Watchmen-NWO justification for exterminating billions with false flag

[personguy]

Okay, here's the CIA one.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=L65UN1CN
It also has an accompanying soundtrack where the Agent is speaking while you read.. nice atmosphere.
To read the actual comic you have two options. Google "comic book reader" and you'll get a program that automatically displayed pages full screen and you navigate via scroll bar or arrow keys. If you don't want to do this WinRar will also open the .cbr files and you can view the jpgs if you are at work or something and can't download the program.

[thadividedsky]

Okay, here's the CIA one.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=L65UN1CN
It also has an accompanying soundtrack where the Agent is speaking while you read.. nice atmosphere.
To read the actual comic you have two options. Google "comic book reader" and you'll get a program that automatically displayed pages full screen and you navigate via scroll bar or arrow keys. If you don't want to do this WinRar will also open the .cbr files and you can view the jpgs if you are at work or something and can't download the program.

Thanks for the link. I'll read it a few times then watch the movie 1 more time.

[Mber]

all im going to say is dreamworks/wb... you figure the rest out.... back when sun microsystems wasnt evil.....

[CaptainFreedom09]

Okay, here's the CIA one.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=L65UN1CN
It also has an accompanying soundtrack where the Agent is speaking while you read.. nice atmosphere.
To read the actual comic you have two options. Google "comic book reader" and you'll get a program that automatically displayed pages full screen and you navigate via scroll bar or arrow keys. If you don't want to do this WinRar will also open the .cbr files and you can view the jpgs if you are at work or something and can't download the program.

HEY THANKS A LOT !!!!!!!! SUPER KICK ASS !!!!!!!

[Jonathan Oldstyle]

Alan Moore is most assuredly not a Freemason (one only need read From Hell to realise this), let's just put that falsehood to bed. Conversely, he is most assuredly an anti-establishment maverick attuned to the occult underpinnings of society, hence the abundance of esoteric symbolism in his works. And, as others have pointed out, he has completely disowned the ridiculous Hollywood adaptations of his novels, is in no way involved in their production (he claims not even to watch them), and has consistently refused any compensation from the films. For instance, he has selflessly given all profits made on Watchmen to his artist Dave Gibbons. The man has got tons of integrity, so it's rather depressing hearing people ostensibly unacquainted with his work traduce his name, or conflate these inane blockbusters with the books.

Anyone with an interest in Moore and his motivations should find the following documentary enlightening:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucba9NtF3cE

[vCFy7W3SFb]

make sure to watch the four part review of the film before you 'newbies' start belching out your filthy troll posts.
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=91913.0

[personguy]

Generally don't like to pirate stuff I support but I'm gonna toss out a link to From Hell as well.
Same as before.. download a copy of 'Comic Book Reader' from google. It's not a virus you can google it and see that it's the supported medium for online comic reading. Barring that you can unzip the .cbr file with winrar and read the individual files. If you like it buy it.

[hellcatjr]

I went and took a peak at this movie...

I do have to say, I had a load of chuckles seeing an 'actor' play Henry Kissinger talking to Nixon.

Overall, it is what you would come to expect of a movie this caliber. Lots of fighting, blood, cynical comments and oh more violence. And some where in between there is some lightly sprinkled semi soft-core porno.

But whatever.

Anyhow, I'm sure this will win over a bunch, but it'll certainly be hit or miss.

As for symbolism, loads of it. I know many listeners of AJ never bother to actually go a head and do their own research, so many will miss the symbolism in the movie - but it is everywhere. False Hegelian control paradigm, the names and the rest have obviously been lifted from the pagan elite (Muloch?)

All in all, if you're a profane, you're most likely going to be awestruck. Visually the movie is top notch. The sound track is what you'd come to expect from this movie... mostly music of last generation - rocky - attempting to convey the imagery... but ya know - whatever.

Anyhow, lost 3 hours of my life watching it. I don't regret it because for what it is, it's just a movie loosely based upon 'facts' - or ideals, many of the characters are like Greek gods (labels for functions of something greater).

