliant businessman with a master plan. He resurrects a pyramid temple to himself and within the temple it reads “Ozymandias King of Kings.” He represents the coming Masonic Messiah that the Masons and other occultists actually believe is coming. He will be the one to fulfill the missing capstone on the top of the pyramid and bring a lasting peace. Christians commonly refer to this person as the anti-christ. He commits a monstrous act of terrorism and scape-goats Dr. Manhattan for the crime. The viewer is left with the impression that the plan is good for humanity- for millions to perish based upon a lie in order to achieve “world peace” through global governance.     

There are also striking scenes mocking Christianity. A scene harkens back to Leonardo Da Vinci’s Last Supper ,in which a lesbian sits at the table. Another scene depicts an act of carnal pleasure with a song of "Hallelujah" playing to it.  Although, the final scene is probably the most telling to what the real message of this movie is. It shows the arrival of the mail with an important letter, and if you look closely you will see the return address of one the letters in the basket. The postal code is 00999, but upside down it reads 00666. Know your enemy.     

[Suriel]

What is the premise of the movie?  Something about superheros?  supermen?  where have I heard about supermen before?

Let me put it this way when you see the movie or read the comic you will be thinking of the research that Bill Cooper did.  Sorry if I spoiled the plot for you.

[Suriel]

Downloaded the film added 1984 scene

Road Warrior was also a clip shown on one of the screens.

[2010]

I haven't seen the movie nor read the book.

But from experience of other things like this it depends on peoples views of what anti NWO is.

I mean some people will claim something is anti-NWO if it shows the NWO in a bad light.
Others will see it as pro NWO because it's just the NWO showing off.

[tonyg]

What every Christian needs to know about the movie the Watchmen is that it has an underlying occultic and even satanic message to it. The movie is overwhelmed with Masonic symbols and themes  of the occult. This is not surprising since the author of the graphic novel-Alan Moore-is a practicing ”magician” and occultist who publicly admits he worships a Roman snake-deity named Glycon.  Research intellpedia to learn more.

Several scenes in the movie showed the occultic symbolism. One of the characters in the movie is named “Moloch,” which comes from the ancient Canaanite god also known as Baal. The god Moloch took the form of a calf and required human sacrifice in a fire.  One of the scenes shows Moloch going through his mail and that he has a letter from his evil organization “Pyramid Transnational” and interestedly enough from the Catholic Jesuit Order.  The pyramid is a classic symbol of freemasonry, and the Jesuits probably represent the Illuminati-who’s founder Adam Weishaupt  was a former Jesuit seminarian excommunicated from the Church.  The Illuminanti were an elite secret society that were at the top of the Masonic Order.

Another more central character of the movie is Dr. Manhattan.  He was a former nuclear physicist transformed into a near omnipotent being.   He states in the movie "I don't think there is a god," and if there is, I'm nothing like him." But in fact, he is like a god, and he represents the Masonic idea of the “new man” that can become like a god through the knowledge of science, technology, and the wisdom of the ancient mystery religions.

Adrian Veidt also known has Ozymandias-a brilliant businessman with a master plan. He resurrects a pyramid temple to himself and within the temple it reads “Ozymandias King of Kings.” He represents the coming Masonic Messiah that the Masons and other occultists actually believe is coming. He will be the one to fulfill the missing capstone on the top of the pyramid and bring a lasting peace. Christians commonly refer to this person as the anti-christ. He commits a monstrous act of terrorism and scape-goats Dr. Manhattan for the crime. The viewer is left with the impression that the plan is good for humanity- for millions to perish based upon a lie in order to achieve “world peace” through global governance.     

There are also striking scenes mocking Christianity. A scene harkens back to Leonardo Da Vinci’s Last Supper ,in which a lesbian sits at the table. Another scene depicts an act of carnal pleasure with a song of "Hallelujah" playing to it.  Although, the final scene is probably the most telling to what the real message of this movie is. It shows the arrival of the mail with an important letter, and if you look closely you will see the return address of one the letters in the basket. The postal code is 00999, but upside down it reads 00666. Know your enemy.     

The scattered imagery is part of the genius of this work. It’s not subliminal. It’s not meant to trick people. It’s done on purpose to show people that these things are real in our society and it is how our society functions. It in no way supports and promotes this view. That is why in some ways this book is definitely not meant for weak minded simpletons that can’t see past what’s put directly in front of them.

Also, since when did you have to be a Christian to be against a world dictatorship like the NWO?

PS: Alan Moore’s belief in “Glycon” is mainly a joke and a slight at the conformity of organized religion. Obviously you would have realized this if you heard it from his own mouth and not some sensationalized article written to misrepresent him.

[hyperqube]

Several scenes in the movie showed the occultic symbolism. One of the characters in the movie is named “Moloch,” which comes from the ancient Canaanite god also known as Baal. The god Moloch took the form of a calf and required human sacrifice in a fire.  One of the scenes shows Moloch going through his mail and that he has a letter from his evil organization “Pyramid Transnational” and interestedly enough from the Catholic Jesuit Order.  The pyramid is a classic symbol of freemasonry, and the Jesuits probably represent the Illuminati-who’s founder Adam Weishaupt  was a former Jesuit seminarian excommunicated from the Church.  The Illuminanti were an elite secret society that were at the top of the Masonic Order.

so is this moloch a good guy or bad guy in the movie?

would you say that alex jones' dark secrets is full of occult symbolism?

[Suriel]

so is this moloch a good guy or bad guy in the movie?

would you say that alex jones' dark secrets is full of occult symbolism?

The character Moloch has a minor part in the movie.

