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Author Topic: U.S. Navy Won't Let Iran Shut Gulf, Will Defend Ships  (Read 1499 times)
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« on: July 05, 2008, 01:18:32 AM »

ABU DHABI (Reuters) - The United States will not allow Iran to block the Gulf, which carries crude from the world's largest oil exporting region, and would defend its ships in the waterway, the U.S. Navy's Fifth Fleet said on Wednesday.

"I believe ... Iran will not attempt to close the Strait of Hormuz and we will not allow them to close the Strait of Hormuz. I can't say it anymore clearly than that," Vice-Admiral Kevin Cosgriff, the commander of the U.S. Navy's Fifth Fleet, told a conference on Gulf naval security in Abu Dhabi.

The head of Iran's Revolutionary Guards said in remarks published last week that Tehran would impose controls on shipping in the Gulf and the strategic Strait of Hormuz if it was attacked.

Fear of an escalation in the standoff between the West and Iran, the world's fourth largest oil producer, has helped propel oil prices over $140 a barrel.

Speculation about a possible attack on Iran because of its nuclear program has risen since a report last month said Israel had practiced such a strike.

Western powers say they fear Iran is seeking to develop nuclear weapons under cover of a civilian nuclear program. Tehran says the work aims to generate power.

"Regardless of what might precipitate an entity or a country to attempt to close the strait ... it is an international affront that is saying to the world that the nearly 40 percent of the world's oil and the significant amount of natural gas which goes through the strait is now being held hostage by a single country," he said.

"I think the international community would find its voice rapidly and insist that whoever was attempting to do this cease and desist."

There have been repeated ALLEGED incidents in the Gulf, where the Fifth Fleet is based, in which the U.S. ships have come close to skirmishing with approaching boats in the busy waterway.

A cargo ship hired by the U.S. military fired warning shots at approaching boats in the Gulf in April, underscoring regional tensions. In January, the United States said five small Iranian speedboats aggressively approached three U.S. Navy ships in the start and warned they could explode.

Iran said its boats were simply trying to identify the U.S. vessels and military experts have since said the warning may have come from an independent radio operator.

Asked whether he was worried such incidents could escalate, Cosgriff said U.S. naval officers would defend their ships.

"There is not a captain or admiral in the United States Navy who does not know we buried 20 sailors to successful small boat attacks against our ships...over the last eight years," he said.

"There is not a captain or admiral in the United States Navy who is not ready to defend his or her ship to their utmost capability."

Part of the problem, he said was that it was not clear who was in control of the Iran's Revolutionary Guard naval activities -- Tehran or local commanders.

"I am concerned about that country's ability to control its own armed forces and in this case the Revolutionary Guard forces and I think the region should be concerned about that," he added.
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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2008, 02:38:14 PM »

Two words for the US Navy. ONYX.....MISSILE.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakhont
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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2008, 02:42:24 PM »

Two words for the US Navy. ONYX.....MISSILE.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakhont


I thought the russian made, sunburn/sunburst missile is the one that the US ships have no defense against.. Iran is said to have them and will gladly use them against US ships.
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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2008, 02:54:17 PM »

I thought the russian made, sunburn/sunburst missile is the one that the US ships have no defense against.. Iran is said to have them and will gladly use them against US ships.

Ever tried intercepting a Mach 2.5 capable missile flying just a few feet above the surface of the water? The Sunburn is also a threat, though. Nice job pointing that out. Whichever one the Iranians use, the carrier groups are going to have a hell of a fight on their hands.

Speaking of Russian technology, I wonder where the Admiral Kuznetsov carrier group is now??? They were on a training tour a while back. I never heard if they returned to Russia or are still out there somewhere.
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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2008, 07:31:17 PM »

Check out this page.
http://judicial-inc.biz/Sunburn_Missile.htm

The attack is possible because of these missiles, as well as the location. The US Fifth fleet sits in the Persian Gulf - which is a small bay surrounded by rugged mountains and a 20-mile-wide entrance. These missiles are unstoppable, and the 5th fleet is in range of Iran's land facilities.
 
 
   
Sunburn Missile
 
   
 
Unstoppable 
 


Specs

The Raduga Moskit anti-ship missile is perhaps the most lethal anti-ship missile in the world. The MOSKIT is designed to fly as low as 9 feet at over 1,500 miles per hour, faster than a rifle bullet. The missile uses a violent pop-up maneuver for its terminal approach to throw off Phalanx and other anti-missile defense.