Regardless, its Hollywood magic wand waving distortion at its finest.

[mr anderson]

Talk about fanboys 

A simple analysis turned into a fanboy-gasm.

It has symbolism in it, period.

Yes it is a movie = entertainment, but entertainment is also used for predictive programming / conditioning.

And if you fanboys can't grasp that the blue guy's circle on his forehead isn't symbolic of the 'All seeing eye' (Eye of Providence) then that's where you need to start.

[personguy]

Generally don't like to pirate stuff I support but I'm gonna toss out a link to From Hell as well.
Same as before.. download a copy of 'Comic Book Reader' from google. It's not a virus you can google it and see that it's the supported medium for online comic reading. Barring that you can unzip the .cbr file with winrar and read the individual files. If you like it buy it.

Aaand I forgot the link
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=237od0hh

[personguy]

Talk about fanboys 

A simple analysis turned into a fanboy-gasm.

It has symbolism in it, period.

Yes it is a movie = entertainment, but entertainment is also used for predictive programming / conditioning.

And if you fanboys can't grasp that the blue guy's circle on his forehead isn't symbolic of the 'All seeing eye' (Eye of Providence) then that's where you need to start.

Ehhh I dunno.. It's a symbol but not necessarily nefarious..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_eye

[Dig]

everybody satisfied with the new title?

[Theo42]

yeah that is the point, the NWO holy wooders have taken a probably independent comic and turned it into some homage to theosophy.  That is probably why Moore doesn't support it.  To me, this is about the movie not Moore.  I have not seen more overhyping for dancing blue penises since bush was choking on a pretzel

I agree with this completely.  It is clear they have turned this into their own creation to get their views across.. Seems they are doing this more and more with these sci-fi/super hero type movies.

Anyone who says this is not NWO, doesn't know what NWO is.

[NX]

everybody satisfied with the new title?

no, it offends me.

[Theo42]

THE ONLY PERSON  OVERHYPING DANCING BLUE PENISES IS YOU.  I HAVE NEVER HEARD OR READ ANYONE ELSE TALK ABOUT THAT SCENE IN THE MOVIE EXCEPT FOR YOU.  SO I GUESS THAT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT YOU SANE !!!  THE BLUE PENIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MOVIE !!!

Gee, my two buddies I went with couldn't stop talking about how overly gay the whole thing was.  Oh, and the people behind me, yeah, they kept saying, "why the hell are they showing this penis all time, totally unnessecary".  Yup, Sane is completely gay....oy vey.  If it was a female vagina, I would be saying the same thing.  Totally not needed and disgusting at that.  I saw kids in the movie theatre as well.

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I'm reading the book right now.  It is really good.

And loaded with occult references and symbols.  I tend to think Alan Moore is like Dan Brown.  Took some cool aspects of a mythology and put them into a fictionalized story.

It is interesting to me that the story has themes that are relevant to today. 

Doomsday...Evolution...Change

"The American Dream"...(Obama?)

[jdog2050]

you guys are all becoming zombies. be careful you don't get brainwashed by Alex the same way the media and government brainwash you. He uses all their same tactics, the. exact. same., to get you behind him.

I gotta agree here.  There's multiple ways to read the watchmen.  If you wanna take the NWO slant, that's fine, you can, I guess.  But the overarching point of the movie and book are that their choice is extremely "gray area".  Sure, Ozymandias' plan succeeds in the short term, but in the long-term, Rorschach's journal will still be publishing and the truth of the event will be known, and what then?

My take on Moore's idea is that you have to let human's grow up on their own, and that all these NWO-style plans will lead to an eventual retaliation because people won't take being lied to.  And the NWO will always be based on lies.

On the symbology in the movies.  Come on.  Of course there's symbology; Moore is using a lot of ideas from all over the spectrum: Manhattan is a giant walking  quantum computer, Ozy is a Pharoah-esque figure, right down to the paedophilia, etc.  If you stop freaking out over simply seeing the symbology, you'll quickly see what Moore is making fun of.

