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Author Topic: CHINA HOLDS MARK TWAIN FOREST in Missouri as COLLATERAL!!!!!!!!!!  (Read 13015 times)
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« on: July 15, 2008, 03:00:08 PM »

A government surveyor was sent to survey the boundaries of the Mark Twain forest in Southern Missouri this month as the Chinese are going to hold it as collateral against the mounting US debt - incredible!
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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2008, 03:03:32 PM »

Anything to back this up?
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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2008, 03:05:47 PM »

Got any links?
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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2008, 03:11:36 PM »

I work at a small town newspaper in Southwest Missouri and the story was confirmed by two local land owners adjacent to the forest.  I can get their names and statements and even put it in our paper but I'm sure the fallout would get me fired.
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2008, 03:16:05 PM »

If this is true, I would be happy to sacrifice my job in the name of liberty!
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2008, 03:18:32 PM »

Got any links?

No links, as this just came out from a local realtor that listed a business adjacent to the forest.  The owner conveyed the information to the realtor.  The realtor then called a relative that owns land on the other side of the forest and the same government surveyor was there recently and told him the same thing - that the government sent him to survey, etc...
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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2008, 04:22:36 PM »

I work at a small town newspaper in Southwest Missouri and the story was confirmed by two local land owners adjacent to the forest.  I can get their names and statements and even put it in our paper but I'm sure the fallout would get me fired.

This could be huge and jump start your career as a writer/journalist. Break this news on Prison Planet man! This is the time in history to due it. Do you plan on retiring from that small town paper anyway? It's your civic duty as a constitution loving American.
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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2008, 05:13:09 PM »

So is this even remotely possible and if it is well, what next?Huh??
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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2008, 06:06:50 PM »

Screw China
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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2008, 06:11:56 PM »

Try to get some footage and keep an eye on all public newspapers.
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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2008, 10:43:16 PM »

Screw China

I'd LOVE to see them try to march on our soil.
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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2008, 10:55:59 PM »

Sadly, with all the money we owe them, they probably hold 3/4 of the US as collateral.

Speaking of National Parks, is it true that they're all now under the jurisdiction of the UN(necessary)?  That's one persistent rumor I've heard.

Of course, most of the sheeple don't care, because they still have their NASCAR and American Idol to watch, and they can get their cheap Chinese made junk at Wal-Mart.
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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2008, 10:56:51 PM »

I'd LOVE to see them try to march on our soil.

When they do march, it will be with the protection/assistance of our own military.
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« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2008, 11:05:11 PM »

When they do march, it will be with the protection/assistance of our own military.

Wouldn't doubt it. It would probably be Chinese in US military uniforms.

The UN? got any info on this?
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« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2008, 11:10:25 PM »

I'd LOVE to see them try to march on our soil.
They will be marching on their soil if it is their property.
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« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2008, 11:12:10 PM »

Wouldn't doubt it. It would probably be Chinese in US military uniforms.

The UN? got any info on this?

Or in "UN" military uniforms.
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« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2008, 11:13:04 PM »

They will be marching on their soil if it is their property.

Good point.

The selling of America is almost complete...
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« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2008, 11:32:06 PM »

Executive Order 12986:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h05Yt5UbOOk
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« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2008, 11:41:41 PM »

Speaking of National Parks, is it true that they're all now under the jurisdiction of the UN(necessary)?  That's one persistent rumor I've heard.


Yes, it's called Agenda 21 and one of Alex Jones documentaries covers it.

America: Destroyed By Design
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4167926428522965274

You can also do a search on Agenda 21.

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« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2008, 11:42:48 PM »

Yes, it's called Agenda 21 and one of Alex Jones documentaries covers it.

America: Destroyed By Design
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4167926428522965274

You can also do a search on Agenda 21.



