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Youtube: http://youtube.com/watch?v=n1tLO87vzNQ

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Released on Youtube and Google video this week, FOOL ME TWICE, exposes the cover-up of the Bali bombings and provides evidence that it was a Falseflag Operation.  The film begins by documenting the Australian government’s prior knowledge of the Indonesian military’s plan to use violence to maintain autonomy over East Timor. Contrary to The Howard Governments claims they argued against peacekeeping forces allowing the Indonesian Special Forces to carry out their campaign of fear and suppression.

Within 24 hours of the 2002 Bali bombings a team of FBI, UK special agents and Australian federal police started arriving in Bali. The investigation team continuously claimed different explosive devices were responsible for the main blast. Days after the attacks, Indonesian Police Chief, General Dai’ Bachtier, announced that the FBI had discovered C4 pointing the blame towards Jemaah Islamiah, JI (“SE Asia wing of Al qaeda”). Eventually, investigators concluded that the main explosive device was a potassium chlorate car bomb. C4 was never included in final reports.

The main explosive device was so powerful it seriously damaged buildings in a 2/400 metre radius and left a 1 metre deep, 10 metre wide crater. 202 people perished in the blasts, the majority incinerated from the main explosive device. Investigators quickly excavated the crater contents and dumped the remaining debris off the coast of southern Bali, including completely stripped concrete reinforcing bars. Potassium chlorate is a low velocity explosive and does not have the overpressure force to create a 1 metre deep crater or completely incinerate humans, let alone strip concrete. Only a high-tech explosive device has the power to strip concrete.

FBI claims of C4 announced by General Dai’ Bachtier, ensured Jemaah Islamiah was immediately blamed for the Bali bombings. All prior intelligence of the Bali bombings came from so called JI leader, Omar Al-Faruq. Omar Al-Faruq was secretly handed over to the US by Indonesia months prior to the bombings under the CIA’s extraordinary rendition program. Australian intelligence agencies reported that intelligence obtained from captured “JI suspect”, Omar Al-Faruq, warned of possible terrorist attacks in Bali. After the attacks the Bush administration denied access to Al-Faruq for questioning in the Bali bombing trials. When Omar Al-Faruq was suddenly called by US court to provide evidence in a trial of another terrorist suspect – he had “escaped high security prison”. No JI leaders have ever been brought to trial.

Prior to the Bali bombings the Indonesian government denied the existence of terrorists within Indonesia and opposed US anti-terror operations in Afghanistan. After the bombings President Megawati signed a joint statement – “Agreeing that terrorism poses a continued threat to international peace and security, and that the two Presidents are committed to enhancing their bilateral cooperation in the fight against terrorism”. The Bush administration provided funds to the Indonesian police and military and setup a national terrorism unit under the control of national police chief, General Dai’ Bachtier.

Official Government Version: http://www.afp.gov.au/international/operations/previous_operations/bali_bombings_2002.html

http://nephilim.realrepublic.com/BALITRUTHCARDS/ - Bali Truth Cards

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The Hidden Facts Relating To The Bali Bombings.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1451.htm

Did you know ?

That a former retired Air Force Officer had allegedly confessed to police his involvement in the bombing and was then released.

That this officer was allegedly trained in America in explosives.

That the destruction and deaths of 190 people in this explosion may have been caused by a micro nuke of the type now been considered ( by the Bush Cabal ) as a possible weapon in the up coming war in Iraq.

That had conventional explosives been used this victim's hair would have been burned (picture on left)



That victims of a micro nuke would present with evidence of flash burns as seen in picture on the left.

Bali bombing: An investigator's analysis

Robert S. Finnegan, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta

January 03, 2003


On October 12, 2002 the Indonesian island of Bali experienced a terrorist attack that rocked the world. It was unquestionably well-coordinated and executed, the largest in the country's history.

Investigators and forensics experts from both national and international teams that had quickly been assembled flocked to the crime scene, ostensibly to begin what should have been a long, drawn out exercise in forensics and investigative sleuthing to identify and capture the foot soldiers, coordinators and masterminds behind the attack that has left over 190 known dead, scores missing without a trace and hundreds more wounded.

It has turned out to be anything but that.

The Indonesian government immediately vowed to unite in the hunt for the bombers.

The U.S. government along with the international community seized the opportunity to point the finger at the shadowy al-Qaeda group along with Muslim cleric Abu Bakar Ba'asyir as the culprits.

In hindsight, it would appear that perhaps these individuals, given their apparent intimate knowledge of the perpetrators immediately following the bombing should have been included on the investigating team. Perhaps if they had we would know more than we do today, which is very little despite the volume of information (or disinformation) being vomited out by the spokesmen for the investigative teams on a daily basis.

A creeping sense of foreboding began soon after the forensics people and other investigators (inclusive of Insp. Gen. I Made Pastika and his army of hundreds of supposedly top-notch investigators with virtually unlimited resources at their disposal) announced after only a week and a half that they were wrapping up their on-site work and retreating to the labs to analyze their findings. Astounding work, as it must have set a world record for crime scene forensic analysis.

