NASA!!!...Psy-op, Photoshop, Terra-forming... What's Up, NASA?

[TimeLady]

also the upside-down pen

and you know, advanced medical, aerospace, and computer tech

[jack dempsey]

You had me at upside down pen.

[TimeLady]

You had me at upside down pen.

exactly. ever try to write in bed? no hard surfaces except maybe holding a clipboard above you.

[jack dempsey]

A pencil?

[EvadingGrid]

also the upside-down pen

Cost about 1 million $
but get this, the Russians just took a pencil.

[IridiumKEPfactor]

I wonder why the UK is airing it so much. They didn't go. I'm not knocking the UK but it seems like they are pushing other countries accomplishments. Well I guess their bankers in some way funded it.

I did notice that some news stations were mentioning that many people do not think that the first moon and or all the trips were made. I remember the first time hereing it was faked in some hacker movie and then again the early 2000's. They are some unanswered questions.

[jack dempsey]

 That occured to me-you should have seen the coverage given to last years US Presidential Election-wall to wall coverage on all major UK TV and Radio channels.Mind boggling that a foreign countries election could be covered in this way.But then it was the corranation of the saviour of the world.

[jshowell]

I wonder why the UK is airing it so much. They didn't go. I'm not knocking the UK but it seems like they are pushing other countries accomplishments. Well I guess their bankers in some way funded it.

Because anyone who questions the moon landing is nutty.  It's got a lot of traction with patriot groups who fall for the bait time and again.  I can't believe how many times I've seen the same stupid topic up on daily paul or on the comments on Infowars-and people actually respond to the nonsense. 

[jack dempsey]

Well the UK certainly didn't go to the moon so why the hell the BBC etc. givin it so much coverage.Maybe it is one of the more wacky conspiracy thoeries but it's not as ridiculous as it first sounds once you do bita research on it.My point bout NASSA and anyone else conducting missions in space-they may want to feed you BS about human exploration and endeavour but you can be assured their real motivations are less noble.This will become apparent in decades to come.

[TimeLady]

Well the UK certainly didn't go to the moon so why the hell the BBC etc. givin it so much coverage.Maybe it is one of the more wacky conspiracy thoeries but it's not as ridiculous as it first sounds once you do bita research on it.My point bout NASSA and anyone else conduction missions in space-they may want to feed you BS about human exploration and endeavour but you can be assured their real motivations are less noble.This will become apparent in decades to come.

Actually, the Russian Federation has an active space agency, as does the European Union, Japan, and possibly India and China.

[Brocke]

UK TV has given wall to wall coverage for days to the fake moon landing psy-op pepetrated on the peoples of the world by a bunch of Nazi's.A docu-drama cellebrating it was broadcast at 10.30pm simultaneously in UK(ITV) and Ireland(RTE).This is uncalled for as even if it did take place it's questionable whether anyone really really gives a shit about it anyway.To cellebrate such a ridiculous waste of taxpayers dollars at a time of gloal financial meltdown is obsene.

Australia is hyping this too. It's in all the papers and on TV.

Look at Googles custom logo celebrating it!

[Letsbereal]

Well a good time to think about these moonlandings again, did they go?

I am realy looking for proof they did go but only to find more to suggest the opposite, they didn't go.

I mean destroying of what supose to be, the greatest event in the history of human kind, the Apollo 11 tapes?

Asking the Japanese if they saw something whit their sattelite are avoiding the question and giving bogus reasons why the didn't see anything?

Neil Amstrong "Not recalling" seeing any stars from the moon Collins "don't remember seeing anything", Buzz keeping his mouth shut during the '63 press conference just after the suposed moonlanding?

Edgar Mitchel not remembering "what it felt like" on the moon even doing regression theraphy doesn't let him disclose his mind of "what it realy felt like on the moon" that day?

Can go on and go on here but I say this stinks high heaven, and where you smell fire there usually is a fire.

 

[Jackson Holly]

Just in case you are up for a bit of reading/research on the NASA/Moon Hoax ...
the forum does have a tiny thread about it:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=47982.0

[Letsbereal]

This little story was my contribute to the , 40 years ago, suposed moonlanding getting wakyer every day. That's all.

TnX for the link and I will read more in the future.

