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BAN ENCRYPTION - Obama + British Prime Minister
« on: January 16, 2015, 05:46:38 AM »
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Can the government ban encryption?
By Jane Wakefield Technology reporter
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-30794953

Whenever the terrorist threat is increased, as it has been since the tragic events in Paris last week, so too are the calls from politicians to increase the powers of the people they employ to protect the public from such threats.

Those agencies can only do their job, the argument goes, if they have full access to the online chatter of those planning terrorist atrocities.

As the UK's Prime Minister David Cameron put it in a speech this week - there should be no "means of communication" which "we cannot read".

But in an era when communication takes many forms, and with the added problem that much of this communication is encrypted, how easy is it to turn this sound bite into reality?

For Mr Cameron the answer lies in a new "comprehensive piece of legislation" that will close the "safe spaces" used by suspected terrorists.

So what are those safe spaces?

Although Mr Cameron doesn't name any, it is likely he is referring to new apps such as WhatsApp and Snapchat which allow people to chat with relative anonymity by keeping their services encrypted.

But the battle is much more wide-ranging as established names such as Google and Apple promise to do more to ensure that encryption is used as default on their services. After the revelations from whistle-blower Edward Snowden about mass surveillance programs, firms are determined to be seen to be putting the control of their data back in the hands of consumers.

In the past, governments with the appropriate warrants could go to firms such as Apple and ask them to unlock the communications on phones.

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Re: BAN ENCRYPTION - Obama + British Prime Minister
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2015, 05:49:33 AM »
Cameron wants to ban encryption – he can say goodbye to digital Britain
Online shopping, banking and messaging all use encryption. Cameron either knows his anti-terror talk is unworkable and is looking for headlines, or he hasn’t got a clue


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/13/cameron-ban-encryption-digital-britain-online-shopping-banking-messaging-terror

On Monday David Cameron managed a rare political treble: he proposed a policy that is draconian, stupid and economically destructive.

The prime minister made comments widely interpreted as proposing a ban on end-to-end encryption in messages – the technology that protects online communications, shopping, banking, personal data and more.

In our country, do we want to allow a means of communication between people which we cannot read?”, the prime minister asked rhetorically.

To most people in a supposed liberal democracy, the answer would surely be “yes”: the right to privacy runs right in parallel to our right for free expression. If you can’t say something to a friend or family member without the fear the government, your neighbour or your boss will overhear, your free expression is deeply curtailed.

This means that even in principle Cameron’s approach is darkly paradoxical: the attack on Paris was an attack on free expression – but it’s the government that intends to land the killing blow.

Terrorists must not be allowed to disrupt our way of life, we’re often told in the wake of atrocities. We must leave that to governments to do in the wakes of these attacks.

But it’s in the practicalities that the prime minister’s approach slips from draconian to dull-witted. There is no such thing as “good guy encryption” and “bad guy encryption”. The same encryption that protects you and me protects companies, protects governments, and protects terrorists.

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Re: BAN ENCRYPTION - Obama + British Prime Minister
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2015, 06:07:07 AM »

Cameron to Obama: Force Tech Companies to Cooperate with Surveillance Agency
British government engaging in “cynical opportunism” following attack in France




Kurt Nimmo
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http://www.infowars.com/cameron-to-obama-force-tech-companies-to-cooperate-with-surveillance-agency/
January 15, 2015

The British Prime Minister, David Cameron, wants President Obama to pressure social media to cooperate with GCHQ, the British intelligence service that works closely with the NSA in the United States to surveil the internet and private electronic communication.

Intelligence services are increasingly critical of encryption methods used by Facebook and Twitter to secure the communications of users.

MI5 boss Andrew Parker took the tech giants to task for encryption and warned the “dark places from where those who wish us harm can plot and plan are increasing.”

Parker said tech companies must offer “greater co-operation” in the fight against terrorism and added that “privacy has never been an absolute right.”

Cameron’s request follows an earlier suggestion that the United Kingdom may outlaw online messaging services that use encryption.

Cameron, in a meeting scheduled for Friday in Washington, will ask Obama to support an effort to deny people the government considers terrorists and terrorist sympathizers a “safe place” on the internet.

Privacy International has accused Cameron and the British government of “cynical opportunism” in the aftermath of the Charlie Hebdo attack.

“Government officials … rally in the name of freedom and human rights claiming that the terrorists will never win and hate us for our freedoms. Then moments later … they attempt to curtail our rights they boldly proclaim in public as unassailable,” a spokesman for the group said.

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Re: BAN ENCRYPTION - Obama + British Prime Minister
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2015, 06:09:53 AM »
Cameron to lobby Obama for Facebook, Twitter help to monitor UK terror threat
http://rt.com/uk/222863-internet-privacy-crackdown-cameron/



David Cameron is expected to ask US President Barack Obama this week to put pressure on social networks such as Twitter and Facebook to help UK intelligence agencies monitor the online activities of hardline Islamists.

During talks in Washington due Friday morning, the British prime minister will seek Obama’s support for his plan to deny terrorists a “safe place” on the web.

