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« on: July 31, 2008, 09:40:41 PM »

Canada bus attack leaves man decapitated
Japan Today
Friday 01st August, 07:48 AM JST

PORTAGE LA PRAIRIE, Manitoba —

A man aboard a Greyhound bus traveling across Canada calmly stabbed another man dozens of times and decapitated him, pausing briefly to display the head to horrified passengers before proceeding to disembowel his victim, witnesses said Thursday.

Passengers fled the bus in panic, and police said later their quick evacuation may have kept the killer from turning on others.

A 40-year-old man, who was not identified, was arrested for the murder on the bus, which was traveling overnight Wednesday from Edmonton, Alberta, to Winnipeg, Manitoba, Royal Canadian Mounted Police Sgt Steve Colwell told a news conference.

Colwell said police apprehended the man when he broke a window and tried to escape from the bus by jumping out. Authorities declined to name the victim and provided little details about the stabbing.

Colwell said they didn’t know what prompted the attack and said they had not yet interviewed the man as of mid Thursday afternoon. He did not explain the delay.

Passengers said the attacker did not seem to know the victim, who appeared to be about 19 years old, and that he wore sunglasses throughout the attack although it was the middle of the night.

Passenger Garnet Caton said the victim was sleeping with headphones on before he was stabbed 40 or 50 times by the man sitting next to him.

“We heard this bloodcurdling scream and turned around, and the guy was standing up, stabbing this guy repeatedly, like 40 or 50 times,” Caton said from a hotel in Brandon, Manitoba, where he and other passengers had been taken to rest.

Caton said the bus stopped and the passengers scrambled to disembark while the suspect allegedly began methodically carving up the man’s body.

The attacker severed the man’s head with a large hunting knife and held the head up by the door for others to see.

“When he was attacking him, he was calm ... like he was at the beach,” Caton said. “There was no rage or, or anything. He was just like a robot stabbing the guy.”

Caton said he saw the suspect had the victim on the floor of the bus and “was cutting his head off and pretty much gutting him.”

Caton said that the attacker eventually tried to get off the bus, but that he, the driver and a passing trucker who had stopped to help, threw their weight against the door to prevent the man from leaving. When the attacker appeared to be attempting to start up the bus and drive away, the bus driver went to the rear of the bus and somehow disabled it, Caton said.

Fellow passenger Cody Olmstead said the man “dropped the head and went back and started cutting the body back up.”

Olmstead said the man later taunted police, who had surrounded the bus, and dropped the head in front of them.

He said some of the passengers were watching the movie “Zorro” when the attack took place.

Greyhound spokeswoman Abby Wambaugh said 37 passengers and one driver were on the bus.

The victim had been on the bus since Edmonton. Caton said the attacker boarded the bus around Brandon, Manitoba, about 130 kilometers west of Portage La Prairie, a town in the heart of the Canadian Prairies.

The suspect had been on the bus for about an hour and didn’t even sit near his victim at first.

“He sat in the front at first, everything was normal,” Caton said.

He continued: “We went to the next stop and he got off and had a smoke with another young lady there. When he got on the bus again, he came to the back near where I was sitting. He put his bags in the overhead compartment. He didn’t say a word to anybody. He seemed totally normal. About a half an hour later, we heard this bloodcurdling scream.”

Colwell, the RCMP spokesman, praised the passengers for their behavior.

“It’s not something that happens regularly on a bus,” he said. “You’re sitting there enjoying your trip and then all of a sudden somebody gets stabbed. I imagine it would be pretty traumatic ... the way they acted was extraordinary.”

Colwell added that “they reacted swiftly, calmly in exiting the bus and, as a result, nobody else was injured.”

Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day called it a “horrific” incident, but did not discuss details of the attack, saying he did not want to jeopardize the investigation.

“We want to make sure that the process is followed as aggressively as possible, a full legal process, and the perpetrator is definitely dealt with the full force of the law,” he said.

Day called it bizarre and extremely rare.

“The horrific nature of it is probably one-of-a-kind in Canadian history,” Day said.
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2008, 10:15:03 PM »

All those witnesses to the murder yet no mention of tasering the killer. Did they just calmly walk up to him and ask for the knife? If you throw a chair in an airport you get restrained to death. If you behead and disembowel someone you are just apprehended.

Sounds like a Saskatewan Candidate to me. Ever see The Parallax View?
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2008, 03:50:39 AM »

Sounds like they'll use this as an excuse to start registering and banning knives.

This is straight out of CIA textbooks...
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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2008, 04:36:46 AM »

I got a friend over in Canada who was in Edmonton, that stuff is extreme.



