Teenagers in UK attack police officers who asked girl to pick up litter

[Aaron]

Teenagers attack police officers who asked girl to pick up litter

Pair kicked to the ground in front of shoppers

 

Two police officers who asked a teenager to pick up some litter she had dropped were attacked by a mob in a suburban high street and punched, kicked, slapped and bitten.

Witnesses said that the two male officers had to use batons to fight off about 30 teenagers who had kicked them to the ground. But two men then joined the attack, one of whom punched an officer in the face, as they shouted insults at the officers.

The extraordinary scene took place in the middle of the afternoon in a high street in Croydon, South London. Local shopkeepers said that the area was plagued by youths and gangs fighting and causing trouble.

The teenager picked up the fast-food wrapper when she was asked – but immediately dropped it on the ground again, the Metropolitan Police said. As the girl and a friend became aggressive towards the officers, a crowd of youths began to grow outside Woolworth’s.

Laven Karim, 19, who works at a nearby shoe shop, said: “All of a sudden, punches were thrown and all the yobs got involved. The girls were biting and kicking. It was disgusting.”

Witnesses said that the crowd kicked the officers on the ground, and the police responded with batons.

At this point, bystanders joined the attack, telling the officers that they “should not attack little girls”.

Then, “one of these older men punched an officer in the face and knocked him to the ground”, said Adeel Ramjaun, 21, an optician. “The crowd had made a semicircle around the officers. It looked like a gladiatorial ring. They were shouting and swearing at the officer. I was gobsmacked. How often do you see a police officer being punched in the face?”

Witnesses also claimed that at one point police used pepper spray on one of the girls.

Police confirmed yesterday that a 15-year-old girl had been arrested at the scene on suspicion of assault, and had been bailed pending further inquiries. Two men aged 34 and 38, both from South Norwood, were also arrested on suspicion of assault and violent disorder. Police have appealed to the public to assist their inquiries, and detectives were examining closed-circuit television footage.

The two officers, aged 34 and 29, are on sick leave suffering from bruising and knee injuries. The 34-year-old officer required hospital treatment for a bite wound.

Speaking on BBC London Radio yesterday, he said that he had feared for his life and called for urgent assistance as the violence broke out.

He said: “She just threw litter on the floor and we asked if she could pick that up. As we walked away, she threw it at us. Then we went back to talk to her. You don’t arrest these people for such a minor offence; it is a complete waste of time.

“It is just amazing and it depresses you, the state of children today – the disrespect, not only for people who might not be in the police but anyone who is older.”

Yesterday there was minimal police presence in the pedestrianised high street. Groups of teenagers in school uniform could be seen walking up and down at various points throughout the day, despite it being a school day.

Local people claimed that the area was plagued by gangs and that young people could identify which gang a youth was in by the colours they wore and the style of their trainers. Retailers said that they often faced trouble from youths milling around outside shops after school and fighting.

Handrit Kukaj, 21, who works in Aldo clothes store in the high street, said: “We get loads of trouble here, especially on Thursdays, when there is late-night shopping. The main problem is the fighting between the different schools.” Reza Joody, 36, who runs a local shoe shop, said: “The kids do whatever they want around here, stealing and shoplifting. They come in the shop and damage and scratch the shoes. What can we say to them? They’re kids.”


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article4360315.ece

[Capt. Obvious]

 

[HiQConsoul]

lol 5-0 got ownd...


pathetic that the police are making people pick up litter

pathetic that the litter was picked up and then dropped back on the ground to provoke

pathetic that this started a fight

pathetic that the police was kicked while down

pathetic that there were what? 30 vs 2?

pathetic that this is gonna make the youths in question seem as if they're hardcore criminals for denying to pick up what was probably a mars bar wrapping the officers could've picked up themselves and if really needed write a ticket to the young girl (assuming littering is a fine-able offense ofc) and let that be that.

a piece of f**king paper you say? pathetic ...


but I must admit, for enforcing police state doctrine they got what they had coming - smiting!

[TruthHunter]

Go chavs go!

[UpsetBrit]

I wish the officers a speedy recovery.

[JonTheSavage]

What goes around comes around.

Hey Jackboot! YEah boy!, Get down there, and pick it up with your teeth! Yeah jackboot, squirm boy, squirm. Whos your master now mr jackboot! Those 30 kids just kicked your ass mr jackboot, what you gonna do about it uh boy? 

