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Putin Says `War Has Started,' Georgia Claims Invasion (Update2)
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Aug. 8 (Bloomberg) -- Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said ``war has started'' over the breakaway region of South Ossetia - yikes, not good - Biggs as Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili accused its neighbor of a ``well-planned invasion.'' Saakashvili said in a Bloomberg Television interview that his nation of 4.6 million people is ``fighting to secure its borders'' amid a ``full-blown military aggression'' involving thousands of Russian troops. Aerial bombings and wide-spread fighting in and around the region killed an unknown number of civilians and wounded ``scores'' more, Saakashvili said. Putin earlier today told George W. Bush in Beijing that ``volunteers'' were pouring over the border to help defend South Ossetia from Georgian forces, according to Putin spokesman Dmitry Peskov. ``War started today in South Ossetia'' when Georgia attacked Russian peacekeepers in the disputed region, Putin said. The Defense Ministry later said it deployed ``reinforcements.'' The ruble dropped the most against the dollar in 8 1/2 years and Russian stocks tumbled today on concern the conflict will worsen. The U.S., U.K., European Union and NATO, which Georgia is seeking to join, all called on both sides to end hostilities. South Ossetia, which has a population of about 70,000 and is less than half the size of Kosovo, broke away from U.S.-backed Georgia in the early 1990s and now is a de facto independent state with Russian peacekeepers and economic support. NATO Fighting escalated throughout the day, with Russian planes dropping four bombs on the Vaziani military base, which the North Atlantic Treaty Organization uses for training, Georgian Security Council chief Kakha Lomaia said by phone. The base is about 15 kilometers from the Georgian capital. Georgian forces have shot down three Russian planes since the fighting began, Lomaia said. Russia earlier bombed two Georgian towns, Gori and Kareli, he said. Russia's Defense Ministry denied losing aircraft and declined to comment on the bombing report. ``We will not allow the death of our compatriots to go unpunished,'' Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, 42, told state television after the Interfax news service said Russian troops were killed in Georgian shelling of a barracks and checkpoint. ``The guilty will get the punishment they deserve.'' Saakashvili, 40, said Russia amassed troops for months on its northern border before hostilities began. The Russian government earlier denied bombing Gori, Stalin's birthplace, and Kareli, and accused Georgia of ``unleashing a dirty, reckless scheme.'' 'Very Hot' ``There are so many claims and counter-claims that it's impossible to know who started it,'' said James Nixey, manager of the Russia and Eurasia Program at the Royal Institute of International Affairs, a research institute based in London. ``Both sides have been antagonistic and easy to antagonize. It's a cold war that's suddenly gotten very hot.'' Georgia last month increased the size of its military to 37,000 soldiers and today Saakashvili called up reservists and urged the nation to defend ``every meter'' of land. Russia has a standing army of about 1.1 million. Russian television showed tanks heading over the border to South Ossetia from the Russian region of North Ossetia at about 3:30 p.m. Moscow time. Interfax reported at about the same time that Russian warplanes were bombing Georgian targets. `Short and Hot' ``Fighting continues,'' Russian Major General Marat Kulakhmetov, commander of Russia's peacekeeping forces in South Ossetia, said by mobile phone. The peacekeepers have suffered casualties, although it's too early to say how many, he said. Georgia is a key link in a U.S.-backed ``southern energy corridor'' that links the Caspian Sea region with world markets, bypassing Russia, the world's biggest energy producer. Two pipelines pass through the country linking Azerbaijan and Turkey. The BP Plc-led Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline, which has been closed since Aug. 5 due to an explosion in Turkey, runs about 100 kilometers south of the South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali. As ever oil resources and pipelines always seem to be in the mix don't they The most recent violence in the region erupted on Aug. 1, when South Ossetia said Georgian shelling of the regional capital Tskhinvali claimed six lives. Georgia said South Ossetian forces sparked the fighting. ``The conflict might be short and hot, but my sense is that neither party wants a prolonged conflict,'' said Michael Denison, associate fellow at London-based research group Chatham House and a professor of international security at the University of Leeds. Chatham House, aka RIIA, Fabians, aka NWO speaks, so the war is to be short and sharp, in otjher words this is to be aboiut creating he conditions for a further phase some time in the future
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Fox reports US forces left Georgian capital last week. Convient hunh?