[Letsbereal]

Well a good time to think about these moonlandings again, did they go?

I am realy looking for proof they did go but only to find more to suggest the opposite, they didn't go.

I mean destroying of what supose to be, the greatest event in the history of human kind, the Apollo 11 tapes?

Asking the Japanese JAXA spacecenter if they saw something whit their sattelite the Kaguya are avoiding the question and giving bogus reasons why the didn't see anything?

Neil Amstrong "Not recalling" seeing any stars from the moon Collins "don't remember seeing anything", Buzz keeping his mouth shut during the '63 press conference just after the suposed moonlanding?

Edgar Mitchel not remembering "what it felt like" on the moon even doing regression theraphy doesn't let him disclose his mind of "what it realy felt like on the moon" that day?

Can go on and go on here but I say this stinks high heaven, and where you smell fire there usually is a fire.


Moon rocks where achieved even before Apollo 11 with the drone lander, remember.

This little story was my contribute to the , 40 years ago, suposed moonlanding getting wakyer every day. That's all.

[37]

Clip of Apollo 11 press conference
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RcKLAo62Ro

I have my doubts they went. 

Someone recently mentioned the suits...why aren't they used in nuclear facilities?

[Novus Ordo]

You know what anolog film material does by these insane Temps? Let alone the Hasselblad it'self?

Probably best not to wonder around up there when it gets too hot or too cold then eh?

[Letsbereal]

Quote Neil Amstrong: "... something that was kind of passing around subliminally or in the background."

Showing that Neil Amstrong is aware of the subliminal mind and probably also about subliminal influncing the mind by hypnoses for instance or subliminal learning practiced by the Secret Navy department also the ones from Operation Paperclip.

Why should a technician use the word "subliminal" when not thinking or using the word daily?


British scientist claims he coined Neil Armstong's moon landing quote
21 July 2009, by Simon de Bruxelles (Times Online)
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article6722041.ece?token=null&offset=0&page=1

To those who heard them live they are among the most unforgettable words uttered anywhere on - or off - the earth. But was Neil Armstrong’s “one small step” speech as he became the first man to set foot on the moon actually coined by a British scientist based at a deep space tracking station in the Australian outback?

PHOTO (NASA/Reuters): "One small step for man..." One of the first footprints of Apollo 11 astronaut Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin on the moon

When the Lunar Module delivered Armstrong and his co-pilot Buzz Aldrin to the Sea of Tranquility exactly 40 years ago this week, Gary Peach was a back room boffin helping keep open their communications with Mission Control in Houston.

He was stationed at Tidbinilla, an 85ft satellite dish near Canberra, and in the run up to the landing was wondering what the first words spoken on the moon would be. He was concerned that the Apollo 11 astronauts, both former US Navy fighter pilots chosen for their steady nerves rather than their eloquence, might fail to capture the momentous nature of man’s first footstep on another planet.

Mr Peach, now 73 and living in retirement in Newbury, Berkshire, says he raised the issue with a senior Nasa official visiting Tidbinilla shortly before the launch. The official, a Mr Monkton, entered the Deep Space Control Room where Mr Peach was making some last minute checks and asked if there were any problems.

Mr Peach said: “I replied no technical problems, but I am concerned about the historic moment when the first man sets foot upon the Moon. In the excitement, knowing the Yanks as I do, it’ll probably be something like ‘Holy chicken s**t look at all that f***ing dust’.

“I said I felt that would not be a suitable thing to be quoted in history books until eternity.

“He asked: ‘Well what would you say?’.” Mr Peach, who had been mulling it over for several days, replied: “One small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind”.

He says Mr Monkton said “we didn’t think of that” and left the room in a hurry.

Five days later Armstrong stepped onto the lunar surface and fluffed his most important line. Instead of “that’s one small step for a man...” he said “that’s one small step for man...” committing a tautological error. Despite the error it remains one of the most momentous statements ever made.

Mr Peach, a specialist in microwave transmissions, said he never discussed his contribution with Mr Monkton, who had by this time moved on to visit the other Australian tracking stations.

He said: “The idea was to let future generations know that we were aware of what we were doing and we were not doing it by accident. I heard the landings at work and when I heard what he said I was not displeased. But at the time I just got on with my job. The rest is history.

“Why should I mention it? We were all incredibly busy.”

