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« on: July 10, 2008, 11:43:38 PM »

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9/11 Cultwatch To Speak At Anarchist Studies Network Conference

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This September Loughborough University hosts the Anarchist Studies Network conference.

Joining in the debates and discussions, to be held between Thursday 4th and Saturday 6th September, will be 9/11 Cultwatch’s Larry O’Hara and Paul Stott.

Source http://www.paulstott.typepad.com/911cultwatch/

For more information visit http://www.anarchist-studies-network.org.uk/

Since the 9/11 terrorist attacks in America, a worldwide movement has developed. Its activists run thousands of websites, have produced hundreds of books, DVDs and articles, and attend events as diverse as the Notting Hill carnival, the 2005 Anarchist Bookfair, Green Party conferences and Universities and colleges across the UK. Their influence, particularly amongst young people and many British Muslims, appears to be growing.

This movement denies any link between Islamist ideology and violence, and doesn’t prioritise opposing the ‘war’ on terror. Instead the 9/11 ‘truth’ movement denies the existence of Al-Qaeda, argues American and/or Israeli ‘inside’ involvement in 9/11, and regards conventional leftist and anarchist commentators on such events (e.g. Chomsky) as ‘gatekeepers’, protecting the guilty parties from the wider public.

The 9/11 ‘truth’ movement massively distracts from the issues facing all those struggling for a better world. Surely we need to criticise the US/UK governments for what they have actually done (bad enough) rather than imaginary crimes? By seeing all contemporary (and past) political events through their skewed view of 9/11, the ‘truth’ movement takes progressive forces down a cul-de-sac. We must resist their influence.

Paul Stott has been involved in the anarchist movement since the early 1990s, and is one of the editors of Class War. He graduated from the University of East London in October 2007 with a Masters degree in Terrorism Studies.  Visit his blog here http://www.paulstott.typepad.com/

Dr Larry O’Hara edits the parapolitical magazine Notes From The Borderland and holds a PhD in Contemporary British Fascism from Birkbeck. He and Paul Stott are currently working on a book “Half Truth Movement – How The 9/11 Cult Falsifies History”. Visit Notes From The Borderland here http://www.borderland.co.uk/

Anarchist Studies Network - A PSA Specialist Group for the Study of Anarchism

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The Anarchist Studies Network is an official Specialist Group of the Political Studies Association (UK)

The principal aims of this network are to coordinate and promote the re-investigation of anarchism as a political ideology.

Convenor

Dr Ruth Kinna, Senior Lecturer in Modern Political Theory
Treasurer

Dr Dave Berry, Senior Lecturer in Contemporary French and European History
Secretary

Alex Prichard, Research Student

Department of Politics, IR and European Studies, Loughborough University, UK



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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2008, 12:07:41 AM »

First they laugh, then they fight, then we win. Smiley I'm glad to see they are deciding to fight us, bring it on you pathetic creatures.
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2008, 12:42:16 AM »

Anarchism is so 80's.
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2008, 12:56:52 AM »

Anarchism is so 80's.

LOL video games, porn and drugs have rendered anarchists as extinct as the dodo lol
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2008, 06:54:01 AM »

911 Truth a cult?

Who claimed to be God? Who claimed to talk to God?

Where is the secret code for "War Criminals?"

I didn't know 911 Truth is selling flowers at the Airport?

Didn't hear about 911 arranged marriages?

Jesus, didn't these idiots learn in grammer school not to use words, when they don't have a clue to what they mean?
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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2008, 07:15:19 AM »

Anarchism is so 80's.



I don't want to hear this noise. I'm too old.

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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2008, 08:10:33 AM »

cheeky ignorant misguided fools, what a damned shame that they are spending so much energy and resources doing such non-campaigning and writing a book full of lies, I wonder how they get their funding?
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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2008, 04:30:01 PM »



They are sponsored and backed. It's difficult for me to believe an educated human being could attempt to dismiss the truth, and inject slander in its place.
As has been done so very often, the Gov. , will back these traitors to develop a following, the head men are normally with credentials, colledge degrees etc., this of course calls attention and to those who are ignorant to the truth , they are impressed by the status of this individual.
This has been a card up the sleeve of the Gov's for decades.

They definitely need a challenge, a debate, or whatever  would serve to shed light on their lies. Don't let these paid off freaks burden you, they are traitors, and paid for lackeys of the Gov.

Compare this to a fed. setting up a rouge group of armed and very unstable gunny's, giving it a name that will degrade the cause. This too has been done. they resort to these tactics only when they see the tide is turning, therefor look on the bright side, they are getting worried.
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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2008, 05:47:15 PM »

Amusingly enough Larry O'Hara would feel quite at home on this forum I suspect.

He has had a grand old time accusing people of being 'statist assets' and 'disinfo agents' all over the place for years. He accused an acquaintance of mine of being an MI5 asset, which caused her untold grief.

He has been one of the big behind the scenes movers in branding David Icke a "fascist" and "anti-semite", but has chosen to leave one or two rather more genuine anti-semites, one of them connected to Copeland, alone.

