Coming War With Iran - All Iran News Here

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080629/pl_nm/bush_iran_report_dc

U.S. escalating covert operations against Iran - report

 NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. congressional leaders agreed late last year to President George W. Bush's funding request for a major escalation of covert operations against Iran aimed at destabilizing its leadership, according to a report in The New Yorker magazine published online on Sunday.

The article by reporter Seymour Hersh, from the magazine's July 7 and 14 issue, centers around a highly classified Presidential Finding signed by Bush which by U.S. law must be made known to Democratic and Republican House and Senate leaders and ranking members of the intelligence committees.

"The Finding was focused on undermining Iran's nuclear ambitions and trying to undermine the government through regime change," the article cited a person familiar with its contents as saying, and involved "working with opposition groups and passing money."

Hersh has written previously about possible administration plans to go to war to stop Tehran from obtaining nuclear weapons, including an April 2006 article in the New Yorker that suggested regime change in Iran, whether by diplomatic or military means, was Bush's ultimate goal.

Funding for the covert escalation, for which Bush requested up to $400 million, was approved by congressional leaders, according to the article, citing current and former military, intelligence and congressional sources.

Clandestine operations against Iran are not new. U.S. Special Operations Forces have been conducting crossborder operations from southern Iraq since last year, the article said.

These have included seizing members of Al Quds, the commando arm of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, and taking them to Iraq for interrogation, and the pursuit of "high-value targets" in Bush's war on terrorism, who may be captured or killed, according to the article.

But the scale and the scope of the operations in Iran, which include the Central Intelligence Agency, have now been significantly expanded, the article said, citing current and former officials.

Many of these activities are not specified in the new finding, and some congressional leaders have had serious questions about their nature, it said.

Among groups inside Iran benefiting from U.S. support is the Jundallah, also known as the Iranian People's Resistance Movement, according to former CIA officer Robert Baer. Council on Foreign Relations analyst Vali Nasr described it to Hersh as a vicious organization suspected of links to al Qaeda.

The article said U.S. support for the dissident groups could prompt a violent crackdown by Iran, which could give the Bush administration a reason to intervene.

None of the Democratic leaders in Congress would comment on the finding, the article said. The White House, which has repeatedly denied preparing for military action against Iran, and the CIA also declined comment.

The United States is leading international efforts to rein in Iran's suspected effort to develop nuclear weapons, although Washington concedes Iran has the right to develop nuclear power for civilian uses.

[chirhonius]

Fearing Israeli attack, Iran Targets Shahab-3 Missiles at Israel for counterattack

The Times of London reports that the missiles were moved on to launch pads and are reportedly focused on several targets in the Jewish State, among them the nuclear reactor in the Negev city of Dimona.
Defense sources quoted by the newspaper said the missiles were readied for a counterstrike should Israel attack Iran.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/newsfull.php?newid=135181

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/126660

[David Rothscum]

 US gives 'major' boost to covert ops in Iran: report
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/080629/usa/us_iran_nuclear_politics_intelligence_3&printer=1
Sun Jun 29, 2:46 AM

WASHINGTON (AFP) - The United States gave a major boost to covert operations against Iran with Congress's approval last year of President George W. Bush's request for 400 million dollars, a US magazine reported Sunday.

The move reveals a "major escalation" in clandestine operations aimed at destabilizing the Islamic republic's religious leadership amid concerns over Tehran's nuclear ambitions, said the report in the New Yorker magazine citing former military, intelligence, and congressional sources.

Among the methods being used are increased US support for minority and dissident groups and intelligence gathering about Iran's nuclear facilities, said the article, written and reported by Seymour Hersh.

Although such covert activities in Iran are not new on the part of the United States, the magazine said the "scale and the scope of the operations in Iran, which involve the Central Intelligence Agency and the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC), have now been significantly expanded."

The Congress approved Bush's request for funding late last year, according to sources with knowledge of the top secret Presidential Finding, which by law must be issued when covert intelligence operations get underway.

The Presidential Finding is conveyed to a select group of Congressional leaders and their intelligence committees, otherwise known as the Gang of Eight, the report said.

"The Finding was focused on undermining Iran's nuclear ambitions and trying to undermine the government through regime change," and involved "working with opposition groups and passing money," the report said, quoting an unnamed "person familiar with its contents."

The report said some lawmakers were skeptical of the administration's aims, and there was "a significant amount of high-level discussion" about the Finding before the funding was eventually approved.

The Bush administration's request for funding came around the same time as the December 2007 release of the National Intelligence Estimate, which said the Iran halted nuclear weapons work in 2003.

The NIE was downplayed by Bush and other officials who called for urgent action to counter the Iranian nuclear threat.