This reminds me of the scene on V for Vendetta, when the cops shot the little girl, and the neighborhood came out, and kicked their sorry asses.

[MooseHunter]

In some middle-eastern countries and pakistan, police officers won't normally stop a car for search, in some cases even if you have contravened some traffic regulations, if there is a woman in that car. Believe you me, whatever people say about these societies and their treatment of their women, you simply don't stop, talk, look, at somebody else's female family members. I am talking about those women who are clad from head to toe with the "islamic" dress code. Been there, seen that. Unbelievable.

I would suspect that that incident must have involved some people from those cultures..

I still believe that in any society, there seems to be that kind of feeling, chivalry they call it, where you are respectful towards the ladies, much less bossing them around.. I would know it if some goons were on a power trip, especially if they were, as Alex says, lesser men(!), just by looking at their faces and their demeanor..

[esquared]

People are getting tired of Johnny Law being in their face over everything . I really don't blame them as I know how bad things are over there .

[scary]

 

[Dok]

Mall cops, figures.

[Aaron]

I wish the officers a speedy recovery.

Yeah! lol, as I'm sure we all do...... 

[Boubear]

People are getting tired of Johnny Law being in their face over everything . I really don't blame them as I know how bad things are over there .

That's what I was going to say too.  I'm sure they are sick and tired of being given tickets for every little thing.  Wasn't there an article here about someone being searched just for having their hands in their pockets.

If people start feeling like they are being attacked on every turn, they will revolt and will fight back!!

[TruthHunter]

They probably weren't even real cops. They were probably those community patrol guys, whatever the heck they call them over there, who go around in the fluorescent vests hassling people and calling the real cops if they actually find someone doing something wrong.

[XR500Final]

There is a balance between a society that does not require people to be told to clean up after themselves, versus a police state were you are told how to do everything...  Obviously the pendulum is swinging hard in one direction...

[chris jones]

The paper as far as I'm concerned is not the issue, call it worng, call it right , it doesn't matter.

What does is people are sick and tired of being dominated by politicians who have them under their thumb. I see this as one example of the shape of things to come.

Its too bad a couple of cops took the beating instead of the PM and his lackeys.

[CosmicChimp]

If the girl were not forced into picking up the trash she had thrown down, then she could have littered and thereby created a new job for an enterprising person that collects litter from off of the ground around the mall.

In Italy now you cannot eat outside in public around the popular tourist spots. No ice cream or anything else. The polizia stop you and fine you on the spot 50 EUs.

You will be forced to "behave," forced to conform in this society no matter what you may be interested in doing. The standards have and will be raised to whatever level you can physically bear. And then beyond what you may be able to take.

[Dok]

[birgit]

Its too bad a couple of cops took the beating instead of the PM and his lackeys.

Yeah, we the sheep tend to just bite the
'shepherds' instead of the butchers.

I think we are missing a much bigger picture here.
Maybe this incident will be used like the school shooting
over here, and maybe it was even instigated?
Just wondering... nothing like this happens without a purpose.
Come on- people fed up and fight back, right, in who's dream?
We take it and take it, until we're a the communal shower stalls.

[Aaron]

See, this is it with the UK, we're not like the Americans, we don't speak our voices, we don't go out and protest - even on local issues.. we're like the quiet guy at the end of the bar, we'll only take so much and then erupt like madmen. If they keep pushing (which they will), the whole country will erupt.. and the world will follow.

Chris, I don't think it was instigated, more like a lawless part of town where they'd had enough..

[changedname]

But let us not forget that those who chose to carry out these orders against their own people are the small minion's of these tyrant's which is what gives power to the tyrant's and without them they have no power at all! So, maybe you just have to ensure they are put into their rightful place  in order to show the tyrant's that you will not submit to their dicataorship! When these people choose to work for the tyrant's they do become accomplices in the dictatorship and are not innocent by a long shot!  If they had half a brain they should know not to treat their fellow citizens harshly and disrespectfully and if they do then they have to pay the price for their deeds also don't they?