Given the scope of the bombing and the sheer size of the primary and secondary blast areas - where trace from a plethora of different explosive compounds were swabbed from - this was a feat that escaped even the vaunted investigators working the World Trade Center crime scene in New York, who spent nearly a year literally sifting by hand for evidence at the site. It would appear that the teams on Bali possessed far superior skills and techniques ... or was there something else responsible for their haste in wrapping up so quickly and then sending the rest of the evidence as quickly as possible to the bottom of the ocean off Bali?

At this point in their investigation National Police Chief Gen. Da'i Bachtiar states for the record that "traces of a chemical powder used in the bomb" were found in the van allegedly used to transport the large device. What powder? Even a cursory examination of the crater and primary site immediately following the bombings would make this statement laughable were it not for the circumstances.

If indeed the Mitsubishi L300 van was used in the large blast, the five-foot deep by twenty-foot wide crater indicates that it would have been completely vaporized, including the engine block which they apparently found intact - along with the victims who instantly vanished. Indeed, this begs the question: Where did the investigators obtain this evidence in relation to the crater?

Is it possible that if the van survived the large blast it was because it was parked at the edge of the primary blast zone, packed with small amounts of all the explosives - whose traces were found at the sites - in order to throw off independent investigators?

In addition, there is the Memorandum of Understanding (MoU), allegedly signed jointly by the National Police and the international investigation team, specifically restricting the scope of the "investigation links" and prohibiting international inquiries. Could this at least partially explain why Pastika has continually stonewalled, intimidated and generally obstructed independent investigators during the course of their work?

During the first weeks of the investigation, notables such as State Intelligence Agency (BIN) Chief Hendropriyono, Susilo Yudhoyono, Assembly Speaker Amien Rais and Pastika focused or pretended to focus on foreigners - without specifying "which" foreigners - who they said were behind the attack. Somehow this twisting, turning trail dried up and disappeared into thin air without explanation, along with the former retired Air Force Officer who allegedly confessed to police his involvement in the bombing and was then released. To this day his whereabouts remain unknown and police investigators either cannot or will not release any information on this man, an officer who was allegedly trained in America in explosives and is an incredible lead that should have been followed-up on aggressively and thoroughly. Why was it not?

Are these the statements and actions of professional investigators - or the actions of individuals engaged in a cover-up?

Let's look at the myriad of explosive traces found at the site and subsequently cited individually off and on by investigators and police as "the explosive" used in the bombings.

First it was C-4, then RDX. These two are actually the same, the difference being nine percent mallable plastic used in C-4. So, which is more powerful? RDX - nine percent more powerful than C-4.

Day after day, investigators trotted out a different explosive and combinations of explosives purportedly responsible for the blasts. In addition to C-4 and RDX there was now TNT, Ammonium Nitrate, HMX, Semtex, PETN, Chlorate and napalm. Everything but the kitchen sink. Was this gross ineptitude? Or another ploy to throw independent investigators off the trail?

For example, had the originators of the napalm theory studied up on the material before opening their mouths they would have known that napalm leaves a sticky, smelly residue on everything, including victims. This was not in evidence at the blast site or at the Sanglah burn ward and morgue, where the burn victims were taken. Therefore, in the absence of any physical evidence, napalm must be excluded and the originators of this farce be awarded a grade of "F" in "explosives analysis." In other words, if you are going to lie, be professional about it at least know what you are lying about and have the mental capacity to remember what you said when you said it. This single evidentiary template could easily be applied and extended to the entire "official investigation" of the Bali bombings where deceit, obstruction and obfuscation are and have been the name of the game.

To put this in perspective, let us look at three of the explosives claimed by official investigators to have been used in the bombings, starting with the compound that has the lowest velocity of detonation in feet per second (FPS) which is Potassium Chlorate at 3,500 FPS; compared to 12,000 FPS for Ammonium Nitrate and diesel and finally 27,800 FPS for RDX. In simple terms, at any given distance from ground zero these different explosive compounds will exert pressure in pounds per square inch. Damage to people and structures are a result of this pressure in varying degrees depending on the velocity of detonation. Even if RDX were used, the amount needed to cause the level of destruction in evidence at the crime scene should have been in excess of anything available through even the military, who denied possession of the explosive. There is also the delivery of the device to be taken into account.

Each of the explosives cited by investigators (with the exception of napalm) have unique and individual characteristics that vary for usage, stability and explosive yeild. They require specific detonators for each in order to obtain maximum effect.

Also now at the bottom of the ocean off Bali is the reinforcing bar (rebar) located more than fifty feet from ground zero that had been completely stripped of concrete as a result of the blast. Documented military estimates of the force required to accomplish this is roughly 1 million to 1.5 million pounds per square inch.

What kind of weapon or device could accomplish this? And for that matter leave a crater of that size? Why was it filled in? This arguably could have been one of the most important pieces of evidence available to investigators not only for the trace explosive in evidence, but from which also could have been determined (roughly) the size and composition of the device.

