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Sane honey....
What has this to do with the Temple Mount?
If we are talking about climate change - I have only one answer for that. Scalar Weaponry.
Well, maybe more than one answer - it's about control and "global governance"...the U.N. and the IPCC admitted to that over 10 years ago. And about a 'carbon tax', which naturally, the only feasible way to collect/administer would be via a 'microchip' in every person. (Back to that old book of myths and legends - Revelation again!)
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Sane honey....
What has this to do with the Temple Mount?
If we are talking about climate change - I have only one answer for that. Scalar Weaponry.
Well, maybe more than one answer - it's about control and "global governance"...the U.N. and the IPCC admitted to that over 10 years ago. And about a 'carbon tax', which naturally, the only feasible way to collect/administer would be via a 'microchip' in every person. (Back to that old book of myths and legends - Revelation again!)
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sorry darling, but i really love that rant!
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« Reply #43 on: October 22, 2007, 01:49:50 PM » |
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« Reply #44 on: October 22, 2007, 08:57:15 PM » |
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darlings sugar honey pie sweety lips hot pot friends of the forum- how dare you use my post as a flirting spot. BAH! Sorry, er, 'darling'. |
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all the nonsense in the middle east follows the zionist, fundamentalists, second comers, free-masons, illuminati agenda to conduct a grand snake-god operation...
all of it defies logic, the top 3 judeochritioislam texts (old/new/quoran)
all of them say specifically that you cannot force a rapture
we need to reel in the crooks and liars before they go through with Pike's plan.
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« Reply #46 on: October 23, 2007, 02:46:14 PM » |
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Green eyed lady-
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« Reply #47 on: October 31, 2007, 11:01:08 AM » |
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Lets realize that Revelations is apocalyptic, not meaning end-times hardships, but meaning "symbolic prophesy." You understand that the Woman and the Dragon are metaphors, but not the Temple? not the Prophets? These are all symbols!
Jesus said the kingdom of heaven is within. The Temple is now you, your own soul is the new dwelling place for the Most High... Please read the Whole new testament, understand what is being said. The Temple mount need not be physically touched for these end-times prophecies to come true, the Temple is in your heart, so beware of it being falsely built with occultic inputs from the world around us. Now, prophesy is layered, being fulfilled many times over metaphorically. The Temple may be physically re-built, or maybe not, but don't limit your understanding of the Scriptures to physical things.
All that being said, the NWO is definitely trying to bring about biblical end-times in the physical realm. They are all cultists, all a part of the cogs of Evil, slowly turning like a steam roller over the corpses of our free thought and physical freedoms.
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I'm not saying I don't agree with your statement, Curious Conspiracy, that Jesus said "the kingdom of heaven is within" , but could you site that reference in a specific verse?
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« Reply #49 on: October 31, 2007, 09:08:00 PM » |
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Well, after some research, it looks like that was not a direct quote, I apologize. Apparently something I heard, not read. Forgive me, i don't take these things lightly.
What I recalled was along these lines:
1Cr 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and [that] the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
Regardless of my failure to remember the scriptures, they are full of this very concept. But that, specifically, isn't my point. My point is that these prophesies can be fulfilled without these physical things happening.
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« Reply #50 on: November 02, 2007, 01:51:52 PM » |
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I didn't think there was a verse that could directly back that up.
I disagree, in that what is prophesized is very black and white when it references physical things..
When you start picking out what is physical and what is symbolic , where do you stop?
I think it's very simply outlined in the Bible, and to make it more complicated is pointless and muddles up where the truth essentially lies.
Granted, there are passages that are parables or parallels, but it is within the context of what is being said/described...
Again, I go back to my thought that if you start picking out what YOU deem as a symbolic statement.. even though there is no context that would support that, where does one stop? Where do you begin?
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BossGator the 2 witnesses are either 2 different things!! 1) they are either Moses and Elijah and 2) They could be a symbolic representation of the Moses ministry and the Elijah ministry!! for only a few of us will have that type of power!! Me being one of the few!! Or few hundred!! As for the Temple Mount; I think that wherever these sacrifices and rituals will take place that God will ofcourse not be any part of it as Jesus is our official and once and for all sacrifice!! However; once they take the MARK OF THE BEAST; THAT WILL TURN MEN INTO THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION ALSO!! Meaning that men and women will be totally desolate of the grace and the mercy of God and will become like satanic beast and monsters!!