Warhead - 200 KILOTON NUCLEAR
Range - 90 MILES 
Size - 31.9 FEET
Speed - MACH 2.5 AT SEA LEVEL

The Yakhonts 26 replaces the Sunburn 22. There is absolutely no way to avoid the missile.

Range
 250-300 Km
 
Speed
 Mach 2.5
 
 
   
   
Exocet missile
   

Iran has 300 of these.

 
 
Exocet missiles cost approximately $250,000 in 1970, and older versions are selling for $ 75,000.
 
 
Maximum Speed  Mach 0.93 
Maximum effective range   65 km 

 

 

 

Iran's Ballistic missiles



     Amount
 Range
  Shahab- I 300
 320 Km
  Shahab- 2 100
 500 Km
  Shahab- 3 a handful
 1300 Km
  CSS-8 Missiles  200 Chinese 200
 150 Km         Iran's missile capabilities
 


 


 
 
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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2008, 07:51:11 PM »

http://thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=2465

Implications For US Forces in the Gulf

The US Navy’s only plausible defense against a robust weapon like the Sunburn missile is to detect the enemy’s approach well ahead of time, whether destroyers, subs, or fighter-bombers, and defeat them before they can get in range and launch their deadly cargo. For this purpose US AWACs radar planes assigned to each naval battle group are kept aloft on a rotating schedule. The planes “see” everything within two hundred miles of the fleet, and are complemented with intelligence from orbiting satellites.

But US naval commanders operating in the Persian Gulf face serious challenges that are unique to the littoral, i.e., coastal, environment. A glance at a map shows why: The Gulf is nothing but a large lake, with one narrow outlet, and most of its northern shore, i.e., Iran, consists of mountainous terrain that affords a commanding tactical advantage over ships operating in Gulf waters. The rugged northern shore makes for easy concealment of coastal defenses, such as mobile missile launchers, and also makes their detection problematic. Although it was not widely reported, the US actually lost the battle of the Scuds in the first Gulf War –– termed “the great Scud hunt” –– and for similar reasons. Saddam Hussein’s mobile Scud launchers proved so difficult to detect and destroy –– over and over again the Iraqis fooled allied reconnaissance with decoys –– that during the course of Desert Storm the US was unable to confirm even a single kill. This proved such an embarrassment to the Pentagon, afterwards, that the unpleasant stats were buried in official reports. But the blunt fact is that the US failed to stop the Scud attacks. The launches continued until the last few days of the conflict. Luckily, the Scud’s inaccuracy made it an almost useless weapon. At one point General Norman Schwarzkopf quipped dismissively to the press that his soldiers had a greater chance of being struck by lightning in Georgia than by a Scud in Kuwait.

But that was then, and it would be a grave error to allow the Scud’s ineffectiveness to blur the facts concerning this other missile. The Sunburn’s amazing accuracy was demonstrated not long ago in a live test staged at sea by the Chinese –– and observed by US spy planes. Not only did the Sunburn missile destroy the dummy target ship, it scored a perfect bull’s eye, hitting the crosshairs of a large “X” mounted on the ship’s bridge. The only word that does it justice, awesome, has become a cliché, hackneyed from hyperbolic excess.

The US Navy has never faced anything in combat as formidable as the Sunburn missile. But this will surely change if the US and Israel decide to wage a so-called preventive war against Iran to destroy its nuclear infrastructure. Storm clouds have been darkening over the Gulf for many months. In recent years Israel upgraded its air force with a new fleet of long-range F-15 fighter-bombers, and even more recently took delivery of 5,000 bunker-buster bombs from the US –– weapons that many observers think are intended for use against Iran.

The arming for war has been matched by threats. Israeli officials have declared repeatedly that they will not allow the Mullahs to develop nuclear power, not even reactors to generate electricity for peaceful use. Their threats are particularly worrisome, because Israel has a long history of pre-emptive war. (See my 1989 book Dimona: the Third Temple? and also my 2003 article Will Iran Be Next? posted at < www.InformationClearingHouse.info/article3288.htm >)

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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2008, 07:59:14 PM »

Video of sunburn  missle test and impact on ship.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=31412011af
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