Cameron, who will be the first European leader to meet Obama since the shootings in France last week, will outline a series of demands relating to US tech firms’ storage and use of online data.

Reflecting on the terror attacks in Paris, Cameron said Tuesday it was vital that UK intelligence agencies get access to encrypted online communications of suspected terrorists.

He argued that American internet firms such as Facebook and Twitter should be doing more to facilitate the surveillance efforts of UK government spy base GCHQ.

 At present, both Facebook and Twitter provide a platform for encrypted communications that can’t be unscrambled by intelligence officers.

While the US Justice Department and Whitehall have previously sought access to such encrypted data with official court orders, both requests were rejected amid privacy concerns.

Previously a niche policy concern, encryption has been catapulted onto the forefront of international debate following the disclosures of whistleblower Edward Snowden.

Snowden’s leaks, which uncovered invasive mass surveillance practices of US and British intelligence agencies, roused widespread concern from privacy rights advocates.

 Following the whistleblower’s disclosures, tech firms such as Apple, Google and Facebook introduced new measures to ensure spies could not access users’ data without court approval.

Facebook’s WhatsApp messaging platform began using a ramped up form of encryption in 2014 that even WhatsApp staff are unable to unscramble.

Apple, likewise, attracted criticism from America’s FBI in 2014 when it publicly announced its latest iPhone software could prevent law enforcement officers from accessing information stored on a suspect’s phone, even if they possess a search warrant.

 Obama is due to broach the issue of data security in his final State of the Nation address next week.

The scheduled US-UK talks mark Cameron’s last bilateral summit abroad prior to May’s general election. The PM will arrive in Washington on Thursday, and will dine with Obama at the White House in advance of Friday’s talks.

The two-day trip was originally intended to bolster Cameron’s image as a powerful statesman in advance of May’s election. But in the wake of the Paris shootings, it will be characterized by a more sober tone.

 Al-Qaeda has claimed credit for the Charlie Hebdo massacre, though Western intelligence officers are yet to substantiate this claim.

Civil liberties group Privacy International (PI) warns that Cameron and his Conservative party are guilty of “cynical opportunism” in the aftermath of the French terror attacks.

“Government officials ... rally in the name of freedom and human rights claiming that the terrorists will never win and hate us for our freedoms. Then moments later ... they attempt to curtail our rights they boldly proclaim in public as unassailable,” a spokesman for the group said.

The PI spokesman stressed the eradication of encrypted technologies and spaces on the web is beyond Britain’s capabilities.

“The UK simply cannot command foreign manufacturers and providers of services such as WhatsApp or Google Hangout to modify their services to accommodate the desires of British spies,” he said.

“While they can attempt to do so – much like the governments of Russia, Iran and Syria – such companies would be under no lawful obligation to comply with such absurd and dangerous demands.”

 On Wednesday, however, UK Home Secretary Theresa May told MPs all safe havens for online terrorist communications must be eradicated.

She stressed it was likely France’s counter-terror investigation in the wake of the Charlie Hebdo massacre relied on access to communications data to locate the suspects.

In their talks, Cameron and Obama are also expected to discuss trade, the world economy, counterterrorism, the West’s military campaign against Islamic State, Russia and Ebola.

It is also predicted that PM Cameron will put pressure on Obama to sanction the release of Shaker Aamer, the last remaining UK resident detained in Guantanamo.

The detainee’s lawyers fear his life will be in danger if US authorities deport him to Saudi Arabia, where he was born.

As Cameron made preparations to fly to Washington, evidence emerged that Aamer has been regularly beaten by Guantanamo guards.

Video evidence shows the terror suspect, who has been imprisoned at Guantanamo for 13 years without charge, being assaulted by guards on 315 separate occasions.

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Re: BAN ENCRYPTION - Obama + British Prime Minister
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2015, 07:15:52 AM »
 Obama and Cameron are definitely Co-Conspirators in a WAR against US!

In my opinion is they are both working for SATAN!!!  The Big Power Puppet Master!!!
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Common Sense ran away..."

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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2015, 07:29:41 AM »
They had a lot to say about this on RT.

Yet when I look in our press the story barely gets a mention. As for America, the NSA wipes it arse on the constitution everyday - and the media backs them up.

Snowdon and ALL those other people fighting for our RIGHT to PRIVACY are HEROES

Sorry, to shout an all that, but the right to privacy is universal right, its not unique to the US constitution, its EU and every other modern country.

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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2015, 08:50:15 AM »
They had a lot to say about this on RT.

Yet when I look in our press the story barely gets a mention. As for America, the NSA wipes it arse on the constitution everyday - and the media backs them up.

Snowdon and ALL those other people fighting for our RIGHT to PRIVACY are HEROES

Sorry, to shout an all that, but the right to privacy is universal right, its not unique to the US constitution, its EU and every other modern country.
Brilliant Mate and Spot On! We the People---means ALL PEOPLE from everywhere on EARTH!

The USA should be renamed The NSA--this Nation is already in HELLS Hand Basket!

This Nation Spies on its' Spies!!!
"When the Truth was murdered:
Common Sense ran away..."