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« on: August 05, 2008, 05:59:21 AM »

EXCLUSIVE: To Provoke War, Cheney Considered Proposal To Dress Up Navy Seals As Iranians And Shoot At Them»

Speaking at the Campus Progress journalism conference earlier this month, Seymour Hersh — a Pulitzer-Prize winning journalist for The New Yorker — revealed that Bush administration officials held a meeting recently in the Vice President’s office to discuss ways to provoke a war with Iran.

In Hersh’s most recent article, he reports that this meeting occurred in the wake of the overblown incident in the Strait of Hormuz, when a U.S. carrier almost shot at a few small Iranian speedboats. The “meeting took place in the Vice-President’s office. ‘The subject was how to create a casus belli between Tehran and Washington,’” according to one of Hersh’s sources.

During the journalism conference event, I asked Hersh specifically about this meeting and if he could elaborate on what occurred. Hersh explained that, during the meeting in Cheney’s office, an idea was considered to dress up Navy Seals as Iranians, put them on fake Iranian speedboats, and shoot at them. This idea, intended to provoke an Iran war, was ultimately rejected:

HERSH: There was a dozen ideas proffered about how to trigger a war. The one that interested me the most was why don’t we build — we in our shipyard — build four or five boats that look like Iranian PT boats. Put Navy seals on them with a lot of arms. And next time one of our boats goes to the Straits of Hormuz, start a shoot-up.

Might cost some lives. And it was rejected because you can’t have Americans killing Americans. That’s the kind of — that’s the level of stuff we’re talking about. Provocation. But that was rejected.

Watch it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slgBrbNXrbs

Hersh argued that one of the things the Bush administration learned during the encounter in the Strait of Hormuz was that, “if you get the right incident, the American public will support” it.

“Look, is it high school? Yeah,” Hersh said. “Are we playing high school with you know 5,000 nuclear warheads in our arsenal? Yeah we are. We’re playing, you know, who’s the first guy to run off the highway with us and Iran.”

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HERSH: There was a meeting. Among the items considered and rejected — which is why the New Yorker did not publish it, on grounds that it wasn’t accepted — one of the items was why not…

There was a dozen ideas proffered about how to trigger a war. The one that interested me the most was why don’t we build — we in our shipyard — build four or five boats that look like Iranian PT boats. Put Navy seals on them with a lot of arms. And next time one of our boats goes to the Straits of Hormuz, start a shoot-up. Might cost some lives.

And it was rejected because you can’t have Americans killing Americans. That’s the kind of — that’s the level of stuff we’re talking about. Provocation. But that was rejected.

So I can understand the argument for not writing something that was rejected — uh maybe. My attitude always towards editors is they’re mice training to be rats.

But the point is jejune, if you know what that means. Silly? Maybe. But potentially very lethal. Because one of the things they learned in the incident was the American public, if you get the right incident, the American public will support bang-bang-kiss-kiss. You know, we’re into it.

…What happened in the Gulf was, in the Straits, in early January, the President was just about to go to the Middle East for a visit. So that was one reason they wanted to gin it up. Get it going.

Look, is it high school? Yeah. Are we playing high school with you know 5,000 nuclear warheads in our arsenal? Yeah we are. We’re playing, you know, who’s the first guy to run off the highway with us and Iran.
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Kevin Drum adds:

If this story sounds familiar, that's because it is. In one of David Manning's famous memos describing a prewar meeting between George Bush and Tony Blair, he says that Bush admitted that WMD was unlikely to be found in Iraq and then mused on some possible options for justifying a war anyway:

"The U.S. was thinking of flying U2 reconnaissance aircraft with fighter cover over Iraq, painted in U.N. colours," the memo says, attributing the idea to Mr. Bush. "If Saddam fired on them, he would be in breach."

In the end, of course, we didn't do this. We just didn't bother with any pretext at all.
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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2008, 06:10:15 AM »



Do you think Dick Cheney (with his 5 deferments from going to the Vietnam war) would issue stand down orders for the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon?


