40 DAY WARNING : Sep 2008 Market Crash? PREPARE NOW...

[Sasha]

Is this it?
Is this the beginning of the end?

I don't know, but I'll be you will be able to tune into Mad Money and Cramer will be saying, "Buy, buy, buy!  This is the perfect bull environment."

[Anti_Illuminati]

LMAO people are dumping gold.

Have you checked the price of gold lately?

http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/DG/A8

From $1,000 down to $750. Solid investment.

PS. I've been shorting gold and making money.

[snarky comment]

just saw this interesting article http://www.howestreet.com/articles/index.php?article_id=7461

Bernanke Violates Federal Reserve Act Section 23A

Allowing banks to extend funds to their brokerage affiliates is in violation of Federal Reserve Act Section 23A.

Section 23A of the Federal Reserve Act ( Act ), originally enacted as part of the Banking Act of 1933, is designed to prevent the misuse of a bank's resources through non-arm's-length transactions with its affiliates and to limit the ability of a bank to transfer its federal subsidy to its affiliates.

[Cryptvill]

whats gonna be happening people in upcoming days!!?

is gold good to buy?

whats the outlook for tommorow, etc.?

this shit is huge

[Dig]

whats gonna be happening people in upcoming days!!?

is gold good to buy?

whats the outlook for tommorow, etc.?

this shit is huge

This thread is not for investment advice as NWO already controls most financial markets and they manipulate the price of gold.

This thread shows their end game of the boom/bust cycle.

The whole point of the federal reserve is to create booms and busts so that power can be consolidated.  What we are seeing now is banks either going under or being merged, bought.

They are being consolidated so that there is less of a free market.

They will blame all of this on free market capitalism to make the federal reserve even more powerful, but we have not had free market capitalism for over 90 years and this is just more chaos work of problem, reaction, solution.

The solution that they will propose is one of socialism/communism.

The same solution that killed 40 million in Russia and 60 million in China.

[Cryptvill]

good post man, ive learned a shitload about the economy today from here...

but man, this shit is whack, it just keeps going down.......

[New Whirled Order]

LMAO people are dumping gold.

I'm not dumping mine. LMAO

[JBS]

So what if the stock market crashes. Who cares? Not me, I don't have any stocks. I would love to see it crash right to zero and watch all those people that have bloated the stock market bubble with their profit taking and speculation that only helped to kill the middle class off watch their lives disappear just like I have!  Let the market crash once and for all, lets get it over with, eliminate the banks and bring down wall street for good. Go ahead, make my day!! Crash baby, I can't wait! Stupid jerk americans voted Bush in now they are paying dearly for it. Not that was a lesson for them, now the stupid idiots want Bush 44 McCain. What goes around comes around and the dominoes will keep falling and falling and the sheep along with the rest of us will pay the ultimate price for trading freedom for fascism. Heil McCain! Heil Palin!
Yea, I'm just a little annoyed lately, so move along folks, nothing to see here but insanity.

[thadividedsky]

Welcome to the forum crypt. I suggest you try and pay off all debts first. Im no expert, but I would have some cash on hand, a small amount of gold, a good amount of silver bullion rounds or legal tender such as american silver eagles and canadian maple leafs. More importantly though is storable food. Not just for economic collapse/SHTF situations, but for weather emergencies or blackouts as well. Def water purifying since purified water is healthier regardless of situation. You should be armed. Guns prefered, but some people prefer bows such as I. Now as for "is this the end?" I believe what we are about to witness is the unfolding of the financial system right before our eyes. The big 3 automakers are asking congress for $50 billion to "modernize" their facilities. The airlines are crying for help due to the fuel situation (which is a BS excuse IMO) and a handful of them look to be close to bankruptcy. The economic cancer has spread to the insurance sector through AIG, Im starting to wonder how the insurance sector will react to the economic crisis. Wachovia is on the ropes as is WaMu. As yall know Merill just got bought out by BoA and it's been suggested that morgan stanley look for a buyer due to their losses recently. We also have a retail silver shortage right now with the U.S. mint having halted production of Gold and Silver eagles while gold and silver have been driven down in spot price the last few months. I should note that even though spot price for silver has gone down, it's hard to find anything below $14. Eagles are going for around $18-$25. I've even seen them goin for up to $40 for a 2008 uncirculated. Sorry for the length of the post guys. lol. LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC

