NASA!!!...Psy-op, Photoshop, Terra-forming... What's Up, NASA?

[Jackson Holly]

^ ^ ^

I could show you my pictures of duct tape, 3 minutes, full blast in my micro-wave oven.

Or my pictures of duct tape 30 minutes in mid-day New Mexico summer sun. 

[TheCaliKid]

Something tells me that Vok-shod used to work for NASA or the aerospace industry..... 

[Voskhod3]

I could show you my pictures of duct tape, 3 minutes, full blast in my micro-wave oven.

Or my pictures of duct tape 30 minutes in mid-day New Mexico summer sun.  

Totally f*cking dumb.

You just don't get it do you.

Convection doesn't happen in a vacuum!

Please supply an engineering reason why the various tapes used by NASA on Apollo were unfit for the purpose they were used for.

Please provide an example.

[Dig]

The problem with the proof of the moon hoax is that its bogus. I have yet to see anything those hoax believer peddle that convinces me of any staged moon landing. the only thiong they can come up with is with pictures that supposed to show anomalies proofing the moon landing was staged but in the end they just dont understand physics and tons of other things. Its like with the 9/11 no planers. they believe 2 different camera angles are the same so the shifting buildings are proof of fakery. They cant be convinced otherwise. We went though alot of that kind of stuff in this thread. Every "proof" they use can be explained by 10 more logical and possible reasons than a staged landing. Truth is simple... the more complex things get the more you are off track. Like omfg no tracks of the rover... they used a crane and blablabla... well how about the astronauts were running around the rover doing science stuff and kicking dust around covering the tracks... its obvious when looking at the surface journal (but of course they are all fabricated). there are pictures where you see the tracks are covered over a quite wide area from just one astronaut walking over them. but no you just get shown a picture without any context, told there are no tracks it is fake no moon landing blablabla but its totally bogus. Its disinfo, a deception. Now we point that out and then are called some NASA loving operatives. Why? I was totally a hoax believer but I looked things up and found out its just garbage and have yet to see any proof. And saying Nazis run NASA isnt proof. It explains the occult dates NASA is doing things on, Hitlers birthday and such. Also whats the big deal with Nazis? Geez they still are the most demonized group. Many so called Nazi warcriminals were innocent. They were tortured after the war (often by zionists, look up William Perl) to force confessions and then got hanged. Nothing changed in that regard.

Now can we go back to the moon stuff?

woweeeeeeee! heil hitler! let the nazi scientists continue their eugenics/deception/space/nuke/bio/chem weaponry in peace. leave them alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Voskhod3]

Something tells me that Vok-shod used to work for NASA or the aerospace industry..... 

Is that bad?

You know.. like actually knowing what your talking about... is that bad?

[TheCaliKid]

Is that bad?

You know.. like actually knowing what your talking about... is that bad?

No, it's not "bad". There's nothing wrong with it. I used to be a big fan of the aerospace industry and all the new private up and comers......you know, like Scaled Composites, Space X, etc.


My issue with you is your attitude. If you would just kindly present your side of things, folks would be much more respective AND receptive. Just a thought....

[Voskhod3]

My issue with you is your attitude. If you would just kindly present your side of things, folks would be much more respective AND receptive. Just a thought....

No they wouldn't.

Honestly - been there, done that.

They'd still present dumb-ass oven experiments as though it's some kind of real science and ignore everything that they don't want to hear.

They'd still bang on about how hot or cold space is without any real understanding of physics.

Look at them in this thread.

[codemonkey70]

Vosk isnt so bad... just dont mention the color of poop. 

Seriously though, you guys need to keep fighting and bickering... some of us lurk and learn. 

[Voskhod3]

I presume that everyone believes that we have thousands of satellites orbiting the earth, some of them for years.

Do yourself a favour and Google "kapton tape" and satellites.

Oh.. but isn't that impossible!

[TheCaliKid]

No they wouldn't.

Honestly - been there, done that.

They'd still present dumb-ass oven experiments as though it's some kind of real science and ignore everything that they don't want to hear.

They'd still bang on about how hot or cold space is without any real understanding of physics.

Look at them in this thread.

Whatever floats your boat man. Most people here are probably about half your age anyway - just keep that in mind.






 

[Dustbunny]

Oh.. they didn't go to the moon but they went to mars? But.. but... but... what about the Van Allen Belt?

