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Author Topic: GEORGIA: FIGHTING RAGES IN S. OSSETIA, RUSSIAN TANKS HEAD FOR BATTLE  (Read 184846 times)
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« Reply #560 on: August 09, 2008, 12:41:39 PM »

I think I understand what Georgia's doing. Perhaps they wanted Russia to attack, only to have the entire planet shout "territorial integrity". Let's face it, what can Russia do without risking angering the whole planet? Georgia just has to sit this out, it's not like Russia is going to invade the rest of Georgia.

Georgia is DoD backed which is nwo. Georgia is the aggressor, they are killing innocent citizens.
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« Reply #561 on: August 09, 2008, 12:42:48 PM »

As always ...

WAR = ELITES vs THE PEOPLE
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« Reply #562 on: August 09, 2008, 12:45:10 PM »

As always ...

WAR = ELITES vs THE PEOPLE

Elite agenda=divided people
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« Reply #563 on: August 09, 2008, 12:48:07 PM »

That Eduard guy said on BBC news that Georgia has no way of getting it's battalion back from Iraq.
Who will help? I'll give you three guesses....
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« Reply #564 on: August 09, 2008, 12:51:16 PM »

That Eduard guy said on BBC news that Georgia has no way of getting it's battalion back from Iraq.
Who will help? I'll give you three guesses....

1. Ukraine
2. France
3. Israel
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« Reply #565 on: August 09, 2008, 12:52:31 PM »

1. Ukraine
2. France
3. Israel

The sparks will really start to fly if the US gets involved. If that happens, I'll start packing my bags
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« Reply #566 on: August 09, 2008, 12:54:16 PM »

1. Ukraine
2. France
3. Israel
Haha, you wish.
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« Reply #567 on: August 09, 2008, 12:54:25 PM »

That Eduard guy said on BBC news that Georgia has no way of getting it's battalion back from Iraq.
Who will help? I'll give you three guesses....

1.NATO
2.BlackWater
3.Marines
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« Reply #568 on: August 09, 2008, 12:57:03 PM »

Nobody is going to help, if Russia feels threatened they will nuke. You can talk tough all you want about nuclear war, but when it comes down to it you got to have some big freaking cherries to get down that way.
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« Reply #569 on: August 09, 2008, 01:04:55 PM »

Nobody is going to help, if Russia feels threatened they will nuke. You can talk tough all you want about nuclear war, but when it comes down to it you got to have some big freaking cherries to get down that way.

Feel threatened enough to nuke whom?
nobody is going to nuke anybody else.

David Rothscum was right. Georgia cannot lose in this war.
All they can do is gain territory. You'll see if shit really hits the fan than cease fire talks will be reached quickly.
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« Reply #570 on: August 09, 2008, 01:07:42 PM »

Anyone else listening to GCN right now? "That's one of the reasons the doctor eh.. the dollar is starting to fall right now." Bit of a Freudian slip right there. Anyway sorry for going of topic.

Listening to Tarpley now--he's all over it.

Interesting article:



http://www.kavkazcenter.com/eng/content/2008/06/13/9798.shtml

Zbigniew Brzezinski: the Empire’s Adviser
The outrageous strategy to destroy Russia
by Arthur Lepic*

Zbigniew Brzezinski, President Jimmy Carter’s former adviser, embodies the continuity of U.S. foreign policy whether it is democratic or republican. A great admirer of Henry Kissinger, Brzezinski has always defended, praised and shown an absolute respect for the master’s two diplomacy concepts: the balance of the powers theorized by Metternich and George Kennan’s containment doctrine. Zbigniew Brzezinski recommends how Russia should be militarily weakened and intimidated. He is convinced that the best way to achieve it is by destabilizing its border regions, a political strategy that arouse the interest of former presidential candidate John Kerry’s team who recruited his son Mark Brzezinski as its foreign policy adviser.
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« Reply #571 on: August 09, 2008, 01:08:40 PM »

Imagine, NATO flies the Georgian forces home, only one plane has to crash...
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« Reply #572 on: August 09, 2008, 01:12:04 PM »

Cheers for the tip Protean. Listening now.
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« Reply #573 on: August 09, 2008, 01:16:11 PM »

Imagine, NATO flies the Georgian forces home, only one plane has to crash...