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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2008, 06:18:12 AM »

Norman Mineta Confirms That Dick Cheney Ordered Stand Down on 9/11
Former Transportation Secretary Disputes 9/11 Commission Report Timetable for Dick Cheney and Reveals Lynn Cheney Was Also in PEOC Bunker Before Attack
http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/260607_mineta.html
Aaron Dykes / JonesReport | June 26, 2007 


Former Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta answered questions from members of 9/11 Truth Seattle.org about his testimony before the 9/11 Commission report.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-5PKQTUz5o

Mineta says Vice President Cheney was "absolutely" already there when he arrived at approximately 9:25 a.m. in the PEOC (Presidential Emergency Operations Center) bunker on the morning of 9/11. Mineta seemed shocked to learn that the 9/11 Commission Report claimed Cheney had not arrived there until 9:58-- after the Pentagon had been hit, a report that Mineta definitively contradicted.

Norman Mineta revealed that Lynn Cheney was also in the PEOC bunker already at the time of his arrival, along with a number of other staff. Mineta is on video testifying before the 9/11 Commission, though it was omitted in their final report. He told Lee Hamilton:

“During the time that the airplane was coming into the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President…the plane is 50 miles out…the plane is 30 miles out….and when it got down to the plane is 10 miles out, the young man also said to the vice president “do the orders still stand?” And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said “Of course the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary!?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfdOwt2v3Y

Mineta confirmed his statements with reporters, saying "When I overheard something about 'the orders still stand' and so, what I thought of was that they had already made the decision to shoot something down."

Norman Mineta made it clear to reporters-- who verified his quotes in written text alongside him-- that Mineta was indeed talking about a stand down order not to shoot down hijacked aircraft headed for the Pentagon.

After no shoot down took place, it became clear that Cheney intended to keep NORAD fighter jets from responding-- evidence that Cheney is guilty of treason, not negligence for allowing the Pentagon to be hit.

http://www.jonesreport.com/images/260607_docu_1.jpg
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http://www.jonesreport.com/images/260607_docu2.jpg
 

The idea that "the order still stands" matches up with a change in NORAD and Pentagon orders-- issued on June 1, 2001, only months before 9/11. The document revoked the default standing orders to shoot down errant or hijacked aircraft and instructed them instead to stand down until they were given orders by the President, Vice President or Secretary of Defense.

Mineta was still in the PEOG bunker when the plane was reported down in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

"I remember later on when I heard about the Shanksville plane going down, the Vice President was right across from me, and I said, 'Do you think that we shot it down ourselves?' He said, 'I don't know.' He said, 'Let's find out.' So he had someone check with the Pentagon. That was about maybe, let's say 10:30 or so, and we never heard back from the DoD until probably about 12:30. And they said, 'No, we didn't do it.'"

Of course, Donald Rumsfeld has stated before that the plane over Shanksville was "shot down," though whether it was a mistatement or a freudian slip of the truth is arguable. It certainly would seem that the story presented in United 93-- a dramatized account of the official government story-- is much, much less plausible than the plane simply being shot down.

 
Norman Mineta's Testimony Before the 9/11 Commission-- which was NOT included in the final report and which DISPUTES the Commission's timetable for Vice President Dick Cheney on 9/11 

Also, the two hour time delay is suspicious given the Vice President's own account of the dedicated video communications available that morning, as he told it to Tim Russert of Meet the Press on September 16, 2001.

"We had access, secured communications with Air Force One, with the secretary of Defense over in the Pentagon. We had also the secure videoconference that ties together the White House, CIA, State, Justice, Defense--a very useful and valuable facility. We have the counterterrorism task force up on that net. And so I was in a position to be able to see all the stuff coming in, receive reports and then make decisions in terms of acting with it."

At a bare minimum, this confirmation by Norman Mineta is in gross contradiction to the 9/11 Commission Report and poses serious questions about the Vice President's role in ordering NORAD to stand down on 9/11.
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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2008, 06:25:26 AM »

How can it not be more obvious that 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB?