A space shuttle (ss) and a flying saucer (fs) are built quite differently, you see, a fs is wrapped around a nuclear reactor and a ss has just some ceramic tiles and and some steel to protect it... a fs has a who-knows-what alloy... research how a nuclear reactor is protected in a powerplant and you will get close... therefore, if you can be inside a fs, you can withstand the van allen belt.

[pcc]

Do you know why there is duct tape on every NASA flight?!?!?!?!

---------------------------------

Duct-Tape, Tranquilizers Part Of NASA's Plan For Mentally Unstable Astronauts In Space
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x274352
POSTED: 2:06 pm EST February 23, 2007

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. -- What would happen if an astronaut came unglued in space and, say, destroyed the ship's oxygen system or tried to open the hatch and kill everyone aboard?

That was the question on some minds after the apparent breakdown of Lisa Nowak, arrested in Orlando this month on charges she tried to kidnap and kill a woman she regarded as her rival for another astronaut's affections.

It turns out NASA has a detailed set of written procedures for dealing with a suicidal or psychotic astronaut in space. The documents, obtained this week by The Associated Press, say the astronaut's crewmates should bind his wrists and ankles with duct tape, tie him down with a bungee cord and inject him with tranquilizers if necessary.


"Talk with the patient while you are restraining him," the instructions say. "Explain what you are doing, and that you are using a restraint to ensure that he is safe."

The instructions do not spell out what happens after that.

well now, perhaps Sane is not sane but actually inSane.. but if Sane was inSane who would be Sane?
what was inSane before Sane was? or has Sane always been inSane? only the insane would want to be inSane..
unless of course you were Sane.. hope this clears things up
one of theses days Alice.. one of theses days..
someone get the duct tape please..

[Dig]

well now, perhaps Sane is not sane but actually inSane.. but if Sane was inSane who would be Sane?
what was inSane before Sane was? or has Sane always been inSane? only the insane would want to be inSane..
unless of course you were Sane.. hope this clears things up
one of theses days Alice.. one of theses days..
someone get the duct tape please..

the nickname is to compensate, you had to let them know

[pcc]

sorry about that.. they are giving me my pills now so all should be ok after awhile..

[Jackson Holly]

What is it again that those Masonic/Illuminati bastards say about playing both sides?



NAZI von Braun


DEMOCRAT von Braun


NAZI von Braun


REPUBLICAN von Braun


REAL? von Braun


HOLLYWOOD von Braun

~~~~~~~~~~

The Underground Reich. The Secret Worlds of the Nazis


NAZI von Braun at underground slave labor facility

~~~~~~~~~

More here about the secret slave labor rocket facilities that Sane posted about:

http://www.geschichteinchronologie.ch/judentum-aktenlage/hol/bunkerbau-SpiegelTV2003_the-underground-reich-ENGL.html

[Letsbereal]

Tom Lehrer - Wernher von Braun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEJ9HrZq7Ro

[Jackson Holly]

^^^


   Nice ... thanks man ... great find.

[TheCaliKid]

Standing in the White Room, even the LAST HUMAN BEING that the Apollo (Lucifer) astronauts saw before blastoff was a "former" Nazi:




The whole f**king program was filled with Nazi's. This is something that Vok-Shod cannot deny ( *patiently awaits for lame comment to be posted by Vok-Shod* ) 

[Dig]

Tom Lehrer - Wernher von Braun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEJ9HrZq7Ro

"Once zeee rockets go up, who cares where they come down...that's not my department!" says Wehrner von Braun!

[Dig]

MKUltra/Project Monarch's experience playing "Most Dangerous Game" with Richard Cheney on a Hunting Range:
The Most Dangerous Game
Excerpt from Trance-Formation of America by Cathy O'Brien and Mark Phillips