The words were heard to by an estimated 450 million people who were watching the first moon walk live on television.

It is only 40 years later that he regrets not having claimed his place in history. By now it may be too late to prove his claim as many of those involved are dead.

He believes Mr Monkton telexed the lines back to Houston and they were suggested to Armstrong shortly before launch.

Armstrong himself has remained perhaps deliberately vague, stating in 2001 that he only turned his attention to the appropriate words to utter after Eagle, the Lunar Module, had safely landed.

When Armstrong was asked about the phrase for an oral history project, he replied: “I thought about it after landing and, because we had a lot of other things to do, it was not something that I really concentrated on but just *something that was kind of passing around subliminally or in the background.

“But it, you know, was a pretty simple statement, talking about stepping off something. Why, it wasn’t a very complex thing. It was what it was.”

He added: “I didn’t think of it as being as important as others. I didn’t want to be dumb, but it was contrived in a way and I was guilty of that.

Others have suggested that he was “fed” the line by Nasa officials, anxious that the moment should be marked with a memorable statement.

Mr Peach worked at the Tidbinilla tracking station for eight years. He recalls watching the bio-med monitoring as the Apollo 13 astronauts announced, “Houston, we have a problem,” after an oxygen cylinder exploded as they were on their way to the moon.

He said: “I saw their heart rates suddenly shoot up when the explosion occurred, but they were so well controlled you would never have guessed there was anything wrong from the tone of their voices.” He returned to England in 1973 and helped develop the CAT scan.

Tidbinilla was one of a series of monitoring stations around the world dedicated to monitoring and relaying communications from the Apollo spaceships. The transmitter on board the Command Module had an output of just ten watts, equivalent to the power of a car brake light and needed to be amplified before it could be relayed to Mission Control.

Parkes, one of the other Australian monitoring stations, was the subject of the feature film called The Dish starring Sam Neill. It was set at the time of the moon landings.

Mr Peach claims the story bore little relation to reality. Apart from one thing. He said: “The wealthiest people in town were the dentist and his very bored wife. She made a point of ‘entertaining’ any new visitors to the tracking station, including myself.”


British scientist claims he coined Neil Armstong's moon landing quote http://bit.ly/fpu5Q

[luckee1]

Clip of Apollo 11 press conference
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RcKLAo62Ro

I have my doubts they went. 

Someone recently mentioned the suits...why aren't they used in nuclear facilities?

Right!

[Letsbereal]

Finaly found the COMPLETE Apollo 11 Post-Flight Press Conference, 12 August 1969 Houston, Texas
http://www.livevideo.com/video/UKUFO/315215BFA96F48A0B7B15932C299F2F0/complete-apollo-11-news-confer.aspx

[Berminator]

The Spaceman's Saturday night's show

TOPIC: Apollo 11 (40th anniversary)

TIME: 3:19:00

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DOWNLOAD LINKS: http://www.mediafire.com/?zicj1go4v1n
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HUNTSVILLE, Ala. (AP) -- Researchers in Huntsville say they may have found a better shield to protect astronauts from cosmic radiation and use as the structural skin and walls of spaceships, planet outposts and space stations.

"What we are doing here with the radiation study program will affect all other long-term NASA space exploration missions," said Ed Semmes, NASA radiation study program manager at the National Space Science and Technology Center. The NSSTC and Marshall Space Flight Center are working together on the project.

"Going anywhere in the solar system or universe will depend on protecting crews from radiation," said Semmes. "Lunar exploration, which may be in the near future, and if we chose to go to Mars in the future, will be dependent on this research."

Semmes said Huntsville researchers are developing a better radiation model that would show NASA the risks of space radiation and how to combat them. He estimates researchers should have answers by 2008.  

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/nasa_radiation_031201.html

The shuttle can't leave near earth orbit.  It doesn't have enough radiation protection.  The soviets were first in everything.  They didn't even try to go to the moon.

Despite the apparent ease of past lunar exploration radiation-wise, such as NASA's successful Apollo moon landings, without adequate shielding long-term occupation of the moon and space exploration may remain out of reach, researchers said.