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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2008, 02:05:22 PM »


Man charged over decapitation

By Michel Comte in Ottawa

August 02, 2008 03:21am
Article from: Agence France-Presse

POLICE charged a suspect today with unpremeditated murder in the horrific stabbing, beheading and gutting of a fellow bus passenger returning home from a carnival in Western Canada.
Vince Weiguang Li, 40, of Edmonton faces a charge of second-degree murder, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police said.

The victim was 22 years old, police said. Friends identified him as Tim McLean, a happy-go-lucky young man who was returning home to Winnipeg from a job as a carnival worker in Edmonton.

According to reports, McLean had been listening to music and texting friends and family, his cheek pressed against the window of the bus, when his assailant struck suddenly, stabbing him repeatedly in the chest with a "big Rambo knife".

The other 34 passengers and the driver were jolted by "blood-curdling screams" and fled, bracing the door on their way out to trap the assailant inside the bus, witness Garnet Caton told public broadcaster CBC.

"He must have stabbed him 50 times or 60 times," said Caton.

The Legend of Zorro had been playing on tiny television screens on the bus as dusk approached and passengers had begun to doze off.

The victim's father told CBC he had received a text message from his son as the bus was leaving Brandon for the last leg of his 600km journey, asking if he could stay a night.

Tim McLean Senior replied, of course, he could come home.

The suspect, described as a large man wearing sunglasses, had been on the bus for only an hour and did not sit near McLean at first, said Caton.

During a stop, the suspect smoked a cigarette and then moved to the back of the bus to find an empty seat next to McLean, stowing his bags in an overhead bin, he said.

Half an hour later, he struck.

The bus driver, hearing screams, pulled to the side of the road and opened the door.

Passengers scrambled over one another, according to witnesses cited by the Globe and Mail newspaper. An elderly woman was knocked to the floor. A mother seated at the rear threw her toddler several rows forward to get the child away from danger.

When Caton and two others returned to check on the victim, he said they saw the attacker "cutting the guy's head off and gutting him".

"While we were watching ... he calmly walked up to the front (of the bus) with the head in his hand and the knife and just calmly stared at us and dropped the head right in front of us."

"There was no rage in him and he wasn't swearing or cursing or anything, it was just like he was a robot or something."

Moments later, police surrounded the bus and arrested the man after a nearly three-hour standoff, an official said. "He was taunting police with the head in his hand out the window," said Caton.

The suspect eventually jumped out of a broken window of the bus parked on the side of the desolate highway, and was subdued by police, RCMP Sergeant Steve Colwell told a press conference.

"At this time, I'm not aware of what may have provoked this attack," Colwell said, refusing to comment on eyewitness accounts of the attack, which occured on a Greyhound bus traveling east from Edmonton to Winnipeg.

"I can confirm the victim was stabbed, and that the victim was pronounced dead at the scene," he said.

Overnight, a Facebook website called "R.I.P. Tim" sprang up after news of his death.

"This is one of the most horrific crimes I have ever heard in my life," said one posting.

"I can't believe this is happening," wrote Leah Dryburgh of Winnipeg. "Tim, you were the best guy ever. You didn't deserve this at all."

Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day called the attack "horrific".

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24116210-23109,00.html
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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2008, 02:28:16 PM »

Problem: Man gets decapitated by big hunting knifeTM.
Reaction: horror
Solution: Ban/register those evil knives!
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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2008, 02:37:49 PM »

Not to mention the up of start super invasive, police state, airport security measures at bus depots.

With gas getting so expensive and the plan to turn all highways into NAU toll roads, people will be forced to use more and more mass transit, with all the police state trimmings.  They'd like us all to be their little cattle on their heavily surveiled slaughter carts, without anyway to defend ourselves, knife or gun.

Didn't the UK just ban Katana's too?
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« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2008, 03:28:55 PM »

Problem: Man gets decapitated by big hunting knifeTM.
Reaction: horror
Solution: Ban/register those evil knives!

Yes! Did you notice the not so subtle connection the article made.

"big Rambo knife"

It's supposed to conjure up this type of image in the mind of the reader.

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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2008, 04:36:58 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2008, 08:54:12 AM »

I seem to remeber a couple of bus attacks several years ago. Evreyone was terrified for awhile about....evrything as usual. Well hey we all want to be safe right? submit to our searches!
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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2008, 04:08:13 PM »

I seem to remeber a couple of bus attacks several years ago. Evreyone was terrified for awhile about....evrything as usual. Well hey we all want to be safe right? submit to our searches!

I found this...

Murder Charges In Calif. Bus Attack
Bus Crashes After Driver's Throat Slashed; Two Dead

FRESNO, Calif., Oct. 1, 2002
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(CBS) A transient was booked on suspicion of murder Tuesday for allegedly slashing the throat of a Greyhound bus driver with a pair of scissors, causing a crash that killed two passengers.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/01/national/main523808.shtml

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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2008, 10:23:27 PM »

I found this...