   
During Christmas vacation of 1974, my father flew us all to Disney World by route of Tampa, Florida. Ignorant of geography, it did not occur to me that Tampa was out of the way to Disney World until my father drove the rented van to the gates of MacDill Air Force Base. Military personnel met me there and escorted me into the base TOP SECRET high tech mind control conditioning facility for "behavioral modification" programming. This was the first in what became a routine series of mind control testing and/or programming sessions on government installations that I would endure throughout my Project Monarch victimization. Whether I was in a military, NASA, or government building, the procedure for maintaining me under total mind control remained consistent with Project Monarch requirements. This included prior physical and/or psychological trauma; sleep, food, and water deprivation; high voltage electric shock; and hypnotic and/or harmonic programming of specific memory compartments/ personalities. The high tech equipment and methodisms I endured from that time on gave the U.S. government absolute control of my mind and life. I had been literally driven out of my conscious mind and existed only through my programmed subconscious. I lost my free will, ability to reason, and could not think to question anything that was happening to me. I could only do as I was told. In the summer of 1975, my family drove all the way from Michigan to the Teton Mountains of Wyoming. I was ordered to ride in the back storage area of the family Chevy Suburban since I was forbidden to associate or communicate with my brothers and sister. So I dissociated into books, or into the metaphorical, hypnotic suggestions from my father and tranced deeper as I watched the prairie's seemingly endless sea of "amber waves of grain" streak past my window. Once when we stopped at a gas station, my father took me inside to show me a stuffed "jackalope" mounted on the wall. Due to my tranced, dissociative state and high suggestibility level, I believed it was indeed a cross between a jack rabbit and antelope. It was 100+ degrees in the Badlands when it cooled down at night. The intense heat of the day accentuated my ever increasing thirst. My father was physically preparing me though water deprivation for the intense tortures and programming I would endure in Wyoming. Dick Cheney, then White House Chief of Staff to President Ford, later Secretary of Defense to President George Bush, documented member of the Council on Foreign relations (CFR), and Presidential hopeful for 1996, was originally Wyoming's only Congressman. Dick Cheney was the reason my family had traveled to Wyoming where I endured yet another form of brutality -- his version of "A Most Dangerous Game," or human hunting. It is my understanding now that A Most Dangerous Game was devised to condition military personnel in survival and combat maneuvers. Yet it was used on me and other slaves known to me as a means of further conditioning the mind to the realization there was "no place to hide," as well as traumatize the victim for ensuing programming. It was my experience over the years that A Most Dangerous Game had numerous variations on the primary theme of being stripped naked and turned loose in the wilderness while being hunted by men and dogs. In reality, all "wilderness" areas were enclosed in secure military fencing whereby it was only a matter of time until I was caught, repeatedly raped, and tortured.

Dick Cheney had an apparent addiction to the "thrill of the sport." He appeared obsessed with playing A Most Dangerous Game as a means of traumatizing mind control victims, as well as to satisfy his own perverse sexual kinks. My introduction to the game occurred upon arrival at the hunting lodge near Greybull, Wyoming, and it physically and psychologically devastated me. I was sufficiently traumatized for Cheney's programming, as I stood naked in his hunting lodge office after being hunted down and caught. Cheney was talking as he paced around me, "I could stuff you and mount you like a jackalope and call you a two legged dear. Or I could stuff you with this (he unzipped his pants to reveal his oversized penis) right down your throat, and then mount you. Which do you prefer?" Blood and sweat became mixed with the dirt on my body and slid like mud down my legs and shoulder. I throbbed with exhaustion and pain as I stood unable to think to answer such a question. "Make up your mind," Cheney coaxed. Unable to speak, I remained silent. "You don't get a choice, anyway. I make up your mind for you. That's why you're here. For me to make you a mind, and make you mine/mind. You lost your mind a long time ago. Now I'm going to give you one. Just like the Wizard (of Oz) gave Scarecrow a brain, the Yellow Brick Road led you here to me. You've 'come such a long, long way' for your brain, and I will give you one." The blood reached my shoes and caught my attention. Had I been further along in my programming, I perhaps would never have noticed such a thing or had the capability to think to wipe it away. But so far, I had only been to MacDill and Disney World for government/military programming. At last, when I could speak, I begged, "If you don't mind, can I please use your bathroom?" Cheney's face turned red with rage. He was on me in an instant, slamming my back into the wall with one arm across my chest and his hand on my throat, choking me while applying pressure to the carotid artery in my neck with his thumb. His eyes bulged and he spit as he growled, "If you don't mind me, I will kill you. I could kill you -- Kill you -- with my bare hands. You're not the first and you won't be the last. I'll kill you any time I goddamn well please." He flung me on the cot-type bed that as behind me. There he finished taking his rage out on me sexually. On the long trip back to Michigan, I lay in a heap behind the seats of the Suburban, nauseated and hurting from Cheney's brutality and high voltage tortures, plus the whole Wyoming experience. My father stopped by the waterfalls flowing through the Tetons to "wash my brain" of the memory of Cheney. I could barely walk through the woods to the falls for the process as instructed, despite having learned my lessons well from Cheney on following orders. The next year when our "annual" trip to Disney World rolled around, my father drove, pulling his new Holiday Rambler Royale International trailer. My father dropped me off en route at the Kennedy Space Center in Titusville, Florida where I was subjected to my first NASA programming. From then on, I was "obsessed" with following the "Yellow Brick Road" to Nashville, Tennessee. Moving to Nashville was all I could talk about. If anyone asked me the question I could not think to ask myself "Why?", I would respond by reiterating it was something "I had to do."