Another play right out of the Iraq manual.

Remember the confirmed false flag op that involved a American U2 spy plane painted in U.N. colors and markings?
Then to be flown directly into know Iraqi anti-aircraft batteries?

This was to trick Saddam into allowing the U.S. to pop open Operation Whoopa$$!
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« Reply #574 on: August 09, 2008, 01:23:12 PM »

Cheers for the tip Protean. Listening now.

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« Reply #575 on: August 09, 2008, 01:28:36 PM »


Once again the United States/Israel has trained, supplied, and are now supporting the Criminal Party.  We spent years training them, and then only days after our "Independent Contractors" left..They(Georgians) decide to launch a surprise attack .."to fulfill his longtime pledge to wrest back control of South Ossetia."  

It isn't by chance that this key area to the oil pipelines is the focus of attention now.  Start adding up the facts.
They all point to Georgia being used by George-and-Company.
Exactly,This is a fight for control over the Trans-Caucus pipeline,Russia vs. the US-NWO client state Georgia.Watch The Russian air strikes closely,y'all Im willing to bet alot of the major targets have connections to the shipping of natural gas and oil.
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« Reply #576 on: August 09, 2008, 01:30:08 PM »

Georgia says may pull out of Beijing Games

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080809/ts_nm/olympics_dc_101

By Sean Maguire Sat Aug 9, 11:27 AM ET

Excerpts from article:
BEIJING (Reuters) - Georgia may pull its 35-strong Olympic team out of the Beijing Games because of Russian military attacks on its territory, the country's National Olympic Committee told Reuters on Saturday.
"We're talking about it now. It will be the decision of the president of the country (Mikheil Saakashvili)," spokesman Giorgi Tchanishvili said in the Chinese capital.
Russian forces have widened an offensive against Georgia to force Tbilisi's troops out of the breakaway Caucasus region of South Ossetia, whose inhabitants are loyal to Moscow.
Russian armor and troops have poured across the border and its planes have hit bombed targets far from the combat zone in what U.S. President George W. Bush called a dangerous escalation.
Georgia's parliament has declared a state of war, leaving the country's athletes anxious and uncertain. Its Olympic team urged the international community to help end the violence.
Calls by the International Olympic Committee for the Olympic truce to be honored have gone unheard, in a reminder of the limits of sport's ability to bring nations into harmony.
Bush, in Beijing to cheer on U.S. athletes, broke away from spectating to call on Russia to end its bombing of Georgia.

CLOUDED BACKDROP
The Georgia conflict has knocked the Olympics down page, dimming some of China's glory. The vast Asian nation's hopes for a trouble-free games were upended again on Saturday by the daylight murder of the relative of a U.S. volleyball coach.
A 47-year-old Chinese man stabbed two American relatives of the coach and a Chinese tour guide at a popular tourist site, leaving one man dead, Beijing police said.
The assailant then jumped to his death from high up the Drum Tower, a 700-year-old 45-metre (yard) high monument once used to sound time for the Chinese capital's residents.
Attacks on foreigners in Beijing are rare. Olympic organizers have deployed a 100,000-strong security force to protect the 10,500 athletes and thousands of spectators, citing the threat of terrorism but sparking criticism they were blocking protests.


“Everything is going as planned. Nothing to worry about. Hey, have you read “My Pet Goat” Yet?”

Bush gives pep talks to US Olympians in Beijing
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iZg-HwAM2Kt14M4ZEW_FoAlckFngD92E4TVG0
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« Reply #577 on: August 09, 2008, 01:30:18 PM »

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Quote from: gabba2k7 on August 07, 2008, 08:09:33 AM
new war, USA, Israel - selling weapon & equip -> getting money. nothing strange. there are will not be peace talks to solve problem . washinghton has already  decided that georgia must attack osetia.

Easy to prove.