Jesus Christ...
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« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2008, 11:44:26 PM »


Wow. Thanks.

http://www.epa.gov/fedrgstr/eo/eo12986.htm

Executive Order 12986--International Union for Conservation of Nature and Natural Resources
[Federal Register: January 22, 1996 (Volume 61, Number 14)]
[Presidential Documents]              
[Page 1691-1693]
From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov]
[DOCID:fr22ja96-114]
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Part IV
The President
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Executive Order 12986--International Union for Conservation of Nature
and Natural Resources

Notice of January 18, 1996--Continuation of Emergency Regarding
Terrorists Who Threaten To Disrupt the Middle East Peace Process

                        Presidential Documents
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Title 3--
The President

[[Page 1693]]

                Executive Order 12986 of January 18, 1996
 
                International Union for Conservation of Nature
                and Natural Resources

                By virtue of the authority vested in me as President by
                the Constitution and the laws of the United States,
                including sections 1 and 14 of the International
                Organizations Immunities Act (22 U.S.C. 288 et seq., as
                amended by section 426 of the Foreign Relations
                Authorization Act, Fiscal Years 1994 and 1995, Public
                Law 103-236), I hereby extend to the International
                Union for Conservation of Nature and Natural Resources
                the privileges and immunities that provide or pertain
                to immunity from suit. To this effect, the following
                sections of the International Organizations Immunities
                Act shall not apply to the International Union for
                Conservation of Nature and Natural Resources:

                    --Section 2(b), 22 U.S.C. 288a(b), that provides
                international organizations and their property and
                assets with the same immunity from suit and judicial
                process as is enjoyed by foreign governments.
                    --Section 2(c), 22 U.S.C. 288a(c), that provides
                that the property and assets of international
                organizations shall be immune from search and
                confiscation and that their archives shall be
                inviolable.
                    --Section 7(b), 22 U.S.C. 288d(b), that provides
                the representatives of foreign governments in or to
                international organizations and the officers and
                employees of such organizations with immunity from suit
                and legal process relating to acts performed by them in
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                international agreements or by congressional action.

                    (Presidential Sig.)<Clinton1><Clinton2>

                THE WHITE HOUSE,

                    January 18, 1996.

[FR Doc. 96-955
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GoodBush...What the f**k is this?

"Notice of January 18, 1996--Continuation of Emergency Regarding
Terrorists Who Threaten To Disrupt the Middle East Peace Process"


Who are the terrorists? In 1996? 2008?


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« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2008, 11:49:02 PM »

Yah I put flyers out on this... (thank you alex!)

TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW!

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« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2008, 11:57:52 PM »

This is a more in depth look at Agenda 21.

Lecture about the true nature of sustainable development
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4299496017777786958
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« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2008, 12:00:28 AM »

I think I'm gonna hold my horses on the Mark Twain story until we see concrete proof. Not to disrespect the original poster but to preserve our movement's credibility.
It certainly wouldn't surprise me if true but as much as I'd like to, I can't run and tell all my friends from MO about it unless they can research it and see for themselves it's true.

Edit: I know about the UN control of our parks but this one being held by China I'm not sure of.
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« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2008, 12:32:48 AM »

This doesn't surprise me.
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« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2008, 12:59:07 AM »

http://aerosolcrimes.wordpress.com/2008/07/08/agenda-21-sustainable-developement/
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« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2008, 10:17:33 AM »

I think I'm gonna hold my horses on the Mark Twain story until we see concrete proof. Not to disrespect the original poster but to preserve our movement's credibility.

Edit: I know about the UN control of our parks but this one being held by China I'm not sure of.

I completely understand.  I contacted the realtor last night and got the name of the person who talked to the government surveyor.  I also got the name of the other person that spoke to the surveyor.  I'm going to contact them and get their story.  I'll try to do it by Friday if possible. 

This is very troubling to me and I can't understand how OUR government can GIVE this country away for a buck.
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« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2008, 04:03:36 PM »

I completely understand.  I contacted the realtor last night and got the name of the person who talked to the government surveyor.  I also got the name of the other person that spoke to the surveyor.  I'm going to contact them and get their story.  I'll try to do it by Friday if possible. 