Washington suspects Iran is secretly working to build an atomic weapons arsenal. Iran insists its nuclear activities are for civilian energy purposes.

[chris jones]

Congress, what congress, what constitution?

The line has been drawn, one one side we see our elected officials who took a a sacred oath to uphold the constitution, literally controlling us, and to include the Elites sucking our blood and money.
On the other side of the line is the American people dictated to by this very organized criminal Elitist regime.

The division has been clearly made, the government controls us, they have eliminated their citizenry's voice. We are in a fascist state.

[David Rothscum]

They're now not just funding Jundullah, the Baluchi wing of al Qaeda, they're also inciting the Kurds against Iran:
http://www.nysun.com/foreign/kurds-launch-secret-war-in-iran/62270/
Kurdish guerrillas have launched a clandestine war in northwestern Iran, ambushing troops as they seek Western backing to secure an ethnic homeland.

In retaliation, the Iranian army has carried out a series of counterattacks in the mountains, which span the border with Iraq.

Murat Karayilan, a Kurdish guerrilla commander, told the Daily Telegraph that Tehran had originally tried to recruit the outlawed groups to fight coalition troops in Iraq.

"The U.S. and Britain came to Iraq to establish a democratic system, but this scared the Iranians, so they negotiated with us and offered many things to attack the coalition," he said under a canopy of trees near his headquarters on Iraqi territory in the Qandil Mountains.

Iranian newspapers have reported the deaths of seven soldiers in recent clashes with Kurdish guerrillas. Last month, the rebels claimed responsibility for shooting down an Iranian helicopter.

A loose alliance of guerrillas, styling itself the Kurdistan Democratic Federation, is fighting for an independent state which would cover the Kurdish-majority areas of Turkey, Iran, Iraq, and Syria.

Mr. Karayilan, who is from the PKK guerrilla group, said Iran and Turkey were acting in tandem to repress their Kurdish regions. But, he added, the Kurds have been inspired by the autonomous Kurdish region in northern Iraq, which has been relatively secure since Saddam Hussein's downfall in 2003. "The regional government in Iraqi Kurdistan has increased the national feeling of Kurds everywhere," he said.(That shouldn't come as a surprise, it's the exact goal, destabilize all the neighbouring countries, and split up Iraq.)

Iran believes that the U.S. and Britain are now arming and training the Kurdish guerrillas to strike its territory from bases inside Iraq. Ali Larijani, secretary of Iran's Supreme National Security Council, accused America of supporting terrorism inside the Islamic Republic.

"America wants to carry out actions such as blowing up the country's oil pipelines by supporting bandits and small groups of Kurdish rebels," he told the Iranian press.
Don't believe Iran? Read this:
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=61486&sectionid=351020101
US, anti-Iran groups hold secret meeting
Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:51:33
Palace Hotel, Sulaimaniyah, northeast of Baghdad
US officials and heads of four Kurdish anti-Iran groups have held a secret meeting in the Iraqi city of Sulaimaniyah, a Kurdish website says.

The two-day meeting was aimed at coordination of the US and the anti-Iran groups on mounting more pressure on the Islamic Republic.

Ten American military officers and leaders of four Kurdish terrorist groups attended the meeting in the Palace Hotel in Sulaimaniyah, northern Iraq, the website said.

During the meeting, the Kurdish leaders called on the US officials to pursue the same policies, which led to fall of the Iraqi Baath regime, in a bid to overthrow the Iranian government.

The latest developments within the anti-revolutionary groups indicate that winning the US cooperation and support is the groups' objective.

Kurdistan Democratic Party's former Secretary Mostafa Hejri, had reportedly underlined cooperation with the US against Iran as a "necessity", in a meeting he held with students of Arbil University last year.

General Secretary of Komala terrorist group, Abdulah Mohtadi had also officially affirmed the need of monetary and arms support from the US.

Mostafa Hejri, Abdulah Mohtadi, secretary-general of a faction of the Democratic Party of Iranian Kurdistan, Abdullah Hassanzadeh, and the general secretary of the Revolutionary Union of Kurdistan, Hussein Yazdanpanah were the four Kurdish leaders attending the meeting.

AO/FH/MMN
Let's look at Jundullah again, the Baluchi seperatist group that is being aided by the criminals that want to destroy the entire Middle East. First of all it's being funded by the criminals that rule Britain and the US:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1543798/US-funds-terror-groups-to-sow-chaos-in-Iran.html
http://www.indianexpress.com/story/27474.html
Read the articles, it's well proven that the US funds Jundullah, a group that operates out of Afghanistan and Pakistan and kills Iranians. The really interesting part though is that the groups members are trained in Waziristan:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/south_asia/fg20df05.html

Jundullah is a purely militant outfit whose objective is to target Pakistan's pro-US rulers and US and British interests in the country. Members receive training in Afghanistan and South Waziristan, and it is now actively recruiting.