With the police claiming (off and on) that Amrozi, Mukhlas and Samudra (who allegedly at one point denied involvement in the Bali bombings) were the perpetrators of the blasts, then why do the official investigators not know EXACTLY the type of device used in the main bombing and its precise composition? To put it quite simply, how can we have a bomber or bombers in the absence of a bomb?

Why were Amrozi and Samudra so quick to confess and finger their "accomplices"? Were these the actions of dedicated, radical, Islamic fundamentalists? "Professionals"? Did they expect to further their cause by eviscerating their own organization? Does it make sense that they were willing to kill and maim hundreds of innocents - including many fellow Indonesians - and yet implicate their comrades to save their own skins?

Given this dismal investigative performance, exactly what role did the international investigating team play in this debacle?

If indeed there is one thing that has been glaringly apparent throughout this investigation, it is that perhaps nothing close to the truth has been told as of today. It is also apparent that something is very, very wrong not only with the procedural aspects of this case, but also with the suppression and outright destruction of evidence. The international investigators bear a heavy responsibility for this, and should be held accountable.

Jakarta Post Editor Robert S. Finnegan is an internationally published investigative reporter with over two decades investigative experience. He currently holds an Alaska (U.S.) Private Investigator license.
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Thanks for posting that.  My new Korean flatmate and I watched it last night.  It is well done and the evidence presented to show the Bali bombings were an inside job I thought convincing.  The size of the crater and the huge force of the blast evident in the neighbouring buildings made it clear that it could not have been accomplished with the kind of explosive the authorities said the "terrorist" had used.  What was used was a high grade explosive - one that would point to it being an inside job.  The fact that the American Embassy told a journalist to stop investigating was also telling, so too that the evidence was dumped in the sea and the official story about what kind of explosive was used, kept changing.

  It was good to see the film maker covering false flag attacks with the evidence that he did-some of it we've seen before in Terrorstorm and some not.
  It was easy to lose track at one stage and switch off as there was so much detail related to who the "official" terrorists were, but that's probably because I've had too much fluoride.  

  It was well worth watching.
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Bali 10/12/02 False flag motive: Indoneisan Govt. REJECTED NWO NARRATIVE
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2008, 09:36:08 PM »
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,24569956-38196,00.html

THE three Islamic militants on death row for the Bali bombings have a grim warning for Australians - don't come back because we will strike again. The chilling message on the eve of the executions of Amrozi, Mukhlas and Imam Samudra was made in an exclusive interview with CNN, to be broadcast in Australia next month.

In the special report, correspondent Dan Rivers interviews the trio in their cells at a prison in central Java.

In a preview, released by CNN, Rivers shows Amrozi pictures of the aftermath of the blasts in the popular Kuta district in 2002.

The nightclub bombings killed 202 people, including 88 Australians.

Asked what goes through his mind he sees the devastation wrought by the bombs, Amrozi replies "What do I think? Thank God."

He said he had "no regrets whatsoever".

"My message for Australians; don't you come to places like that ever again. I'm sure that my colleagues will bomb it again," he says through an interpreter.

Rivers puts to Samudra that he has twisted the words of the Koran to justify the bloodshed.

"Where does it say in the Koran that you have the right to kill innocent people? You are twisting your religion completely," Rivers asks.

"I know better than you because I am Muslim and you are kaffir (infidel). You kaffir know nothing," Samudra replies, waving his hand at the reporter.

"The verse, blood by blood, soul by soul. Your country - US, UK, Australia alliance - already killing my people," he says.

The bombers are due to be executed by firing squad by early next month, with reports that it could take place as early as this weekend. Security has been beefed up around Cilacap, near Nusa Kambangan Island where the bombers are jailed. An Islamic website this week reported the trio had urged a religious war in a letter addressed to all Muslims.

In the letter, dated August 5 but published for the first time this week, the men said if Allah destined them to die from the bullets of police then it would be a savage action.

"To all Islamic people, especially Mujahidin (holy warriors), wherever they are, it is your obligation to claim war and kill the persons involved in the execution, like (Indonesian President) Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono," the letter said.

The CNN report, Inside the Mind of a Terrorist, airs in Australia on November 16 at 1am, 1pm, and 5pm (AEDT) and on November 17 at 9am (AEDT).
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Re: Bali 10/12/02 False flag motive: Indoneisan Govt. REJECTED NWO NARRATIVE
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2009, 09:58:19 AM »
Show "Fool Me Twice" to everyone you know. A great documentary that shows the bs that was paraded in front of us while it was happening.
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Prior to the Bali bombings the Indonesian government denied the existence of terrorists within Indonesia and opposed US anti-terror operations in Afghanistan. After the bombings President Megawati signed a joint statement – “Agreeing that terrorism poses a continued threat to international peace and security, and that the two Presidents are committed to enhancing their bilateral cooperation in the fight against terrorism”. The Bush administration provided funds to the Indonesian police and military and setup a national terrorism unit under the control of national police chief, General Dai’ Bachtier.