[New Whirled Order]

So what if the stock market crashes. Who cares? Not me, I don't have any stocks. I would love to see it crash right to zero and watch all those people that have bloated the stock market bubble with their profit taking and speculation that only helped to kill the middle class off watch their lives disappear just like I have!  Let the market crash once and for all, lets get it over with, eliminate the banks and bring down wall street for good. Go ahead, make my day!! Crash baby, I can't wait! Stupid jerk americans voted Bush in now they are paying dearly for it. Not that was a lesson for them, now the stupid idiots want Bush 44 McCain. What goes around comes around and the dominoes will keep falling and falling and the sheep along with the rest of us will pay the ultimate price for trading freedom for fascism. Heil McCain! Heil Palin!
Yea, I'm just a little annoyed lately, so move along folks, nothing to see here but insanity.

This is waaaaay bigger than Bush my friend.  Bush = puppet for his NWO banker masters.

[thrashbassist]

LMAO people are dumping gold.

Good. That will just drive the price down, giving those of us who know how important tangible assets are the opportunity to buy more.

[JBS]

You guys talk like there will actually be something to spend your gold and silver on. Don't you get it? The stores will be empty, gas station tanks will be empty and the grocery stores will have no food. Even if there was anything, a loaf of bread will be $50 or more, how long will your gold last? You need to get the goods while you still can. When the blackshirts come, your gold will mean nothing.

[Jonathan Oldstyle]

What do you folk plan to do to obviate this imminent depression? As Alex and others suggest, would it be wise to turn (conservatively) a quarter of one's savings to gold and silver, or will those metals rather be debased along with the dollar? Have you considered exchanging your dollars for a relatively stable currency -  Euros, for instance - or is the latter likely to suffer considerably as a result of an American collapse? I have heard several people recommend investing in commodities (e.g. real estate), but to my mind that seems a dodgy bet, as I imagine most will wish to flee the country in the event of a full-scale depression, and seek to avoid any anchoring assets, which in any event are likely to fall prey to federal goons, marauding psychopaths and little ne'er-do-well C.H.U.D. youths presently held at bay by their video game culture. However, I daresay real estate purchased outside of America could prove a profitable venture.

Do you think it prudent to remove all of one's savings from the bank, or is that a bit of a hasty move ? Alternatively, how about converting dollars to Euros or Swiss Francs, and placing one's savings in a Swiss bank account?

Please post your thoughts, and lend any sound advice you can spare.

[New Whirled Order]

You guys talk like there will actually be something to spend your gold and silver on. Don't you get it? The stores will be empty, gas station tanks will be empty and the grocery stores will have no food. Even if there was anything, a loaf of bread will be $50 or more, how long will your gold last? You need to get the goods while you still can. When the blackshirts come, your gold will mean nothing.

We're not there yet....  Actually, we aren't even close.

[Cryptvill]

Welcome to the forum crypt. I suggest you try and pay off all debts first. Im no expert, but I would have some cash on hand, a small amount of gold, a good amount of silver bullion rounds or legal tender such as american silver eagles and canadian maple leafs. More importantly though is storable food. Not just for economic collapse/SHTF situations, but for weather emergencies or blackouts as well. Def water purifying since purified water is healthier regardless of situation. You should be armed. Guns prefered, but some people prefer bows such as I. Now as for "is this the end?" I believe what we are about to witness is the unfolding of the financial system right before our eyes. The big 3 automakers are asking congress for $50 billion to "modernize" their facilities. The airlines are crying for help due to the fuel situation (which is a BS excuse IMO) and a handful of them look to be close to bankruptcy. The economic cancer has spread to the insurance sector through AIG, Im starting to wonder how the insurance sector will react to the economic crisis. Wachovia is on the ropes as is WaMu. As yall know Merill just got bought out by BoA and it's been suggested that morgan stanley look for a buyer due to their losses recently. We also have a retail silver shortage right now with the U.S. mint having halted production of Gold and Silver eagles while gold and silver have been driven down in spot price the last few months. I should note that even though spot price for silver has gone down, it's hard to find anything below $14. Eagles are going for around $18-$25. I've even seen them goin for up to $40 for a 2008 uncirculated. Sorry for the length of the post guys. lol. LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC

appreciate this help here man.