This explains why Pakistan does nothing against the Tribal leaders and radical groups like the Taliban that rule major parts of Pakistan, including Waziristan. The US receives it's terrorists they use to attack Iran from the region, if the US said to Musharraf that he should take over the region they'd foul their own nest! Yes, Musharraf knows about how the US is using these terrorists to attack Iran, he was informed about it:

ABC cited Pakistani government sources as saying the secret campaign against Iran was on the agenda when Vice President Dick Cheney met with Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf in February.

This should explain a lot, at least it does to me. But what's the bigger picture?
Well, first of all they're causing a civil war in Iran. They don't care that most people being killed are civilians, that's what they want, they're doing it in Afghanistan and Iraq as well. Second, they're working towards this map:

That's the long term goal.

[David Rothscum]

Brzezinski did the same thing to the Soviet Union, he was obsessed with breaking the Soviet Union up. He even wrote his Senior Thesis about breaking up the Soviet Union, and succeeded in doing it by using Afghanistan to destroy the Soviet Union. (http://english.people.com.cn/200603/20/eng20060320_251953.html) It didn't matter to him ofcourse that infant mortality rose to 30% in Afghanistan and that millions of civilians were killed, they love that. Expect to see a lot more like this if Brzezinski gets his puppet Obama into office.

[Optimus]

Iran threatens to shut down Persian Gulf oil lanes if attacked
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-fg-iran29-2008jun29,0,377280.story

A military official is quoted as saying Tehran would respond to a confrontation over its nuclear program.

By Borzou Daragahi, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
June 29, 2008

BEIRUT -- The commander of Iran's elite Revolutionary Guard said the government might shut down vital oil lanes through the Persian Gulf if the country were attacked by the United States or Israel, according to a newspaper report Saturday.

Maj. Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari warned that if there were any confrontation over Iran's nuclear program, Tehran would try to damage Western economies by targeting oil.

"Naturally every country under attack by an enemy uses all its capacity and opportunities to confront the enemy," Jafari said to the hard-line newspaper Jaam-e Jam, according to translations of his comments on the English-language website of the semiofficial Fars News Agency.

"Iran will definitely act to impose control on the Persian Gulf and Strait of Hormuz," through which 17 million barrels of oil passes each day.

"After this action, the oil price will rise very considerably and this is among the factors deterring the enemies," he said.

Iran abuts the strategic strait, and Iranian and Western analysts have frequently said that the country could try to blockade or mine it in the event of a war, a move that would send oil prices skyrocketing.

But some military analysts say Iran might not be able to hold the waterway, which is 21 miles wide at its narrowest point, in a confrontation with U.S. warships and aircraft.

The West and Iran remain locked in a standoff over uranium enrichment, which Tehran insists is meant to produce fuel for energy production, but which the U.S. and its allies allege is the cornerstone of an eventual weapons program.

The West has threatened a fourth round of United Nations sanctions as well as a tightening of other economic restrictions if the program is not suspended.

U.S. lawmakers are considering resolutions that would require President Bush to increase pressure on Tehran by preventing the export of refined petroleum products and inspecting "all persons, vehicles, ships, planes, trains, and cargo entering or departing Iran."

U.S. officials this month also leaked word of a large Israeli military exercise that they described as a prelude to a possible attack on Iran.

Tehran has reacted angrily to the pressure, which comes as it considers a package of U.S. and European-backed incentives meant to entice the government to halt enrichment activities. An escalating war of words has rattled nerves and contributed to rising oil prices.

Jafari also warned of possible reprisals against countries that allow the U.S. or Israel to use their territory or airspace to launch attacks against Iran.

"If enemies from outside the region use the soil of regional countries against the Islamic Republic of Iran . . . the governments of those countries will be responsible, and it is our obvious right to act in the same way against their military capabilities and abilities of enemies everywhere," Jafari said.

[changedname]

Hmmm, Who are the terroist again? I seem to forget? Is it Osama or is the name lost somewhere in the Bush's?

[DCUBED]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article4232021.ece

Iran ready to strike at Israel’s nuclear heart

Iran has moved ballistic missiles into launch positions, with Israel’s Dimona nuclear plant among the possible targets, defence sources said last week.

The movement of Shahab-3B missiles, which have an estimated range of more than 1,250 miles, followed a large-scale exercise earlier this month in which the Israeli air force flew en masse over the Mediterranean in an apparent rehearsal for a threatened attack on Iran’s nuclear installations. Israel believes Iran’s nuclear programme is aimed at acquiring nuclear weapons.

