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« on: July 16, 2008, 07:09:55 PM »

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/16/AR2008071601539.html?rss

Genetic Trait Boosts AIDS Risks in Blacks

WEDNESDAY, July 16 (HealthDay News) -- New research suggests that people of African descent are much more likely to have a genetic trait that makes them more susceptible to infection with the HIV virus.

Scientists estimate that the trait -- which also provides protection against a form of malaria -- might account for 11 percent of the HIV cases in Africa, the continent hardest hit by the AIDS epidemic.

Overall, the finding shows how the past history of evolution and disease still affects people today, said study co-author Matthew J. Dolan, of the Wilford Hall United States Air Force Medical Center and San Antonio Military Medical Center. "The benefit that the Africans got from a mutation that gave them some resistance to malaria has, statistically at least, rendered them some increased susceptibility to HIV," he said.
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Researchers have spent years trying to understand why some people who are exposed to the AIDS virus don't get infected. An estimated 70 percent to 90 percent of children born to infected mothers don't develop the disease, and some gay men have avoided it despite repeated exposure.

In the new study, a team of researchers studied more than 1,200 members of the U.S. military who became infected with HIV. They wanted to discover more about how genetics affects the disease.

The findings were published in the July 17 issue ofCell Host & Microbe.

The researchers found that a genetic trait -- found in 60 percent of African-Americans and 90 percent of Africans -- makes HIV infection 40 percent more likely. The trait is virtually nonexistent in whites.

The trait also protects people against a form of malaria that is now uncommon.

It appears that the genetic makeup of some Africans evolved to give them protection against the form of malaria, Dolan said. Unfortunately, the trait ultimately "set up the African continent for increased susceptibility" to HIV, he said.

Dolan estimated that the increased susceptibility could account for millions of extra cases of HIV.

On the other hand, people who have the trait live an average of two years longer with the disease once they get it, the researchers found. "It's a two-edged sword," said study co-author Dr. Sunil K. Ahuja, a professor at the University of Texas Health Science Center in San Antonio.

Rowena Johnston, vice president of research with the Foundation for AIDS Research, said the new finding provides even more evidence of an evolutionary struggle between humans and disease. But it won't be easy to make the information useful.

"Since any one individual has tens of thousands of genes, each of which may influence susceptibility in one direction or another, it's difficult to predict the outcome for any individual with any one particular genotype," she said.

Even if Africans or African-Americans discover they have this particular genetic trait, "What would they do with the information?" she asked.

As for using the new finding to develop a new anti-AIDS drug, that may be difficult because of the limited effect of the genetic trait, she said.

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Learn more about HIV and genetics from The Body.

SOURCES: Matthew J. Dolan, M.D., researcher, Wilford Hall United States Air Force Medical Center and San Antonio Military Medical Center; Sunil K. Ahuja, M.D., professor, University of Texas Health Science Center in San Antonio; Rowena Johnston, Ph.D., vice president, research, Foundation for AIDS Research, New York City. July 17, 2008,Cell Host & Microbe
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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2008, 07:11:15 PM »

WEDNESDAY, July 16 (HealthDay News) -- New research suggests that people of African descent are much more likely to have a genetic trait that makes them more susceptible to infection with the HIV virus.

What do they mean by more susceptible?
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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2008, 07:13:40 PM »

What do they mean by more susceptible?


Everyone is susceptible to some degree, Africans are MORE susceptible.

Or am I missing something here?
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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2008, 07:20:49 PM »

Everyone is susceptible to some degree, Africans are MORE susceptible.

Or am I missing something here?


If a white person uses a dirty needle with HIV on it and a black guy uses the same needle, how would the black guy get HIV and the white not?

I thought once you contracted the virus (no matter how small of a amount) you are infected for life.
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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2008, 07:43:22 PM »


If a white person uses a dirty needle with HIV on it and a black guy uses the same needle, how would the black guy get HIV and the white not?