[thadividedsky]

LMAO. Stupid pigs got their butts handed to them. They deserved it, no matter what the story is. Hey cops who're reading this, how much longer do you think you can get away with your nazi stasi tactics before we the people hunt you down and dish out our own justice? When martial law comes, who do you think our guns will be drawn on? the govt.? The troops? HA, no, it'll be you jackboot bastards. The scum will put YOU on the frontline with us first and you better believe it, we will NOT give quarter or give you a chance in court. We'll remember the people you gunned down for no reason, the people you tasered to death and the people you beat senseless for no reason, how're you gonna like it when we return your so-called justice? You've been out of control for far too long and we will get our justice, when the time comes you better choose to either be on their side, or our side. Tell me, which is a better choice? If I were a jackboot nazi like them, I'd do the smart thing and leave the force, because wearing the uniform in a martial law situation will be a bullseye. LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC

[level1online]

Always remember:

Problem, Reaction, Solution.

[Dok]

I'm glad the cops had there batons to protect themselves with. I wonder what will happen when the kids start fighting back with there own batons/clubs. They should outlaw batons and clubs and sticks and rocks and words and...

[thadividedsky]

Well don't forget that the UK is trying to ban knives in public. I can't see how that's possible to enforce, but I s**t you not. I even saw a report on ABC about it and I couldn't hold back a laugh.

[Wintermute]

Guys, this story doesn't even make sense.  Think about what it alleges...  Cops stop a girl and tell her to pick up litter - she throws it at them - a mob attacks Cops.   There's no way that "a mob" of sheeple would attack cops who were talking to a girl.   We're obviously getting the cops version of what happened in this story.
In reality, the cops must have used some some kind of force on the girl to make her comply - enough to anger bystanders so much that they'd try to rescue her.

[Dok]

They probably tasered her, oh wait no taser's over there.

[JEH]

That would not have happened if people were not getting sick of UK police state stunts.

[UK Lyn]

Guys, this story doesn't even make sense.  Think about what it alleges...  Cops stop a girl and tell her to pick up litter - she throws it at them - a mob attacks Cops.   There's no way that "a mob" of sheeple would attack cops who were talking to a girl.   We're obviously getting the cops version of what happened in this story.
In reality, the cops must have used some some kind of force on the girl to make her comply - enough to anger bystanders so much that they'd try to rescue her.

To be fair guys... I was a cop for 20 years over here... I can assure you they aren't all fascist-minded and many were as rebellious as I was, deeply resenting the implementation of 'terrorism' laws for 'general' use against the public.  Arrest quotas are also resented by the vast majority of rank-and-file officers; Cops know that if they give someone a fine, say for not wearing a seatbelt, they will as payback lose a potential friend and witness there for life, but the bosses don't give a shit and want the targets.

As for these teens that beat the officers. Some of these gangs have de-evolved back to sub-feral levels, where a gang members' worth is measured by how many people's heads you kick-in.  They seem to worship the talk, mannerisms and violence of other races' culture.  They are not all 'oppressed by the police', let's not lose sight of the fact that although some cops are bastards, some gangs of kids are FAR f**king worse and will knife you soon as look at you. Not all, just some, same as cops.

[Cruise4]

No, the cops are far worse. The kids have been poisoned and oppressed into behaving as they do. What's the cop's excuse?

This is the bit you don't seem to get...

"Arrest quotas are also resented by the vast majority of rank-and-file officers"

STOP DOING THE BLOODY QUOTAS THEN... it's not rocket science, it's rolling over to have your belly tickled... tell them to stick there quotas up their asses!

Personal responsibility.... get it?

[Aaron]

They probably tasered her, oh wait no taser's over there.

Nah, we've got those here now.

How I see it, we should have just as much protection as the police, if they get to carry batons, so should we. If they get to carry tasers, so should we (they are banned here in the UK). If they get to carry guns (police in my part of town do), so should we..

[SieraAlpha80]

 

Pigs are in our faces here to much, CCTV everywhere and i meen everywhere......

[UK Lyn]

No, the cops are far worse. The kids have been poisoned and oppressed into behaving as they do. What's the cop's excuse?

This is the bit you don't seem to get...

"Arrest quotas are also resented by the vast majority of rank-and-file officers"

STOP DOING THE BLOODY QUOTAS THEN... it's not rocket science, it's rolling over to have your belly tickled... tell them to stick there quotas up their asses!

Personal responsibility.... get it?

Cops 'excuse' for what?  You seem to filling in the blanks here without evidence they did anything wrong that day.