[Dig]

Brice Taylor
http://educate-yourself.org/mc/index.shtml

 Brice Taylor is the pseudonym for Susan Ford, one of the highest level MK Ultra mind controlled victims to ever come forward and reveal her story. It took her nearly 13 years to recover the memories of the events that she reveals in her book, Thanks for The Memories (published in May 1999). Her memories began to return in sporadic fragments in1985, following a car accident that threw her through the windshield of her car after hitting a tree. It wasn't really an accident as much as a result of mind control programming which compelled her to commit suicide if she began to recover critical memories about her role as a top level NASA/CIA mind controlled 'asset' who was used as a sex slave and message (or drug) courier for every president from Kennedy to Clinton and was Henry Kissinger's personal secretary/human computer (file storage and retrieval) for over 19 years. Her 'owner/handler' was comedian Bob Hope and she was 'loaned out' to many famous and well known entertainment personalities in order to oblige them to be beholding to and manipulated by Hope and his Illuminati pals so they could be used as "worker bees' to help usher in the Luciferian, New World Order. Her book is probably the most revealing account to date of well known, national personalities in both politics and the entertainment industry who are involved in the handling, programming, control, manipulation, and abuse of Illuminati/government created human robots like Brice or other, well known celebrity/mind control victims such as Barbara Striesand and Barbara Mandrel. The book's Table of Contents alone will give you an idea of the incredible number of nationally known names that Brice had been involved with from childhood into adulthood as a mind controlled slave. In my opinion, Thanks for The Memories and the two co-authored Illuminati Formula books of Cisco Wheeler and Fritz Springmeir (see below) are the three most important and revealing books in print on the subject of Illuminati mind control and should be read by every concerned and thinking human being on this planet, for they reveal how the Illuminati mind control programs are accomplished and how they can be broken, allowing the victim to escape from its control.

[Dig]

The NASA Nazi's were behind the MK Ultra trauma based mind control training!

Rockefeller covered it up!

[Dig]

Theosophy / MK Ultra connection?

Interview with MK Ultra Victim Cathy O'Brien...


http://tracyrtwyman.com/blog/?page_id=82

TT: You said that they controlled the music you heard. What did they want you to listen to?

Cathy: There was a lot of music going on back those days that I have missed and have only found since I have been recovered and deprogrammed and have been able to choose music for myself. But the 60s freedom music I didn’t get to listen to, and any kind of protest, or anything like that. Instead I had to listen to country music. That ultimately was the industry that I traveled in during the Reagan/Bush administration, under the control primarily of Senator Byrd, who was my owner in MK-ULTRA.

TT: When did Senator Byrd become your controller? And what was he like back then? Because now he’s sort of a doddering old man. He’s always shaking. Was he like that when you knew him.

Cathy: No. I’ve been familiar with him all my life, or all of my mind-controlled existence rather. Because there’s not any “life” under mind control per se, because there’s no capacity for free thought, no capacity for free will, or ultimately any soul expression. So I could only robotically do the things that I was told to do, and during those years I was exposed to numerous high-profile political perpetrators that were involved in MK-ULTRA. They are, of course, named in our book, The Trance-formation of America.

TT: What was the progression of controllers that you had. Was there more than one at a time?

Cathy: I had what is termed “handlers”, and handlers would make sure that I was in various places at certain times, either on military or NASA installations for mind control programming, or in and out of Washington, D.C. I traveled under the guise of the country music industry, because it provided a means of travel in and out of the Caribbean, Mexico, and Canada, which were primarily the areas I was used in, as well as all across the United States. So my handler would make sure that I was in designated areas at specific times, either for programming, or to carry out the covert operations that I was used in during the Reagan/Bush administration.

TT: OK, so Senator Byrd was not the only one. Is there a difference between a handler and an owner, or a controller?