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« Reply #52 on: November 03, 2007, 07:28:28 AM » |
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I didn't think there was a verse that could directly back that up.
I disagree, in that what is prophesized is very black and white when it references physical things..
When you start picking out what is physical and what is symbolic , where do you stop?
I think it's very simply outlined in the Bible, and to make it more complicated is pointless and muddles up where the truth essentially lies.
Granted, there are passages that are parables or parallels, but it is within the context of what is being said/described...
Again, I go back to my thought that if you start picking out what YOU deem as a symbolic statement.. even though there is no context that would support that, where does one stop? Where do you begin?
Well, you may believe that, but apocalyptic prophesy just isnt literal. It isnt meant to be. Do you think any description of Spirit, using physical metaphors like "wings" or "eyes" is NOT symbolic? Does a spirit have wings? Impossible. It is Spirit. What about the letters to the 7 churches in Revelation Ch 2 and 3? It doesn't mention the Church in America, (how could it, except metaphorically) so does that mean all Americans can disregard the letters to the churches? No way, those letters speak to all believers. So where do YOU draw the line? Look there need be no line. It is all literal and symbolic. My point is most of the physical can be interpreted as already being fulfilled through the Romans (Rome as the City with 7 hills) and the Crusades (various horsemen), and the further layers of truth in the prophesy of Revelation that still await fulfillment are, you guessed it, symbolic. All of this takes, as the final verse promises, "The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ." |
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« Reply #53 on: November 03, 2007, 01:26:46 PM » |
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Sorry guys!! Most of you are very ignorant when it comes to the Book of Revelation and your carnal and natural interpretations!! You should get your information and revelation from a prophet or from a true apostle!! Sorry but you guys are way off !!
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« Reply #54 on: November 05, 2007, 03:58:34 PM » |
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Curious,
A spirit doesn't have the same limitations as you do.. Especially higher angels seraphim, cheribum., etc.. Angels take on physical form dear.. so do other spirits...See, they have an ability to tune into all sorts of frequencies you don't even realize don't exist...
I know that some things are symbolic.. I just don't throw the blanket banner of symbolism over the entire book of Revelation, or other prophesy in general, it isn't wise to do such a thing, dont you think?
Maybe there isn't a letter written to America, because there is no such thing as America by then..?
Or what if the churches he is talking about., .like the church of thessolonica, philidelphia, etc are not physical locations but the heart and attitude of the body of believers....
try not to close yourself off to different ideas, simply because you think so strongly you are right.
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« Reply #55 on: November 07, 2007, 08:32:04 PM » |
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Curious,
A spirit doesn't have the same limitations as you do.. Especially higher angels seraphim, cheribum., etc.. Angels take on physical form dear.. so do other spirits...See, they have an ability to tune into all sorts of frequencies you don't even realize don't exist...
I know that some things are symbolic.. I just don't throw the blanket banner of symbolism over the entire book of Revelation, or other prophesy in general, it isn't wise to do such a thing, dont you think?
Maybe there isn't a letter written to America, because there is no such thing as America by then..?
Or what if the churches he is talking about., .like the church of thessolonica, philidelphia, etc are not physical locations but the heart and attitude of the body of believers....
try not to close yourself off to different ideas, simply because you think so strongly you are right.