[personguy]

Alan Moore isn't an illuminist.
He's isn't a Freemason either. I'd really like Alex to state his source on this before he goes defaming people. He made a book outing the masons for doing the Jack the Ripper murders!
And before you bash Watchmen for being "evil"; just because they're 'symbols' doesn't mean something is 'evil'. Alan is well aware of what's really going on and while he doesn't go full speed ahead with it he reflects it in his work.
The book was made back in like.. 1985, you could say with it he technically predicted 911 before anyone else did. Alan has been an asset to real truth seekers of the world for centuries now ( his next book is even one where the villians are Alister Crowley and the Masonic Occult orders trying to take over the world) .. please don't slander the man if you don't know what you're talking about. I hope Alex sees this so he can take another look at this and maybe have a second opinion. I've been a huge fan of yours for years Alex and this is the first thing you've said that's really bothered me so I hope you take another look into it. The movie may of skewed the message a bit (it's from the guy who made that pro iran war propaganda shite 300 after all) but I don't see anything that would make Alan a bad person.. if anything he seems like a Jordan Maxwell who write comic books. Hopefully he'll agree to do your show though the discussion would explode my brain.

[personguy]

for centuries now

that should have read "for decades now"
But again I reiterate If there's anything "occult" about Alan Moore he's a "white mage" as opposed to the opposite. He's pretty pimp when it comes to being a truth warrior or what have you it's just not what most of you are used to.

[Roarshock]

Wtf is Alex on? Has he actually read the graphic novel? Watchmen carries an anti-NWO message. It was written by Alan Moore who wrote V for Vendetta. He is an anti government anti globalist. Rorschach was the protagonist and the movie was a warning about our future. That’s why Rorschach was killed. Because he realized what was done was wrong and he had to let the people know. Rorschach was the protagonist, NOT the bad guy..

How can Alex totally get it backwards. Watchmen is just to heady for some people it seems. I have not seen the movie but i have read the book. Alex should read the book and comment on that, not some stupid holywood movie and then attribute what was in the movie to Alan Moore who was against it in the first place.

Yeah I just registered here to say that Alex has Alan Moore all wrong.

First of all, Alex says Alan Moore is an admitted Freemason.  I can find no source verifying this.

I think the movie adaptation watered down the anti-NWO message and warnings of the book.  In the book, Ozymandias(or as Alex calls him Ozymandeemus   ) wears an all seeing eye on his big golden armored collar and makes the following quote: "My new world demands less obvious heroism...you usher in an age of illumination so dazzling that humanity will reject the darkness in its heart..."  These (obvious symbols of and allusions to the Illuminati) aspects of the book were removed from the film adaptation.  Another aspect that was removed was the Pyramid Industries symbol that was peppered throughout panels in the book, an allusion to the omnipresence of the Illuminati.  At the books end, it's fairly apparent that ultimately, Ozymandias plan ultimately fails thanks to Rorschach's journal, and when Ozy asks Dr. Man if he did the right thing, it all worked out in the end, Dr. Man replies, "In the end?  Nothing ends, Adrian. Nothing ever ends."

I just can't see how Alex says Moore is a propagandist for the NWO.  Moore's book From Hell is an indictment of the Freemasons being behind the Jack the Ripper murders.  Even better to prove my point, Moore wrote a relatively unknown book called Brought to Light which is an expose on the weapons and drug running operations of the CIA.  It was so controversial for its time that even self styled establishment fighter, Jello Biafra chickened out of releasing an audio version for fear of the CIA coming down on his two bit publishing outfit.

As far as the movie goes, it was better than I expected.  I give it 3 out of 5 stars and hope it doesn't put anyone off from actually reading the book.  The book gets 10 out 5 stars.  

Anyway, I sure would like to see where Moore admits to being a Freemason as Mr. Jones claims repeatedly on his radio show.

[Dig]

Yeah I just registered here to say that Alex has Alan Moore all wrong.

First of all, Alex says Alan Moore is an admitted Freemason.  I can find no source verifying this.

I think the movie adaptation watered down the anti-NWO message and warnings of the book.  In the book, Ozymandias(or as Alex calls him Ozymandeemus   ) wears an all seeing eye on his big golden armored collar and makes the following quote: "My new world demands less obvious heroism...you usher in an age of illumination so dazzling that humanity will reject the darkness in its heart..."  These (obvious symbols of and allusions to the Illuminati) aspects of the book were removed from the film adaptation.  Another aspect that was removed was the Pyramid Industries symbol that was peppered throughout panels in the book, an allusion to the omnipresence of the Illuminati.  At the books end, it's fairly apparent that ultimately, Ozymandias plan ultimately fails thanks to Rorschach's journal, and when Ozy asks Dr. Man if he did the right thing, it all worked out in the end, Dr. Man replies, "In the end?  Nothing ends, Adrian. Nothing ever ends."

I just can't see how Alex says Moore is a propagandist for the NWO.  Moore's book From Hell is an indictment of the Freemasons being behind the Jack the Ripper murders.  Even better to prove my point, Moore wrote a relatively unknown book called Brought to Light which is an expose on the weapons and drug running operations of the CIA.  It was so controversial for its time that even self styled establishment fighter, Jello Biafra chickened out of releasing an audio version for fear of the CIA coming down on his two bit publishing outfit.

As far as the movie goes, it was better than I expected.  I give it 3 out of 5 stars and hope it doesn't put anyone off from actually reading the book.  The book gets 10 out 5 stars.  

Anyway, I sure would like to see where Moore admits to being a Freemason as Mr. Jones claims repeatedly on his radio show.