Dick 'False Flag' Cheney is now on the record as promoting killing Americans for his personal agenda!

What is the difference between blowing up American Citizens in the straits of Hormuz and blowing up American Citizens in the twin towers?

THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE!

Here is more information concerning the path of self destruction that we are on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biCXQHexflY

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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2008, 06:27:36 AM »

cheney would do anything for the global NWO boys, to get into Iran before they leave office. congress would never approve it, so you need a false flag. bigtime....
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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2008, 08:34:59 AM »

How about we put HIM out in a boat, don't have to dress him up, he already looks like an ass, and have people attack with enemas!
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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2008, 05:40:30 PM »

How about we put HIM out in a boat, don't have to dress him up, he already looks like an ass, and have people attack with enemas!
Grin LOL
We could just give him the Hot Lead Enema!
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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2008, 01:13:29 PM »

Info...Cheney............Just a tid bit, of his background


When Cheney became eligible for the draft, he was a supporter of the Vietnam War but did not serve in the military. Instead, he applied for and received five draft deferments. In 1989, The Washington Post writer, George C. Wilson, interviewed Cheney as the next Secretary of Defense; when asked about his deferments, Cheney reportedly said, "I had other priorities in the '60s than military service."[13] Cheney testified during his confirmation hearings in 1989 that he received deferments to finish a college career that lasted six years rather than four, owing to sub par academic performance and the need to work to pay for his education. Initially, he was not called up because the Selective Service System was only taking older men. When he became eligible for the draft, he applied for four deferments in sequence. He applied for his fifth exemption on January 19, 1966, when his wife was about 10 weeks pregnant. He was granted 3-A status, the "hardship" exemption, which excluded men with children or dependent parents. In January 1967, Cheney turned 26 and was no longer eligible for the draft.[14]

In 1986, Cheney, along with 145 Republicans and 31 Democrats, voted against a non-binding Congressional resolution calling on the South African government to release Nelson Mandela from prison, after the Democrats defeated proposed amendments that would have required Mandela to renounce violence sponsored by the African National Congress (ANC) and requiring it to oust the communist faction from its leadership; the resolution was defeated. Appearing on CNN, Cheney addressed criticism for this, saying he opposed the resolution because the ANC "at the time was viewed as a terrorist organization and had a number of interests that were fundamentally inimical to the United States."[24]

Cheney's record as CEO was subject to some dispute among Wall Street analysts; a 1998 merger between Halliburton and Dresser Industries attracted the criticism of some Dresser executives for Halliburton's lack of accounting transparency.[44] During Cheney's tenure, Halliburton changed its accounting practices regarding revenue realization of disputed costs on major construction projects.[45] Cheney resigned as CEO of Halliburton on July 25, 2000. As vice president, he argued that this step removed any conflict of interest. Cheney's net worth, estimated to be between $30 million and $100 million, is largely derived from his post at Halliburton, as well as the Cheneys gross income of nearly $8.82 million.[46]
In 1997, along with Donald Rumsfeld, William Kristol and others, Cheney founded the "Project for the New American Century," a neoconservative U.S. think tank whose self-stated goal is to "promote American global leadership."[47] He was also part of the board of advisors of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA) before becoming vice president.[32]
In early 2000, while serving as the CEO of Halliburton, Cheney headed George W. Bush's vice-presidential search committee. On July 25, after reviewing Cheney's findings, Bush surprised some pundits by asking Cheney himself to join the Republican ticket.[10] Halliburton reportedly reached agreement on July 20 to allow Cheney to retire, with a package estimated at $20 million.[48]

While the election was undecided, the Bush-Cheney team was not eligible for public funding to plan a transition to a new administration. So, Cheney opened a privately funded transition office in Washington. This office worked to identify candidates for all important positions in the cabinet.[50] According to Craig Unger, Cheney advocated Donald Rumsfeld for the post of Secretary of Defense to counter the influence of Colin Powell at the State Department, and tried unsuccessfully to have Paul D. Wolfowitz named to replace George Tenet as director of the CIA.[