You guys talk like there will actually be something to spend your gold and silver on. Don't you get it? The stores will be empty, gas station tanks will be empty and the grocery stores will have no food. Even if there was anything, a loaf of bread will be $50 or more, how long will your gold last? You need to get the goods while you still can. When the blackshirts come, your gold will mean nothing.

thats what i think would happen

[Aerioch]

This guy on a Google Finance message board ... call it.... and explains why.

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"Crash is in September."

yup

and the negative news that will move the market downward should occur
Sept 15

this organization below.. runs the show

http://www.legatus.org/public/index.asp

the money laundering occurs just prior to the pilgrimage to rome and
the checks are written during the pilgrimage and the checks clear by
September 14 and the negative news leaks out (something along the
lines of "insider trading on a mass scale at a major brokerage) then
they start crossing the "t"s and dotting the "i"s on Sarbanes-Oxley II

SOX II will certainly protect the working class' nest-eggs fur sure!

http://finance.google.com/group/google.finance.983582/browse_thread/thread/aad550b590f931bf

That's is eerie.... read down the thread he continues to post his fairly accurate observations and claims.

[Overgrown]

yeah this was how I was woke up this am. yelling at me... the stock market is crashing, the stock market is crashigg! needless to say I got up. so we watched it fluxuate all morning.

Its coming, probably sooner than we hope.

[rustygunn]

Very interesting.  That guy had it nailed two months out!  I'd say that is worth some research into his theories.  If you are a catholic....you won't like it. 
BTW...he got banned from the forum one week ago.     

[getch36]

I think its the begining of the end........fun to watch though.

[operation_b]

O.M.F.G. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That just led me to this link of the same posters comments:
http://finance.google.com/group/google.finance.983582/browse_thread/thread/a94b770683c1508c

from as far as I can tell war has been covering up coordinated
securities market debasements since the invention of securities
no reason for this one 2B different

This guy is awesome to read!

[pac522]

His website.

http://www.enterprisecorruption.com/

[Jonathan Oldstyle]

bump!

I'd like to hear what you lot are doing to prepare.

[thadividedsky]

Heads up guys, word over on the kitco forum is that CNBC is reporting that AIG needs to raise $75 billion today or file for bankruptcy weds. I hope it's just a rumor. The Hang Seng is down over 1,000, the Nikkei is down over 650 points, FTSE 100 is down over 200 points and as we all know, the dow was down over 500 points. If AIG files for bankruptcy, tremors will be felt around the global economic system. Could this be the beginning of the end of the world financial system? I believe so.

[JBS]

Yea, I know we are not there yet, but I make the same point if and when.

[operation_b]

That was awesome!  More people should read it.  It's like a thriller story…

[Harold]

AIG's credit rating has been cut by Moody's, etc. Washington Mutual's has gone to junk status. There was a relatively huge flight to government bonds yesterday. That makes perfect sense because if the bond markets collapse the elite will become as fiat poor as everyone else.

So what would be their hedge against economic Armageddon... the US dollar becoming worthless? Copper, lead, fuel, food? They might have huge stores of all those but you can bet the farm that the floors of their bunkers are groaning under the strain of precious metals, especially gold.

Centuries ago the Rothschild patriach knew full well that it was the ultimate source of wealth. Portable and easily barterable and recognised by everyone on the planet as valuable.

Yes, buy all the long-life food you can afford while you're still able to but be wise enough to acquire some gold bullion as well. It's ridiculously cheap because they've manipulated it lower through the paper market whilst the physical stuff is becoming more and more scarce.

We've reached this financial crisis due in large part to unregulated derivatives. The elite deliberately caused an unmanageable amount of excess credit with the purpose to reduce all first world countries to sweatshops the like of Indonesia.

[revolt426]

Its not just un-regulated derivatives, its the whole management system of the federal reserve. Greenspan started this mess, and bernanke allowed it to spin out of control. Fractional Reserve Banking is toast, for the 1:20 ratios they love to use at the very least. As far as the whole economy collapsing,  No. I work at a bank, we've actually grown over the past year by 1+ Billion. Private Savings bank in NY, 27 branches. Barely any writeoffs and no subprime investments. What is going to happen is, people are going to run on larger banks and flood the private successful banks, such as the one i work for, with liquidity. This will cause our CD and other interest rates to go down, because of lack of an economy to invest it in....