Cathy: I had two different handlers in the course of being under absolute robotic mind control, and my father, I’m sure, would be considered a handler as well, because once he agreed to raise me according to government specifications, he followed their instructions and followed what they told him to do with me, and where to take me, how to condition me, how to control my environment, and things like that. So in essence, he was my first handler. When MK-ULTRA came into my life, the regimentation, the systematic kind of conditioning and abuse and programming that I received from that point on was far more structured than the natural high suggestibility resultant from the incest and the pornography that I was used in as a very young child. My father was approached and told. He didn’t think to do this on his own, in other words. He was being told. So he became a handler. Handlers follow instructions. Owners are the ones who decide which projects or which operations to use someone in, and in my case, that was Senator Byrd, and that was how I ended up on a higher government level. I first met him at Mackinaw Island, at the Governor’s mansion when I was 13 years old, and that’s when he became my owner, which lasted throughout my victimization right up until Mark rescued my daughter and I in 1988.

TT: As far as the operations that you were used in for Project Monarch - it started out with prostitution and pornography, right?

Cathy: Right.

TT: And then did it move into other areas? Were you used as a drug mule?

Cathy: Well, I think the next step that was so significant to me was the use of occultism. At that time the local Catholic church - and again, I’m not saying that all Catholics are involved and that they’re all bad, but there is a criminal faction within the Catholic Church, within the Order of the Jesuits, which is the intelligence arm of the Vatican, a part of which my family ultimately had ties into and was a further causation for me to be victimized within the church system. But nevertheless, the Catholic church was heavily involved in the sexual abuse of children, which was widespread and has definitely come to light. They’ve had to pay out on numerous child abuse cases as a result. But the reversal of the Catholic Mass is, of course, Satanism, and being exposed to Satanism is definitely trauma too horrible to comprehend. Any kind of blood trauma like that is really horrible, and that was used to further dissociate my mind, further compartmentalize it for future programming. And that theme was used right through my second handler. Well, really, right on through my whole victimization there was always some aspect of occultism that came in as well. And alien themes were also a very common trauma base. Anything that’s beyond our ability to affect or control, or something in our minds that we perceive as too big to be able to affect like that is what they would use to ultimately gain control. Superstition begins where knowledge leaves off, and superstition makes a person more suggestible and easily controlled, so they definitely used superstitious kind of themes to further program. Those were significant trauma bases.

TT: Yeah, I understand from your book that there were Satanic rituals that took place at this Catholic church. Were there Satanic rituals that took place elsewhere throughout your life?

Cathy: Definitely, and so often they’re done more as a trauma base for mind control. It’s even used in the military which, for example, has the occult Temple of Set, which is supposedly more intellectually based, which is used to traumatize people. That leaves them widely suggestible for mind control programming. It’s a very deliberate method, and it has proliferated heavily on our military bases. And it was certainly a part of my victimization right up until Mark rescued my daughter and I. And I say “rescued” because I had lost my ability to even think to survive. There was nothing I could do to pull us out of our situation. I couldn’t think about what was happening. I was so robotic by that time. It took someone with eyes to see and ears to hear, and a heart to care to be able to take us out of the situation that we were in.

TT: You seem to be saying that these people were not religiously Satanists. They were just using it to control people.

Cathy: Oftentimes that was the case.

TT: But do you think there is a spiritual aspect to this, where they actually believe in the power of Satan, or of these other gods?

Cathy: I think there are some that believe that, but the primary mind control programmers who use that for a theme certainly know better and know that the so-called “Satanic power” was in the form of a stun gun and sophisticated mind control programming methodisms that included harmonics, and a deliberate, systematic use of sleep, food, and water deprivation. That was what they really knew to be the ultimate power, and didn’t have anything to do with anything spiritual.

TT: There was, in your programming, a lot of imagery from Disney and other popular children’s movies which was used. And also there was something you were forced to participate in called “The Most Dangerous Game.” Have you seen that movie, The Most Dangerous Game?

Cathy: No.

TT: It’s this movie from the 50s about human hunting.

Cathy: I wonder if that was based on the military maneuver, or if the military maneuver sprang from it. I’m not familiar with that movie, but I am familiar with the military maneuver of playing “The Most Dangerous Game”, where a person is in the woods and attempting to survive while they’re being hunted. That was the kind of trauma that I was exposed to for programming purposes.

TT: I thought that it was significant when I found this out the other day: one of Anton LaVey’s favorite places in the world was Disneyland, and his daughter, Zeena LaVey’s favorite movie was The Most Dangerous Game.