[Suriel]

"That everyone should be the master of their own destiny.  Everyone should be their own leader.  This is something that I still believe.  I think that even a cursory look around the world at the moment, particularly at the moment, would reveal that it is about 0.000001% of the world's population that causes 99.99999% of the world's problems.  And that tiny percentage; it's not the Jewish banking conspiracy, it's not the asylum seekers, it's not the secret homosexual conspiracy running Hollywood, it's not even the  Sciencetologists.  It is leaders that- what we need is an administration at most.  We don't need people to boss us about." - Alan Moore from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX7ehbE1vc0

I don't necessarily agree with him on their being no conspiracy but everything else seems spot on to me.

[jdog2050]

"That everyone should be the master of their own destiny.  Everyone should be their own leader.  This is something that I still believe.  I think that even a cursory look around the world at the moment, particularly at the moment, would reveal that it is about 0.000001% of the world's population that causes 99.99999% of the world's problems.  And that tiny percentage; it's not the Jewish banking conspiracy, it's not the asylum seekers, it's not the secret homosexual conspiracy running Hollywood, it's not even the  Sciencetologists.  It is leaders that- what we need is an administration at most.  We don't need people to boss us about." - Alan Moore from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX7ehbE1vc0

I don't necessarily agree with him on their being no conspiracy but everything else seems spot on to me.

Thanks for posting this; someone above said that we wasted 5 pages debating a movie, but I think it's important SPECIFICALLY because people on this board and Alex are taking it entirely out of context without reading the source material, trying to understand what Snyder was doing while directing, etc.  It makes the movement look just as bad.

[hal 9000]

...people on this board and Alex are taking it entirely out of context without reading the source material, trying to understand what Snyder was doing while directing, etc.  It makes the movement look just as bad.

That is an utterly false statement. I saw the movie the other night, and arrived at exactly the same conclusions as Alex and the other detractors in this thread. The movie is a total rationalization for mass murder and cover up. It's as simple as that.

[Norrin]

Did anyone notice the TWO separate scenes in Ozymandias' office tower with the WTC in the back, and the blimp painted up like a bomb slooooooowly crossing the skyline, almost appearing as if it was going to crash into the towers?  Creeeeeeeepy.

[strgzr]

"Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways...Also I set a WATCHMEN over you; saying : Hearkin to the sound of the trumpet. But they said, We will not hearken" Jeremiah 6:16-17

...the new movie called: "watchmen is from an old cartoon book [ and this book in of the occult]; and the movie is now infecting youngsters with the idea of fantasy....
Beware and take notice that hollywood is up to no good [as always]; and they are not watchmen/ nor women my friends.....

Not more "Thus saith the Lord" crap. Will you ever understand you aren't winning any converts standing on your mountain with your burning bush and spouting this stuff? You just seem like a buffoon.

[mr anderson]

5 pages devoted to arguing over a f**king movie.

Good job you peons.

Ya you'll find when the board brings something up and then Alex gives his analysis the thread spawns cointelpro that seeks to divide & conquer.

eg. Zeitgeist, Ron Paul, Jordan Maxwell.

It's best just to move on to more intelligible threads. You'll find those with a few more clicks. 

[Roarshock]

Roar, you call it dumb, I call it freedom of opinion. It looks like you have a problem with me expressing my freedom of opinion. Do I have that correct?

Here's an idea, why don't you quote the part where I have a problem with your freedom of (dumb) opinion.  Show me.  Where do I express having this problem.

If I want to have the view of him being on the side of the NWO, then that's my right, plus what are you gonna do about it?

I'm not going to do anything about it but I and everyone else will know how irrational you are.

[Roarshock]

Talk about fanboys 

A simple analysis turned into a fanboy-gasm.

It has symbolism in it, period.

Yes it is a movie = entertainment, but entertainment is also used for predictive programming / conditioning.