This is going to unwind, how fast i dont know but not over night. People will gradually lose their jobs and pensions if they work for mismanaged corperations that were essentially seduced by the FED to be reckless with false fake low interest rates. If they had merely allowed us to go into a recession a year ago when all this crap started instead of cutting rates to please wallstreet, we'd probably come out of this in a few years. Now it is clear, they've really f**ked everything up. Someone running the FED as crunched numbers in correctly and accidently crashed the economy too fast too soon..... They wanted a gradual decline so they could ease us into a police state but that's over. They blew it.....

I am in NY and my Bank manager husband works for the Suffolk Police on Long Island. Today, they disolved his state funding and took his patrol car and state provided assistance and gear away. He now has to report to a local precinct, they are trying to merge the sheriffs department with another under one management to cut expenses because NY is also almost bankrupt.

Nassau county property taxes for 2009 up 3.9% announced today by our Executive asshole Suozzi. Many people will lose their homes and retirement funds and have to move in with family. The people that work for the mismanged conglomerates that is. Also people who were tricked into investing in Cooked Books banks and stocks, along with the poor bastards that fell for the SCAM mortgages designed to make them slaves. Not everyone will be screwed as of now, the future depends on how they manage this situation. I am assuming they will mismanage more but, at this point even the media is paying attention to derivatives and the FED's mismanagement. I actually just saw an economist on CNN directly blame Alan Greenspan for this tragedy, along with his low interest rates and un-regulated mortgage encouragements. Even people in the media are beginning to ask, how does wallstreet work and how did this happen. People are no longer going to accept bullshit spin answers, today at the bank many came in very aware of what was occuring. Many mentioned the great depression, then... the ignorant teenagers are in lala land, worrying about what pair of shoes or what have you to purchase.... a shame.

[KingNeil]

OH MY GOD. So he's trying to say this whole collapse is timed to some kind of ritual?

This guy must be some kind of hyper genius (or insider).

[revolt426]

Or CIA, he is suggesting the Vatican is behind the whole ordeal no?... I dont know if its true, but if it is they are infact the top of the pyramid of assholes. More investigation needed for any proof whatsoever, though.

[revolt426]

Does this not remind you of God Father 3?....... Al Pacino at the vatican....confessing his sins... wow

[Triadtropz]

Or CIA, he is suggesting the Vatican is behind the whole ordeal no?... I dont know if its true, but if it is they are infact the top of the pyramid of assholes. More investigation needed for any proof whatsoever, though.

I believe the NWO elites are trying to destroy the USA..the vatican could be leading the european elites?..

[revolt426]

From what i've studies the vatican is the illumists major Religion Control Arm. I disagree with this guys theory that the Vatican is conducting insider trading to the 100th degree via confession of sins. The Vatican is a control mechanism, obviously, the banks are the ones with the power to create money and give or take away its value. But i am still sticking with my theory of McCain being an American Illuminist puppet of david rockfeller and Obama of Lord Rothschild, through his pal George Soros' bank accounts. They appear to be trying to hold the economy together so they can impliment certain things........ you know they had predicted years ago that the nwo would be in place in the late 70's and it never happened.
These power hungry megalomaniacs get power drunk and over and over again destroy their own plans. 9-11 was a MESS of a black bag op. They obviously didn't think the demolition through very well, whomever carried it out. Any idiot that knows the GOV is criminal can look at the WTC collapses and see with their own eyes the building perpetually exploding and ejecting powdered concrete, bones and steel outward. It appears, since Bernanke decided to open Derivitave trading on Sunday to allow Bank of America to eat Meryll Lynch and void their Derivative contracts, they are running around like ants trying to save the base of the economy, while simoultaniouly consolidating.
They cant have it both ways, if the economy collapses completely, even their consolidated firms will collapse unless they do have their NWO.