^^That's the key right there.  The Indonesian government was not yet under New World Order control, at least not to the degree that they wanted.  The Indonesian government refused to live in the New World Order's NOOSPHERE, they refused to subscribe to their NARRATIVE of non-existent terrorists.  They REJECTED THE REVOLUTION IN MILITARY AFFAIRS.  So the New World Order carried out the Bali bombing false flag to force them to "believe that terrorism is a real threat".  It is really important to expose all of these older false flags, because the elite incessantly use them as references for justification for the continued advancement of their cybernetically governed feudalistic global dictatorship.

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AFX News Limited
Ex-Indonesian president links police, military to 2002 Bali bombings
10.12.2005, 07:40 AM

SYDNEY (AFX) - Indonesia's former president Abdurrahman Wahid has said his nation's police or military officers may have been involved in the 2002 Bali bombings which killed 202 people.

As Australia marked the third anniversary of the nightclub attacks in which 88 Australians died, Wahid told SBS television's Dateline that he fears there are links between Indonesian authorities and terror groups.

On the program, which is due to air later today, he said that while terrorists were responsible for the first bomb which went off on Oct 12, 2002, the second blast may have been organised by the authorities.

Asked who had planted the second bomb, he said: 'Maybe the police... or the armed forces.'

He added: 'The orders to do this or that came from within our armed forces not from the fundamentalist people.'

The 2002 bombings on the Indonesian resort island have been blamed on the Islamic group, Jemaah Islamiyah.

Jemaah Islamiyah has also been fingered as being behind the latest Bali bombings which killed 20 people, plus three suicide bombers, on Oct 1.

Wahid was sacked as president by the national assembly in July 2001 for unproven allegations of corruption and incompetence.

He was replaced by his vice president, Megawati Sukarnoputri who has since been replaced by former general Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono.

The 64-year-old Wahid is practically blind, diabetic and has suffered strokes.
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ABDURRAHMAN WAHID, FORMER INDONESIAN PRESIDENT: The Australians if they get the truth, I think it's a grave mistake.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0510/S00223.htm

TRACEY GOLOTTA: And we looked out our window and we could see all the smoke coming up into the air. And it was like what you saw when they showed the Hiroshima ones with the...just the mushroom cloud come up. And that's what we could see.
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2003/transcripts/s946351.htm

The Network – 4 corners MAN 1: This is horrendous. I've never seen anything like it. People are burnt everywhere. Everything has gone, the whole street.
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/s713135.htm

Witnesses contradicted the Australian Federal Police’s obscure suicide bomber theory. Patty’s bar staff said that they… Nattallia Sinclaire, wife of the owner of Paddy's, said a local member of staff had seen a man walk into the club and throw a plastic bag full of explosives. The woman, who was treated in the burns unit of the local hospital, said: "I will never forget his face as long as I live." Investigators chose to ignore this testimony.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/10/19/1034561354185.html

“The crime scene was spread over half a kilometer” mick kelty 18 nov 2002
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2002/s729527.htm

The force of the blast completely levelled the Sari club in seconds. Anything in direct contact of the main blast wave was completely destroyed. Mick Keelty revealed that surrounding vehicles were blown 30 metres down the street.
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/10/21/1034561444770.html

The main explosive instantly ignited cars and buildings within a 2-400 metre radius.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/10/14/1034222684262.html

Windows were shattered over 600 metres from ground zero. The main blast cracked the walls of buildings several kilometres from ground zero. (Damage from distance) Debris was hurled further a field. Cars and moped taxis burst into flames.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/10/14/1034222684262.html

An international team of Australian Federal Police, FBI, UK special agents, and forensic scientists started arriving in Bali within 24 hours of the blasts.
http://www.afp.gov.au/international/operations/previous_operations/bali_bombings_2002

The Indonesian public was outraged that foreign officials were investigating an Indonesian crime scene.
http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1139392002

10 days after the bombing, the international team of investigators with unlimited resources at their disposal announced… that they were wrapping up their on-site work and retreating to the labs to analyze their findings.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/yesterdaydetail.asp?fileid=20030103.D06

Wrecking balls were brought in to excavate the crater contents and other debrit which was then… dumped into the sea off Benoa harbour in southern Bali.
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/10/21/1034561449138.html

Immediately after the bombings, the Indonesian police announced that the FBI had discovered the plastic explosives, semtex and C4. The Scotsman reported that the… INDONESIAN investigators searching for links between the Bali nightclub attack and the al-Qaeda network were last night interrogating two men after an FBI forensic team found traces of sophisticated plastic explosives at the site of the bombing. Experts claimed they discovered traces of Semtex at the Sari Club
http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1143382002

The Age newspaper published an article a few days after the bombing entitled… Two questioned: C4 explosives found October 16 2002 Indonesia's national police chief, General Da'i Bachtiar, also said that an explosive known as C-4 had been identified from preliminary investigations.
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/10/16/1034561163876.html
 