"A lot of people think about the Apollo astronauts, and that they didn't have much protection and were fine," Lane told SPACE.com. "But in Apollo, it was a very short mission and a lot of it was basically luck. I'm not sure how they managed to be so lucky, but I don't think you can count on luck on short missions for the future or trips to the planets."

Researchers have said that a major radiation event during the any of six Apollo moon landings could have been catastrophic to the astronauts who carried them out. But Apollo crews lived on the moon for days at most, while long-term mission will run much longer.

http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/lunarshield_techwed_050112.html





This image is too big to post but shows how the moon is outside the protection of Earth's magnetic field.
http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/222898main_orbit2_20080416_HI.jpg

[hilary_155]

There is a hexagon on the North Pole of Saturn.

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2007-034

http://lasp.colorado.edu/~bagenal/3720/CLASS19/saturn_npole.jpg

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/03/images/070328-saturn-hexagon_big.jpg

http://www.centauri-dreams.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/saturn_hexagon.jpg

This phenomenon is the result of vortices in superfluid Helium-3.  The normal isotopic ratio of helium is being skewed toward helium-3 due to a uranium breeder reactor at Saturn's core.  The breeder reactor is kicking out neutrons which are being absorbed by the helium.  This results in a lot more helium-3 than otherwise expected.  This helium-3 exists at least in part as a superfluid in the interior of the planet and as such has manifested vortices in response to the rotation of the planet.  These votices arrange themselves in the most geometrically efficient way (six around one) that minimized distortions.  The result is the hexagon we observe at the north pole.

[Letsbereal]

Backyard astronomer discovers black spot on Jupiter
21 July 2009, Sophie Tedmanson in Sydney (Times Online)
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article6721504.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=797093

Armed with a home-made telescope and enjoying clear night skies in the southern hemisphere, an amateur Australian astronomer made an extraordinary discovery in his backyard at the weekend: a dark "scar" the size of the Earth that had suddenly appeared on the planet Jupiter.

Photo (Anthony Wesley): Anthony Wesley with his telescope ; Anthony Wesley and his is Homebrew GEM mounted Newtonian using a 14.5" Royce conical mirror telescope he used to see Jupiter

Anthony Wesley was enjoying his usual evening stargazing from the yard of his rural home in Murrumbateman, near Canberra, when he noticed something different on the gas planet at about 1am on Monday morning (4pm Sunday BST) through his personally designed 14.5in telescope.

Mr Wesley told The Times that he had discovered the strange dark blob in between running inside to watch the final rounds of British Open golf on television.

“About 11pm I went inside to have a break and watch the golf, and by the time I came back out at about 1am the impact point had rotated around into view,” he said.

“I couldn’t believe it. I thought, ‘That wasn’t there before’ and then I realised Jupiter had actually been hit by something.”

Mr Wesley, 44, immediately set about alerting the international space community to his find, e-mailing photographs and footage to various amateur and professional Jupiter experts around the world.

Yesterday Nasa confirmed Mr Wesley’s discovery and released their own images. The pictures, taken by the American space agency's infrared telescope in Hawaii, show a scar in the atmosphere near Jupiter's south pole.

It comes 15 years after Jupiter was bombarded by pieces of the comet Shoemaker-Levy 9, and in the same week the world celebrates the 40th anniversary of the moon landings.

“I remember watching Jupiter back then, so I grew up with those images of the Shoemaker-Levy,” Mr Wesley said.

“So it was a very surreal feeling to suddenly see this appear on Jupiter again.”

Glenn Orton, a Nasa scientist who works from the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California, praised the discovery.

"We were extremely lucky to be seeing Jupiter at exactly the right time, the right hour, the right side of Jupiter to witness the event. We couldn't have planned it better," Mr Orton said.

Mr Orton and his team of astronomers have continued to track the planet and are downloading data and working to get additional observing time on this and other telescopes.

He said that they are still not 100 per cent sure what caused the black scar.

"It could be the impact of a comet, but we don't know for sure yet," Mr Orton said. "It's been a whirlwind of a day, and this on the anniversary of the Shoemaker-Levy 9 and Apollo anniversaries is amazing."

Mr Wesley, an IT consultant, said that he spends at least 20 hours a week looking at Jupiter — his “main passion” in the sky — through his personally designed telescope in his backyard.

When asked to explain the appeal of Jupiter, the fifth planet from the Sun and the largest in the solar system, Mr Wesley said: “It’s just such a dynamic planet.