And if you fanboys can't grasp that the blue guy's circle on his forehead isn't symbolic of the 'All seeing eye' (Eye of Providence) then that's where you need to start.

Many of us are just pissed about AJ spouting off falsehoods on this subject.

I believe it is an established maxim in morals that he who makes an assertion without knowing whether it is true or false is guilty of falsehood, and the accidental truth of the assertion does not justify or excuse him.

We expect better from AJ.

The hydrogen atom symbol looks nothing like the Eye of Providence symbol(no triangle, no brow, no border of the eye).  It's leaps of logic like this that make you people look like kooks.  Stick with the facts and you'll make more progress toward your goals.  By your logic, a triangle looks like a square, because they both have three sides, the square just has an extra.

I wonder if we'll hear more talk about Ozymandeemus today.

[photon]

btw, speaking of flags on the background, remember the infamous 'flying shoes' incident?
did you notice bushes' dodging let the second shoe hit the American flag behind him?
ain't the national flag more sacred than a citizen's, even the president's mug?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWt3-kPBQ4A&feature=related

[Roarshock]

Another falsehood uttered by AJ on his radio show was when he said Moore wrote the Sandman comics.  WRONG!

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At the end of the book, they are showing all of the dead bodies in the street and the giant creature...there is a movie marquee in the background.

The Day The Earth Stood Still.  Recently back in theaters, this movie deals with the shortcomings of the human race.  In the new version, the alien has come to protect earth from the humans.  The stupid unworthy humans need to be cleansed from the planet in order to save it.

Interesting coincidence that the movie version of The Watchmen would come out so close to that movie being in theaters again.

Moore is probably a theosophist just like Peter Joseph.  He has definitely involved parts of what the new agers refer to as "the plan" in his story.  Which doesn't bother me.  Moore is rather open about his beliefs.  Unlike the history channel who recently presented the exact same ideas in their special, Nostradamus 2012.  They don't tell you that their experts are Druids and members of the Zero Population Growth Society.

The book is an excellent read.  Incredibly creative.  I'm looking forward to seeing the movie. 

[GoingEtheric]

TO ALL DUMBASS, ALAN MOORE NERDS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oKG-8ytGCU&feature=related

Skip to 5:00 min to find out what Alan Moore is all about.
Skip to 9:00 min to find out who "V" was meant to be.

Makes friends with a lady in red, gets a hard-on from chaos, don't be too shocked. Z for satanic Zorro.

[personguy]

TO ALL DUMBASS, ALAN MOORE NERDS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oKG-8ytGCU&feature=related

Skip to 5:00 min to find out what Alan Moore is all about.
Skip to 9:00 min to find out who "V" was meant to be.

Makes friends with a lady in red, gets a hard-on from chaos, don't be too shocked. Z for satanic Zorro.

I'm not taking that Fundimental extremist BS with that little Ned Flanders turd seriously. All Alan says is that the Occult influences his work.. same goes for anyone in this field. That CIA comic I posted talked about Fema camps back in '88 for crying out loud.
You fundies and your trashing of anything that isn't cloaked in the name of a dead prophet are going to be the end of us.

[personguy]

That movie said that Moore was trying to channel Crowley and all this.. it's a complete fabrication. Moore has said in interviews that he respects him as a scholar but he thinks he's a douchebag as a person. Crowley is the villain in Moore's next comic and it's going to be a big secret society bashing.
 He doesn't like religion at all; but he said Satanism is worse because they're just like Christians only they're assholes on purpose.

The film reminds me of Spanish Inquisitors back in the Dark Ages who'll froth at the mouth and burn you at the stake for bringing anything hidden out into the light. He thinks Moore is evil because he doesn't understand what he's talking about because he can't wrap his head around anything outside of an old book of fairy tales.

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Moore has chosen to write about "The Plan".  

He has put symbols of a cult all over his work.  He's a cultist.  He's no different than those two guys who wrote the Left Behind books.