One week later, investigators announced that the main explosive device was an Ammonium Nitrate bomb. The Australian Federal Police said that the bomb is now believed to have been built with ammonium nitrate fertiliser.
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/10/20/1034561389875.html

BRETT SWAN: Preliminary analysis of the possible explosive used in a vehicle in front of the Sari Club is a low velocity explosive, possibly ammonium nitrate mix and the experts believe it may have been somewhere between a hundred and a hundred and fifty kilos.
http://www.abc.net.au/am/stories/s707433.htm

Amazingly, the following month, ammonium nitrate evolved into a new chemical. BEN MCDEVITT: The bomb data specialists who are looking at it at the moment are starting to firm in on a conclusion which is tending towards chlorate as being the substantial ingredient.
http://www.abc.net.au/pm/stories/s722478.htm

Indonesian explosive expert, Colonel Zainuri Lubis, may have hinted at the absurdity of investigations saying that the main explosive was made out of Chlorate, black powder and TNT. TRANSLATION OF POLICEMAN: Chlorate, black powder and TNT.
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2003/transcripts/s780910.htm

As an explosive expert, Colonel Lubis knows that chlorate crystals cannot be mixed with black powder. Mixing these compounds would cause an immediate chemical reaction. The sharp chlorate crystals would create immense friction across the surface of the black powder particles, which would then react immediately by either burning furiously or exploding.
http://www.vialls.com/nuke/bali_micro_nuke.htm

Alleged discoveries of C4 and semtex were forgotten but they appeared to serve a purpose. ELEANOR HALL: So the police have confirmed C-4, where does that part of the investigation go now? PETER CAVE: Well, the C-4 tends to point a finger in certain directions. The Al Qaeda group has used C-4 in a number of its attacks. It was used in the bombing of the USS Cole, it was used in a bombing in the Philippines, and a number of other bombing related to Al Qaeda. It seems to point towards them.
http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/stories/s702879.htm

In November Investigators arrested Ali Amrozi, the owner of the Mitsubishi van allegedly carrying the main explosive device. Ali Amrozi, an illiterate mechanic, confessed to preparing the fertilizer chemicals delivered in the Mitsubishi van. Investigators claimed they tracked Amrozi by reconstructing fragments of the van, obtaining the Vehicle Identification Number stamped on the van’s axle.
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2003/transcripts/s780910.htm

Amrozi maintained that, quote… "If the explosion was truly from the chemicals that I prepared, it would not produce such a powerful explosion" he said.
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/07/14/1058034940815.html

Captain Rodney Cocks "I've done demolitions courses with the Army and it was bigger than anything I've ever blown up in my time, and I've done a bit."
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/03/107756.php

Investigators claimed Amrozi loaded the van with 3-400kg of chlorate.
http://www.abc.net.au/pm/stories/s732944.htm

The following year, the Australian Federal Police committed to a Potassium chlorate bomb.
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2003/s774228.htm

Jakarta Post’s Senior Editor Robert S. Finnegan published this piece on January 3rd, 2003. Entitled… Bali bombing: An investigator's analysis
http://www.geocities.com/seanews1/JP/BaliBombing.html

The best comparative example of a car bombing in a populated area was the 1998 Omagh car bombing. The Omagh explosive was a 225kg Ammonium nitrate and fuel oil bomb. Ammonium nitrate and fuel oil also known as ANFO has twice the maximum force of potassium chlorate. The 225kg ANFO car bomb caused serious damage to adjacent buildings. However, only caused minor damage to buildings and vehicles in a 50 metre radius. 29 people were killed; the majority of deaths were caused by shrapnel. All of the bodies were visibly identifiable. 220 people were injured in the blast giving a 12% rate of fatality. No crater remained.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/953620.stm

ABDURRAHMAN WAHID: Amrozi was involved in the lighter bomb. That's a problem always. Even though I agree that he should be given a stiff punishment, but it doesn't mean that he is involved. No, no, no. REPORTER: So you believe that the Bali bombers had no idea that there was a second bomb? ABDURRAHMAN WAHID: Yeah, precisely.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0510/S00223.htm

Just before a nuclear device goes critical, or in other words, just before it explodes, an electromagnetic pulse is emitted. This produces an electromagnetic shockwave which can overload electrical circuits in the perimeter.
http://www.fas.org/nuke/intro/nuke/emp.htm
 
Captain Rodney Cocks: “Then the power cut...all the power went out. I didn't think bomb. I didn't think anything at that stage. And then, probably, I'd say two seconds later, there was just the huge flash”
http://www.defence.gov.au/news/armynews/editions/1062/topstories/story01.htm

BEN TULLIPAN: I just basically remembered convulsing, like I was being electrocuted. Just shaking and shaking and I couldn't...I couldn't stop it. I couldn't stop. ADAM WRIGHT: All's it felt like was being in a tunnel, um, with no...with no hearing.
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2003/transcripts/s946351.htm