I thought once you contracted the virus (no matter how small of a amount) you are infected for life.
It works like this. HIV needs to get into your cells and manage to replicate inside of the blood cells, but this is very difficult for the virus, this doesn't just happen automatically. But HIV mutates very fast, because the virus doesn't proofread, so it can create a lot of different variant of itself one of which may manage to copy itself in your body, while another may not. You can actually get HIV viruses in your body without getting the disease, and your body will just take care of it. Only 9000 out of 10000 contaminated blood transfusions spread the virus for example, because some people are simply immune, the virus can't replicate in their body (yet), because of certains genes they have. But take a look at this major coincidence. Not only do all blacks have genes that coincidentally make them more susceptible to HIV, even African Americans, who are of mixed heritage, but some peope have a mutation which makes the virus unable to replicate in their body. And guess what, out of all people, the gene is most common in Northern Europeans.
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/1850/article.html
British Genes Resist AIDS

    Six hundred and fifty years ago, the Black Death was stalking Europe. It arrived on ships from Asia, carried by fleas that had infected rats on board the ships. Before it burned itself out, the epidemic had killed about a third of the European population.

    Today, another plague - AIDS - has ravaged the world. Although it seems very different from the Black Death, there is one eerie similarity. Both the Black Death bacteria, Yersinia pestis, and HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, home in on macrophages, which are scavenger white blood cells of the immune system.

    Now, in a provocative report, scientists at the National Cancer Institute in Frederick, Md., say they have found that a genetic mutation that protects against the AIDS virus, by preventing the virus from entering macrophages, emerged in Europe around the time of the Black Death. And, they have found, this AIDS resistance gene is astonishingly common in people whose ancestors lived in areas of Europe that were ravaged by the Black Death.

    The HIV resistance gene destroys a protein, called CCR5, that pokes out of the surface of macrophages, the large white blood cells that can engulf and kill viruses and bacteria.

    Scientists have discovered that when HIV infects a person, the virus goes straight to the white blood cells and in particular the macrophages, latches onto CCR5 and another protein, CD4, to hoist itself inside.
    It lives there for about a decade, throwing off billions of genetic variants. Eventually it makes a variant that can get into another type of white blood cell, the T cells. Then the infected person's immune system starts to decline, and the terrible symptoms of AIDS appear.

    People who inherit two copies of the HIV resistance gene can only be infected with HIV if they happen to come in contact with a virus from someone in the late stages of infection, when the virus can go straight for the T cells, said Dr. Stephen J. O'Brien, who is chief of the Laboratory of Genomic Diversity at the cancer institute.

    O'Brien and others have found that 10 percent of Caucasians have a copy of the gene, which slows the progress of HIV infections by several years, and one percent have two copies, which provides nearly complete immunity to HIV.

    The HIV resistance gene is most common among British and other northern European people, and declines in frequency further south. Thus, it is present in almost 14 percent of Swedes but appears in only about 5 percent of Italians and is absent in Saudi Arabia. It is absent in Africans, American Indians and Asians. The gene emerged in the Caucasian population long after Caucasians split from Asians, which was about 50,000 to 100,000 years ago, O'Brien said. And so, although the bubonic plague began in Asia, the HIV resistance gene is not there.

     

    By GINA KOLATA
    N.Y. Times, May 26, 1998

In short: the virus can easily copy in black people because of certain genes that make it easier for the virus to enter their cells and copy itself, and white people have genes that make it impossible for the virus to enter the cells and copy itself.
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2008, 08:39:39 PM »

so um... why do white people get AIDS, then? You've confused me.
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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2008, 08:45:24 PM »

the July 17 issue ofCell Host & Microbe

Available at newsstands everywhere.  Cheesy
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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2008, 06:17:14 AM »

so um... why do white people get AIDS, then? You've confused me.
Most white people aren't immune, it's just a lót easier for the virus to spread in black people, because that's what they designed it for.
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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2008, 07:36:28 AM »

remember they have never isolated the aids virus........

if you watch this documentary you will never think about aids the same way again.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3983706668483511310&q

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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2008, 07:43:55 AM »