-lasher, you are right with all you say above... does any of it change what I said? Maybe I'm not being clear at all, and should hang it up for now. You are echoing my point exactly about the 7 churches, there need not be a LITERAL church in that case. All I'm trying to say is that most of the posts above are extolling a physical, one-time fulfillment of Revelation, and that MAY not be what we (as Christians, the 7 churches) need be focusing on. The Temple Mount may not be physically built, but re-built as the temple of God in the Heart's of believers. I speak what I believe because I believe it strongly. I will never submit to a "that's YOUR opinion" argument, as that very comment assumes my opinion is not based on reason and study, and therefore, if wrong, could be overturned by further study or greater reasoning. I debate to seek or give understanding. There is absolute truth, and if not we are all wasting time posting, debating, learning, sharing. I don't think this is a waste of my time or yours. Case in point: Your comment on Spirits. True, I don't understand/can't comprehend, as I cannot perceive in the spiritual realm. So what I'm calling symbolic may be the other way around. CS Lewis often said the spiritual, or heavenly, is More Real than the "real." Maybe its OUR eyes that are symbolic to some deeper truth/concept in the heavenly realm. Thanks for the perspective. |
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« Reply #56 on: November 07, 2007, 08:34:08 PM » |
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Sorry guys!! Most of you are very ignorant when it comes to the Book of Revelation and your carnal and natural interpretations!! You should get your information and revelation from a prophet or from a true apostle!! Sorry but you guys are way off !!
so... wanna elaborate? or are we so "way off" we're not worth your time? Where can I find a true prophet, or an apostle? (I sense a upcoming Catholic tirade on apostolic succession... which I welcome much more than the vague suggestions quoted above.) |
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« Reply #57 on: November 12, 2007, 02:23:43 PM » |
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Curious,
I agree with all that you said.
As you can tell I also believe in absolutes, and that if what I/you believe is true, it doesn't require any agreement for it to be true. It is what it is.
At anyrate it is good to search for the truth regardless what it may do to our perceptions.
I agree.
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And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. The Kingdom of God is a spiritual kingdom, which every believer is in, but which is not visible as an empire of buildings, etc. The kingdom of Heaven ("of", not "in") is a literal, visible, physical kingdom on this earth that Jesus Christ will rule over when He returns. The kingdoms of this world are presently under Satan. The passages in Matthew that so many people have a hard time with are distinctly Jewish in orientation, since Jesus is speaking to Jews under the Law and the context is the burning question "will you at this time restore again the Kingdom to Israel?" Before that could happen, certain conditions had to be met. They weren't met, and the Gospel went to the Gentiles while God set Israel aside for ~2000 years. With regard to the Temple, the requirement is that it be purified and prepared for the King to rule on the throne of David, not that sacrifices be reinstituted. The Dome of the Rock, built on the ancient pagan "high place", NOT the site of the Holy of Holies, will be the likely site for the "abomination". The word used in the Biblical passage is the word for the pagan Temple of Diana on the "high place", not the word for the Hebrew Temple. The Holy of Holies is not under the Dome of the Rock http://www.ldolphin.org/domebase.html The octagonal structure is the dome of the Rock mosque. Sagiv found a similar octagonal foundation at Caesarea at the site of Stato's tower, which was built in the 5th Century B.C. The name of Strato's Tower preserves the name of the goddess 'Ashtrt ('Ashtoreth'), the well-known Canaanite goddess. Thus the site of the Dome of the Rock may have originally been a Canaanite High Place dedicated to Ashteroth. If so, Sagiv believes the Jews would have built the First and Second Temples below the summit of Mount Moriah deliberately to disassociate the God of Israel from any of the pagan gods. The thing you have to understand about the 7 Churches is that John was seeing 2000 years of church history from the perspective of being in Heaven after the Rapture, (Rev. 4:1) with the Tribulation about to begin on Earth. Therefore, the 7 Churches can be seen either as 7 periods of church history or as the heart and attitude of the body of believers. We are in the Laodicean Period now. |
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I'd say so , Lady <;
I think one or the other (or both) are mentioned in Revelations too..
im not all certain of that tho
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However, there's a BIG problem with Christians supporting Israel. If you want to raise money for Israel that's your business, I disagree with their politics and involvement in conspiracies, however it is a nation state, so you have no right to take away its land now, it has been there long enough to be legitimate. The United States government has NO business in the Middle-East or with Israel, we should stop giving money to all countries because it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND THEREFORE ILLEGAL.