The sources said Iran was preparing to retaliate for any onslaught by firing missiles at Dimona, where Israel’s own nuclear weapons are believed to be made.

Major-General Mohammad Jafari, the commander of the Revolutionary Guard, told a Tehran daily: “This country [Israel] is completely within the range of the Islamic Republic’s missiles. Our missile power and capability are such that the Zionist regime – despite all its abilities – cannot confront it.”

An editorial in a government newspaper, Jomhouri Eslami, said: “Our response will hit right at their temple.”

The sabre-rattling coincided with a visit to Israel yesterday by the chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Michael Mullen, for talks with his Israeli opposite number, Lieutenant-General Gabi Ashkenazi. This intensified speculation that Israel was seeking US approval for a possible attack on Iran.

“Although the visit had been planned well in advance, we got the feeling he was coming to make sure we’ll obey the strict timetable agreed with the US,” said an Israeli defence source. He refused to elaborate.

President George Bush has approved the linking of Israel to a US infrared satellite detection system that could spot Shahab missile launches within seconds.

This should enable the Israeli air force to destroy such missiles in the booster stage. The system will also give the Israelis about 15 minutes to seek shelter before any warhead hits.

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http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080629185519.5hi45ii3&show_article=1

Iran Readies Graves For Enemy Soldiers

Iran is to dig 320,000 graves in border districts to allow for the burial of enemy soldiers in the event of any attack on its territory, a top commander said on Sunday.

"In implementation of the Geneva Conventions... the necessary measures are being taken to provide for the burial of enemy soldiers," the Mehr news agency quoted General Mir-Faisal Bagherzadeh as saying.

"We have plans to dig 15,000 to 20,000 graves in each of the border provinces or a total of 320,000," the general said, some of them mass graves if necessary.

Bagherzadeh said Iran was keen to "reduce the suffering of the families of the fallen in any attack against our country... and prevent any repetition of the long and bitter experience of the Vietnam War."

His comments came as the United States continued to refuse to rule out an eventual resort to force against Iran over its contested nuclear programme, which the West fears is cover for a drive to build an atomic weapon.

They also came as Israeli officials spoke of their determination to prevent Iran developing a nuclear capability at all costs.

A former head of Israel's Mossad foreign intelligence agency said in comments published on Sunday that the Jewish state had one year to destroy Iran's nuclear programme or face the risk of coming under nuclear attack.

Shabtai Shavit told a London weekly that the "worst-case scenario" was that Tehran would have a nuclear weapon within "somewhere around a year".

"The time that is left to be ready is getting shorter all the time," he told the Sunday Telegraph.

Israel is the only, if undeclared, nuclear armed power in the Middle East.

[scary]

Here it is

updated 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
   Report: U.S. 'preparing the battlefield' in IranStory Highlights
New Yorker article says Congress authorized up to $400 million for covert ops in Iran

Journalist Seymour Hersh says program is being staged from Afghanistan

U.S. officials decline comment, deny the U.S. is launching raids from Iraq

Iranian general says troops are building graves for invaders in the event of war

was official cnn.com front page headline at updated 4:49 p.m. EDT, Sun June 29, 2008

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/06/29/us.iran/index.html




     
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Bush administration has launched a "significant escalation" of covert operations in Iran, sending U.S. commandos to spy on the country's nuclear facilities and undermine the Islamic republic's government, journalist Seymour Hersh said Sunday.


An Iranian flag flies outside the building containing the reactor of Bushehr nuclear power plant, south of Tehran.

 White House, CIA and State Department officials declined comment on Hersh's report, which appears in this week's issue of The New Yorker.

Hersh told CNN's "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer" that Congress has authorized up to $400 million to fund the secret campaign, which involves U.S. special operations troops and Iranian dissidents.

President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney have rejected findings from U.S. intelligence agencies that Iran has halted a clandestine effort to build a nuclear bomb and "do not want to leave Iran in place with a nuclear program," Hersh said.

"They believe that their mission is to make sure that before they get out of office next year, either Iran is attacked or it stops its weapons program," Hersh said.

The new article, "Preparing the Battlefield," is the latest in a series of articles accusing the Bush administration of preparing for war with Iran. He based the report on accounts from current and former military, intelligence, and congressional sources.

"As usual with his quarterly pieces, we'll decline to comment," White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe told CNN.

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"The CIA, as a rule, does not comment on allegations regarding covert operations," CIA spokesman Paul Gimigliano said.