Since the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States, Cheney has helped shape President Bush's approach to the War on Terrorism. Despite contrary claims from The Pentagon, Cheney continued to assert a connection between Al-Qaeda and Iraq prior to the Iraq War in several public speeches, drawing criticism from some members of the intelligence community and leading Democrats.[55][56][57] He also made numerous public statements regarding Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction, and made repeated personal visits to CIA headquarters, where he questioned mid-level agency analysts on their WMD conclusions.[58]
Following the U.S. invasion of Iraq, Cheney remained steadfast in his support of the war, stating that it would be an "enormous success story"[59] and made many visits to the country. He often criticized war critics, calling them “opportunists” who were peddling “cynical and pernicious falsehoods” to gain political advantage while U.S. soldiers died in Iraq. In response, Senator John Kerry asserted, “It is hard to name a government official with less credibility on Iraq [than Cheney]."[60]

Cheney's former chief legal counsel, David Addington,[63] is currently his chief of staff. John P. Hannah serves as his national security adviser.[64] Until his resignation in 2005, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Jr. served in both roles.[65]

Since 2003, the vice president's staff have opted not to file required reports with the National Archives and Records Administration office charged with assuring that the executive branch protects classified information, nor has it allowed inspection of its record keeping.[70] Cheney refused to release the documents, citing his executive privilege to deny congressional information requests.[71][72] Such media outlets as Time Magazine and CBS News sarcastically questioned whether Cheney had created a "fourth branch of government" that was not subject to any laws.[73]
On April 24, 2007, Representative Dennis Kucinich of Ohio presented articles of impeachment against Cheney, as House Resolution 333.[83][84][85] It was not initially cosponsored, and was immediately referred to the House Judiciary Committee, where no action was taken.[86] The resolution has acquired twenty-four Democratic cosponsors since its introduction, six of whom are members of the House Judiciary Committee.[87][88] After six months without a debate or vote, Kucinich re-introduced identical content as a new resolution, House Resolution 799, on November 6, 2007.[89] This was also referred to the House Judiciary Committee.[90]
Cheney has actively promoted an expansion of the powers of the presidency, saying that the Bush administration’s challenges to the laws which Congress passed after Vietnam and Watergate to contain and oversee the executive branch—the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, the Presidential Records Act, the Freedom of Information Act and the War Powers Resolution—are, in Cheney's words, “a restoration, if you will, of the power and authority of the president.”[98][99]In June 2007, the Washington Post summarized Cheney’s vice presidency in a Pulitzer Prize-winning[100] four-part series, based in part on interviews with former administration officials. The articles characterized Cheney not as a “shadow” president, but as someone who usually has the last words of counsel to the president on policies, which in many cases would reshape the powers of the presidency. When former vice president Dan Quayle suggested to Cheney that the office was largely ceremonial, Cheney reportedly replied, “I have a different understanding with the president.” The articles described Cheney as having a secretive approach to the tools of government, indicated by the use of his own security classification and three man-sized safes in his offices.[101]

The articles described Cheney’s influence on decisions pertaining to detention of suspected terrorists and the legal limits that apply to their questioning, especially what constitutes torture.[102] They characterized Cheney as having the strongest influence within the administration in shaping budget and tax policy in a manner that assures “conservative orthodoxy.”[103] They also highlighted Cheney’s behind-the-scenes influence on the administration’s environmental policy to ease pollution controls for power plants, facilitate the disposal of nuclear waste, open access to federal timber resources, and avoid federal constraints on greenhouse gas emissions, among other issues. The articles characterized his approach to policy formulation as favoring business over the environment.[104]
Cheney has created controversy, mostly from his role in shaping the Bush administration's policies on Iraq and the war on terrorism. In one instance, the vice president was recorded as apparently supporting waterboarding, widely regarded as a form of torture, as an interrogation technique for questioning suspected terrorists.[117] The following day, the White House denied that Cheney was referring to waterboarding or torture.[118]