I thought you said there was ' no big problem with Christians supporting Israel'; and I was going to get very upset at you I'd say that considering the nation of Israel was disbanded and Christ's own people established as God's chosen and His only chosen, there is a big problem with these deceived fools who believe that Israel is still God's nation. Not to say God doesn't love all mankind, but that's just the point, the Savior was to save all mankind (and was the 'last Adam' - important because Israel was God's saving Adam's descendents). Jesus was the ultimate and the last jew, and the fulfillment of all their prophecies... In that respect, modern Judaism is 'awkward' because they're waiting for a savior that has already come, and whilst doing so they are enacting redundant rituals. Unfortunately this is where we get libelled as being 'Anti-Semitic' by the Jewish people (not all of them, just those who still like to believe that they are chosen of God and are therefore the superior race)... But no it's not that, I just think modern Israel does some pretty mean-hearted things, and Americans have no business supporting them without questioning their actions. What really gets me is the Christians who seem to want the Antichrist (or plural) to come into power and bring hell on Earth - because they think they'll be taken away when that happens. Not so. The Bible says the tribulation will be a terrible time for us - what with the beheadings, not being able to buy and sell, etc. and it's only when 3.5 years (if they are real years) are up when we may be taken away - then it gets really bad (locusts that will sting, and make men wish they are dead, but "death will not come") which I think is when we will see the rise of a 'third chosen of God' - Truth Movement members who are not Christian but have wisdom, will see these things happen and believe; whilst the cowardly Zionist Christians who thought they'd be removed before the world goes to hell will think that God has forsaken them and stop believing - perhaps that is the real 'Great Apostasy'? |
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I thought you said there was ' no big problem with Christians supporting Israel'; and I was going to get very upset at you I'd say that considering the nation of Israel was disbanded and Christ's own people established as God's chosen and His only chosen, there is a big problem with these deceived fools who believe that Israel is still God's nation. I think many are 'caught up' in the Old Testament "I will bless those who bless you, and curse those who curse you" verse. Not to mention the prophetic implications of the nation of "Israel' being re-created. |
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I think many are 'caught up' in the Old Testament "I will bless those who bless you, and curse those who curse you" verse.
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It's amazing how so many Christians cheer on mass killings and war because they think it will bring them that much more closer to being raptured. I would like to get to Heaven without dying too, but I would not want to compramise my Christian beliefs to get there.
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It's amazing how so many Christians cheer on mass killings and war because they think it will bring them that much more closer to being raptured. I would like to get to Heaven without dying too, but I would not want to compramise my Christian beliefs to get there.
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The Serapis Bey material and other of its ilk has its beginnings in the activities of the angels that sinned, mixing their seed with the daughters of men. By doing so, they obtained bodies which they could 'incarnate' into (demonically possess), since such beings would be not human and could not therefore receive the soul of a man. Another effect of this is that such beings would be unredeemable and these evil angels hoped to contaminate the seed of mankind and block the coming of Messiah the Prince, the Son of God to redeem fallen mankind. Satan is a great imitator and counterfeitor, so it is no surprise that there would be some similarities of architecture. Many features of pagan temples are unique only to paganism, however. God insists on doing some things differently. God never instructed that His temples should include obelisks, for example. That is a hallmark of Satanism, not the worship of the true God. As I noted in a previous post, the Hebrew Temple was not located on the highest piece of ground in that ridge system. The pagan temples were the "high places". The ancient Hebrews made a point of not building there, but on lower ground. Re: my earlier statement "With regard to the Temple, the requirement is that it be purified and prepared for the King to rule on the throne of David, not that sacrifices be reinstituted." I should also add that during the Millennial Reign, there shall be pots in the Temple, and people shall "seethe therein". This is not to say that "sacrifices" will be made to obtain forgiveness of sin, but that there are some things that will be restored by Christ upon His return to rule as King. Ia Resistance, I think you would profit from reading Zechariah's prophecy of the events of the Tribulation and Millennium, having to do SPECIFICALLY with the physical descendants of Jacob. Your view of them and God's plan for them is not Scriptural, and neither is your view of the future of those who trust Christ for their salvation in this age.
Zechariah 8:1 Again the word of the LORD of hosts came to me, saying,
2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; I was jealous for Zion with great jealousy, and I was jealous for her with great fury.