Ryan Crocker, the U.S. ambassador in Baghdad, denied U.S. raids were being launched from Iraq, where American commanders believe Iran is stoking sectarian warfare and fomenting attacks on U.S. troops.

"I can tell you flatly that U.S. forces are not operating across the Iraqi border into Iran, in the south or anywhere else," Crocker said.

Hersh said U.S. efforts were staged from Afghanistan, which also shares a border with Iran.

He said the program resulted in "a dramatic increase in kinetic events and chaos" inside Iran, including attacks by Kurdish separatists in the country's north and a May attack on a mosque in Shiraz that killed 13 people.

The United States has said it is trying to isolate Iran diplomatically in order to get it to come clean about its nuclear ambitions. But Bush has said "all options" are open in dealing with the issue.

Iran insists its nuclear program is aimed at providing civilian electric power, and refuses to comply with U.N. Security Council demands that it halt uranium enrichment work.

U.N. nuclear inspectors say Tehran held back critical information that could determine whether it is trying to make nuclear weapons.

Israel, which is believed to have its own nuclear arsenal, conducted a military exercise in the eastern Mediterranean in early June involving dozens of warplanes and aerial tankers.

The distance involved in the exercise was roughly the same as would be involved in a possible strike on the Iranian nuclear fuel plant at Natanz, Iran, a U.S. military official said.

In 1981, Israeli warplanes destroyed an Iraqi nuclear reactor.

Iran's parliament speaker, Ali Larijani, warned other countries against moves that would "cost them heavily." In comments that appeared in the semi-official Mehr news agency Sunday, an Iranian general said his troops were digging more than 320,000 graves to bury troops from any invading force with "the respect they deserve."

"Under the law of war and armed conflict, necessary preparations must be made for the burial of soldiers of aggressor nations," said Maj. Gen. Mirfaisal Baqerzadeh, an Iranian officer in charge of identifying soldiers missing in action.
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Journalist Shirzad Bozorghmehr in Tehran, Iran, contributed to this report.

[xTruthSeekerx]

waits for the door to get busted in

[releasethebonds]

I SAW THIS...yes folks...it's over...BUSH NEEDS THIS TO IMPOSE MARTIAL LAW ON OUR ASSES AND MOST IMPORTANTLY TO REMAIN IN POWER ... WHILE THE PUSS8ES IN CONGRESS DON'T DO SH\T. I LUVE AMERICA!

[scary]

That's seriously some shit ain't it. I mean if MAIN stream news is saying this, you know it's 10 times more serious, dear lord, protect us all.

[lilywhite]

Here is the beginning of the end. We can't afford another war! The draft will end up coming too. The world sure seems totally oblivious to this. I just wanted a nice, simple life, and now things will be changing for the worse soon and it's bad enough already!

[scary]

Here is the beginning of the end. We can't afford another war! The draft will end up coming too. The world sure seems totally oblivious to this. I just wanted a nice, simple life, and now things will be changing for the worse soon and it's bad enough already!

I understand that and amen to it, be strong we have the truth, and we will make it through this. They have not attacked them yet, but we will see, if CNN says this... it looks quite probable. Just be strong, make the preperations to live okay, do it right now. Get some food, Lily!, stock up on such things. Even if they attack in one month, if you prepare now as much as you can you'll be fine for a lot longer okay? I'd try to buy the e foods and such if you can, but if not, just hit the grocery store and get flour and the bare essentials. You will be fine, we will be fine, god is not on their side, he is on ours and that is the end of the bill!

[scary]

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Here it is CNN HEADLINE "PREPARING BATTLEFIELD IN IRAN".

updated 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
   Report: U.S. 'preparing the battlefield' in IranStory Highlights
New Yorker article says Congress authorized up to $400 million for covert ops in Iran

Journalist Seymour Hersh says program is being staged from Afghanistan

U.S. officials decline comment, deny the U.S. is launching raids from Iraq

Iranian general says troops are building graves for invaders in the event of war

was official cnn.com front page headline at updated 4:49 p.m. EDT, Sun June 29, 2008

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/06/29/us.iran/index.html




     
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Bush administration has launched a "significant escalation" of covert operations in Iran, sending U.S. commandos to spy on the country's nuclear facilities and undermine the Islamic republic's government, journalist Seymour Hersh said Sunday.


An Iranian flag flies outside the building containing the reactor of Bushehr nuclear power plant, south of Tehran.

 White House, CIA and State Department officials declined comment on Hersh's report, which appears in this week's issue of The New Yorker.

Hersh told CNN's "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer" that Congress has authorized up to $400 million to fund the secret campaign, which involves U.S. special operations troops and Iranian dissidents.