What bothers me is the fact that HIV shows the same symptoms as the black plague. It is slower reacting, and of course not air borne. I would suspect, that it is a modified version of the black death.
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« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2008, 08:25:20 AM »

remember they have never isolated the aids virus........

if you watch this documentary you will never think about aids the same way again.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3983706668483511310&q

your welcome.
If they've never isolated the aids virus, how can they make genetically modified corn containing parts of the SIV virus? http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn2161
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« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2008, 10:02:26 AM »

The special virus program is doing it's job:
http://www.worldwatch.org/node/1662
HIV Epidemic Slowing Population Growth as World Approaches 6 Billion
by Worldwatch Institute on September 28, 1999

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
September 28, 1999, 10:00 AM EDT

HIV EPIDEMIC SLOWING POPULATION GROWTH
AS WORLD APPROACHES 6 BILLION

Lester R. Brown and Brian Halweil

As world population approaches 6 billion on October 12, the HIV epidemic is measurably slowing population growth. Nowhere is this more evident than in sub-Saharan Africa, a region of 800 million people, where the epidemic is spiraling out of control. If a low-cost cure is not found soon, countries with adult HIV infection rates over 20 percent, such as Botswana, South Africa, and Zimbabwe, will lose one fifth or more of their adult population to AIDS within the next decade.

When the United Nation's demographers did their biennial update of world population numbers and projections in October of 1998, they reduced the projected global population for 2050 from 9.4 billion to 8.9 billion. Of this 500 million drop, two thirds was because of falling fertility. That's the good news. The bad news is that one third of the fall was the result of rising mortality from AIDS.

Fourth in a series of reports on global population issues leading up to the Day of 6 Billion, October 12, 1999. Additional information and resources can be found at http://www.worldwatch.org/alerts/pop2.html

Governments in countries that have experienced several decades of rapid population growth appear to be suffering from "demographic fatigue." Struggling with the simultaneous challenge of educating growing numbers of children coming of school age, of creating jobs for the swelling ranks of young job seekers, and of dealing with the environmental effects of population growth such as deforestation and soil erosion, governments are simply being overwhelmed. When a major new threat arises, such as the HIV epidemic, they often cannot cope.

All industrial countries have held HIV infection rates of their adult populations under 1 percent but in some countries of sub-Saharan Africa, they have climbed above 20 percent. In Botswana, the adult infection level is 26 percent. In Zimbabwe, 25 percent, and in South Africa, 22 percent. Countries with infection rates of 18 to 20 percent include Namibia, Swaziland, and Zambia.

Problems routinely managed in industrial societies are becoming full-scale life threatening crises in many developing ones. As a result, some developing countries with high fertility could nonetheless see their population growth come to a halt in a matter of years because of rising death rates.

Although Africa is the epicenter of the HIV epidemic, the virus has also established a strong foothold in southern and western India, particularly in cities such as Mumbai (Bombay) and Chennai (Madras). Other countries with high infection rates include Haiti and Cambodia, with 5 percent and 2.5 percent respectively.

In sub-Saharan Africa, life expectancy, a sentinel indicator of economic progress, is falling precipitously. In Zimbabwe, until recently a model of economic development in the region, life expectancy has fallen from 60 years in 1990 to 44 years today, and it is projected to fall to 39 years by 2010.

Aside from raising mortality, the virus also reduces fertility. With new infections at the highest level in the 15- to 24-year age group in sub-Saharan Africa, many young women will die before they complete their childbearing years. In addition, as the infection progresses toward full-blown AIDS, ovulation often ceases, reducing fertility further. The epidemic affects not just life expectancy and population growth, but virtually every facet of life. In a matter of years, the economic gains of this century could be wiped out, quite literally reversing the march of progress.

Health care systems in countries with high infection rates are literally being overwhelmed. In South Africa, 70 percent of the beds in some hospitals are occupied by AIDS victims. Zimbabwe's health minister reports that half the national health care budget has now been diverted to treating AIDS patients. This unanticipated demand on health care systems may deprive many people of even the most basic health care.