Check out the Anti-Aircraft systems being used to bring down Russian planes.
Check out the brand new camo styles the Georgians are using.
Trace the weapons, and ammo sales, which might be a little more complicated.

Anti-aircraft systems are linked to U.S. contracters, the Camo design is exactly the same as United States save the colors (modified to another theater outside the desert).  And the very fact that it is well known that both U.S. and Israeli contractors have/are training Georgian forces as we speak.

How is that for at least a start?


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« Reply #578 on: August 09, 2008, 01:31:03 PM »

Listening to Tarpley now--he's all over it.

Interesting article:



http://www.kavkazcenter.com/eng/content/2008/06/13/9798.shtml

Zbigniew Brzezinski: the Empire’s Adviser
The outrageous strategy to destroy Russia
by Arthur Lepic*

Zbigniew Brzezinski, President Jimmy Carter’s former adviser, embodies the continuity of U.S. foreign policy whether it is democratic or republican. A great admirer of Henry Kissinger, Brzezinski has always defended, praised and shown an absolute respect for the master’s two diplomacy concepts: the balance of the powers theorized by Metternich and George Kennan’s containment doctrine. Zbigniew Brzezinski recommends how Russia should be militarily weakened and intimidated. He is convinced that the best way to achieve it is by destabilizing its border regions, a political strategy that arouse the interest of former presidential candidate John Kerry’s team who recruited his son Mark Brzezinski as its foreign policy adviser.


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« Reply #579 on: August 09, 2008, 01:35:10 PM »

Shocked

I gotta pay closer attention. I never remember him saying this


This article sums up Tarpley's view nicely:

Historical Changes In False Flag Terrorism
What we need to know for 2008-2009


http://www.rense.com/general82/ff.htm
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« Reply #580 on: August 09, 2008, 01:47:47 PM »

U.S. Contractor's training and equipping Georgians since 2002...



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That’s the real reason to pay attention here. Since 2002, the U.S. military has been providing Georgia with a serious amount of military assistance, beginning with the Georgia Train and Equip Program in 2002. I first visited Georgia’s Krtsanisi training range in fall of 2002, when the Georgian military was still little more of a militia, with some of the troops wearing sneakers and surplus Soviet uniforms. The U.S. trainers carried sidearms – mostly, as I was told later, to deal with the threat of wild dogs roaming the training ground.

When I returned to Krtsanisi in early 2006, the place had been transformed into a model base. It even had a sparkling new KBR-style dining facility. The Georgian troops were smartly decked out in U.S.-style uniforms; they were preparing for a troop rotation in Iraq.


Officially, SSOP was supposed to prepare Georgians for service in Iraq. But Georgian trainees I spoke to in 2006 at the Krtsanisi training range saw things a bit differently. A female sergeant told me: “This training is incredibly important for us, because we want to take back Georgia’s lost territories.”
http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/08/the-new-war-in.html

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Israel Freezes Out Georgia on Arms
By Sharon Weinberger EmailAugust 05, 2008
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 Crazy Ivans, Drones, Sabra Tech, Sabras 

Hermes450 Georgia, which has has been locked in a drone war with the Russia over the breakaway region of Abkhazia, is looking a crucial supplier. Israel, which reportedly sold Georgia drones, is ceding to Russian pressure to stop further arms sales. "The officials said the freeze was partially intended to give Israel leverage with Moscow in its attempts to persuade Russia not to ship arms and equipment to Iran," the Associated Press reports. "They spoke on condition of anonymity as Israel does not officially publish details of its arms sales."

Earlier this year, Georgia accused Russia of shooting down at least two of its drones (reportedly, the Israeli-made Hermes 450); a claim Russia vociferously denies. The Russians, in turn, have accused Georgia of embarking on a military spending spree.
http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/08/israel-freezes.html#previouspost



Proof that U.S. and Israel have prepped & profited from Russia vs. Georgia.
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« Reply #581 on: August 09, 2008, 01:53:32 PM »

Check out the Georgo-NAZI crowd suppression ...Videos on both links

http://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/11/georgia-police-.html#previouspost

http://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/11/acoustic-weapon.html

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Acoustic Weapon Hits Georgian Protesters (Updated)
By Sharon Weinberger EmailNovember 14, 2007 | 9:46:07 AMCategories: Lasers and Ray Guns, Less-lethal 

As regular readers of the DANGER ROOM know, we receive many letters from people who want us to investigate reports of exotic new weaponry being used on civilians. Such claims usually emerge because the writer has read about some new pain ray on DANGER ROOM, and believes it is responsible for something they've experienced. In many cases, the writer is simply mistaken.