President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney have rejected findings from U.S. intelligence agencies that Iran has halted a clandestine effort to build a nuclear bomb and "do not want to leave Iran in place with a nuclear program," Hersh said.

"They believe that their mission is to make sure that before they get out of office next year, either Iran is attacked or it stops its weapons program," Hersh said.

The new article, "Preparing the Battlefield," is the latest in a series of articles accusing the Bush administration of preparing for war with Iran. He based the report on accounts from current and former military, intelligence, and congressional sources.

"As usual with his quarterly pieces, we'll decline to comment," White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe told CNN.

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Official: Israeli air exercise a message to Iran
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"The CIA, as a rule, does not comment on allegations regarding covert operations," CIA spokesman Paul Gimigliano said.

Ryan Crocker, the U.S. ambassador in Baghdad, denied U.S. raids were being launched from Iraq, where American commanders believe Iran is stoking sectarian warfare and fomenting attacks on U.S. troops.

"I can tell you flatly that U.S. forces are not operating across the Iraqi border into Iran, in the south or anywhere else," Crocker said.

Hersh said U.S. efforts were staged from Afghanistan, which also shares a border with Iran.

He said the program resulted in "a dramatic increase in kinetic events and chaos" inside Iran, including attacks by Kurdish separatists in the country's north and a May attack on a mosque in Shiraz that killed 13 people.

The United States has said it is trying to isolate Iran diplomatically in order to get it to come clean about its nuclear ambitions. But Bush has said "all options" are open in dealing with the issue.

Iran insists its nuclear program is aimed at providing civilian electric power, and refuses to comply with U.N. Security Council demands that it halt uranium enrichment work.

U.N. nuclear inspectors say Tehran held back critical information that could determine whether it is trying to make nuclear weapons.

Israel, which is believed to have its own nuclear arsenal, conducted a military exercise in the eastern Mediterranean in early June involving dozens of warplanes and aerial tankers.

The distance involved in the exercise was roughly the same as would be involved in a possible strike on the Iranian nuclear fuel plant at Natanz, Iran, a U.S. military official said.

In 1981, Israeli warplanes destroyed an Iraqi nuclear reactor.

Iran's parliament speaker, Ali Larijani, warned other countries against moves that would "cost them heavily." In comments that appeared in the semi-official Mehr news agency Sunday, an Iranian general said his troops were digging more than 320,000 graves to bury troops from any invading force with "the respect they deserve."

"Under the law of war and armed conflict, necessary preparations must be made for the burial of soldiers of aggressor nations," said Maj. Gen. Mirfaisal Baqerzadeh, an Iranian officer in charge of identifying soldiers missing in action.
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Journalist Shirzad Bozorghmehr in Tehran, Iran, contributed to this report.

[David Rothscum]

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080629185519.5hi45ii3&show_article=1

Iran Readies Graves For Enemy Soldiers

Iran is to dig 320,000 graves in border districts to allow for the burial of enemy soldiers in the event of any attack on its territory, a top commander said on Sunday.

"In implementation of the Geneva Conventions... the necessary measures are being taken to provide for the burial of enemy soldiers," the Mehr news agency quoted General Mir-Faisal Bagherzadeh as saying.

"We have plans to dig 15,000 to 20,000 graves in each of the border provinces or a total of 320,000," the general said, some of them mass graves if necessary.

Bagherzadeh said Iran was keen to "reduce the suffering of the families of the fallen in any attack against our country... and prevent any repetition of the long and bitter experience of the Vietnam War."

His comments came as the United States continued to refuse to rule out an eventual resort to force against Iran over its contested nuclear programme, which the West fears is cover for a drive to build an atomic weapon.

They also came as Israeli officials spoke of their determination to prevent Iran developing a nuclear capability at all costs.

A former head of Israel's Mossad foreign intelligence agency said in comments published on Sunday that the Jewish state had one year to destroy Iran's nuclear programme or face the risk of coming under nuclear attack.

Shabtai Shavit told a London weekly that the "worst-case scenario" was that Tehran would have a nuclear weapon within "somewhere around a year".

"The time that is left to be ready is getting shorter all the time," he told the Sunday Telegraph.

Israel is the only, if undeclared, nuclear armed power in the Middle East.

I still can't get over the fact that we now live in the evil empire and are attacking people who  will not play dirty even though we do. Look at this, while we are sending terrorists into their country to blow up civilians they just sit and do nothing, except for preparing for the horrors that will unfold when the US invades.

[xTruthSeekerx]

bad enough f**king mexico is attacking
panises wake up and tear down their damn flags and raise the gadsden flag sky high!