Food security is also being affected in rural areas of Africa as the loss of adults is leading to labor shortages in the fields. Zimbabwe, where food production has plummeted in 1999, may be one of the first countries to experience this hidden cost of AIDS. In rural areas, the number of able-bodied workers is reduced not only by deaths but also by those who are sick and by those who are obligated to care for the sick. Once one adult family member is bedridden by AIDS, it can compromise the food security of the whole family.

Education is also being affected. In South Africa, for example, at the University of Durban-Westville, 25 percent of the student body is HIV positive. In Africa, it is often the better educated, more socially mobile populations who have the highest infection rate. Africa is losing the agronomists, the engineers, and the teachers it needs to sustain its economic development.

The epidemic may also indirectly affect capital flows. Companies operating in the countries with high infection rates find the health insurance costs for their employees doubling, tripling, or even quadrupling. Firms that were operating comfortably in the black suddenly find themselves in the red. The combination of rising costs of health care insurance, the loss of workers to AIDS, and the need to recruit and train new workers is making investment in these countries less attractive. As a result, capital inflows may decline and even dry up. What began as an unprecedented social tragedy is translating into an economic disaster.

The HIV epidemic does not come as a surprise. First identified in 1981, the virus has been infecting more people each year. In 1981, there were 200,000 new infections; in 1998, there were 5.8 million new infections. Preliminary data indicate a far bigger jump in 1999.

Two countries where the epidemic had earlier spiraled out of control have succeeded in checking the spread of the virus: Uganda and Thailand. In each case, the head of state, President Museveni of Uganda and Prime Minister Panyarachun of Thailand, personally assumed a leadership role of the national campaign to control the epidemic. Short of a commitment at this level, it is unlikely that the spread of the virus will be checked in most countries.

As world population approaches 6 billion and the virus continues to spread, an inability to confront these trends stems in part from faltering international support for family planning. The same reproductive health care services and the same condoms that help lower birth rates also check the spread of the virus. Unless governments can mobilize quickly to contain the virus, the epidemic could claim more lives in the early part of the new century than World War II did in this one.

LESTER R. BROWN is president and BRIAN HALWEIL is staff researcher at Worldwatch Institute, a Washington, D.C.-based research organization.
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« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2008, 02:35:43 PM »

Very interesting discussion.  Thanks for posting the article. 
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« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2008, 02:47:15 PM »

I find it highly suspicious that a disease like this comes out after inter-governmental documents talk about the need for a reduction in population. Especially, since this disease has risen ever since the post-WWII baby boom. I smell a scam.
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« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2008, 04:12:25 PM »

I find it highly suspicious that a disease like this comes out after inter-governmental documents talk about the need for a reduction in population. Especially, since this disease has risen ever since the post-WWII baby boom. I smell a scam.
Yeah, and I find it highly suspicious that the virus pops up in the same time in the US as in Africa and that the virus spreads easier among blacks than among whites.

 I find it even more suspicious that the same government that spread Syphilis among black families had a "special virus" program, a cancer of the immune system, and has been proven beyond a doubt to have spread cancer causing viruses amongst the population through the vaccines.

Ofcourse there's already a no-plane version of the AIDS truth movement, the people who claim that HIV doesn't exist/doesn't destroy the immune system. The people who started this disinformation campaign are the same people involved with the cancer programs back then, with viruses that all turned up in our vaccines, and guess what, they also claim that viruses do not cause cancer. That's comparable to the main thermite manufacturors coming out and claiming that thermite can't cut through steel and starting the idea that space beam weapons brought down the WTC.
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« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2009, 10:36:53 AM »

One year ago: July 16 2008:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/16/AR2008071601539.html?rss
Genetic Trait Boosts AIDS Risks in Blacks

WEDNESDAY, July 16 (HealthDay News) -- New research suggests that people of African descent are much more likely to have a genetic trait that makes them more susceptible to infection with the HIV virus.

Scientists estimate that the trait -- which also provides protection against a form of malaria -- might account for 11 percent of the HIV cases in Africa, the continent hardest hit by the AIDS epidemic.
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