That brings me to today. I received a note half in English, half in Russian, pointing me to videos on You Tube, wanting to know if it's possible that the Active Denial System, the Pentagon's nonlethal heat beam, could have been used on protesters during recent opposition demonstrations in Tbilisi, Georgia.

"Yeahhhhhh, right," I thought to myself. The U.S. military hasn't even managed to get the Active Denial System deployed to Iraq, so it's not very likely that it's being used in Georgia.

Then I watched the video. Shortly after minute three, I see it: No, it's not the Active Denial System, but it is another nonlethal weapon. And it looks a heck of a lot like the Long Range Acoustic Device (or at least a knockoff), a device that emits a focused sound beam to drive people back.

Who profits from those multi-million dollar sales?
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« Reply #582 on: August 09, 2008, 02:13:54 PM »

Georgia acts to cool investor fears as bombs fall
http://www.forbes.com/reuters/feeds/reuters/2008/08/09/2008-08-09T194759Z_01_L9376948_RTRIDST_0_GEORGIA-OSSETIA-INVESTORS.html


08.09.08, 3:47 PM ET


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By Simon Shuster and Chris Baldwin

MOSCOW, Aug 9 (Reuters) - Georgia, whose credit ratings were cut on Friday after military clashes with Russia, was praised on Saturday by foreign investors, who contrasted its efforts to reassure them over the crisis with those of Russia.

Western bankers said that since fighting began in the breakway province of South Ossetia on Thursday, they had received phone calls and emails from Georgian leaders including Prime Minister Lado Gurgenidze.

They said Russia had made no similar effort, despite a plunge in its stock market on Friday which took the index of its most liquid exchange close to 21-month lows. The rouble also fell on foreign exchange markets.

Gurgenidze even held a private conference call with two major western banks at 1645 Moscow time (1245 GMT) on Friday, as towns in South Ossetia were under heavy fire from Georgian artillery.

"His main message was that the stock market is safe and there will be no bond defaults ... He's really great with investors, really great at reassuring us," said one banker who participated, asking not to be named as the call was not meant for public consumption.

The call, first reported on the website of U.S. political journal The Nation, focused on risks surrounding Georgia's only Eurobond, sold in April. The $500 million five-year bond was three times oversubscribed at launch as investors diversified away from the slowing developed world economy.

Participants in the conference call then received several emails from Gurgenidze's office.

"The Prime Minister has held throughout the day calls with investors and rating agencies and remains in touch with the investor community," said one email obtained by Reuters. Its subject line was: "No unusual economic activities or interruptions in Georgia today."

But the public relations blitz could not stop Fitch Ratings and Standard & Poor's downgrading the country, with Fitch saying the situation in South Ossetia had "materially increased downside risks to Georgia's sovereign creditworthiness".

Georgia's 2012 Eurobond dropped five points in price, to close at 90.50 percent of face value bid on Friday, according to Reuters data.

None of the three big ratings agencies has altered Russia's ratings, and Moody's (nyse: MCO - news - people ) Investors Service said the conflict should not change its rating of Russia's sovereign debt.


'BLOODY NEXT ACT'

Analysts neverthless said the conflict was destroying enthusiasm for Russian assets which had looked promising weeks earlier, given high oil prices.

"Today's events and their consequences are further deteriorating investor sentiment towards Russian assets," wrote Commerzbank analyst Michael Ganske in a research note on Friday.