“Even when there are no earth-shattering events happening it just changes day to day and has so many patterns it is fascinating to watch.”


Backyard astronomer discovers black spot on Jupiter http://bit.ly/i2rb3

[Unintelligable Name]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0Cnr9uOMvM

Hilarious

[Dustbunny]

I'm reading an article on a finnish newspaper about nasa developing a car for the moon. Next generation moonrover, a pickup! Should be ready for use by 2020!  This guy named Lucien Juncin from Johnson Space Center says: What would be more american than a pickup.
- Can't find anything about this on the web... no use of scanning the article because it's in finnish...

[Brocke]

I'm reading an article on a finnish newspaper about nasa developing a car for the moon. Next generation moonrover, a pickup! Should be ready for use by 2020!  This guy named Lucien Juncin from Johnson Space Center says: What would be more american than a pickup.
- Can't find anything about this on the web... no use of scanning the article because it's in finnish...

Moon base would be good for state

By TOM STILL
Posted: Dec. 17, 2006

Not that flags can flutter on the airless surface of the moon, but if they could, the international lunar base camp on NASA's drawing boards would be a prime spot to hoist Wisconsin's colors.

The nation's space agency announced this month it wants to return to the moon - and stay there. With the help of space programs around the world, NASA would establish a base camp on one of the moon's more sunlit poles. It would be built in steps starting in 2020, when four-person crews would begin making weeklong visits. The base would be permanently staffed by 2024.

Space explorers haven't left footprints on the moon since Apollo 17 in 1972, and there's no guarantee Congress will buy into a return trip. But if NASA's plan blasts off, Wisconsin science and technology know-how will be strapped in for the ride.

Returning to the moon may strike some Americans as a been-there, done-that exercise and a potential waste of taxpayer dollars. However, others recognize that space exploration is essential to the future of mankind on Earth and that a permanent lunar camp is a jumping-off point to Mars and beyond.

Nearly 50 years ago, America was shocked into the space age when the Soviet Union launched Sputnik, the world's first artificial satellite. A sense of national emergency was born because the Cold War compelled us to maintain a competitive edge, especially in the strategic arena of space flight.

Today, there is still urgency about space travel - but we are defending against different threats. We must know more about global climate change and how that is affecting storms, polar ice loss and ocean currents.

We must use orbiting eyes and ears to enhance our communications and to act as sentinels of peace.

We must learn how to tap resources found on the moon and beyond.

And we must assess what can be learned by someday escaping the bonds of our solar system.

Wisconsin scientists, public and private, have the expertise to help get us there and to prepare for what comes next.

At the University of Wisconsin-Madison, for example, researchers have:

• Developed remote sensing technologies to study the atmosphere of the Earth and other planets.

• Worked with NASA, academia and industry to develop and commercialize technologies, products and processes that can be used in space. One example is robotic-assisted material-joining technology.

• Researched the use of plants for life support on long-term space bases, such as the proposed lunar base camp.

For example, a payload of red potatoes sprouted on a 1995 shuttle mission with the help of UW researchers. The Wisconsin Center for Space Automation and Robotics has been a part of space station experiments to grow soybeans to learn if they have improved oil, protein and carbohydrates.

• Mapped portions of the Milky Way and catalogued millions of stars, many of which had never been seen before.

• Designed a third-generation free-flying robots to help astronauts in a pressurized, weightless environment.

UW-Madison has been a leader in researching the mining of helium 3, a potential fusion energy source, on the moon's surface.

Harrison "Jack" Schmitt, the last astronaut to leave footprints on the moon, has been an adjunct professor in Madison and a tireless advocate for development of helium 3 fusion power.

Some researchers see helium 3 as the perfect fuel source. It is incredibly potent, non-polluting and has practically no radioactive byproducts.

The trouble is precious little exists on Earth. On the moon, however, it's as a common as . . . well, moon dust.

There are an estimated 100 million tons of helium 3 scattered in dusty particles on the surface of the moon, enough to power the Earth for thousands of years. A single shuttle load (about 25 tons) could fuel the United States for a year.

"Helium 3 fusion energy may be the key to future space exploration and settlement.