Well freemasons definitely love Alan Moore:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/42072348@N00/141732314/

[Dig]

Say what you want, but this is some seriously hilarious satire:

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Alan_Moore

looks like they got AJ too: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Alex_Jones

And Icke: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/David_Icke

Oh snap, Obama: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Barack_obama Put up the pics by Brocke

[hyperqube]

still need to see the movie but not quite sure how relevant that is.

[personguy]

  Even better to prove my point, Moore wrote a relatively unknown book called Brought to Light which is an expose on the weapons and drug running operations of the CIA.

Haha, oh wow.. that sounds awesome. Downloading the torrent now.

More via wikipedia:
Shadowplay:
 It covers the history of the Central Intelligence Agency and its controversial involvement in the Vietnam War, the Iran-Contra affair, and its relationship with figures like Augusto Pinochet and Manuel Noriega. The narrator of Shadowplay is an aging anthropomorphic American Eagle, a bellicose retired CIA agent.

It was Moore's first major work which was not superhero oriented, it was highly praised for its storytelling and Sienkiewicz's sometimes brutal art. Moore received praise especially for blending the sometimes overwhelming mass of details into a coherent and effective story. Over the years there have been rumours that Moore was unable to travel to America due to the CIA being annoyed at his story in Brought to Light. However this was proved to be no more than a rumour and the real reason was due to Moore not renewing his passport.[1]

The story of "Shadowplay" is of an unseen character (presumably representing the oblivious American public in first-person view of the reader) in a bar, where he is approached by a man-sized, walking, talking eagle. The eagle, from the emblem of the CIA, proceeds to drink alcohol and, in a drunken stupor, divulge all the bloody details of The Agency's sordid past. Early on a reference is made to the number of gallons an olympic swimming pool can hold, and the fact that an adult human body has one gallon of blood; from then on, the victims of CIA activities (directly or indirectly) are quantified in swimming pools filled with blood. Sienkiewicz's dark, erratic, and blurry images keep the mood of Moore's narration (through the boozing eagle) unnerving, and hazily nightmarish.

[personguy]

Well freemasons definitely love Alan Moore:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/42072348@N00/141732314/

They love Texe Marrs apparently too, cause they have his book there too
http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Majesty-Secret-Brotherhood-Thousand/dp/0962008672

Also another big masonic exposé book being Steven Knight's The Brotherhood.
In fact it looks like every book there I can recognize is staunchly anti-masonic.

[CFF]

Hermes, while wandering in a rocky and desolate place, gave himself over to meditation and prayer. Following the secret instructions of the Temple, he gradually freed his higher consciousness from the bondage of his bodily senses; and, thus released, his divine nature revealed to him the mysteries of the transcendental spheres. He beheld a figure, terrible and awe-inspiring. It was the Great Dragon, with wings stretching across the sky and light streaming in all directions from its body. (The Mysteries taught that the Universal Life was personified as a dragon.) The Great Dragon called Hermes by name, and asked him why he thus meditated upon the World Mystery. Terrified by the spectacle, Hermes prostrated himself before the Dragon, beseeching it to reveal its identity. The great creature answered that it was Poimandres, the Mind of the Universe, the Creative Intelligence, and the Absolute Emperor of all. (Schure identifies Poimandres as the god Osiris.) Hermes then besought Poimandres to disclose the nature of the universe and the constitution of the gods. The Dragon acquiesced, bidding Trismegistus hold its image in his mind.

Immediately the form of Poimandres changed. Where it had stood there was a glorious and pulsating Radiance. This Light was the spiritual nature of the Great Dragon itself. Hermes was "raised" into the midst of this Divine Effulgence and the universe of material things faded from his consciousness. Presently a great darkness descended and, expanding, swallowed up the Light. Everything was troubled. About Hermes swirled a mysterious watery substance which gave forth a smokelike vapor. The air was filled with inarticulate moanings and sighings which seemed to come from the Light swallowed up in the darkness. His mind told Hermes that the Light was the form of the spiritual universe and that the swirling darkness which had engulfed it represented material substance.

Then out of the imprisoned Light a mysterious and Holy Word came forth and took its stand upon the smoking waters. This Word--the Voice of the Light--rose out of the darkness as a great pillar, and the fire and the air followed after it, but the earth and the water remained unmoved below. Thus the waters of Light were divided from the waters of darkness, and from the waters of Light were formed the worlds above and from the waters of darkness were formed the worlds below. The earth and the water next mingled, becoming inseparable, and the Spiritual Word which is called Reason moved upon their surface, causing endless turmoil.

Then again was heard the voice of Poimandres, but His form was not revealed: "I Thy God am the Light and the Mind which were before substance was divided from spirit and darkness from Light. And the Word which appeared as a pillar of flame out of the darkness is the Son of God, born of the mystery of the Mind. The name of that Word is Reason. Reason is the offspring of Thought and Reason shall divide the Light from the darkness and establish Truth in the midst of the waters. Understand, O Hermes, and meditate deeply upon the mystery. That which in you sees and hears is not of the earth, but is the Word of God incarnate. So it is said that Divine Light dwells in the midst of mortal darkness, and ignorance cannot divide them. The union of the Word and the Mind produces that mystery which is called Life. As the darkness without you is divided against itself, so the darkness within you is likewise divided. The Light and the fire which rise are the divine man, ascending in the path of the Word, and that which fails to ascend is the mortal man, which may not partake of immortality. Learn deeply of the Mind and its mystery, for therein lies the secret of immortality."