"Last week's attack on Mechel's pricing behaviour by Putin and the lasting TNK-BP (nyse: BP - news - people ) saga found a bloody next act in a screenplay that could be named 'how to destroy the investment story of one of the strongest credits in the emerging markets universe'."

Russia's Prime Minister Vladimir Putin stunned foreign investors last month by attacking the pricing policy of New York-listed Russian coal miner Mechel on live television, hacking its market value in half.

"Russia's not as concerned about western investor interest," the banker who spoke with Gurgenidze said.

"Georgia is very interested in western investment, and the prime minister in particular is very concerned about what investors think. If anything, Russia seems anti- that approach."

Gurgenidze held senior positions at Dutch bank ABN AMRO before going into politics and earned an MBA from Emory University in the United States. Other Georgian leaders are also largely young, western-educated and English-speaking. - For coverage of the impact of the fighting on Georgia's and Russia's financial sectors, click on. (Editing by Catherine Evans)
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« Reply #583 on: August 09, 2008, 02:17:16 PM »

Georgia: In 'state of war' over South Ossetia

By MUSA SADULAYEV – 10 minutes ago

OUTSIDE TSKHINVALI, Georgia (AP) — Russia and Georgia headed toward a wider war Saturday as Russian tanks rumbled into the contested province of South Ossetia and Russian aircraft bombed a Georgian town, escalating a conflict that already has left hundreds dead.

Georgia's Foreign Ministry said the country was "in a state of war" and accused Russia of beginning a "massive military aggression." The Georgian parliament approved a state of martial law, mobilizing reservists and ordering government authorities to work round-the-clock.

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said that Moscow sent troops into South Ossetia to force Georgia into a cease-fire and prevent Georgia from retaking control of its breakaway region. Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said Georgia had effectively lost the right to rule it — an indication Moscow could be preparing to fulfill South Ossetians' wish to be absorbed into Russia.

The risk of the conflict setting off a wider war also increased Saturday when Russian-supported separatists in another breakaway region, Abkhazia, also targeted Georgian troops by launching air and artillery strikes to drive them out.

President Bush called for an end to the Russian bombings and an immediate halt to the violence.

"The attacks are occurring in regions of Georgia far from the zone of conflict in South Ossetia. They mark a dangerous escalation in the crisis," Bush said in a statement to reporters while attending the Olympic Games in Beijing.

Georgia President Mikhail Saakashvili called it an "unprovoked brutal Russian invasion."

"This is about annihilation of a democracy on their borders," Saakashvili told the British Broadcasting Corp. "We on our own cannot fight with Russia. We want immediate cease-fire, immediate cessation of hostilities, separation of Russia and Georgia and international mediation."

Medvedev's office said Saturday evening that Russia had not received the Georgian cease-fire proposal.

Georgia, a U.S. ally whose troops have been trained by American soldiers, launched a major offensive overnight Friday. Heavy rocket and artillery fire pounded the provincial capital, Tskhinvali, leaving much of the city in ruins.

It was the worst outbreak of hostilities since South Ossetia won de facto independence in a war against Georgia that ended in 1992.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov told reporters Saturday in Moscow that some 1,500 people had been killed in South Ossetia since Friday, with the death toll rising. The figures could not be independently confirmed.

But Tskhinvali residents who survived the bombardment by hiding in basements and later fled the city estimated that hundreds of civilians had died. They said bodies were lying everywhere.

Georgia, a country about the size of South Carolina that borders the Black Sea between Turkey and Russia, was ruled by Moscow for most of the two centuries preceding the breakup of the Soviet Union. Today, Russia has approximately 30 times more people than Georgia and 240 times the area.

Both South Ossetia and Abkhazia have run their own affairs without international recognition since splitting from Georgia in the early 1990s and have built up ties with Moscow. Russia has granted its passports to most of their residents.

Putin arrived late Saturday in the Russian city of Vladikavkaz to talk to South Ossetian refugees who have fled the fighting. He said there were at least 34,000 refugees.

"The actions of the Georgian powers in South Ossetia are, of course, a crime — first of all against their own people," Putin said. "The territorial integrity of Georgia has suffered a fatal blow."