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Fox reports US forces left Georgian capital last week. Convient hunh?
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http://www.geotimes.ge/index.php?m=home&newsid=11856MIA - Ossetian Separatists Are Planning to Bomb Positions of Russian Peacekeeping Forces to involve them in Conflict According to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Ossetian separatists are planning to bomb the positions of Russian Peacekeeping Forces with the purpose of involving them in the existing conflict. The Ministry of Internal Affairs releases the mentioned information based on operative information received through intelligence sources.
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So to recap... - Russia is pissed about U.S. attempts to deploy a missile shield in the area. - The U.S. has been training with Georgian troops within the last week. - The U.S. is going "Door to Door" spreading Democracy in the region. - Russia managed to amass 150 tanks, and the supporting troops needed within one days driving distance. - Some lame excuse was found to launch a full-scale surprise assault on a densely populated area. Now the Georgian President is asking for the Americans "To come help defend Democracy"........ All this in the area just north of Iran. 
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« Reply #91 on: August 08, 2008, 08:10:14 AM » |
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The Russian president's envoy in South Ossetia Dmitry Medoyev warned that Tbilisi is planning a “policy of ethnic cleansing in South Ossetia.” Speaking at a press conference in Moscow, he said: “They want to cleanse South Ossetia of [ethnic] Ossetians, and this is what the Georgian armed forces are doing now”. Georgia has announced a three hour moratorium on fighting so a humanitarian corridor can be opened up. The move follows a request from the Red Cross to deliver supplies to civilians in the conflict zone. Refugees have been fleeing the region since fighting began early on Friday, Press Secretary Constantin Poltoranin told Interfax. Russia's Federal Migration Service says it’s ready to recieve refugees from the hostilities. http://www.russiatoday.ru/news/news/28668
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Georgia: Russia has invaded and we are under attackhttp://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/georgia-russia-has-invaded-and-we-are-under-attack-13934899.htmlVladimir Putin says the war has startedFriday, 8 August 2008 A convoy of Russian tanks and troops is reportedly moving toward South Ossetia's capital as Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin declared that the war has started. Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov said: "War started today in South Ossetia when Georgia attacked Russian peacekeepers in the disputed region." Earlier an official in Georgia's National Security Council said Russia invaded Georgia. Kakha Lamaia said: "If it's not war, then we are very close to it. The Russians have invaded Georgia and we are under attack." Georgian President Mikhail Saakasvili told CNN: "Russia is fighting a war with us in our own territory." "This is a clear intrusion on another country's territory. We have Russian tanks on our territory, jets on our territory in broad daylight," Saakashvili accused its neighbor of a "well-planned invasion" and called on reservists to sign up for duty. He said "150 Russian tanks, armoured personnel carriers and other vehicles" have entered South Ossetia. The Georgian government said it will try to protect Russian peacekeepers who were already in the disputed region. However Russia claims that 10 of the peacekeepers have been killed. Reports from Georgia claim Russian jets have attacked an airport near Tblisi. Nato, the US and the EU are calling for an immediate end to hostilities. Georgia claims to have shot down two Russian war planes as the two countries fight for control of the breakaway province of South Ossetia. Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has vowed to protect Russian citizens in the region. Medvedev said: "In accordance with the constitution and the federal law, I, as president of Russia, am obliged to protect the lives and dignity of Russian citizens wherever they are located," Mr Medvedev said in televised remarks. "We won't allow the death of our compatriots to go unpunished." Georgian troops are currently observing a three-hour ceasefire to let civilians leave the besieged capital, Tskhinvali. Mikheil Saakashvili, the Georgian president, said most of South Ossetia had been "liberated" in an overnight offensive. "Most of South Ossetia's territory is liberated and is controlled by Georgia," Saakashvili said in televised comments today. "Russian flights are ongoing in the centre of Tskhinvali (the South Ossetian capital)... I demand Russia stop bombardment of peaceful Georgian cities."
