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I can understand the structure from where the planes entered and above structures to collapse, but a straight line down perfectly? Nope. The weight is already present--fire doesn't add anymore weight to stress the structure below it. Anyone?  Agreed. They are saying that the force of the weight while falling caused the collapse of everything else. In itself, a feasible idea, but not so symmetrical and clean. Dan
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« Reply #82 on: August 28, 2008, 10:42:30 AM » |
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NIST and Jane Standley
I can't believe I just thought of this: according to NIST, a "new phenomenon" was needed to explain the collapse of 7WTC, underscoring (and constituting official US Government admission of) the fact that engineering experience and scientific theory, as they stood on 9/11/01, would not have allowed prediction of the collapse of 7WTC, which prediction was, however, successfully managed by the BBC, coming from London, with the London anchorman Phil Hayton first suggesting the collapse to Ms. Standley, who then prattles on about it in "of course it collapsed" fashion. According to the Venerable Beeb, Ms. Standley arrived in NYC shortly before 9/11, kind of like Ace Security guard Thane Eugene Caesar having, as his very first shift as a security guard in his life, the duty of following Bobby Kennedy around with a gun.
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« Reply #83 on: August 30, 2008, 01:48:13 AM » |
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Has anyone been emailing them about this silly 'report'? here's mine: Good morning NIST!
How are you?
Also, how stupid do you guys think people are?
While wars based on total lies continue, people will continue to call you up on your nonsensical BS - you're pretty much accomplice after the fact of the deaths of hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people home and abroad, but I guess you'll have a 'scientific' explanation to back that up, like 'methane from the tooth fairy's behind quarters expelled thousands of US troops by sheer coincedence, sending thousands to their deaths, whilst small fires caused guns to go off unexpectedly, all at the same time, killing innocent Iraqi civilians!"
you guys are so stupid it's untrue, you're not only insulting the intelligence of the people who pay your wages (taxpayers) but smiting your own names by putting them to these 1000 page buttwipes... hopefully you'll realise one day the gravity of what you're neck deep in.
Kind regards,
Andrew, Manchester UK.
p.s. please feel free to pass my email address on to the NSA so they can monitor me - that would be very exciting! 
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« Reply #84 on: August 30, 2008, 04:26:10 PM » |
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Well i think its completely false the government is forcing him to come up with something that can prove the conspiracists wrong which i think make them look like ass moles. Some one who's that dumb will believe it wasnt caused by explosives.
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« Reply #85 on: August 30, 2008, 04:28:56 PM » |
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even if they said non-stop gravity for years caused it to fall teh sheep would be like "make perfect sense!"
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« Reply #86 on: August 30, 2008, 04:41:05 PM » |
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In itself, a feasible idea, but not so symmetrical and clean.
Dan Agreed. It would be neat to re-create the govt. theory, meaning someone totally independent--not the govt. itself of the symmetrical and clean fall, if "they" are so confident this happened--show us in many a experiment; in fact this would make very good live TV.
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« Reply #87 on: August 30, 2008, 05:33:22 PM » |
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Has anyone been emailing them about this silly 'report'? here's mine:  Good one. Meanwhile there's apparently plans afoot to build several new skyscrapers in that city of yours, including a 60 storey job at the back of Piccadilly station (told to me on a tour of Ancoats the other day). Hope they've learned the lessons from those incompetents in New York........
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« Reply #88 on: August 30, 2008, 08:50:53 PM » |
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Okay, first things first....I have been drinking.  Yeah!!!!!! Anyway, I am pissed and kinda drunk at the same time here. I have been drinking and watching a video called "9-11 eyewitness", supplied to me by "Unitedwerefalling", thank you. http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=9-11+eyewitness&emb=0#The thing I saw was this. (If you can see the building 7 section) The collapse, as we have seen, starts with a crimp at the top, than a total free fall into its own footprint. There is a video that shows a classic ripple in the windows that shows the interior structure had disappeared. If fire had, as nist reports, weakened the main structural supports, than when it did collapse, it would have fallen straight down on the floors affected by the fire, than ALL of the upper floors would have either fell over or sttod there on thier own. Is there anyone out there that has the animation software to show this? I am trying to gather al kinds of video bits for a movie I am going to make. Thoughts? and quickly because I am really starting to feel the beer.  Dan
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« Reply #91 on: September 10, 2008, 01:58:25 AM » |
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Thanks Merlin. I could only watch just over 5 mins even though I downloaded what was supposed to be 28 mins to a CD. That happens with Google downloads for some reason.  I thought you made some very good points in what I saw, although if I was you I would have pointed out the obvious evidence for the brainwashed masses as well, (maybe you did later on?) such as the molten metal in the basement of WTC 7 that Sunder ignored, when he was discussing the matter of the fire and I would have pointed out that he lied when he said there were no explosions. Firemen heard them. When Sunder was on the topic of explosions you could have also mentioned that the videos DID show evidence of explosions - the squibs - I think there is one that shows the squibs at the side of WTC 7 and also the crimp in the middle before it collapsed is evidence of an explosion.
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« Reply #92 on: September 10, 2008, 11:15:28 AM » |
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Thank you KiwiClare.
That is strange you could only watch 5 min. Of course I haven't downloaded it myself, but it should be possible to watch it on Google. The first five minutes are just my initial reactions to what Dr. Sunder says. As the briefing progresses, his story becomes more of a pattern, and that allowed me to confirm my first reactions, plus more. Therefore it gets better as time progresses.
I pretty much did not use external information on purpose; I wanted to show the fallacies of his own words, because that is another way to tackle the infowars. I have not send out any information that would be questionable by some corkhead; I only reacted logically; at least that was my attempt.
I will try to download it myself to see if there are any errors.
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« Reply #93 on: March 09, 2009, 09:34:41 PM » |
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What I remember is when the caller from Toronto on Alex Jones Show mentioned he had the BBC video of Jane Standley reporting the collapse of Building 7 and it was still standing behind her. They removed that video so fast. And as people kept reuploading it accounts were being deleted including one I had. It was just a news clip. Why was YouTube removing it so fast?
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