The Dragon again revealed its form to Hermes, and for a long time the two looked steadfastly one upon the other, eye to eye, so that Hermes trembled before the gaze of Poimandres. At the Word of the Dragon the heavens opened and the innumerable Light Powers were revealed, soaring through Cosmos on pinions of streaming fire. Hermes beheld the spirits of the stars, the celestials controlling the universe, and all those Powers which shine with the radiance of the One Fire--the glory of the Sovereign Mind. Hermes realized that the sight which he beheld was revealed to him only because Poimandres had spoken a Word. The Word was Reason, and by the Reason of the Word invisible things were made manifest. Divine Mind--the Dragon--continued its discourse:

"Before the visible universe was formed its mold was cast. This mold was called the Archetype, and this Archetype was in the Supreme Mind long before the process of creation began. Beholding the Archetypes, the Supreme Mind became enamored with Its own thought; so, taking the Word as a mighty hammer, It gouged out caverns in primordial space and cast the form of the spheres in the Archetypal mold, at the same time sowing in the newly fashioned bodies the seeds of living things. The darkness below, receiving the hammer of the Word, was fashioned into an orderly universe. The elements separated into strata and each brought forth living creatures. The Supreme Being--the Mind--male and female, brought forth the Word; and the Word, suspended between Light and darkness, was delivered of another Mind called the Workman, the Master-Builder, or the Maker of Things.

"In this manner it was accomplished, O Hermes: The Word moving like a breath through space called forth the Fire by the friction of its motion. Therefore, the Fire is called the Son of Striving. The Workman passed as a whirlwind through the universe, causing the substances to vibrate and glow with its friction, The Son of Striving thus formed Seven Governors, the Spirits of the Planets, whose orbits bounded the world; and the Seven Governors controlled the world by the mysterious power called Destiny given them by the Fiery Workman. When the Second Mind (The Workman) had organized Chaos, the Word of God rose straightway our of its prison of substance, leaving the elements without Reason, and joined Itself to the nature of the Fiery Workman. Then the Second Mind, together with the risen Word, established Itself in the midst of the universe and whirled the wheels of the Celestial Powers. This shall continue from an infinite beginning to an infinite end, for the beginning and the ending are in the same place and state.

"Then the downward-turned and unreasoning elements brought forth creatures without Reason. Substance could not bestow Reason, for Reason had ascended out of it. The air produced flying things and the waters such as swim. The earth conceived strange four-footed and creeping beasts, dragons, composite demons, and grotesque monsters. Then the Father--the Supreme Mind--being Light and Life, fashioned a glorious Universal Man in Its own image, not an earthy man but a heavenly Man dwelling in the Light of God. The Supreme Mind loved the Man It had fashioned and delivered to Him the control of the creations and workmanships.

"The Man, desiring to labor, took up His abode in the sphere of generation and observed the works of His brother--the Second Mind--which sat upon the Ring of the Fire. And having beheld the achievements of the Fiery Workman, He willed also to make things, and His Father gave permission. The Seven Governors, of whose powers He partook, rejoiced and each gave the Man a share of Its own nature.

"The Man longed to pierce the circumference of the circles and understand the mystery of Him who sat upon the Eternal Fire. Having already all power, He stooped down and peeped through the seven Harmonies and, breaking through the strength of the circles, made Himself manifest to Nature stretched out below. The Man, looking into the depths, smiled, for He beheld a shadow upon the earth and a likeness mirrored in the waters, which shadow and likeness were a reflection of Himself. The Man fell in love with His own shadow and desired to descend into it. Coincident with the desire, the Intelligent Thing united Itself with the unreasoning image or shape.

"Nature, beholding the descent, wrapped herself about the Man whom she loved, and the two were mingled. For this reason, earthy man is composite. Within him is the Sky Man, immortal and beautiful; without is Nature, mortal and destructible. Thus, suffering is the result of the Immortal Man's falling in love with His shadow and giving up Reality to dwell in the darkness of illusion; for, being immortal, man has the power of the Seven Governors--also the Life, the Light, and the Word-but being mortal, he is controlled by the Rings of the Governors--Fate or Destiny.

"Of the Immortal Man it should be said that He is hermaphrodite, or male and female, and eternally watchful. He neither slumbers nor sleeps, and is governed by a Father also both male and female, and ever watchful. Such is the mystery kept hidden to this day, for Nature, being mingled in marriage with the Sky Man, brought forth a wonder most wonderful--seven men, all bisexual, male and female, and upright of stature, each one exemplifying the natures of the Seven Governors. These O Hermes, are the seven races, species, and wheels.

"After this manner were the seven men generated. Earth was the female element and water the male element, and from the fire and the æther they received their spirits, and Nature produced bodies after the species and shapes of men. And man received the Life and Light of the Great Dragon, and of the Life was made his Soul and of the Light his Mind. And so, all these composite creatures containing immortality, but partaking of mortality, continued in this state for the duration of a period. They reproduced themselves out of themselves, for each was male and female. But at the end of the period the knot of Destiny was untied by the will of God and the bond of all things was loosened.

"Then all living creatures, including man, which had been hermaphroditical, were separated, the males being set apart by themselves and the females likewise, according to the dictates of Reason.

"Then God spoke to the Holy Word within the soul of all things, saying: 'Increase in increasing and multiply in multitudes, all you, my creatures and workmanships. Let him that is endued with Mind know himself to be immortal and that the cause of death is the love of the body; and let him learn all things that are, for he who has recognized himself enters into the state of Good.'

[Roarshock]

Well freemasons definitely love Alan Moore:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/42072348@N00/141732314/

How is this proof that Freemasons love Alan Moore?  How do we know the actual location of this bookshelf and who owns it?

It seems to be a small section of some sort of library that is dedicated to books containing the subject of Freemasonry, not an actual bookshelf from inside a Freemason Lodge.

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What is up with all the Moore worshipers? I never even heard of this guy.  He did From Hell, right?  Jack the ripper.  Amazing cult following.  Please someone explain how this guy is anti-NWO.  Does he write about civil liberties, personal freedoms, what is it?