Cathy: I think one of the strongest weapons is a scramble of fantasy and reality, kind of along the same lines as military programming tactics. They use a video game for military training, and they can’t tell reality from the video, so when they’re actually in a combat situation, it’s more like they’re just playing out a video game. They loose their ability to consciously comprehend what they’re doing, and to be able to critically analyze it, which is really essential. And so they end up just being able to point and shoot, point and shoot, without giving it any real thought to the magnitude of what’s actually happening. They’ll play it out more like a video game. And oftentimes with mind control programming, they would attempt to scramble it with a movie, hence the conditioning of the Disney movies and all, which were quite extensively used.

But the primary one which was used was The Wizard of Oz, because of the kind of dimensional aspects that come into play of “over the rainbow.” We see a lot of indications that this is still going on today.

TT: Do you think that the movies were written and edited specifically for the use of mind control, or was the mind control adapted to the movies?

Cathy: That’s a good question, and I wouldn’t really know.

TT: When your father started participating in Project Monarch, didn’t you say that Gerald Ford came over to the house to give him instructions?

Cathy: Well, he was a local politician, and as his career escalated, so too did my victimization. But then, again, I don’t know how you wanna go about naming names and the best way to put it in this particular article, so I’ll leave it up to you and your discretion. But ultimately for names, I think I’d refer ‘em to the book, because The Trance-formation of America was written for the U.S. Congressional Select Committee on Intelligence Oversight, and the facts that are in the book are all well-documented, where they would be able to have a point of reference for understanding exactly the material that was written there, probably more so that the average person on the street. So the documentation, the absolute facts, and names are definitely in the book.

[Dig]

Why the 911 hijackers were not Al-Qaeda or Taliban and why the detainees will be our future bin-Ladens.
http://www.opednews.com/populum/diarypage.php?did=12995

When the CIA released 18,000 pages regarding MK-ULTRA, it represented the cleaned version of what was destroyed by Richard Helms CIA director in 1973. These programs were supposed to have been abandoned under the claim that they were never able to succeed in the DELTA application of any of the 150 projects created. However, there is no conclusive evidence the CIA actually succeeded in controlling a person’s actions through mind control.  The documents destroyed would have included:  JFK (Oswald) , RFK (Sirhan Sirhan) and other DELTA successes. To this day Sirhan has no knowledge of his actions.

Once the leaks got out, investigations under the Church Committee and Rockefeller Commission were set up to misinform and console the public that these operation were in violation of civil liberties and the Nuremberg Codes and would be dismantled.  A well orchestrated combination of Supreme Court involvement, the senate hearings and media blitz truly worthy of four star deception and propaganda. The decision then was to move all operations to clandestine locations and with private sector operations. Set up in Canada, South and Central America and Asian locations. One prime example was Jonestown in Guyana.

The funding for these operations could no longer run through defense budgets so it required that the CIA set up offshore banking and vacuum corporations. The funds were and have been derived from the drug trade largely controlled by CIA, Homeland Security and a portion of the law enforcement community. A best example is the Arkansas,  Mena Airport central distribution point. This Op played a large role in Iran-Contra and other secret government projects outside the MK projects.  Bill Clinton was instrumental to Reagan-Bush operations.

The drug trade has been a huge success for our government. Their error though, is not staging enough drug busts over the last twenty years. It has become quite noticeable and they have failed to keep up the appearance.  The Cartels have had a free run into the US and other countries. Columbia Cocaine being a large US supplier and Afghanistan heroin to Europe and Canada.

The Mind Control projects have flourished since 1976. Using ALPHA, BETA and DELTA programming. Earlier I discussed the Reagan - Gorbachev 180 degree scenario. It opened up the Ex-Soviet Union to be the provider of the largest slave trading enterprise in history.

ALPHA PROGRAMMING (1, 2) - DRUG, SUGGESTION & DIALECTIC
SUBJECTS: Population at large (media, fear, antidepressants, etc.)

* Materials which will render the induction of hypnosis easier or otherwise enhance its usefulness.
* Substances which will promote illogical thinking and impulsiveness to the point where the recipient would be discredited in public
* Substances which alter personality structure in such a way that the tendency of the recipient to become dependent upon another person is enhanced.
* Materials which will produce the signs and symptoms of recognized diseases in a reversible way so that they may be used for malingering, etc.