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Fierce fighting is going on between Pakistani troops and pro-Taleban militants near the Afghan border. Witnesses say bodies of soldiers and militants are lying on the streets of Loi Sam. Neither side has been able to recover them due to the heavy fighting going on. Helicopter gunships and artillery pieces positioned in a paramilitary camp in Khar, the headquarters of Bajaur, are continuing to pound militant positions around Loi Sam Pakistan is under growing U.S. pressure to crack down on militants in its tribal areas, from where they launch attacks on government and NATO forces in neighboring Afghanistan. Bajur is also considered a possible hiding place for al-Qaida leaders Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahri. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7548744.stmwar in Russia starts along with it. September 10 date for massive explosion blue beam project set. Are you ready?
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« Reply #94 on: August 08, 2008, 08:15:55 AM » |
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Georgian army moves to retake South Ossetia, Russia sends troops
August 08, 2008 09:48 EDT
TBILISI, Georgia (AP) -- Georgia has launched a major military offensive aimed at regaining control of the breakway province of South Ossetia -- a move that's prompting a military response from Russia.
South Ossetia won de-facto independence in a war that ended in 1992. Russia's Defense Ministry has pledged to protect South Ossetians, most of whom have Russian citizenship, and Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has warned that the Georgian attack will draw retaliation.
Russia's military says 10 of its peacekeepers have been killed and 30 wounded. The Defense Ministry says it has sent reinforcements in to bolster its peacekeepers and Russian state television reports a convoy of tanks have already crossed the border, headed toward the provincial capital.
The Georgian Interior Ministry says its forces have declared a three-hour ceasefire to allow civilians to leave the city. Georgia's president is accusing Russia of bombing its territory, and a Cabinet minister says Georgian forces shot down four Russian combat planes over Georgian territory.
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TBLISI, Georgia (CNN) -- Georgia's president said Friday that his country is under attack by Russian tanks and warplanes, and he accused Russia of targeting civilians as tensions over the breakaway Georgian region of South Ossetia appeared to boil over into full-blown conflict. Russia's Channel 1 shows heavy tanks purported to be on their way to South Ossetia. 1 of 2 "All day today, they've been bombing Georgia from numerous warplanes and specifically targeting (the) civilian population, and we have scores of wounded and dead among (the) civilian population all around the country," President Mikhail Saakashvili told CNN in an exclusive interview. "This is the worst nightmare one can encounter," he said. Asked whether Georgia and Russia were now at war, he said, "My country is in self-defense against Russian aggression. Russian troops invaded Georgia." Watch the interview with Saakashvili http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/08/08/georgia.ossetia/index.html
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Tensions spiral as Georgia launches attackhttp://www.theage.com.au/world/tensions-spiral-as-georgia-launches-attack-20080808-3scl.html?page=-1Adrian Blomfield, Moscow August 9, 2008 RUSSIAN warplanes bombed Georgian targets yesterday, the Tbilisi Government said, after Georgian forces surrounded and shelled the capital of the breakaway province of South Ossetia. Amid rising tensions, reports said Russian forces on peacekeeping duty in South Ossetia had been killed and Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin warned his country would retaliate against Georgia's offensive in the Caucasus trouble spot. At least 15 civilians were killed in the fighting and Georgian shelling and air raids on the separatist capital, Tskhinvali. Georgia said yesterday it would observe a three-hour ceasefire to allow civilians to leave Tskhinvali. The European Union and the Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe have led international calls for a