This is very troubling to me and I can't understand how OUR government can GIVE this country away for a buck.

Right on man! Your doing your country a great service by exposing the sneaking around behind our backs! All this must be brought to light! Good luck to you friend. I thank you!
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« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2008, 04:09:46 PM »

OMG - unbelievable !
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« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2008, 04:14:18 PM »

I'd LOVE to see them try to march on our soil.

3 Billion chinese soldiers against 200 Million armed US Citizens  , hhhmmmm  be a great battle while it lasted.
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« Reply #30 on: July 18, 2008, 11:05:00 AM »

Any news on this? I have not been able to find anything on it.
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« Reply #31 on: July 18, 2008, 11:08:26 AM »

3 Billion chinese soldiers against 200 Million armed US Citizens  , hhhmmmm  be a great battle while it lasted.

They could march them in with nothing but pitchforks all day long, and we'd still lose. You can't beat those types of numbers. We don't have enough (and can't afford) ammo.
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« Reply #32 on: July 18, 2008, 12:03:58 PM »

i don't see the big deal.  they can buy land here legally.  plus that park is probably not nearly worth the amount of money that is owed to them.  if that's the collateral this country's getting off light.  honestly i don't believe the story off hand either.  why would china want land in missourri as collateral? (sorry if i offended any show me staters).  unless they got plans on building a base here.  even that doesn't bother me since we got bases everywhere so it would only make sense people want to have a base here (who was the south american leader who said the US can have a base there if they are allowed to have a base here after he didn't renew the contract for our base there?).  also we need to be watching out for what our country is doing to us more than what china might do.  every second worrying about china is a second distracted from the real people we need to be watching.
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« Reply #33 on: July 18, 2008, 12:08:38 PM »

Well, in my opinion, our country being sold, leased and given away IS one of the real issues.  Are you a globalist?
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« Reply #34 on: July 18, 2008, 12:13:37 PM »

Well, in my opinion, our country being sold, leased and given away IS one of the real issues.  Are you a globalist?

that's the point.  its being GIVEN away.  you got people on here talking about if China does this or that.  forget what China is doing.  they aren't going to do anything unless the people here who are selling us out offers it to them.  china might take advantage of the offers, but then again they'd be dumb not to.
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« Reply #35 on: July 18, 2008, 01:36:08 PM »

why would china want land in missourri as collateral? (sorry if i offended any show me staters).  


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« Reply #36 on: July 18, 2008, 01:55:14 PM »

they just talked about this
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« Reply #37 on: July 18, 2008, 02:52:27 PM »

Any news on this? I have not been able to find anything on it.

I just called the land owner today and I'm waiting for him to call back.  I will follow up the story this weekend.  If they are doing this in Missouri they have got to be doing this with other federally held lands.  We've got to take this country back.  This government has NO RIGHT to collaterize our land.  NO RIGHT.
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« Reply #38 on: July 18, 2008, 02:55:53 PM »

I just called the land owner today and I'm waiting for him to call back.  I will follow up the story this weekend.  If they are doing this in Missouri they have got to be doing this with other federally held lands.  We've got to take this country back.  This government has NO RIGHT to collaterize our land.  NO RIGHT.

Standing right there with Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, J.Ventura, Alex Jones and others. You are a true patriot.
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« Reply #39 on: July 21, 2008, 11:09:34 AM »

I just talked to the landowner this morning - 7/21.

His name is Reggie and he told me, "A government surveyor did come out here."  I asked him if the surveyor had said why.  Reggie said the surveyor responded, "I have to find some corners and lines for the forest because the government is needing to put it up as collaterol for the stimulus package."

Reggie also stated that the same surveyor visited another land owner and repeated the same story when questioned.  I have that land owner's contact information and I will contact him when I have some time.  Hopefully tonight or tomorrow.

When I asked Reggie if we could do a story on this for the paper he was reluctant for obvious reasons.  Hopefully, the next contact will be more willing.  Suffice it to say, this is NO BULL story.  This is happening whether you want to believe it or not
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