BETA PROGRAMMING (3) - DRUG, HYPNOSIS, OVERLAY & TRANSCENDENTAL DIALECTIC SUBJECTS - Sex slave trade

* Second stage substances, and dependencies
* hypnosis and command overlays
* loss of inhibition and fear
* loyalty to “handlers”

DELTA PROGRAMMING (4) - DRUG, HYPNOSIS, RE-IMPRINTING & TRANSCENDENTAL DIALECTIC SUBJECTS - POLITICAL OFFICIALS AND PUBLIC CULTURE FIGURES

* Second stage substances, and dependencies
* hypnosis and command overwrites
* loss of inhibition and fear
* loyalty to “handlers”
* re-imprinting behavior as to right or wrong
* invoking megalomania “super being”

DELTA PROGRAMMING (5) - DRUG, HYPNOSIS, RE-IMPRINTING & TRANSCENDENTAL DIALECTIC SUBJECTS - POLITICAL OFFICIALS , PUBLIC CULTURE FIGURES & LONERS

* Second stage substances, and dependencies
* hypnosis and command overwrites
* loss of inhibition and fear
* loyalty to “handlers”
* re-imprinting behavior as to right or wrong
* invoking megalomania “super being”
* setting trigger command for action of any kind “sleeper”

Examples could be seen as this:

Beta 3 - Children on your milk cartons, Paris Hilton, Jon Bonet Ramsey, Michael Jackson, Boys Town in Nebraska (under King as the handler) Cathy O’Brien (Transformation of America)

Delta 4 - *JOHN McCAIN* , Bill Clinton (through Rhodes Scholarship Selection),  G W Bush (Scull and Bones), Barack Obama, Justice Clarence Thomas or Justice Scalia, Madeline Albright, etc.

Delta 5 - Lee Harvey Oswald, Sirhan Sirhan, Ted Kaczynski, Timothy McVeigh, Columbine: aka Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold and Seung-Hui Cho at Virginia Tech

Who were really in the planes tha hit the WTC? Were they UCAV's? If there were pilots on board, they weren't suicide muslims for the glory of Allah. They were CIA Home Brewed Delta subjects. These detainees moved from Gitmo to Morocco and other secret locations are the answer to the question and the secret ingredient in the recipe for WOT.

Area 51 in Nevada has likely produced some of these Delta sleepers. Under the constant disinformation and conspiracies surrounding UFO’s it is the best perpetrated con played by government on it’s people. The reality of what goes on there will always be linked to ET and not MK Ultra as it should be. There is a possibility of NASA BLUE BEAM research there as well.

One day a call will come to John Doe at home. The caller will say the weather will be nice this Sunday. John Doe will respond with the handlers name. The caller will hit six keypad tones on the phone and the next day a man will walk into the the Main Street Savings and Loan and withdrawl a dozen lives with an AK-47.

[Voskhod3]

The whole f**king program was filled with Nazi's. This is something that Vok-Shod cannot deny ( *patiently awaits for lame comment to be posted by Vok-Shod* ) 

Oh.. so now that we've moved on from "we never went to the moon" to "nazis sent us to the moon".

OK.

Mental.

I'll come back when you want to discuss the science of Apollo.

[Voskhod3]

He doesn't want to listen - he just wants to spam his disinfo down everyone's throats

Proving the claim about the "still wrapped Lunar Rover" was a crock - disinfo?
Proving that the "lighted diiferent" claim was a deception - disinfo?
Proving that a melting tape in an oven experiment is totally dumb-ass - disinfo?
Proving that photographed shadows don't cast parallel lines - disinfo?
Proving that hoax believers know nothing about the various kinds of tape used on Apollo - disinfo?

Jeeze.

You have a strange concept of 'disinfo'.

Oh I get it... 'disinfo' is anything you don't want to hear.

Maybe I should leave you in the fantasy world you so wish to live in.

[iks83]

They live in a very twisted reality, forged their generalized opinion based on false claims and propaganda, puke it all into a bucket and call it the larger picture. They jump from issue to issue when their claims are being debunked, post interviews of shady persons that tell a nice story with nothing to back them up and tell us thats proof.

[phasma]

Guys - did you hear? 4PM SKY news today (4PM LONDON TIME) - Nasa press con, containing previously unseen, just "found" footage from moon landing.
Its "much" clearer than previous footage

(HD?) make of this what you will guys.

[Dig]

Proving the claim about the "still wrapped Lunar Rover" was a crock - disinfo?
Proving that the "lighted diiferent" claim was a deception - disinfo?
Proving that a melting tape in an oven experiment is totally dumb-ass - disinfo?
Proving that photographed shadows don't cast parallel lines - disinfo?
Proving that hoax believers know nothing about the various kinds of tape used on Apollo - disinfo?