These gang members (two of whom were adults over 30), poisoned by what? Most kids I know from poor neighbourhoods are great and wouldn't ever do what that lot did.  Like I said some cops are bad, but to tar them all with the same brush is crazy, too polarized a view.

[Real Truth]

I for one dont like cops but just because he asked her to pick up a paper.... is a retarded reason to beat him up for pathetic gangs

[Aaron]

I for one dont like cops but just because he asked her to pick up a paper.... is a retarded reason to beat him up for pathetic gangs

Do you really think you're getting the whole story here..?? I mean, it's 'the times'.

[Cruise4]

"without evidence they did anything wrong that day"

The evidence is 'they are cops'. Some of us have seen these establishment goons operating for years and years as their pavlov dog type training takes a hold. Drug war, NWO, you name it. These so called police are quite happy to arrest kids for nothing whilst their superiors get away with murder, genocide and worse. The whole 'service' is a total joke. They are a bunch of mob enforcer's and that's all they are. If someone tells me to arrest a kid for a joint I say NO. That's all the difference is and why 'the police' will deserve every last kicking and worse coming their way. Cops know who their corrupt colleagues are and do nothing, There are NO innocent cops... they are cops! Leave the profession or take the just rewards. Cops are gangsters. It's just some cannot put two and two together.

It's like the rubbish police or community support officers or whatever the current propoganda term is. I would tell anyone who tries to get me rutting through someone else's rubbish to take a running jump. By being a part you 'make' it happen. Everyone is too chickenshit to say NO, I'm not doing it.

[Cruise4]

Yes. Now you are getting it, total non-co-operation!

Insider cops are OK due to current circumstances. But when the SS are walking towards you you don't start picking and choosing who to shoot. If they wear the uniform...


And when you go into the social history a bit more hopefully you will come to realise that the rubbish thing is just another manipulation like everything else. But your answer is a great example of the 'Reaction' part of Problem Reaction Solution. Still working nicely for them, even here it seems.

[chris jones]

I feel a need to get back into this. We need people to enforce laws that rotect citizens, not to jump on some kid with an attitude. Strange, yes, and incomplete story.

The climate created by the PM and his loyalists represents a police state atmosphere. The high ranking cops are not going to stray from the masters decission, therfor the street cops are put on the line.

I sincerly beleive the Brits are sick and tired of the police state being forced on them. Thats what may be behind this incident in part.
I was a cop years ago, gave it up,  more curruption in the force.
This was 35 years back. They , the brotherhood knew me, let kids go, bring em home to their folks for dope, get them help, don't give youngsters a record , give them a chance. i wasn't well liked by my Captain. I know who gives a twit, but what I'm saying here is there is good and bad in everything, I resist labeling all cops bad.
I wish I knew the whole story here about the girl and her paper on the ground. Seems kinda one sided, the Brits I worked with would have jumped these two had they laid a hand on a girl, did they? The story is incomplete it seems to me..
But the bottom line  is the Brit. Gov. is using human beings to fullfill their agenda. Sure some are sadistic arsehooles, we all know that, some are corrupt criminals, and then some are brainwashed. BUT I feel sorry for some poor individual who joined the force to make a better world for the cits. they are up against the brotherhood and the pols. He doesn't have a chance in hell, he will surely suffer. My advise, get out now before you have no way out.
My son visited the states, he was having a cigarete in the parking lot of a supermarket, and two security cops told him to put out the cig. He thought they were joking, and they got very pushy and loud threatening a fine or arrest. He went along with them but couldn't beleive it.
Anyway, to any cop out there with a conscience, can you see where all this is heading, your the lackeys for the power and they will order you to turn on the cits. , or loose your job, or be ostracized.
The worlds turning and so are our governments, not for the better I may add. You soon will be putting your neck on the line for the Government, not for the protection of the citizens.

Protect and serve use to be the basis of law enforcement so they say, it is hardly that anymore. Its a tough break for those guys who want to keep the cits safe, and they exist.
It will become a decission, for the Gov. and against the cit. or visa versa, the choice is yours.
For me, there are far to many cops who have a badge and gun and loose their shiite in the fact its power over the commoner.

[Tactics]

Do you really think you're getting the whole story here..?? I mean, it's 'the times'.

let the truth be spoken