Murder Charges In Calif. Bus Attack
Bus Crashes After Driver's Throat Slashed; Two Dead

FRESNO, Calif., Oct. 1, 2002
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(CBS) A transient was booked on suspicion of murder Tuesday for allegedly slashing the throat of a Greyhound bus driver with a pair of scissors, causing a crash that killed two passengers.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/01/national/main523808.shtml



Thanks , yeah there was this and another at some time as well...scary stuff! I think about the fact that the witnesses said that the guy was "like a robot", mind control?
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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2008, 10:34:21 PM »

Thing that bugs me is this Canton fellow. He's the first one quoted by everyone, why is that? There has to be at least a dozen people with plenty to say.
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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2008, 10:58:36 PM »

  What bugs me is how this story is going to get exploited bigtime to bring airport
security to buses.  Probally before the Olympic Games in 2010 which buses will be a major factor.

  I saw a news story with a security "expert" who wants to stop letter openers from getting on buses because of this freak accident.  Stockwell Day was pretty upset when the supreme court struck down his ideas of being able to use dog teams to snif passengers.


How could a RFID chip have prevented this?

you have to check out this thread:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080802.wmclean0802/CommentStory/National/home

Here is an example of how this is already going to force feed more security into our faces:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/story/2008/08/01/bus-slaying-security.html?ref=rss

Greyhound slaying sparks debate over bus security
Drivers' union calls for metal detectors
Last Updated: Friday, August 1, 2008 | 10:00 AM MT Comments148Recommend82CBC News
A grisly slaying on a Greyhound bus has prompted calls for tighter security on Canadian bus lines, despite the company and Canada's transport agency calling the stabbing death a tragic but isolated incident.

Greyhound spokeswoman Abby Wambaugh said bus travel is the safest mode of transportation, even though bus stations do not have metal detectors and other security measures used at airports.

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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2008, 04:21:14 AM »

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  I saw a news story with a security "expert" who wants to stop letter openers from getting on buses because of this freak accident.  Stockwell Day was pretty upset when the supreme court struck down his ideas of being able to use dog teams to snif passengers.

Get ready for full "Airport Security" style checks to get on long distance buses.
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« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2008, 03:08:13 PM »

Hmm, this article was posted in time to coincide with the Canada bus attack. It is a general story about knife crime and not about any one incident in particular. We are really being manipulated. Here comes knife fear.



Stabbings skyrocket as knives plague city

By Lauren Williams and Gemma Jones

August 04, 2008 12:01am
Article from: The Daily Telegraph

SOME children carry knives like "fashion accessories", with dozens of people stabbed across Sydney every week, doctors and police said yesterday.

Suburbs in Sydney's southwest and west have emerged as the most dangerous, with at least 26 people stabbed each week, The Daily Telegraph has reported.

There were 1300 stabbings in Sydney last year and 2319 across NSW, a 38 per cent jump in just seven years.

New figures show that 34 people have been stabbed to death in Sydney in the past three years.

While central Sydney is the most dangerous area, Blacktown, Fairfield and Liverpool have nearly double the stabbings of other suburbs.

There has been a 40 per cent jump in knife assaults in Fairfield and Liverpool in just 12 months.

St Vincent's Hospital's data shows the number of life-threatening stabbings tripled in the past three years.

It comes as a schoolboy knifed in the heart on Manly Beach on New Year's Eve learned last week that his attacker would not face court.

John Danieli, 17, nearly died but the DPP later withdrew charges.

The HSC student went to the aid of a friend who was also allegedly stabbed by a 15-year-old after an altercation. A surgeon only saved John's life by plugging a hole in his heart with his finger.

"It sends the message that it is OK to pull out a knife and stab someone, this is outrageous," John's father Sam Danieli said.

Shadow legal affairs spokesman Greg Smith said a jail term should replace the $550 fine for possessing a knife in a public place.

The call has been backed by the head of St Vincent's emergency department.

"There used to be a saying that the gun was a form of communication. I'd say it's definitely knives now," Dr Gordian Fulde said.

Figures from the NSW Institute of Trauma Injury Management show a steady increase in serious injuries in the past four years, with 67 last year, up from 54 in 2004.

"We get kids stabbed on a train, or at parties," CEO Danny Cass said.

"The message is - this is not a fashion accessory, they can really cause a lot of damage."

Edward Spowart, 54, became one of the victims from western Sydney when he was murdered in Granville in April.

"I just can't comprehend any more what is happening after seeing what has happened in my own family," his sister, Suzanne Spowart, said.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24123518-2,00.html



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