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Masonic Ritual Murders AKA Jack the Ripper
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Masonic_Ritual_Murders.htm
- by Uri Dowbenko ©

“Jack the Ripper is a misnomer," writes Stephen Knight beginning his landmark book, "Jack the Ripper: The Final Solution." "The name conjures up visions of a lone assassin, stalking his victims under the foggy gaslight of Whitechapel. It is just this mistaken notion, inspired almost solely by that terrifying nickname, which rendered the murders of five East End prostitutes in 1888 insoluble. For Jack the Ripper was not one man, but three, two killers and an accomplice. The facts surrounding their exploits have never before been teased from the confused skeins of truths, half-truths and lies which have been woven around this case." Likewise, the film "From Hell," partially based on Knight's book, is a horror movie and occult thriller-murder mystery, directed by Albert and Allen Hughes ("Menace II Society", "Dead Presidents") and written by Terry Hayes and Rafael Yglesias.

Based on the graphic novel of the same name by Alan Moore and Eddie Campbell, "From Hell" is a richly sculpted, fictionalized version of the suppressed history of England - how a cabal of Freemasons orchestrated the so-called "Jack the Ripper" murders.

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A Freemason Speaks

Author Stephen Knight wrote one of the seminal books on freemasonry called 'The Brotherhood' in 1983. During the course of his research for this book he was introduced to a man known as 'Christopher', a mason of the highest 33rd degree ranking. In the Cafe Royal, London, Christopher showed him the papers demonstrating the authenticity of his masonic rank and told Knight that he was keen to "stop the rot" in freemasonry. Stephen Knight asked him what a person might have to fear from a group of influential freemasons if circumstances made him, for instance, a threat to them in the business world; or if he discovered they were using masonry for corrupt purposes; or had fallen a victim of their misuse of freemasonry and would not heed warnings not to oppose them.

'Christopher', 33rd degree mason: "It is not difficult to ruin a man and I will tell you how it is done time and again. There are more than half a million brethren under the jurisdiction of the Grand Lodge. Standards have been falling for twenty or thirty years. It is too easy to enter the Craft, so many men of dubious morals have joined. The secrecy and power attract such people, and when they come the decent leave. The numbers of people who would never have been considered for membership in the fifties are getting larger all the time. If only five per cent of freemasons use - abuse - the Craft for selfish or corrupt ends it means there are 25,000 of them. The figure is much closer to twelve or thirteen per cent now."

Stephen Knight: "Christopher explained that masonry's nationwide organization of men from most walks of life provided one of the most efficient private intelligence networks imaginable. Private information on anybody in the country could normally be accessed very rapidly through endless permutations of masonic contacts - police, magistrates, solicitors, bank managers. Post Office staff, doctors, government employees. Bosses of firms. A dossier of personal data could be built up on anybody very quickly. When the major facts of an individual's life were known, areas of vulnerability would become apparent. Perhaps he is in financial difficulties; perhaps he has some social vice - if married he might 'retain a mistress' or have a proclivity for visiting prostitutes; perhaps there is something in his past he wishes keep buried, some guilty secret, a criminal offence (easily obtainable through freemason police of doubtful virtue), or other blemish on his character: all these and more could be discovered via the wide-ranging masonic network of 600,000 contacts, a great many of whom were indisposed to do favours for one another because that had been their prime motive for joining. Even decent masons could often be 'conned' into providing information on the basis that 'Brother Smith needs this to help the person involved'. The adversary would even sometimes be described as a fellow mason to the Brother from whom information was sought - perhaps someone with access to his bank manager. The 'good' mason would not go to the lengths of checking with Freemason's Hall whether or not this was so. If the 'target' was presented as a Brother in distress by a fellow mason, especially a fellow lodge member, that would be enough for any upright member of the craft. Sometimes this information gathering process - often involving a long chain of masonic contacts all over the country and possibly abroad - would be necessary. Enough would be known in advance about the adversary to initiate any desired action against him.

'Christopher', the 33rd degree mason: "Solicitors are very good at it. Get your man involved in something legal - it need not be serious - and you have him."

Stephen Knight: "Masons can bring about the situation where credit companies and banks withdraw credit facilities from individual clients and tradesmen, said my informant. Banks can foreclose. People who rely on the telephone for their work can be cut off for long periods. Masonic employees of local authorities can arrange for a person's drains to be inspected and extensive damage to be reported, thus burdening the person with huge repair bills; workmen carrying out the job can 'find' - in reality cause - further damage. Again with regard to legal matters, a fair hearing is hard to get when a man in ordinary circumstances is in financial difficulties. If he is trying to fight a group of unprincipled freemasons skilled in using the 'network' it will be impossible because masonic DHSS and Law Society officials can delay applications for Legal Aid endlessly."

'Christopher', 33rd degree mason: "Employers, if they are freemasons or not, can be given private information about a man who has made himself an enemy of masonry. At worst he will be dismissed (if the information is true) or consistently passed over for promotion. Masonic doctors can also be used. But for some reason doctors seem to be the least corruptible men. There are only two occurrences of false medical certificates issued by company doctors to ruin the chances of an individual getting a particular job which I know about. It's not a problem that need greatly worry us like the rest.

"Only the fighters have any hope of beating the system once it's at work against them. Most people, fighters or not, are beaten in the end, though. It's.... you see, I... you finish up not knowing who you can trust. You can get no help because your story sounds so paranoid that you are thought a crank, one of those nuts who think the whole world is a conspiracy against them. It is a strange phenomenon. By setting up a situation that most people will think of as fantasy, these people can poison every part of person's life. If they give in they go under. If they don't give in it's only putting off the day because if they fight, so much unhappiness will be brought to the people around them that there will likely come a time when even their families turn against them out of desperation. When that happens and they are without friends wherever they look, they become easy meat. The newspapers will not touch them. "There is no defense against an evil which only the victims and perpetrators know exists."