Since 2003, the vice president's staff have opted not to file required reports with the National Archives and Records Administration office charged with assuring that the executive branch protects classified information, nor has it allowed inspection of its record keeping.[70] Cheney refused to release the documents, citing his executive privilege to deny congressional information requests.[71][72] Such media outlets as Time Magazine and CBS News sarcastically questioned whether Cheney had created a "fourth branch of government" that was not subject to any laws.[73]

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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2008, 12:52:47 AM »

Olbermann: Cheney's provocateur plans to kick off war with Iran
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFdgzPbtF3o
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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2008, 12:54:47 AM »

The original source article is here:

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/31/cheney-proposal-for-iran-war/

Here is AJ's coverage of the bombshell:

Alex Jones - Cheney's plan for false flag attack on US ships
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4v08g0wgqo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTJLOuj3H_4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLUQMfdgKrM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub7GaZEYu-Q&feature=related
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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2008, 01:04:39 AM »

As they continue the Problem, Reaction, Solution chaos attacks on us...

here is a message from an informed public:

"WE WON'T BELIEVE YOU"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrwKBUssUnw
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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2008, 01:30:06 AM »

SEYMOUR HERSH INTERVIEW WITH KEITH OLBERMANN OCT. 01, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCKskNa2dIs&NR=1
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Seymor Hersh, well I'll be damed, there is still a true journalist alive, and with conscience.

Good Man, Seymour, Three cheers. Bless ya heart.!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hard to beleive congress went along with surgical strikes on Irans Guards. I take that back, they f***&&ën well disqust me.

Tit for tat, maby, give Bushy and Cheny something or pay the consequences. Or simply sold out, it must be a crime to enter the political arena if one is of conscience and Constitutional oath...( Not all of them)  about 80%

Good new, yes, there are more on the inside that we are aware off, am I repeating myself, YUP. (I'm not refering to the congress.)

I suggest we send those congresmen and woman who have supported Bush on burial details in the M.E. Yeah, clean the dead, and dig the graves as they explain to the familys of the victims why they allowed it.

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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2008, 05:38:04 PM »


 If it could be proved in a court of law cheney and company should be in prison for conspiracy to commit murder. Would never happen but it should. Impeachment not good enough these people need to GO AWAY
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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2008, 05:48:58 PM »

at least it's getting mainstream coverage...
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« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2008, 10:07:35 PM »

How about we put HIM out in a boat, don't have to dress him up, he already looks like an ass, and have people attack with enemas!
LOL! The image of that in my mind just sent me to the floor.

There must be something to that 888 business.

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« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2008, 08:07:07 AM »



 Madmen and Madwomen run the US government.  Cheney is the chief Madman!
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« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2008, 03:08:11 PM »

Quote taken from....http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/07/military_princeqa_071408w/

Q: Can you do that training better than—clearly, you believe you can do that training better overseas than the United States military?


Erik Prince: I’m not saying we can do it better. I’m saying we can do it differently, that we can put guys that are focused on it for the long term and they can dwell there, you know, in Azerbaijan with the continuity that’s there.

You know the military unit sends a guy, and he’s going to be at that post for a year and he might get to know some of these areas, and then he leaves and he gets assigned to another SEAL team or another SF unit or he’s somewhere off in the staff career.

We can assign guys that will build that local knowledge, the continuity and credibility, so that you get a lot more done in the country than a guy that’s there. There’s a difference between being in a country, for a guy to be in the country for five years or for five people to be there one year at a time. That’s the difference.


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Blackwater training navy SEAL's in Azerbaijan....wait a minute didn't Cheney call for navy SEAL false flag just the other day. Now this war between Russia and Georgia.

Strange but not really.





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« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2008, 05:54:49 PM »

You really have to much time on your hands.
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« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2008, 05:56:17 PM »

You really have to much time on your hands.

You sound worried, Dick.
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