3 Thus saith the LORD; I am returned unto Zion, and will dwell in the midst of Jerusalem: and Jerusalem shall be called a city of truth; and the mountain of the LORD of hosts the holy mountain.
4 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; There shall yet old men and old women dwell in the streets of Jerusalem, and every man with his staff in his hand for very age.
5 And the streets of the city shall be full of boys and girls playing in the streets thereof.
6 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; If it be marvellous in the eyes of the remnant of this people in these days, should it also be marvellous in mine eyes? saith the LORD of hosts.
7 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Behold, I will save my people from the east country, and from the west country;
8 And I will bring them, and they shall dwell in the midst of Jerusalem: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God, in truth and in righteousness.
9 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Let your hands be strong, ye that hear in these days these words by the mouth of the prophets, which were in the day that the foundation of the house of the LORD of hosts was laid, that the temple might be built.
10 For before these days there was no hire for man, nor any hire for beast; neither was there any peace to him that went out or came in because of the affliction: for I set all men every one against his neighbour.
11 But now I will not be unto the residue of this people as in the former days, saith the LORD of hosts.
12 For the seed shall be prosperous; the vine shall give her fruit, and the ground shall give her increase, and the heavens shall give their dew; and I will cause the remnant of this people to possess all these things.
13 And it shall come to pass, that as ye were a curse among the heathen, O house of Judah, and house of Israel; so will I save you, and ye shall be a blessing: fear not, but let your hands be strong.
14 For thus saith the LORD of hosts; As I thought to punish you, when your fathers provoked me to wrath, saith the LORD of hosts, and I repented not:
15 So again have I thought in these days to do well unto Jerusalem and to the house of Judah: fear ye not.
16 These are the things that ye shall do; Speak ye every man the truth to his neighbour; execute the judgment of truth and peace in your gates:
17 And let none of you imagine evil in your hearts against his neighbour; and love no false oath: for all these are things that I hate, saith the LORD.
18 And the word of the LORD of hosts came unto me, saying,
19 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; The fast of the fourth month, and the fast of the fifth, and the fast of the seventh, and the fast of the tenth, shall be to the house of Judah joy and gladness, and cheerful feasts; therefore love the truth and peace.
20 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; It shall yet come to pass, that there shall come people, and the inhabitants of many cities:
21 And the inhabitants of one city shall go to another, saying, Let us go speedily to pray before the LORD, and to seek the LORD of hosts: I will go also.
22 Yea, many people and strong nations shall come to seek the LORD of hosts in Jerusalem, and to pray before the LORD.
23 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.
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The Serapis Bey material and other of its ilk has its beginnings in the activities of the angels that sinned, mixing their seed with the daughters of men. By doing so, they obtained bodies which they could 'incarnate' into (demonically possess), since such beings would be not human and could not therefore receive the soul of a man. Another effect of this is that such beings would be unredeemable and these evil angels hoped to contaminate the seed of mankind and block the coming of Messiah the Prince, the Son of God to redeem fallen mankind.
Ia Resistance, I think you would profit from reading Zechariah's prophecy of the events of the Tribulation and Millennium, having to do SPECIFICALLY with the physical descendants of Jacob. Your view of them and God's plan for them is not Scriptural, and neither is your view of the future of those who trust Christ for their salvation in this age.
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Religion is the excuse and not the reason to make war......... all religions came from an older religion that goes to the beginning of time, I wonder what you guys would do if there was no religion and what the new excuse would be to make war.
Take the Bible.....it was started 78 years after the death of Jesus so that many of those who were with him were already dead, it took something like 288 year to write it and it was changed so many times (according as to who was in power) that now days is nothing of what it was in the beginning....don't take me wrong, the Bible is real but to me is only a history book of some things and not a holy book, Jesus could have been real and a very good man but not the "son" of God, only a human which you made into a God.
We create our own God's and saint's according to our needs and then placed them on a pedestal and kneel before them........ you don't need for anyone to tell you what's wrong and what's right because inside you should know.
The Neocons Jews are trying to kill Christianity and Jesus and it shows what real evil can do given the power to do so......... anyone will do to you only what you allowed them to do to you.