It could be the 'cash crop' of the moon - and the new energy source of the 21st century," said Gerald Kulcinski, director of the UW-Madison's Fusion Technology Institute and a member of the NASA Advisory Council.

Private companies such as Orbital Technologies Corp. have been leaders in providing NASA and related agencies with functional products and cutting-edge R&D. Known as ORBITEC, the company has won 180 federal contracts worth $125 million over time.

And when it comes time to develop that lunar "pick-up truck," as one NASA official described it, Wisconsin has no shortage of companies with expertise in robotics, control systems and extreme materials.

And, as improbable as it might seem, Sheboygan is the location of the Midwest's only restricted airspace and "portal to space" as designated by the Federal Aviation Administration.

From Mercury to Gemini, from Apollo to the shuttle program, manned space exploration has been a national priority.

There have been disasters, such as the losses of shuttle Challenger in 1986 and shuttle Columbia in 2003, but there have been ample triumphs.

Returning to the moon and establishing a permanent camp there could build upon those successes.

Besides, it would be a great place for a Wisconsin flag.

Tom Still is president of the Wisconsin Technology Council, which is the non-profit, non-partisan science and technology adviser to the governor and the Legislature.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/opinion/29220144.html

[Letsbereal]

At Issue

We Landed On The Moon, Big Deal

All of a sudden people care about NASA again, it’ll pass.

by David Mantey, Editor, PD&D


I don’t remember where I was when we landed on the moon. This can be attributed to the fact that my mother was only 10 at the time and still years away from her public school lesson on baby-making.

I do, however, remember where I was when Fox aired one of the first conspiratorial specials on whether the moon landing was faked: Instead of sitting together as a family to watch this great accomplishment, which would motivate thousands of engineers around the nation and invigorate overwhelming nationalism, I watched "Conspiracy Theory: Did We Land on the Moon?" the 2001 Fox TV documentary that featured inconsistencies in NASA's Apollo images and TV footage. 

I became more excited about the possibility of a hoax. Landing on the moon was one feat, but faking it and pulling it off? What a testament to the power of the PR machine.   

I didn’t grow up with NASA heroics. We didn’t have space shuttle toys or Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong action figures. I heard we landed on the moon, thought it was pretty interesting and then put down the issue of 3-2-1 Contact before I finished the article. I have become more interested in Buzz ever since he smoked Michael Moore wannabe, Bart Sibrel with a *better jab than I’ll ever muster.

It’s not that landing on the moon or space exploration isn’t interesting, I just think most people don’t care – unless they have $200K to hitch a ride into space on **Virgin Galactic, one of Branson’s latest ventures.

*better jab http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ez-NpFVwQw
**Virgin Galactic http://www.virgingalactic.com/

The 40th anniversary makes for good nostalgia-stoking, water-cooler fodder and time-filling segments on news outlets, but let’s not get ahead of ourselves. The 40th will not jump-start a newfound passion to reach the final frontier – J.J. Abrams did a better job with his Star Trek revamp.   

Our society is too Hollywood, too commercial, too individualistic. We want to buy a ticket to space or turn a blind eye to the opportunity if it’s out of our price range. Instead, we’ll watch a young space cowboy befriend a pointy-eared alien for $10 and imagine our role as a button-pushing extra — maybe a sickbay male nurse. 

Who’s to blame when the movie Armageddon fires people up more than NASA had in 30+ years? Who knows? Maybe we just need a more charismatic crew. Put an astronaut up on the podium at a press conference and get him to sign off with “Yippee-kai-yay.” 

The media is equally to blame. NASA’s failures simply drive more traffic. The shuttle launch is a success, whoo. But did you hear about the foam?

* Endeavour Suffers Damage After Foam Breaks Off During Launch! – Courtesy MSNBC
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31960515/ns/local_news-mobile_al/
* Foam hits Endeavour after it finally lifts off – Houston Chronicle
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/breaking/6531464.html
* Debris breaks off Endeavour during launch – Stuff.co.nz
http://www.stuff.co.nz/science/2599544/Debris-breaks-off-Endeavour-during-launch

I wish I could hire the narrator who worked on the trailers for the old monster flicks. We’ll give it a spooky soundtrack and it’ll go viral on YouTube. Now that’s sensationalism. 