ceasefire in South Ossetia, which broke away from Tbilisi's control in the early 1990s. Georgia accuses Russia of seeking to take over South Ossetia. A witness saw Georgian forces fire more than a dozen missiles towards South Ossetia from a position inside Georgia and witnessed helicopters and hundreds of soldiers in trucks moving towards the region. A large plume of smoke rose from Tskhinvali soon after dawn and explosions continued regularly, as they had all night. The Russian military said a barracks for Russian peacekeepers in Tskhinvali was hit and some troops were killed. Three Russian Sukhoi-24 aircraft entered Georgian air space, a Georgian Interior Ministry spokesman, Shota Utiashvili, said. "One of them dropped two bombs close to the police station in Kareli," he said, referring to a Georgian village near South Ossetia. There were also reports of a Russian air raid near Gori, the main Georgian city near South Ossetia. In announcing that Georgia's operation had succeeded, President Mikheil Saakashvili said Russian bombers had attacked "peaceful" Georgian cities. "Most of South Ossetia's territory is liberated and is controlled by Georgia," Mr Saakashvili said on TV. He said Russia was conducting flights over Tskhinvali and added: "I demand Russia stop bombardment of peaceful Georgian cities." But Mr Putin, the former Russian president who is now its influential prime minister, condemned Georgia's "aggressive actions" and said his country would have to retaliate. "It is regrettable that on the day before the opening of the Olympic Games, the Georgian authorities have undertaken aggressive actions in South Ossetia," he said in Beijing. "They have, in effect, begun hostilities using tanks and artillery. It is sad, but this will provoke retaliatory measures." Mr Putin said he had discussed the crisis with Chinese leaders and with US President George Bush. "Everybody agrees - nobody wants to see a war." A Kremlin spokesman said President Dmitry Medvedev was considering "emergency measures" in response to the Georgian attack. Russia called a special meeting of the UN Security Council which expressed concern over the fighting but could not agree on a Russian statement urging the warring sides to end the violence and return to the negotiating table. The US called on both sides to stop the fighting. "We're urging Moscow to press South Ossetia's de facto leaders to stop firing. We're urging Tbilisi to maintain restraint," Gonzalo Gallegos, a US State Department spokesman, told reporters. South Ossetian leader Eduard Kokoity said earlier that his forces still controlled Tskhinvali. In recent months, Moscow and Tbilisi have sparred repeatedly over South Ossetia and another breakaway Georgian region, Abkhazia. Georgia's pro-Western Government accuses Moscow of seeking to annex the two regions and derail its efforts to join the NATO alliance. AFP
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« Reply #97 on: August 08, 2008, 08:22:09 AM » |
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This has been going on awhile now, wheres the statement from the white house?
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the white house has said; the 2 partys can work this out peacefully..and to exercise restraint..supposedly bush and putin have spoken about it at the olympics.
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The white house has a made a statement, urging for a peaceful solution.
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This is REALLLY BAD, because Georgia has troops in Iraq, they are a allie to America, I can see this breaking tensions even more...
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This is REALLLY BAD, because Georgia has troops in Iraq, they are a allie to America, I can see this breaking tensions even more...
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The US isnt going to help them..i'm sure bush and putin have already given the secret NWO handshake on it..they are all in on it together.
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dont be so sure, we arent buddies with Russia
bush and putin have a special bond, the average american doesnt understand they are globalist partners....we have a democratic soveriegn nation under attack by it's neighbor..and you watch.. washington and bush will do nothing.