In the movie, Inspector Fred Abberline (Johnny Depp) tries to make sense of the serial murders in a lower-class London ghetto plagued by poverty and violence. When he's not on the job, Abberline tries to deal with the death of his wife by soaking his sorrows in absinthe and opium. Chasing the dragon, he's stoned again, when he sees the grisly murders through his astral vision - a drug-induced psychic journey through the netherworld.

Tracking him down to an opium den, his obese sidekick Peter Godley (Robbie Coltrane) brings him back to consensus reality with a well-placed bitch slap.

Meanwhile, Mary Kelly (Heather Graham) and her hooker friends are being extorted by a gang of thugs.

Abberline follows the clues, leading him to a conspiracy at the highest levels of Government and Freemasonry -- Sir William Gull (Ian Holm), the Queen's physician, and Sir Charles Warren (Ian Richardson), Commissioner of Police and member of the Ars Quator Coronatorum Masonic Lodge - confidants to Queen Victoria herself.

A gripping, well-styled movie, "From Hell" is a bold revision of history based on Knight's ground-breaking research.

Historically, this cabal of high-level Masons was determined to "protect" the Monarchy - and preserve their own control of the Government.

After all, conspiracies of States are always informative because of the depths of depravity that show what men will do to preserve the status quo of the Ruling Class and Power Elite. In this case, the movie deftly illustrates that xenophobia and unvarnished hypocrisy are the hallmarks of the outwardly prim and proper Victorian Age. The flood of immigrants. The rising tide of socialism. The perceived threat of Catholicism to the Crown. The possibility of working-class uprising. These were all political factors in an age when the debauchery of the Ruling Class was a fact of life, as were the ruthlessness and corruption of the Crown.

"A great deal is at stake if the Establishment considers it necessary to operate a full scale cover-up," writes Knight. "For the truth of the Jack the Ripper affair to have been painstakingly concealed can mean nothing less than State security was at risk, or that someone high in the Government or the Royal Family was involved."

Author Stephen Knight, in his out of print masterpiece, "Jack the Ripper: The Final Solution," explains how Britain's entire political system at the end of the 19th century was threatened by the hidden facts -- Prince Albert Victor ("Eddy") was not only bisexual, but he had married a Roman Catholic girl and fathered a child with her. Evidently these debaucheries were so scandalous that the Ruling Class would not abide even the slightest hint of this revelation.

When a group of working girls (Annie Chapman, Marie Kelly, Elizabeth Stride and Mary Nichols) decided to blackmail the Royals, the Marquess of Salisbury, then Prime Minister, had to take care of the problem. He entrusted Sir William Gull, physician and abortionist to the Royal Family, for the mission.

One of the country's most prominent Freemasons, Gull understood that "Freemasonry was the power behind the Government and it was the unseen influence of the Masonic elders which dictated major policies, not the pleasing façade of Commons debate."

The deliberately engineered panic, i.e., the murder of five prostitutes, was done according to Masonic ritual. The ritual murder and disembowelment "met with such ghastly success because of the audacity with which they were executed," said Walter Sickert, Knight's informant whose painter-father had intimate knowledge of the Cleveland Street murders. This so-called "audacity" is a trademark of Masonic "mischief-making."

"Freemasons applaud violence, terror and crime, provided it is carried out in a crafty manner," writes Knight. "Humor is all important and the most appalling crimes may be committed under its cloak."

In fact, one of the key Masonic insights into human nature, says Knight, is the reaction of people to terrorism and serial ritual murders executed with great skill. In other words, people will marvel and say, "What a dirty trick, but how skillfully executed. What a swindle, but how well and with what courage it has been done."

This macabre sense of humor (or base insanity) is the trademark of Masonic Magick - to cause an effect, by an act so devilish yet cunning, that the entire world pays attention - while it's virtually terrorized and traumatized in the same collective gasp of horror.

"Ghoulish murders with a Puckish sense of fun" characterizes these atrocities.

(For example - how could they possibly drive those planes into the towers?)

"If Masonic supremacy appears in jeopardy, it is reestablished by a show of strength, by crimes of violence, perpetrated to demonstrate the continuing power of Freemasons for the benefit of Brothers abroad," writes Knight. "Crimes of violence would have been committed to reestablishing Masonic authority in the eyes of Masons everywhere."

"All Jack the Ripper victims were dispatched according to age-old Masonic ritual," Knight continues. The mutilations of the "unfortunates" were done according to Masonic tradition, the standard way of dealing with "traitors." In fact, the oath recited by initiates promises a ghastly death and mutilation -- in the case of "betrayal."

"From Hell" actually shows a Masonic ritual of initiation, and the candidate's recited vow of promised retribution in the case of his "betrayal" sounds like a dictation from the devil himself.

It is, after all, the standard Illuminati Two Fer (Two, Two, Two for the Price of One). In this case, Number One is to eliminate the blackmailers and witnesses, the prostitutes who knew about Eddie's indiscretions. And Number Two is to instill terror in the general populace by horrific murders (and "unsolved mysteries"), which traumatize the people into deeper submission and subconscious programming.

The "deliberately engineered panic" to which Knight refers has been used historically to shift the paradigm from a scam which is about to be uncovered to a new collective "concern."

The movie "Wag the Dog," of course, illustrates this concept with unsurpassed brilliance. Divert attention from a potential scandal (the President's sexual indiscretions) to a greater potential problem (a "manufactured" war) and the entire population is once again under a "hoodwink."