Will they make it? Did it damage the fuel tanks again? To drum up any interest in NASA, we need life-or-death implications – or a jazzy Aerosmith number and a pre-Bennifer Ben Affleck with a box of Animal Crackers. Yes, I know entirely too much about the movie, it’s inexcusable. 

From all of the coverage that I have read, I have learned one thing: In this economy, the majority would like cash to stay on this planet. That chunk of foam probably accounted for enough resources to build a new school in my hometown. We didn’t have media outlets scrutinizing the bottom line 40 years ago. Landing on the moon didn’t have a price tag; and we didn’t have analysts re-appropriating the funds to “worthier” causes.     

So we landed on the moon 40 years ago, big deal.

For the verbal lashing, post comments below, but I understand that many of you still prefer an abnormal, Jersey-like amount of cussing in your responses. To you, my email is always available, david.mantey@advantagemedia.com.

We Landed On The #Moon, Big Deal: All of a sudden people care about #NASA again, it’ll pass. ^DM http://bit.ly/EjNGk

[Letsbereal]

Jupiter apparently has been hit by an object.
http://www.pddnet.com/news-jupiter-takes-a-hit-072209/

Jupiter Takes A Hit

NASA images show Jupiter apparently has been hit by an object, possibly a comet.

PASADENA, Calif. (AP) — Astronomers say Jupiter has apparently been struck by an object, possibly a comet.

Images taken by NASA early Monday show a scar in the atmosphere near the south pole of the gas giant.

The images, taken by the space agency's infrared telescope in Hawaii, come on the 15th anniversary of another comet strike.

In 1994, Jupiter was bombarded by pieces of the comet Shoemaker-Levy 9.

Scientists at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena captured the new images after receiving a tip from an amateur astronomer the night before.



In this image released by NASA/JPL showing a large impact on Jupiter's south polar region captured on Monday,
July 20, 2009, by NASA's Infrared Telescope Facility in Mauna Kea,
Hawaii. Astronomers say Jupiter has apparently been struck by an object, possibly a comet. (AP Photo/NASA/JPL)

[Jackson Holly]

~ New MOON Rover ~

I first became aware of this when they put it in Obama's Inaugaral Parade.
Is this the "pickup" the posted articles are talking about?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



Astronauts Ride in Style in New Moon Truck

By Tariq Malik
Senior Editor
29 October 2008


NASA's new prototype for a future moon truck is proving to be the ultimate lunar RV, allowing astronauts to take extended road trips without the constant drag of bulky spacesuits.

A terrestrial version of the Small Pressurized Rover, which can go forward, reverse and side-to-side to tackle tough terrain, is completing a three-day drive across the Arizona desert today after a successful week of testing, NASA officials said.

"It's just an incredibly capable machine," said Doug Craig, NASA's strategic analysis manager for the exploration systems at the agency's headquarters in Washington, D.C. "It's going great and everyone's really pleased with it."

Astronauts and geologists split into two, two-person teams to test the unpressurized and pressurized rover versions on the barren Black Point lava fields of Arizona.

The rover is part of NASA's bid to return astronauts to the moon by 2020 under the Constellation program. While some engineers are developing program's Orion spacecraft, Ares I and V rockets, and Altair landers, others are testing how best to move astronauts on the moon once they get there.

Humans first drove vehicles on the moon in 1971, when Apollo 15 astronauts Dave Scott and Jim Irwin unfolded their electric Lunar Roving Vehicle from its berth on their Falcon lander. Two other moon cars followed on NASA's last two Apollo flights, but those rovers were built for limited trips.

"Those lunar rovers were disposable, so they were only going to be used for two or three days," Craig told SPACE.com. "These that we're looking now, we're looking at up to five years length on the moon."

The new moon trucks are designed to serve as either a cargo carrier or lunar buggy. The pressurized module version sports a pair of rear-mounted spacesuits with connecting backpacks. Astronauts would step into suits, shut the backpack hatch and then detach themselves for lunar exploration. The recent tests found rover drivers could suit up relatively easily, Craig said.

"We ended up having to build in hold times because they could get in and out so fast," he added.




Under NASA's current plan, two rover teams would take their moon trucks out on journeys that could last up to two weeks away from a lunar base. If one rover breaks down, all four astronauts could pile into the remaining vehicle and head home.