Anna Nishida: After the second bang, it sounded like 100 rats racing all over the place. The sound seemed to get louder and quieter and it was all over the place. About five seconds after the second bang, we heard the shattering of glass.
http://abc.net.au/news/indepth/featureitems/s700690.htm

Just metres from the injured in Denpasar Hospital, Bali, more than 150 mostly completely burned bodies are lying on every surface in the white-tiled morgue. A crowd of Indonesian men shuffle through, faces impassive above their shirts which they have tugged up to cover their noses to block the smell of charred flesh. Many of the bodies and body parts are unrecognisable. Flesh has burned through to bone. Many of the corpses are locked in poses of fear - arms in front of faces, or curled up in a foetal position in a futile attempt to escape the flames. Just one face is identifiable among all the bodies. She is white with shoulder length sandy blonde hair wearing a pink and yellow striped top and a chunky silver and copper watch. She faces the ceiling, one eye open.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/10/14/1034222685390.html

In one small Balinese village, Kampong, seven empty coffins were laid to rest.
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/03/107756.php

BEN TULLIPAN: There were a lot of pieces of people...beside me, like they'd been torn off. JOHN GOLOTTA: Oh...just...just body parts. People's eyelids blown off, staring at you. Just one guy laying on the ground with his intestines strewn all over him.
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2003/transcripts/s946351.htm

"We ran down to help, but there were so many people in the street, burned, injured or dead. One woman had lost the whole bottom half of her body. A man was crawling up the lane. He had no feet."
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/10/14/1034222684262.html

Some poor bugger was laying right on the corner and one of his legs was gone. He was just saying . . . 'what's going to happen to me?' BRUCE BAKER, of the Gold Coast
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/10/13/1034222681245.html

Haji "Bambang" Prianto: There were people with their chests ripped open, and I could see straight into them, and see their hearts still pounding.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/03/1064988382131.html

I saw limbs lying on the ground. I got to the stage where I couldn't film any more because it made me feel physically ill. I've never seen anything like it in 12 years of reporting. RICHARD POORE, New Zealand TV director
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/10/13/1034222681245.html

DR DIDER PALMER: It wasn't only burns injuries, although everyone was burnt. These were blast injuries, so explosion injuries. All the burns were complicated by that because there was debris embedded in the skin, but also blow out injuries - for example, exploded lungs. Everyone had exploded tympanic membranes, burst bowel, amputation injuries and also partial surgery from Bali where the doctors and nurses there had done really very remarkable things. So we were picking up people a little bit along the line.
http://sunday.ninemsn.com.au/sunday/feature_stories/transcript_1414.asp

DR. PETER HAERTSCH: No, I've never in 22 years of burns surgery come across anything like this. Concord Hospital, Sydney
http://www.abc.net.au/pm/stories/s702138.htm

In 2005, New Mexico Tech's Energetic Materials Research and Testing Center simulated the omagh car bomb loading a 1987 Toyota Celica with 225kg Ammonium nitrate and fuel oil. The vehicle was completely wiped out,… it left no crater.
http://www.emrtc.nmt.edu/

In the USA Television series “mythbusters”, they detonated a CEMENT truck full of explosives. It was completely wiped out. It left no crater.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkP28DFnHqU

*At 80 PSI overpressure: Even heavily reinforced concrete is heavily damaged. Skulls are crushed, fatalities are total. *At 20 PSI: Heavily built concrete buildings are severely damaged and demolished. Fatalities approach 100%. At 10 PSI, the maximum overpressure force of C4: Reinforced concrete buildings are severely damaged. Severe lung and heart damage occurs. Limbs can be blown off. At 4 PSI, the maximum overpressure force of Ammonium nitrate: Most buildings collapse, except for concrete reinforced buildings. Injuries are universal, fatalities occur. At 2 PSI, the maximum overpressure force of Potassium chlorate: Residential structures collapse. Brick walls are destroyed. Serious injuries are common. Fatalities may occur. At 1 PSI overpressure: Window glass shatters. Light injuries from fragments occur.
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2007/05/145335.php

RDX which is almost identical to C4 has a maximum overpressure force of 10PSI. Ammonium nitrate and fuel oil can reach 4PSI. And Pottasium Chlorate has a maximum overpressure force of 2PSI.
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2007/05/145335.php

Deputy House Speaker A. M. Fatwa stated, "My conscience says that he is not a key actor. I don't believe that Amrozi has the capability to make all kinds of preparations for the bombings, like setting off a kind of nuclear bomb in Bali."
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/03/107756.php

Robert Finnegan posted this statement from his website… I was the lead investigator and Senior Editor for The Jakarta Post on the Bali bombings. Shortly after my analysis was printed, I was sacked at the order of U.S. Ambassador Ralph Boyce … The Ambassador REFUSED to answer my question - yes or no - as to U.S. involvement. My journalist visa was then cancelled and I was forced out of the country despite being married to an Indonesian national. Inquiries are welcome. Robert S. Finnegan Managing Editor South East Asia News
http://www.seanews.2truth.com/

http://simplyappalling.blogspot.com/2005/07/silencing-of-american-journalist.html

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=11173369&blogID=34968730&Mytoken=20050708024711

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FROM: http://archive.org/details/Fool_Me_Twice
FOOL ME TWICE
http://www.myspace.com/foolmetwicethemovie

This well-crafted, well-documented film from Australia exposes the 2002 Bali Bombings as yet another case of False Flag Terror.