Russia also laid much of the responsibility for ending the fighting on Washington, which has trained Georgian troops. Washington, in turned, blamed Russia.

"We have urged an immediate halt to the violence and a stand-down by all troops. We call for an end to the Russian bombings, and a return by the parties to the status quo," Bush said in the statement.

White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe said Bush had spoken with both Medvedev and Saakashvili. But it was unclear what might persuade either side to stop shooting — both claim the other violated a cease-fire declared Thursday.

Alexander Lomaia, secretary of Georgia's Security Council, estimated that Russia sent 2,500 troops into Georgia. The Russian military would not comment on the number of troops. By late Saturday, Russian military commanders claimed they had driven Georgian forces out of Tskhinvali, a claim that Saakashvili denied.

Russia's ambassador to NATO Dmitry Rogozin said "98 percent of Tskhinvali" was in ruins. "Our troops have re-established control over the city," he said.

Smoke rose from the city, and intermittent artillery shelling and sporadic gunfire could still be heard.

Georgian forces knocked out about 40 Russian tanks around Tskhinvali, said Georgia's Deputy Interior Minister Eka Sguladze. "Our units are well-equipped with anti-tank rockets, and they thwarted a Russian tank attack," she told reporters.

Georgia, meanwhile, accused Russia of bombing its air bases and the town of Gori, just outside South Ossetia.

An Associated Press reporter who visited Gori shortly after the Russian airstrikes Saturday saw several apartment buildings in ruins, some still on fire, and scores of dead bodies and bloodied civilians. The elderly, women and children were among the victims.

The Russian warplanes appeared to have been targeting a military base in Gori's outskirts that also was bombed.

The Interior Ministry said Russian warplanes also bombed the Vaziani military base on the outskirts of the Georgian capital of Tbilisi and struck near the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline. The ministry said two other military bases were hit, and that Russian warplanes also bombed the Black Sea port city of Poti, which has a sizable oil shipment facility.

Georgia said it has shot down 10 Russian planes, including four brought down Saturday, according to Lomaia. It also claimed to have captured two Russian pilots, who were shown on Georgian television.

Russian Col. Gen. Anatoly Nogovitsyn, deputy chief of the General Staff, confirmed Saturday that two Russian planes had been shot down, but did not say where or when.

Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister, said Georgia brought the airstrikes upon itself by bombing civilians and Russian peacekeepers. He warned that the small Caucasus country should expect more attacks.

"Whatever side is used to bomb civilians and the positions of peacekeepers, this side is not safe and they should know this," Lavrov said.

Russian military commanders said 15 peacekeepers have been killed and about 150 wounded in South Ossetia, accusing Georgian troops of killing and wounding Russian peacekeepers when they seized Russian checkpoints. The allegations couldn't be independently confirmed.

In Abkhazia, the separatist government said it intended to push Georgian forces out of the Kodori Gorge. The northern part of the gorge is the only area of Abkhazia that has remained under Georgian government control. Lomaia confirmed that Georgian administrative buildings in the Kodori Gorge were bombed, but he blamed the attack on Russia.


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« Reply #584 on: August 09, 2008, 02:41:39 PM »

Check this add out out I just found on a news site...
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« Reply #585 on: August 09, 2008, 02:50:02 PM »

Poland shows solidarity with Georgia
http://www.polskieradio.pl/thenews/news/?id=88891
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The presidents of Poland, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia have issued a joint statement condemning what they see as the naked aggression of Russia against the independent state of Georgia, as hostilities continue in the breakaway state of South Ossetia.

President Lech Kaczynski told TVP public television that Poland had a mission to inform western countries, and the EU in particular, of the nature of the aggression by Moscow.

He underlined that any peacekeepers in the region must be international. “That peacekeeping troops [in South Ossetia] are only from Russia is simply a farce,” he said.

The President said that Poland would offer Georgia any help it asked for. “We are not planning to send any troops there, but anything is possible.”

Meanwhile, around 100 protestors gathered outside the Russian Embassy in Warsaw, Saturday evening, to protest against the “state of war” in the region.