My view here is, they are going to withdraw from iraq when Obama wins in 09 because further war funding past mid 09 would probably cause world economic collapse, and the U.S. Population will be slaves with the American Dream shattered. If McCain is elected we will have a world war, i am sure.... we know the idiotic neocons have printed so much money tthat the only way to deflate the currency without the country collapsing is either destroying other countries economies, or fundamental change. Not that obama will bring fundamental change at all, more like a communist regime in which you owe your country duty at birth. This is where i 100% disagree with Tarpleys assesssment that Obama is Cheney's 3rd term. It does NOT appear that Obama is in direct line with ISreal, while Cheney most certainly is. This is obviously why bush is arming israel to the teeth with our gold reserves since the dollar is worthless. I think they are predicting an Obama win and setting Isreal up to strike iran if / when they feel they need to.

They wouldn't be so stupid as to cancel elections and declare martial law, simply because there is no conceivable way they can actually simoultainiously supress 50 states of angry citizens that have been robbed of their Republic. No they will try to manipulate the public more, the last thing they want is the whole country awake to visible tyrrany. Their goal was always to ease it in slowly so the "frog wouldn't jump out of the pot" as that guy said.....

My assessment of the situation is, short term will be a graudual decline of the stock market to below 9000 and after 09, they will get Bush and Cheney out of the country when the economy completely tanks and we enter Great Depression #2.

This is further supported by the new articles of "Whitehouse officials to get 6 additional months Secret Service protection after leaving country"... Cheney and gang are gonna loot the country dry and fly out on executive private jets, and retire with Secret Service protecting them for 6 months, while they transition themselves to dissapear from the public. We saw Jenna Bush in Paraquay, which happens to be the 2nd largest natural water reserve in the world. Cheney in dubai.... Rove is amazingly still reporting for FOX and actually calling for both campaigns to stop negative ads..... haahahaa......Rove you INVENTED sleazy ads, you hypocritical traitor.

We are in the fog of an infowar now becuase of recent events. no one knows exactly what will happen but based on the criminals actions we can always predict.

[rustygunn]

I disagree with this guys theory that the Vatican is conducting insider trading to the 100th degree via confession of sins.

I did not read where he said that.....unless I missed it??

Anyway, the guy was dead on.

[revolt426]

I did not read where he said that.....unless I missed it??

Anyway, the guy was dead on.

"the money laundering occurs just prior to the pilgrimage to rome and
the checks are written during the pilgrimage and the checks clear by
September 14 and the negative news leaks out (something along the
lines of "insider trading on a mass scale at a major brokerage) then
they start crossing the "t"s and dotting the "i"s on Sarbanes-Oxley II"

Read the rest of his stuff, he is saying the Vatican is using the corperate CEO's and moles to advise them of insiider trading before it even happens. He is saying the vatican just looted the U.S. and 15th was the initial collapse and the establishment is going to use this to create a new Sarbanes Oxley law

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarbanes-Oxley_Act

This time the act will be a Government Beurocracy designed to prevent anyone from getting ahead , except the hand picked ones they want to move ahead. Designed to keep other illuminists sects from using the U.S. Markets to create power bases maybe.

[rustygunn]

I still do not see anything about "insider trading....via confession of sins".

[revolt426]

I still do not see anything about "insider trading....via confession of sins".

the money laundering occurs just prior to the pilgrimage to rome and
the checks are written during the pilgrimage and the checks clear by
September 14 and the negative news leaks out (something along the
lines of "insider trading on a mass scale at a major brokerage) then
they start crossing the "t"s and dotting the "i"s on Sarbanes-Oxley II"

[Biggs]

that is the thing which gets to me, all those people seeing their pensions disappear before their eyes as the markets plunge, younger people have time to see things right and can make a living by working, but the elderly do not have that choice (mostly) and are utterly reliant on the returns from their pension investments.

[KingNeil]

Guys, new development!!

This guy's account has been banned for violating Google's "Terms of Use"... lol... even MORE Google censorship.

Seriously. http://finance.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=m9IqLBkAAABPDsRbJ-9OZEzG9P-hx6ISZxmRliqr2RdD2gxz5WDITw

[Nailer]

rumor is gas companies will be / have cancelled lines of credit and gas stations will have to pay on delivery.. CASH is King once again as the bank failures have killed the lines of credit.

[revolt426]

Well too late google the info has been leaked you traitors. hah