He is writing fiction based on the doctrine of a cult.  But, Moore's cult, unlike fundamentalist/traditional beliefs, believes in the power of symbols.  They believe that they get energy from having these signs in their works.  If they can either describe Lucifer or his agenda without it being readily noticed by the viewer, they believe they will have fortune.

Alan Moore is a Theosophical Fundamentalist.

He thinks that our refusal to acknowledge Lucifer will be the end of us...so your attacks on "fundies" seems ironic.

[personguy]

Here's a pic from Alan Moore's comic back in 88 talking about Fema camps I mentioned

Moore has chosen to write about "The Plan".  

He has put symbols of a cult all over his work.  He's a cultist.  He's no different than those two guys who wrote the Left Behind books.

He is writing fiction based on the doctrine of a cult.  But, Moore's cult, unlike fundamentalist/traditional beliefs, believes in the power of symbols.  They believe that they get energy from having these signs in their works.  If they can either describe Lucifer or his agenda without it being readily noticed by the viewer, they believe they will have fortune.

Alan Moore is a Theosophical Fundamentalist.

He thinks that our refusal to acknowledge Lucifer will be the end of us...so your attacks on "fundies" seems ironic.

Can you back any of this up other than that fact that the villains in his books have occult symbols? How can you back up at all that "He thinks that our refusal to acknowledge Lucifer will be the end of us" ? You're just making blind generalizations.
He puts that shit in his work because he wants to expose it. He's just a comic book writer not a talk show host or normal writer.

[37]

The Coming Theosophic World Religion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BonvnOyh2jc&feature=related

Tell me he isn't writing about The Plan.

He has a clock counting down to midnight throughout the book...doomsday.

He equates change with death.

He talks about evolution as personified by Dr. Manhattan.

[personguy]

Not this again. What's with you guys trying to equate absolutely everything thats not in your warm little niche as evil?
You're cutting off your left arm with your right and crippling yourselves.
If you don't stop this infighting you might as well bend over now and wait to be slaves.

[disinfomang]

There seems to be a whole lot of "sheeple" in this thread, only their master is Alex Jones.

[37]

Not this again. What's with you guys trying to equate absolutely everything thats not in your warm little niche as evil?
You're cutting off your left arm with your right and crippling yourselves.
If you don't stop this infighting you might as well bend over now and wait to be slaves.

Who's generalizing now? 

What, the guy is an admitted occultist and he puts it's symbols all over.  He is no different than the christian zealots.  He is writing about his religious beliefs.  You just happen to agree with them.

I see little difference between the Rapture stories of Revelations and what Moore is writing about.

[hellcatjr]

Talk about fanboys 

A simple analysis turned into a fanboy-gasm.

It has symbolism in it, period.

Yes it is a movie = entertainment, but entertainment is also used for predictive programming / conditioning.

And if you fanboys can't grasp that the blue guy's circle on his forehead isn't symbolic of the 'All seeing eye' (Eye of Providence) then that's where you need to start.

Thank you for stating the obvious.  

Everything in this Babylonian society reflects the 'in your face attitude' - so what's your point? It is not like we have any other 'sources' of true entertainment. We are a product of our 'creators' (of this society) - so what's your point? Alex is a product of his creators. He fights the NWO, if there were no NWO - there would be no prison planet.

So hate PP too because it is inspired by the actions of these nefarious individuals.

Secondly, this entire country was built upon their beliefs. The puritans were the only REAL Christians in America during it's establishment... after that EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE BIGGER LEADERS WAS A MASON / JACOBITE FOLLOWER.  

[tritonman]

wow all the nubes on the thread with one and the same agenda??   a coincidence ? I think not.  I will give them an F for fail. 

[personguy]

Who's generalizing now? 

What, the guy is an admitted occultist and he puts it's symbols all over.  He is no different than the christian zealots.  He is writing about his religious beliefs.  You just happen to agree with them.

I see little difference between the Rapture stories of Revelations and what Moore is writing about.

No, he's writing about fictional characters in comic books. If you want to compare that with religion I'd have to agree with you.