Law and Justice MP Pawel Kowal said he is launching a campaign of solidarity with the Georgian nation and that red and white ribbons - the colours of both the Georgian and Polish flags - should be worn by all politicians, media figures and ordinary members of the public.

“Small gestures can help,” he said. A Day of Solidarity with Georgia is being organised for Monday.

A Polish governmental plane will arrive in Tibilisi on Sunday to take back around 200 Poles working there. Earlier the Foreign Ministry advised Poles to leave the country as the conflict escalated.
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« Reply #586 on: August 09, 2008, 02:54:04 PM »

and what's georgia reasons for killing innocent civilians
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« Reply #587 on: August 09, 2008, 02:58:52 PM »

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« Reply #588 on: August 09, 2008, 02:59:56 PM »

and what's georgia reasons for killing innocent civilians

Martial Law.
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« Reply #589 on: August 09, 2008, 03:02:22 PM »

Martial Law.
it always boils down to that doesn't it Embarrassed
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« Reply #590 on: August 09, 2008, 03:04:02 PM »

http://edition.cnn.com/

CNN Quickvote

Should the international community intervene in the fighting in Georgia?
Yes    86%    11478
No    14%    1832

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« Reply #591 on: August 09, 2008, 03:05:52 PM »

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Should the international community intervene in the fighting in Georgia?
Yes    86%    11478
No    14%    1832

Geez....

so it looks like the people want intervention..wheres the UN and NATO on this?..we know where the US is ,hiding..
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« Reply #592 on: August 09, 2008, 03:08:12 PM »

so it looks like the people want intervention..wheres the UN and NATO on this?..we know where the US is ,hiding..
trying to see if there is any benefits to intervening lol....there not goign to do it for the good of the people
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« Reply #593 on: August 09, 2008, 03:09:36 PM »

Update:

Georgian News reports several raids on 3 villages by the Russian Air Force on the Georgian side of the Khodorski Gorge near Abkhazia.
Abkhazian officials state that they have begun military operations to dislodge Georgian troops which have been stationed in parts Abkhazia.


Azeribaijan has ceased transporting its oil through 2 Georgian ports for the time being. Oil may be rerouted through the pipeline of Baku- Novosibirsk.

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« Reply #594 on: August 09, 2008, 03:09:53 PM »

What if Russia and Iran attack the US ships before they get into position?

Watch this guys video:

Russia Orders Destruction of US Naval Armada

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« Reply #595 on: August 09, 2008, 03:11:21 PM »

Why do so many assume that Russia will protect Iran?
Russia will not fight for Iran.
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« Reply #596 on: August 09, 2008, 03:13:01 PM »

so it looks like the people want intervention..wheres the UN and NATO on this?..we know where the US is ,hiding..

It takes time to organize the setup of rape camps and sex slave rings. The UN will show up when they are good and ready.
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« Reply #597 on: August 09, 2008, 03:16:15 PM »

It takes time to organize the setup of rape camps and sex slave rings. The UN will show up when they are good and ready.

Yeah, the UN will feed on the wake of destruction left by NATO. Opportunity equals profits. Halliburton and KBR will be there soon if not already.
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« Reply #598 on: August 09, 2008, 03:20:30 PM »

Georgian troops driven out of S.Ossetian capital
Two Russian warplanes shot down, Moscow says death toll 1,500 and rising

By Matt Robinson


http://www.sundaytimes.lk/080810/International/sundaytimesinternational.html


GORI, Georgia, Saturday (Reuters) - Russia said it had driven Georgian forces from the capital of South Ossetia today as part of an operation to force Georgia to accept peace in its breakaway region. Russian warplanes widened the offensive outside the immediate conflict zone to include strikes deep inside Georgia on the second day of fighting that threatens international oil and gas pipelines that bypass Russia.

Russian officials said the death toll now stood at 1,500 and 30,000 refugees from South Ossetia had fled to Russia over the past 36 hours. Russia said two of its warplanes had been shot down and 12 of its soldiers had been killed.