[goetface]

and so it is..... damn

[lazarus]

To all. I am not giving up hope yet. But if this happens, please know that it will be up to us to pass on the true history of what has transpired in the last few years. Along with all your contingency plans include the truth in your hearts and minds.

They would have to kill us all to erase our memory. They can't do that. Even if they do they have no idea who we have talked to. YOU HEAR THAT TROLLS AND NEOCON LURKERS? YOU CAN KILL ME BUT YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO I HAVE TALKED TO.

[goetface]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/06/29/us.iran/index.html

omfg.

[scary]

Hope you Guys are ready ..This is it ..If we hit IRAN ..
We have already been warned what will happen
by China and Russia

and it involves MUSHROOM CLOUDS!

We HAVE TO STOP TYPING AND START FIGHTING THESE BASTARDS

GOD i am sooooo

Sooooooooo

Soooooooo

Hell I can put a finger on how I feel .......

Ditto, It's like this is really some bullshit, reallly, really really bullshit. But you know what, If the Tard public supports this, and we do it, and we don't get half blown off the map by russia/china, and its just a war with us and the iranians and israel and the rest of the world just condemns the attacks, PEOPLE WILL FINALLY SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES, all of our bush supporting dumbshit's out there will be paying 10,12,15 dollars a gallon for gas, finally it will touch home. So, maybe the only positive thing that will happen is that the dumb ass american public might finally realize that actions have consequences. If your in a big city, get out!

[lilywhite]

I understand that and amen to it, be strong we have the truth, and we will make it through this. They have not attacked them yet, but we will see, if CNN says this... it looks quite probable. Just be strong, make the preperations to live okay, do it right now. Get some food, Lily!, stock up on such things. Even if they attack in one month, if you prepare now as much as you can you'll be fine for a lot longer okay? I'd try to buy the e foods and such if you can, but if not, just hit the grocery store and get flour and the bare essentials. You will be fine, we will be fine, god is not on their side, he is on ours and that is the end of the bill!

Weird, I just replied to this post and it disappeared! Well I was saying thank you for trying to make me feel better. I am trying to store food, but what I really want to do is get out of the city. I will have to move so much! I am afraid we will be trapped in the cities and they won't let us out. Martial Law is scary because we don't know what will exactly happen.

Iran has to be planning a defense.

[scary]

Some SHIT 

Up this Thread

[Rock]

Friends it is time (if you haven't already) to store up food.  Get your money out of the bank.  Have a plan.

When this war starts it is the end of what we all have known as freedom.



Rock

[TheGoodFight1984]

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=61960&sectionid=351020101

Iran 'digging 320,000 graves for invaders'
Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:57:34

A senior Iranian commander says the country is digging some '320,000 graves' in its bordering provinces for future slain invaders.

Brigadier General Mir-Faisal Baqerzadeh, the Head of the Foundation for the Remembrance of the Holy Defense, said Sunday that the decision had been approved by Iran's Armed Forces Headquarters.

"We will dig 15,000 to 20,000 graves in each of the border provinces," he said.

"We do not wish the families of enemy soldiers to experience what Americans had to go through in the aftermath of the Vietnam War," added Brig. Gen. Baqerzadeh, who is also the head of the search committee for missing soldiers.

The commander said the preemptive measures would decrease the time slain soldiers would be 'missing in action'.

"The burial of slain soldiers will be carried out decently and in little time," he continued.

Baqerzadeh added that the decision is in line with the Islamic Republic's commitment to comply with the Geneva Convention and the additional protocol regarding wartime cooperation between Iran and the Red Cross.

MD/AA

[David Rothscum]

Hope you Guys are ready ..This is it ..If we hit IRAN ..
We have already been warned what will happen
by China and Russia

and it involves MUSHROOM CLOUDS!

We HAVE TO STOP TYPING AND START FIGHTING THESE BASTARDS

GOD i am sooooo

Sooooooooo

Soooooooo

Hell I can put a finger on how I feel .......

How do you want to fight this? We had the biggest anti-war protests around the world ever to prevent the war in Iraq. We even had heroes move to Iraq, trying to prevent the war by being human shields. The facts are that this won't stop until these people are either dead or in jail.

[TheGoodFight1984]

haha check this out....

Brown: Iran must prove its intentions

Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:01:14

British Prime Minister Gordon Brown says the Islamic Republic must prove that it is not 'interested' in developing nuclear weapons.

In a CNN interview televised Sunday, Brown claimed that Iran is not 'totally honest with the international community'.

"We need a firm and absolute commitment that Iran is not going to break from the Non-Proliferation Treaty and have nuclear weapons. That is the first stage," said the British premier.

The US and Israel accuse Tehran of having plans to develop weapons of mass destruction under the guise of a civilian nuclear program.