Using a formula that has worked so well for the Loose Change crew, the filmmaker has crafted a very watchable piece that flows well, with interesting visuals, a soundtrack that moves from hip to emotionally engaging, and most importantly, and most damaging of all to the powers that be... the Truth.

"Fool Me Twice" examines well-known examples of False Flag terror, and adds an excellent new sequence about the 1993 World Trade Center bombing that leaves the viewer with no doubt that Emad Salem was a controlled asset. Utilizing audio that features Salem covertly recorded while talking with FBI agent John Anticev, "Fool Me Twice" cuts to the chase regarding the 1993 bombing, and goes deeper, examining the CIA's links to this milieu.

The Bali bombings are dissected with a healthy dose of newly gathered evidence that shows what the real effects of ANFO car bombs are, what they do, and what they don't do, like leave massive craters. The film argues that this is from high-intensity military-grade explosives, which the authorities declare were not used. At least not anymore. At first they claimed that Semtex and C4 were identified, but this didn't fit the official story in the hopper, which required that the bombers be tied to the purchase of ANFO making materials. This analysis of the bombing is brilliant indeed. (In a short but unfortunate detour, the film explores evidence that some sort of nuclear device may have been used, however, no physical evidence is produced that could definitively prove that a nuclear device was used. This small detour is something of a waste of time in my opinion, although the segment in question is well done. Please don't let this stop you from examining this film, skip over the segment if you wish, but this documentary is important and should not be overlooked. At the very least check out this report cited in the documentary by Robert S. Finnegan.)

The film closely examines the Jemaah Islamiyah and it's links to the CIA and other intelligence agencies that used this radical group. A very welcome and valuable analysis. This film reveals extensive connections between JI, the Bali Bombings and military and intelligence circles.

I rank this film among the most important and valuable of the year, packed with valuable information, bolstered by new analyses, and accompanied by a familiar pattern: violent extremists are targeted, infiltrated, aided, and ultimately directed by the very intelligence services that should be protecting innocent civilians from the extremists.

The Bali bombings were used to usher in tons of "anti-terror" legislation in Australia. Highly recommended viewing.

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Below is the Press Release from the film-maker;

BALI BOMBINGS COVER-UP: New documentary

Released on Youtube and Googlevideo this week, FOOL ME TWICE, exposes the cover-up of the Bali bombings and provides evidence that it was a Falseflag Operation.

The film begins by documenting the Australian government’s prior knowledge of the Indonesian military’s plan to use violence to maintain autonomy over East Timor. Contrary to The Howard Governments claims they argued against peacekeeping forces allowing the Indonesian Special Forces to carry out their campaign of fear and suppression.

Within 24 hours of the 2002 Bali bombings a team of FBI, UK special agents and Australian federal police started arriving in Bali. The investigation team continuously claimed different explosive devices were responsible for the main blast. Days after the attacks, Indonesian Police Chief, General Dai’ Bachtier, announced that the FBI had discovered C4 pointing the blame towards Jemaah Islamiah, JI (“SE Asia wing of Al qaeda”). Eventually, investigators concluded that the main explosive device was a potassium chlorate car bomb. C4 was never included in final reports.

The main explosive device was so powerful it seriously damaged buildings in a 2/400 metre radius and left a 1 metre deep, 10 metre wide crater. 202 people perished in the blasts, the majority incinerated from the main explosive device. Investigators quickly excavated the crater contents and dumped the remaining debris off the coast of southern Bali, including completely stripped concrete reinforcing bars. Potassium chlorate is a low velocity explosive and does not have the overpressure force to create a 1 metre deep crater or completely incinerate humans, let alone strip concrete. Only a high-tech explosive device has the power to strip concrete.

FBI claims of C4 announced by General Dai’ Bachtier, ensured Jemaah Islamiah was immediately blamed for the Bali bombings. All prior intelligence of the Bali bombings came from so called JI leader, Omar Al-Faruq. Omar Al-Faruq was secretly handed over to the US by Indonesia months prior to the bombings under the CIA’s extraordinary rendition program. Australian intelligence agencies reported that intelligence obtained from captured “JI suspect”, Omar Al-Faruq, warned of possible terrorist attacks in Bali. After the attacks the Bush administration denied access to Al-Faruq for questioning in the Bali bombing trials. When Omar Al-Faruq was suddenly called by US court to provide evidence in a trial of another terrorist suspect – he had “escaped high security prison”. No JI leaders have ever been brought to trial.