Jeeze.

You have a strange concept of 'disinfo'.

Oh I get it... 'disinfo' is anything you don't want to hear.

Maybe I should leave you in the fantasy world you so wish to live in.

Cathy O'Brien is disinfo?

What are you talking about? Are you completely crazy?

[Kilika]

Sometimes I wonder. You should check out how unstable he's been in disputing with Christians. He's been doing the exact same mindless arguing in several other threads.

[Voskhod3]

Cathy O'Brien is disinfo?

What are you talking about? Are you completely crazy?

What are you talking about?

[Voskhod3]

Og look, the christians have arrived...

Sometimes I wonder. You should check out how unstable he's been in disputing with Christians. He's been doing the exact same mindless arguing in several other threads.

Proving the claim about the "still wrapped Lunar Rover" was a crock - mindless?
Proving that the "lighted diiferent" claim was a deception - mindless?
Proving that a melting tape in an oven experiment is totally dumb-ass - mindless?
Proving that photographed shadows don't cast parallel lines - mindless?
Proving that hoax believers know nothing about the various kinds of tape used on Apollo - mindless?

You have an interesting concept of mindless.

As for 'disputing christains'.. I'd say outing biblically justified racism is actually a good thing.

[Voskhod3]

In a normal world, sh*t like the following quote would be considered unstable.

Results of my highly scientific study:

Regular 3M duct tape ... one minute in a 250 degree oven



Try it yourself!

Yeah.. but I'm the unstable one, I'm the spreading disinfo... la la la.

[DAVIDENGLAND]

Guys - did you hear? 4PM SKY news today (4PM LONDON TIME) - Nasa press con, containing previously unseen, just "found" footage from moon landing.
Its "much" clearer than previous footage

(HD?) make of this what you will guys.

Digitally Enhanced -

Nasa finds lunar landing footage

New footage of the first moon landings is to be released 40 years after the actual event.

US space agency Nasa says footage of the 1969 live broadcast of the Apollo 11 moonwalk landing features 15 key moments of the astronauts on their extraordinary journey.

The footage has been digitally enhanced to provide clearer images, Nasa added.

The anniversary of the first landing on the moon is on June 21. Commander Neil Armstrong stepped out first with Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin following.

It is thought 78-year-old Mr Armstrong will not attend Nasa's official anniversary celebrations.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090716/twl-nasa-finds-lunar-landing-footage-41f21e0.html

[phasma]

Now these days i can believe it could be faked - but back then !?

[iks83]

Digitally Enhanced -

Nasa finds lunar landing footage

New footage of the first moon landings is to be released 40 years after the actual event.

US space agency Nasa says footage of the 1969 live broadcast of the Apollo 11 moonwalk landing features 15 key moments of the astronauts on their extraordinary journey.

The footage has been digitally enhanced to provide clearer images, Nasa added.

4 questions... yeah? and? so? what? Does digitally enhanced mean "faked" for you? They dont release new new footage like never seen footage. They release the old footage but digitally enhanced so where is the problem? Do you think they edit out stuff they missed the first time or fix the inconsistencies? Apollo 11... directors cut...

[mym]

why don't they just go back to the moon and cut us a slice of cheese and bring it back for us all to eat  

[Dustbunny]

Nasa could easily prove they went to the moon, I'm talking about the mission later this year... LCROSS has a camera onboard, why not show us the rover on the moon's surface to shut us up for good? Because there is no rover there!

[Voskhod3]

Nasa could easily prove they went to the moon, I'm talking about the mission later this year... LCROSS has a camera onboard, why not show us the rover on the moon's surface to shut us up for good?

If NASA did that, would you believe it?

Of course you wouldn't.

[DAVIDENGLAND]

4 questions... yeah? and? so? what? Does digitally enhanced mean "faked" for you? They dont release new new footage like never seen footage. They release the old footage but digitally enhanced so where is the problem? Do you think they edit out stuff they missed the first time or fix the inconsistencies? Apollo 11... directors cut...

Well why not just show the raw footage? Why does it have to be altered/enhanced? Personally I don't believe they have 'found' anything as I don't believe it was lost in the first place. Such a coincidence that the footage turns up nice and enhanced for the 40th anniversary. What are you some sort of mug who believes everything that you are told by NASA?