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Its always about oil. Analysis: energy pipeline that supplies West threatened by war Georgia conflict The conflict that has erupted in the Caucasus has set alarm bells ringing because of Georgia's pivotal role in the global energy market. Georgia has no significant oil or gas reserves of its own but it is a key transit point for oil from the Caspian and central Asia destined for Europe and the US. Crucially, it is the only practical route from this increasingly important producer region that avoids both Russia and Iran. The 1,770km (1,100 miles) Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline, which entered service only last year, pumps up to 1 million barrels of oil per day from Baku in Azerbaijan to Yumurtalik, Turkey, where it is loaded on to supertankers for delivery to Europe and the US. Around 249km of the route passes through Georgia, with parts running only 55km from South Ossetia. The first major attack on the pipeline took place only last week - not in Georgia but in Turkey where part of it was destroyed by PKK separatist rebels. Output from the pipeline, which is 30 per cent owned by BP and carries more than 1 per cent of the world's supply, is likely to be on hold for several weeks while the fire is extinguished and the damage repaired. But the threat of another attack by separatists in Georgia itself is very real. Only a few days before the Turkish explosion, Georgian separatists threatened to sabotage the pipeline if hostilities continued. The latest eruption of violence could easily spur fresh attacks. The BTC pipeline, which is buried throughout most of its length to make sabotage more difficult, was a politically highly charged project. It was firmly opposed by Russia, which views the Caucasus as its own sphere of influence and wants central Asian oil to be exported via its own territory. Russia also backs the South Ossetian and Abkhazian separatists in Georgia and relations between Moscow and Tbilisi have curdled into outright hostility in recent months. The BTC pipeline, which cost $3 billion to build, is a key plank of US foreign policy because it reduces Western reliance on oil from both the Middle East and Russia. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4484849.ece
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« Reply #116 on: August 08, 2008, 09:00:32 AM » |
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Russia Confirms its Aircraft Intruded into Georgia Aircraft of the Russian air force conducted a brief flight over South Ossetia on July 8, the Russian Foreign Ministry confirmed on Thursday. It said the maneuver aimed “to cool hot heads in Tbilisi.” This is the first time in recent years that Russia has confirmed such an intrusion into Georgian airspace. The Georgian Ministry of Defense said on July 9 that four aircraft intruded into Georgian airspace over South Ossetia from the Russian Federation in the evening on July 8. Two aircraft entered Georgian airspace at about 8:11pm and nine minutes later two others followed, the Georgian Air Force said. Russia, which made no comment about the allegation on July 9, broke its silence on July 10, saying it had sent aircraft in order to help defuse rising tensions in South Ossetia following the detention of four Georgian soldiers by the South Ossetian side. “On July 8 the situation in the South Ossetian conflict zone significantly escalated,” the Russian Foreign Ministry said in its statement. “Information has been received, including from the command of the [Russian] peacekeeping force about a possible incursion by Georgian forces under the pretext of releasing four [Georgian] servicemen, who were detained by the South Ossetian law enforcement agencies.” “There was an urgent need to undertake tangible measures in order to prevent bloodshed,” it continued. “In order to clarify the situation, jets of the Russian Air Force conducted a brief flight over South Ossetian territory. As further developments have shown, this move cooled hot heads in Tbilisi and helped to prevent a forceful development of the scenario, which was more than real.” The Russian Foreign Ministry did not specify the number of aircraft sent to Georgia. The Georgian Air Defense said its radar had picked up the four Russian aircraft 80 kilometers deep inside the Russian Federation and had tracked them crossing the Georgian border over the Roki Tunnel (linking South Ossetia with Russia). The radar, according to the Georgian Air Force, shows the aircraft remaining in Georgian airspace for about forty minutes, circling around an area north of Tskhinvali, the capital of breakaway South Ossetia, and then flying back to the Russian Federation. Four Georgian soldiers were arrested by the South Ossetian side overnight on July 7. After their release on July 8, Mamuka Kurashvili, a Georgian MoD official in charge of overseeing peacekeeping operations in the conflict zones, said that Georgian forces had been in combat readiness to carry out an operation if the South Ossetian side had refused to free the four servicemen. Earlier on the same day, President Saakashvili ordered the Interior Ministry to secure the release of the four Georgians. President Saakashvili said at a joint news conference with U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in Tbilisi earlier on July 10 that Russian aircraft had flown “close to the capital,” which was “a worrisome development.” http://www.civil.ge/eng/article.php?id=18748
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« Reply #118 on: August 08, 2008, 09:04:40 AM » |
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Am i the only person who cant get the civil.ge links to open? None of them will open for me. World War IV anyone? umm...yeah looks that way 
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 "Do not let your hatred of a people incite you to aggression." Qur'an 5:2 At the heart of that Western freedom and democracy is the belief that the individual man, the child of God, is the touchstone of value..." -RFK
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« Reply #119 on: August 08, 2008, 09:04:46 AM » |
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my car broke down today, hope i dont have to escape anytime soon.
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Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition.
Thomas Jefferson - 1787
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