Oh yes, we know Larry O'Hara and his allegations well over here. I would imagine that many of the other UK posters here will know him too, he has been floating about for years and anyone, anyone at all, who gets on his wrong side is always working for MI5. As for what O'Hara's side is? I have no idea, I don't think he has any idea himself, his politics flip and flop so often that its difficult to see what side he could be on.

As an agent for state-sanctioned rebellion O'Hara is obviously not going to stand by and let the kind of popularist grass-roots movement that the DCDC warns about get established in this country. His brief always seems to have been to try and destroy any person or organisation that attempts to achieve a popular movement outside of the narrow confines of sanctioned anarcho-workerist avenues.

For an overview of one of his more well known vendettas read the links below:

http://www.stewarthomesociety.org/sanity.htm

http://www.stewarthomesociety.org/P-O'H.htm

http://www.stewarthomesociety.org/15dont.html
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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2008, 06:21:40 PM »

f**k Sex Pistols...it's all about CRASS...





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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2008, 06:25:38 PM »

f**k Sex Pistols...it's all about CRASS...

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Talk about timing, I was sitting here with a cup of tea, listening to Bloody Revolutions.

Spot on mate!
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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2008, 06:33:31 PM »

Another site run by idiots for idiots, seen the attack on David Icke n there?

If they'd actualy seen what Mr. Icke said, he had zero intention of winning. They also mention £80,000 could be better spent - well how about the billions spent on the Iraq / Afghanistan "wars" when it's proven and admitted that both of those invasions were based on lies - Do they consider that money well spent? If anyone's humiliated here, it's the author of the callous article for not seeing the huge flaws in what they have assumed.
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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2008, 06:39:55 PM »

These bastards' dreams of easy peasy empire building through mass killing, torture and stealing is crumbling before their very eyes, as more and more people are joining us! I hope they will become nothing but another example of how fakers and gatekeepers will be exposed and lose all credibility in the eyes of the future victims before its too late. We have to win this infowar. We already are. Smoke it, shills! No BBC bigmouth liar will save the empire. Down with the empire. Down!
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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2008, 06:54:07 PM »

Another site run by idiots for idiots, seen the attack on David Icke n there?

If they'd actualy seen what Mr. Icke said, he had zero intention of winning. They also mention £80,000 could be better spent - well how about the billions spent on the Iraq / Afghanistan "wars" when it's proven and admitted that both of those invasions were based on lies - Do they consider that money well spent? If anyone's humiliated here, it's the author of the callous article for not seeing the huge flaws in what they have assumed.
  Huh

I just chose to ignore it. Anyone who has heard one of Icke's lectures, or read any of his books, knows that those allegations are bollocks.

I've never heard him say anything that could be construed as anti-semitism. I would have walked out if he had.

I have no time for the philosophy of morons and anti-semitism fits neatly into that particular dustbin.

On the strength of Icke's 6th July video he is on particularly good form at the moment, have you seen it? It was brilliant, its going to wake up a lot of people.

PS: Loughborough?

ROFLMAO!

The only place less credible than that would be Oxford Brooks. Grin
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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2008, 07:21:10 PM »

Another site run by idiots for idiots, seen the attack on David Icke n there?

RINF used to be a truth site and their forum still has truthers there too. Their forum also has a "fringe" section for 9/11, aliens and paranormal stuff now, but  somehow the editor/moderator felt that the 9/11 Cultwatch article wasn't considered fringe.
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« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2008, 11:36:04 AM »

glad to see somebody posted some crass fliers.  when i first scrolled through the thread i saw that sex pistols crap. got me kind of pissed to see another "bash on anarchists" thread.  sorry man, but the sex pistols and anarchists have about as much in common as me and my mother in law.  i understand tho, bashing on what you believe anarchism is.  the corporate media has done a fine job of dividing us all into our factions.
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« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2008, 11:41:20 AM »

If there was a time where we need crass, it is now.  I wish Steve, Penny, Eve, and the others would re-unite.
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« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2008, 11:44:31 AM »

If there was a time where we need crass, it is now.  I wish Steve, Penny, Eve, and the others would re-unite.

What about Stratford Mercs, are they still going?
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« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2008, 11:47:27 AM »

Not really sure, I find they didn't have that appeal that crass had.  They were the total package.  Wait, Conflict may still be around right?
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« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2008, 01:28:31 PM »

yes conflict is still around.  check out my distro i am trying to get rolling:  www.passivegenocide.com.  i havent listed any Conflict in there but ill probably add a bunch of their 7"'s soon.
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« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2008, 03:57:40 PM »

Wow the proof is in the original text. These jokers themselves refer to 9-11 as an "imaginary crime"!

Read it again:

"The 9/11 ‘truth’ movement massively distracts from the issues facing all those struggling for a better world. Surely we need to criticise the US/UK governments for what they have actually done (bad enough) rather than imaginary crimes?"

On some level they even know that it was not a "crime" worthy of investigation and prosecution but rather a self fullfilling staged event.
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« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2008, 05:23:52 PM »

yes conflict is still around.  check out my distro i am trying to get rolling:  www.passivegenocide.com.  i havent listed any Conflict in there but ill probably add a bunch of their 7"'s soon.

That's right, they had a CD single out a while back, "Protest to Resistance", it was quite good.

"To A Nation of Animal Lovers" was one of their best 7"s.
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