As Dr. Albert Mackey, a 33rd Degree Freemason writes in "The Encyclopedia of Freemasonry," a hoodwink is "a symbol of the secrecy, silence and darkness in which the mysteries of the art should be preserved from the unhallowed gaze of the profane."

In other words, when attention is diverted even for a nanosecond, the con artist (shell game practitioner, or magician) once again confuses his mark. The street-wise expression is simply "The House Always Wins."

Knight maintains that Inspector Abberline was historically part of the cover-up himself, and that the real "hero" was actually Ernest Parke, a twenty nine year old editor of the North London Press, "who pinpointed in his newspaper the deliberate mishandling of the brothel investigation and trial. He attacked the police not only for allowing one of the conspirators to escape to the Continent, but also for giving him so much time in which to do so that he managed to take his furniture with him. He attacked the court for passing a sentence of four months for Veck, who has been one of the worst offenders in an unsavory case."

Then Parke himself was charged with criminal libel in an unrelated case and sentenced to a year's imprisonment, effectively silencing him for probing much too deeply.

Though finding out that the "Jack the Ripper" murders, masterminded by Freemasons and perpetrated according to Masonic ritual, is an astonishing revelation to many people, the Whitechapel Murders are not the first to be attributed to Masonic skullduggery.

Freemason Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, who left the brotherhood in his later years, was allegedly poisoned for his "betrayal," as well as for revealing their esoteric secrets in "The Magic Flute."

William Morgan, author of a major 19th century expose of the Brotherhood called "Freemasonry Exposed," was murdered.

Film director Stanley Kubrick mysteriously died after his ritual-obsessed movie "Eyes Wide Shut" was completed.

And yes, Stephen Knight, author of "Jack the Ripper: The Final Solution" mysteriously died after his best-selling expose' "The Brotherhood: The Secret World of the Freemasons" was published in 1984.

The Craft is alive and (very) well on Planet Earth.

As a fictionalized account of the Ripper killings, "From Hell" gets closer to true history than any other work of fiction -- or even so-called "history" itself. It even shows the genesis of today's voodoo science and its bizarre obsession with psycho-surgery or lobotomies as well as cut-and-burn AMA-sanctioned "medicine."

Most importantly, "From Hell" shows, in gruesome detail, the deep long-standing connection between the world's most mysterious society and the world's most mysterious murders.

Conspiracy, after all, is not just "Business-As-Usual;" it's also "Government-As-Usual."

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They love Texe Marrs apparently too, cause they have his book there too
http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Majesty-Secret-Brotherhood-Thousand/dp/0962008672

Also another big masonic exposé book being Steven Knight's The Brotherhood.
In fact it looks like every book there I can recognize is staunchly anti-masonic.

Actually, looks like they are not such great admirers (from an actual freemason website):

Freemasonry in From Hell
 http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/fiction/from_hell.html

Subtitled a melodrama in sixteen parts, this "graphic novel"contains many errors and outright fabrications about Freemasonry. As an example, shown above is a set of panels from chapter 2, page 7, misrepresenting two points of masonic law and one of history. The rules of regular Freemasonry strictly prohibit the solicitation of members, or the use of Freemasonry to promote one’s career. And there is no documentation even suggesting that Dr. William Gull—whose bloody hands are shown— was ever a freemason.

Later, one of the several mythical origins of Freemasonry is repeated in conversation: "The Dionysiac architects?" "unmistakably.. A secret fraternity of Dionysus cultists originating in 2,000 B.C, they worked on Solomon’s temple, eventually becoming the Middle Ages' travelling Masonic guilds" [chapter 2, p. 14]

Chapter 2, pages 8, 9, 16 and 17 are filled with mistaken notions of masonic ritual and regalia. An appendex attempts to give a pseudo-scholarly veneer to this work of fiction, but the author’s lack of masonic research and his reliance on other works of fiction is telling :

"Details of Gull’s meteoric medical career are accurate, and drawn from A Biographical Sketch. Gull’s entry into Freemasonry is more problematic. The only source would seem to be The Final Solution, in which Knight dates Gull’s involvement with the craft from 1842, when the 26 year-old was employed at Guy’s Hospital. The Masons themselves have since denied that Gull was ever a member of their order, and have generally derided the claims made in Knight’s books, including The Brotherhood (Grafton Books, 1989), wherein Knight suggests that higher-level Freemasons pay homage to a bizarre triple-deity known as Jah-Bul-On. In at least this last denial, the Masons it seems may be telling less than the full truth: Martin Short’s Inside The Brotherhood (Grafton Books, 1989) seems to confirm that, despite Masonic denials, Jah-Bul-On is an authentic Masonic deity. How much, then, can their denial of Gull’s Masonic status be trusted? The problem we face here is that neither Knight nor the assembled ranks of Freemasonry are necessarily telling the truth, at which point an obscuring Victorian fog starts to engulf the facts of our narrative. Given that the tortuous story of the Whitechapel murders is filled with liars, tricksters, and unreliable witnesses, it is a fog we shall encounter often. The suggestion that Benjamin Harrison provided Gull’s entrance to the world of Freemansonry is entirely my own invention, based upon little more than Gull’s professed lifelong gratitude toward Harrison, Harrison’s comment to Gull (reported in A Biographical Sketch) that "I can help you if you will help yourself," and the fact that he happened to be in the right place at the right time according to Knight’s construction of events. In all other respects, Harrison’s inclusion during this scene is simply a convenience of fiction." [Appendex to volume one: page 7.]