Prior to the Bali bombings the Indonesian government denied the existence of terrorists within Indonesia and opposed US anti-terror operations in Afghanistan. After the bombings President Megawati signed a joint statement – “Agreeing that terrorism poses a continued threat to international peace and security, and that the two Presidents are committed to enhancing their bilateral cooperation in the fight against terrorism”. The Bush administration provided funds to the Indonesian police and military and setup a national terrorism unit under the control of national police chief, General Dai’ Bachtier.

Youtube:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=n1tLO87vzNQ

Googlevideo:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2246973658225588456
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So I wonder why it was so important to get Indonesia under NWO control?
The government rejected the "terrorists are everywhere" fear-mongering.
Until the bombing in Bali.
A false-flag without a doubt, and one that subsequently enabled the NWO to fully set up shop in Indonesia.

Why Indonesia (as opposed to say, Malasia, or some other country? Why Indonesia, where there is no oil?

For one thing, they had to set up the controls to manage the information coming out of Indonesia, and they started this by false-flagging it to bring them into submission. They were not supposed to reject the notion of "global terrorism" after 911. They were supposed to embrace the NWO's offer to 'outfit them' with all the latest technology to handle the (non-existent) terror. But they didn't go for it.

So, ok, these refuseniks got false-flagged in Bali, and then, realizing they would have to submit, or face further bombings (or worse), they joined the cabal.

But why Indonesia?

I think because in the 'long plan', the planned use of the Manchurian Candidate (looming in 2008, only 6 years away in 2002), they had to get control of a major information source in order to control the 'message' that would come out of Indonesia when it was time to launch the puppet. And so they moved into Indonesia and set up the control grid, ensuring that all information in and coming out of Indonesia would be "managed". 

This was a pre-planning effort to establish a base in Indonesia, a key agenda item prior to the 2008 elections. And what did we get? A 'managed' release of information in the years following the election. Nothing too damaging; the candidate is safe.

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Comment from democratic underground:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x57475

"And there are so many false flag operations and intrigues there that it's not even funny. People focus in on these Bali bombings, but in fact there are thousands killed in violence every year, and usually the police or military are behind it in one way or another. Corruption and violence is endemic. Human life means little. For instance, a couple of years back you may recall some particularly gruesome violence on the island of Borneo between the native locals and recent migrants from other islands that killed thousands. It literally took the military a week to arrive, despite them having a task force that can get to trouble spots in hours. A classic LIHOP (let it happen on purpose), because letting the violence play out served the military's political purposes at the time. Then, once the military finally got there, they did next to nothing to stop the violence. In fact, the only gunfight turned out to be between the police and military as the two forces fought over the "right" to fleece people at the port who were trying to flee the island of their remaining possessions.

It's really, really tragic. The bizarre and conspiratorial is common place. For instance, in the town I was living in on Java, shortly after I left there was a wave of "ninja" killings. People dressed in ninja robes would arrive to someone's house in the middle of the night, kill somebody, then disappear. It was so professionally done, none of the killers were ever caught. No one could figure out the pattern of who was being killed or why. After some months, the wave of deaths came to a complete halt, and no one could figure out why that happened, either. This kind of thing is very typical, and 99% of the time, violence in remote Indonesian locales never reaches the Western papers. For instance, in my area thre was a typically unexplained wave of violence where a whole bunch of churches were burned down. But this didn't even reach the local papers, thanks to censorship (however, I saw the burned churches myself).

Hell, sometimes even violence right in the middle of Jakarta doesn't get reported. Back in the 1980's, a non-Muslim policeman entered a mosque and didn't take his shoes off. Locals were pissed and beat him up. The police came back in force and basically indiscriminately killed dozens of people in the neighborhood. I had a friend whose father happened to be at his house at the time (and oblivious about what had happened at the mosque). The father was shot in the chest. He survived, but just barely since he was too afraid to go to the hospital (figuring the police would show up and kill off the wounded, which is something they sometimes do). Even though this happened in a middle class neighborhood in the middle of Jakarta, the whole thing was hushed up.

Sometimes it gets downright tragi-comic. For instance, there was one particularly obvious false flag operation in the province of Irian Jaya a few years back. The government blamed the incident on the previously unheard of terror group which they called "Gerakan Tanpa Bentuk" which roughly translates as Group Without Shape, or the Amorphous Blob Group. As if any terror organization would ever call themselves that! True to their name, they had no known motive, demands, ideology, or membership. There was a lot of black humor about this group, as pretty much all my neighbors could see it was obviously the military trying very badly to pin their greedy actions on a non-existent enemy. (One cause of violence: the military and police run protection rackets and kill families who don't pay up.)

I feel very sorry for that country and the people in it. The ordinary folks are always getting screwed.

I learned a lot while I was there. For one thing, I find the idea that governments won't kill their own people for political gain to be laughable. I'm sorry for the naive Americans who think that we're somehow special or different and that what happens in places like Indonesia could never happen here."