Russia's military response to the crisis dramatically intensified a long-running stand-off between Russia and the pro-Western Georgian leadership that has sparked alarm in the West and led to angry exchanges at the United Nations reminiscent of the Cold War.

Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili said he would ask parliament to approve the introduction of martial law. Russia accused the West of contributing to the violence by supplying Georgia with arms.

Ukraine, a former Soviet republic whose pro-Western government now aspires to membership of NATO and the European Union, had encouraged Georgia to carry out “ethnic cleansing” in South Ossetia, the Russian foreign ministry said.

Russia said its forces had taken the South Ossetian capital. “Tactical groups have fully liberated Tskhinvali from the Georgian military and have started pushing Georgian units beyond the zone of peacekeepers' responsibility,” Tass quoted Russian Ground Forces commander Vladimir Boldyrev as saying.

“The town is destroyed. There are many casualties, many wounded,” Russian journalist Zaid Tsarnayev told Reuters by telephone from Tskhinvali. “I was in the hospital yesterday where I saw many civilians wounded. The hospital was later destroyed by a Georgian jet. I don't know whether the wounded were still there.”

Russian jets carried out up to five raids on mostly military targets around the Georgian town of Gori, close to the conflict zone in South Ossetia, a Reuters reporter at the scene said. But he saw at least one bomb hit an apartment, killing five people.

In Gori, a woman knelt in the street and screamed over the body of a dead man as the bombed apartment block burnt nearby. Further down the street a shocked old woman covered in blood stared into the distance and a man knelt by the roadside with his head in his hands.

Russia said the death toll in the two-day conflict had hit 1,500 and was rising, prompting warnings from President Dmitry Medvedev of a humanitarian catastrophe that Moscow was determined to halt by force.
“Our peacekeepeers and reinforcement units are currently running an operation to force the Georgian side to (agree to) peace,” Russian news agencies quoted Medvedev as saying at a meeting with Defence Minister Anatoly Serdyukov.




“They are also responsible for protecting the population. That's what we are doing now,” Medvedev added. Russian troops poured into South Ossetia on Friday, hours after Georgia launched a large-scale offensive aimed at restoring control over the province it lost after a war in the early 1990s.

Russia is the main backer of South Ossetian separatists and the majority of the population, who are ethnically distinct from Georgians, have been given Russian passports.

Tbilisi accuses Russia of launching a war against it. Russia sent fresh reinforcements overnight, which according to Russian news agencies have reached the regional capital Tskhinvali where fierce battles rage. The Russian military said more reinforcements were on their way and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Moscow was not seeking an all-out war with Georgia.

Georgian troops to leave Iraq

KUT, Iraq, Saturday (AFP) - Georgia will withdraw its entire 2,000-strong military contingent from Iraq within the next three days to help battle South Ossetian separatist rebels, a senior Georgian military official said today.

“We are actually in the stage of preparing our departure,” Colonel Bondo Maisuradze, chief of Georgia's military operations in Iraq, told AFP. “We are waiting for the green light from Tbilisi to leave Iraq today or tomorrow.”

The US military has agreed to help with the logistics of the Georgian redeployment, Maisuradze added.
The move came as Georgian and Russian forces were locked in combat over the breakaway Georgian province of South Ossetia.

The departure of the brigade from Georgia -- the third largest contributor to coalition forces in Iraq after the United States and Britain -- will mean some slight changes, the US military said.

“We'll face structural changes, so we'll have to make changes. Fortunately, they are in a stable area of Iraq,” military spokesman Major John Hall said.


A Georgian woman cries next to the body of her son in the town of Gori, 80 km (50 miles) from Tbilisi, August 9, 2008. A Russian warplane dropped a bomb on an apartment block in the Georgian town of Gori on Saturday, killing at least 5 people, a Reuters reporter said. The bomb hit the five-storey building in Gori close to Georgia's embattled breakaway province of South Ossetia when Russian warplanes carried out a raid against military targets around the town. REUTERS/David Mdzinarishvili (GEORGIA)


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« Reply #599 on: August 09, 2008, 03:23:47 PM »

haliburton can start counting their money now
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