The new moon truck actually suffered a flat tire on Monday, with its drivers suiting up and successfully swapping out the flat with a new one, Craig added.

The longest ever lunar rover trip during the Apollo era covered just under 8 miles (12.5 km), according to NASA records.

"We're talking about hundreds of kilometers," Craig added. "This is a completely different paradigm than Apollo."

Entire Article Here:
http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/081029-tw-moonrover-chariot.html

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http://www.space.com/php/multimedia/imagegallery/igviewer.php?imgid=1509&gid=124



An artist's conception of the Project Constellation Moonbase.

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[TheCaliKid]

That first picture - it looks like garbage to me.

[Jackson Holly]

Pneumatic tires on the moon?   

Nasa says the Lunar tires were solid mesh ... then why mesh tires covered with mesh?


I have seen the following repeated a number of times ... but have not been able to confirm it:

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FACT: The lunar rover had inflatable tires which would have exploded if pre-inflated, and there was no air on the Moon to inflate them. Pro Apollo NUTTERS claim the rover had solid wire mesh tires. Yes the rover in the museum had these fitted in the mid 70’s when they realized pneumatic tires could not have functioned on the Moon. NASA have had 40 years in which to clear up the plainly obvious mistakes within the Apollo program.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message444997/pg1
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However ... NASA reports that the tires on this fancy new "rover" are pneumatic, but will have to be changed out for other technology when they put it on the Moon:

"Some scenarios have these rovers making their debut early in a return of humans to the moon. Other scenarios focus on other things first. Another scenario treats the rovers as the first lunar base - or a significant part thereof such that the "base" can move about the lunar surface, stop in one location for a while, and then move on. Which mode or modes are adopted is still not certain - and is dependent on whether the currently envisioned plan moves ahead at all.



Forgetting politics for a moment, the folks at NASA have managed to come up with a good guess at how such a rover might work - and have created something that you can drive. More importantly you can use it to perform meaningful work. To be certain, this is a vehicle that is designed to work on Earth - pneumatic tires, no life support system, etc. But that is not what it is designed to test. Rather, it is designed to be used as a rover might be used on the moon - not how you'd build the subsystems etc. for an actual moon rover. Once the utility requirements are firm, then you go and design the actual lunar rover."



http://onorbit.com/node/742

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[luckee1]

hmmm Does it have A/C and tinted windows?  What kind of sound system and hey a MP3 player?  Is it auto or standard, and ALBs?

[joeblack]

hmmm Does it have A/C and tinted windows?  What kind of sound system and hey a MP3 player?  Is it auto or standard, and ALBs?

does it really matter what it's got, we the people will never get to leave this planet! hope the automatic windows breaks halfway up.

[TheCaliKid]

Yeah, all that space sh*t for the rich and well-connected.

"Regular citizens in space" my ass. This world is so cruel, in every way imaginable.

[Jackson Holly]

burlguy:

If they where also made out of high temperature silicone they could with stand the heat for some time.

What high heat? Remember, that famous duct tape is holding up well!   

[Unintelligable Name]

On another topic the badastronomy forum is funded by NASA.... This was particularly interesting to me as that site takes the lead in promoting the Fraud and theft of trillions from the American public.

Sure what's a couple thousand in shills + hosting when you're ripping off trillions.

[Jackson Holly]

Must See!

 ... a little off topic here ... something we talked about a few pages back.

Ever since I discovered this video (about 7 min) I can't get it out of my mind's eye. I posted it before, but I'm afraid it got buried, as we were going pretty quickly in the thread then.

Anyway, it is a vid about the use of wires/scaffolding to fake the moon~walks. It starts with a few examples that look totally faked ... then they cut to a set where they ARE faking it for some movie, and you see how it is done ... then, back to the NASA clips.

THEN ... when you get to the 5 min mark ... OMFG! Someone explain this to me ... the astronaut is straining against the wires, being jerked around ... he seems to be hung up or at the end of the 'rail' ... or something ... the most obviously faked NASA footage that I have seen.   

DON'T MISS THIS ONE!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9kon-URcko&NR=1

[Homemadekrink]

40 years on and people still believe the lie

[luckee1]

Must See!

 ... a little off topic here ... something we talked about a few pages back.

    oops