"These pages attempt, after suggestions made by Stephen Knight in Jack the Ripper: The Final Solution, to explain why William Gull, ostensibly a talented doctor of no great social importance, should be appointed to treat the Queen’s son, Albert, Prince of Wales, as happened in 1871. Gull’s sudden appointment over the head of Sir William Jenner, hitherto the queen’s favorite physician, has never been explained, and thus the suggestion of Masonic influence proposed by Knight is extremely tempting in this context. Details of Masonic ritual recounted in these pages are inexact and drawn from numerous sources. Since the rituals depicted here are apparently kept secret even from lower-ranking Masons themselves, problems with accurate reportage will be appreciated. Gull’s initiation ordeal as a Master Mason is based freely on the research of Robert Anton Wilson as utilized in his Illuminatus! trilogy (Sphere Books, 1977) and in his various articles for Gnosis magazine. Wilson may also be given credit for identifying the Masonic verbal distress signal, "Will no one help the Widow’s son," The use of the word 'juwes" is suspect, being solely based upon claims by Knight in The Final Solution and The Brotherhood (see also John J. Robinson’s Born in Blood, published by Century Books, 1990). The three assassins of Masonic myth-figure Hiram Abiff are individually named Jubela, Jubelo, and Jubelum. Collectively, they are most often known as "The Three Ruffians," and only Knight claims "Juwes" as an alternative collective noun." [Appendex to volume one: pages 16 & 17.]

From Hell, being a melodrama in sixteen parts. Volume One, prologue, chapters one & two. 1991, 1992, 1994 Alan Moore and Eddie Campbell Northampton, MA : Mad Love Publishing in association with Kitchen Sink Press, Inc., 1994 ISBN : 0-87816-286-0. Originally serialized in Taboo #2 and #3 by SpiderBaby Grafix & Publications. First published by Tundra Publishing Ltd. in March 1991. Printed in Canada. Also see From Hell, The Hughes Brothers, Terry Hayes, Rafael Yglesias (screenplay) 2001, 122 min.

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What is up with all the Moore worshipers? I never even heard of this guy.  He did From Hell, right?  Human head eating tree story.  Amazing cult following.  Please someone explain how this guy is anti-NWO.  Does he write about civil liberties, personal freedoms, what is it?

Read the thread. He's written anti-CIA stories, predicted 9/11 in watchmen, bashed Freemasons for being behind Jack the Ripper, he wrote V which is arguably the foremost and popular fictional book thats pro civil liberties and personal freedoms on the market today ,  his next 3 books are about the heroes fighting Alistair Crowley and his Occult buddies.. just because the guy uses symbolism in his books doesnt make him a bad guy. Especially since he uses it to denote the villains. He even villainized Moloch back in 87 before it was cool   .

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Here's an excerpt from his anti-CIA book:
Um, well, you know, up to a point. It was quite a revelation when I actually researched it - well, no, it wasn't a revelation entirely, having grown up in the '60s I'd been exposed to more bizarre conspiracy theories than most but this wasn't conspiracy theory, it was conspiracy fact. It was an artistic challenge putting it all together. I was very pleased with the final result. I heard a nice little story from a film director who's actually making a film based upon the memoirs of a spook who was a part of most of the ventures that we talk about in Brought to Light, including all the Miami stuff, all the stuff in Vietnam in Operation Phoenix and all that sort of stuff, this guy was a veteran of those campaigns. The director of the film gave him a copy of Brought to Light and said "Here, see what you think of this," and the guy came back in the next morning - as the director described it to me, this spook came in in a state of semi-shock. For one thing he was surprized by some of the things that we knew and had printed, little things like the Australian CIA bugging facility which no-one's supposed to know about and the hand that it had in overthrowing Gough Whitlam's Labour government. But the thing that he was most shaken by was the characterization of the Eagle. He just said "That's us. That's all of us guys. That's us!"

I'm trying to track it down now.. sounds hilarious. There's an audio version.. If I can find it and I remember I'll toss it up on the site here.

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Here's an excerpt from his anti-CIA book:
Um, well, you know, up to a point. It was quite a revelation when I actually researched it - well, no, it wasn't a revelation entirely, having grown up in the '60s I'd been exposed to more bizarre conspiracy theories than most but this wasn't conspiracy theory, it was conspiracy fact. It was an artistic challenge putting it all together. I was very pleased with the final result. I heard a nice little story from a film director who's actually making a film based upon the memoirs of a spook who was a part of most of the ventures that we talk about in Brought to Light, including all the Miami stuff, all the stuff in Vietnam in Operation Phoenix and all that sort of stuff, this guy was a veteran of those campaigns. The director of the film gave him a copy of Brought to Light and said "Here, see what you think of this," and the guy came back in the next morning - as the director described it to me, this spook came in in a state of semi-shock. For one thing he was surprized by some of the things that we knew and had printed, little things like the Australian CIA bugging facility which no-one's supposed to know about and the hand that it had in overthrowing Gough Whitlam's Labour government. But the thing that he was most shaken by was the characterization of the Eagle. He just said "That's us. That's all of us guys. That's us!"

I'm trying to track it down now.. sounds hilarious. There's an audio version.. If I can find it and I remember I'll toss it up on the site here.

yeah looks like we need more info on this guy.  i do have to say that the previews are staunch in NWO sub-conscious conditioning, but the comic books/books/writings/whatever may be something completely different. it does happen.  BTW if anyone finds a good clean torrent of the film, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO POST IT ON THIS WEBSITE!

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billy crudup from the movie will be on daily show in about 15 minutes. maybe he can shed some light

[Mustard911]

Anyone that isn't aware of the director of this film, need to do their research.  Notice I didn't say, homework...

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'Hollywood's War on God' is  good documentary to watch to understand the evil behind the screen.


http://hollywoodswar.com/