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« Reply #72 on: June 04, 2008, 12:46:42 AM » |
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Indeed, the book of JOB is considered to be the oldest in the Bible - written even BEFORE Moses penned Genesis. Interesting bit in there about "Leviathan" too.
Also,according to my septuagent bible ,grneyelady, Job( full name-Jobab) was a fifth generation decendent of Esau, the "cursed" one of the "twins" (Esau,Jacob) and yet God blessed him abundantly! |
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« Reply #73 on: June 04, 2008, 08:13:54 PM » |
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Re: "Also,according to my septuagent bible ,grneyelady, Job( full name-Jobab) was a fifth generation decendent of Esau" I'll see your genealogy and raise you ten. There's more than one Job in the Bible, and the same is true of other names. Also, the mythological B.C. Septuagint cannot be dated any earlier than 270 A.D., and stemmed from Origen's school in Alexandria. There are perhaps some parts of some books of the O.T. that were translated into Greek before the time of Christ, but the teaching that the entire Masoretic text had been translated into Greek and was in wide circulation at the time of Christ IS A LIE. |
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« Reply #75 on: June 07, 2009, 11:06:59 AM » |
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Nobody owns the Temple Mount except the state of Israel, rest assured.
Since biblical prophesy about the "end times" cannot be fulfilled without the Temple being re-built, take the destruction of the Dome of the Rock as a HUGE sign that you had better get yourself right with God.
NILES' WEEKLY REGISTER, from Baltimore, Maryland, dated November 28, 1829 * The Rothschilds buy Jerusalem This small size newspaper began in 1811 and was a prime source for national political news of the first half of the19th century. One of the articles within is headed: "Jerusalem" with the text beginning: "There is a report that the Rothschilds have purchased Jerusalem! We see nothing improbable that, in the pecuniary distress of the sultan..." with more, & ending with: "...The sultan is in great difficulty--Baron Rothschild was proceeding to Constantinople & a second rebuilding of the temple is not among the most strange things expected in these strange times, by some of the Jews." (see photos).  http://www.rarenewspapers.com/view/549626?list_url=%2Flist%3Fq%255Bsearch_method%255D%3DComma%2BList%26q%255Btext%255D%3Dabolition%252Canti%2Bslavery%252Canti-slavery |
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« Reply #76 on: June 07, 2009, 11:50:12 AM » |
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Nobody owns the Temple Mount except the state of Israel, rest assured.
Since biblical prophesy about the "end times" cannot be fulfilled without the Temple being re-built, take the destruction of the Dome of the Rock as a HUGE sign that you had better get yourself right with God.
Your interpretation of end times prophesy needs the rebuilt temple. A temple that is built in defiance of Christ's ONE TIME sacrifice for sin. How could such a place be considered 'holy' ? How could such a place be 'defiled' ? 1Co 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 1Co 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are. The temple of God is clearly defined in the scriptures as the body of corporate believers. 2Co 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. You are getting your theology from bible correcting heretics like Nelson, Darby, Scofield, Margaret MacDonald, and the Jesuit Ribera. |
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« Reply #77 on: June 07, 2009, 12:16:42 PM » |
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Your interpretation of end times prophesy needs the rebuilt temple.
A temple that is built in defiance of Christ's ONE TIME sacrifice for sin.
How could such a place be considered 'holy' ? How could such a place be 'defiled' ?
1Co 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
1Co 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
The temple of God is clearly defined in the scriptures as the body of corporate believers.
2Co 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
You are getting your theology from bible correcting heretics like Nelson, Darby, Scofield, Margaret MacDonald, and the Jesuit Ribera.
With all due respect, the Masons are the ones with the desire (and the means) to rebuild "Solomon's" Temple. It is not the rebuilding of the "Holy Temple" they seek. It will be the "Unholy" temple meant to become the seat of the NWO Religion. |
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« Reply #78 on: June 07, 2009, 12:40:18 PM » |
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fixing for errors
whether you agree ot disagree there will be a temple in the end times for the event known as the abomination of desolation
THERE DUMB CHECKER THINGY
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« Reply #79 on: June 07, 2009, 12:42:33 PM » |
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well if you fixed it then why does it still say dessolution?
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