Iran, however, insists that its nuclear program is directed at electricity generation and peaceful applications of nuclear technology, arguing that it is entitled to enrich uranium as a signatory to the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).

CS/AA

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=61954&sectionid=351020104

'Not totally honest with the international community'.. I can't believe how tweaked these people are

[Rock]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,373407,00.html

[scary]

Weird, I just replied to this post and it disappeared! Well I was saying thank you for trying to make me feel better. I am trying to store food, but what I really want to do is get out of the city. I will have to move so much! I am afraid we will be trapped in the cities and they won't let us out. Martial Law is scary because we don't know what will exactly happen.

Iran has to be planning a defense.

lily you need to get out of the city, seriously. Yea I noticed the thread was moved here, I dont know how big ur city is but I'd get out of there, or literally have a plan too, got friends in the country?

[plantop14]

Friends it is time (if you haven't already) to store up food.  Get your money out of the bank.  Have a plan.

When this war starts it is the end of what we all have known as freedom.



Rock

With you Rock but as far as a storage of food for my large family, well I am way behind schedule on that one! If these lunatics go after Iran, then we'll all have to pull up the bootstraps, real tight, because it looks as though it's gonna go south real fast!

[Rock]

With you Rock but as far as a storage of food for my large family, well I am way behind schedule on that one! If these lunatics go after Iran, then we'll all have to pull up the bootstraps, real tight, because it looks as though it's gonna go south real fast!

Yep,



Bush's covert game in Iran?

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/presidentbush/2008/06/are-us-covert-f.html

Is the United States conducting clandestine operations within Iran?

The New Yorker's Seymour Hersh thinks so, and reports in this week's issue that Congress agreed to a request from President Bush last year to fund a major escalation of covert activity against Iran -- aimed at destabilizing the country's regime by backing minority groups like the Ahwazi Arab and Baluchi.

The story was knocked down quickly by the administration -- "I can tell you flatly that U.S. forces are not operating across the Iraqi border into Iran." U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker told CNN.
Hersh dismissed the denial, arguing that "when you run secret operations ... sometimes it's better not to have the ambassador know."

Saying that he does not know why the administration would be increasing covert operations in Iran, Hersh told CNN in an interview today that he believes that President Bush and Vice President Cheney "do not want to leave Iran in place with a nuclear program.... They believe that their mission is to make sure that before they get out of offices next year, either Iran is attacked or it stops its weapons program."

The Times' Babylon and Beyond blog, which reports on the Middle East, has more details here.

-- Johanna Neuman

[Rock]

U.S. covert action inside Iran on the rise: report

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/us-covert-activity-inside-iran/story.aspx?guid=%7B81296097-215E-4A92-AB90-B935C8247C39%7D&dist=msr_1

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- The U.S. Congress approved a White House request last year for $400 million to expand covert operations inside Iran, according to a report published Sunday but later denied by a senior U.S. diplomat.
The article in the New Yorker magazine, written by Seymour Hersh, said little is known in Congress about what the U.S. forces are actually doing, and some representatives are growing concerned with the scope of the operations.
The report said U.S. personnel are gathering intelligence and working to destabilize the Iranian regime.
In an interview on CNN's 'Late Edition," Hersh said President Bush intends to continue to press Iran for the next seven months over its nuclear program.
Earlier on the same program, U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker refuted the allegation.
"I can tell you flatly that U.S. forces are not operating across the Iraqi border into Iran," the ambassador to Iraq said.
Tension between the West and Iran is one factor cited by analysts for the spike in energy prices in world markets.
Bush and other Western powers want Iran to renounce nuclear weapons and not to join the nuclear arms race.
In another interview on CNN, U.K. Prime Minister Gordon Brown said Iran "has got to prove to us that they are not interested in having nuclear weapons."
Also Sunday, Agence-France Presse reported that Iran has announced it plans to dig 320,000 graves in border districts to allow for the burial of enemy soldiers in the event of any attack on its territory. End of Story

[Rock]

US Preparing Battlefield With Iran

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?c=Article_C&cid=1213871398381&pagename=Zone-English-News/NWELayout




CAIRO — Preparing the 'battlefield' with Iran, the Bush administration gave a major 'boost' to clandestine operations against Tehran to destabilize the Iranian regime, award-winning American investigative reporter Seymour Hersh reveals.

"Late last year, Congress agreed to a request from President Bush to fund a major escalation of covert operations against Iran," Hersh wrote in The New Yorker magazine's July 7 issue.

"These operations, for which the President sought up to four hundred million dollars, were described in a Presidential Finding signed by Bush, and are designed to destabilize the country’s religious leadership."

Citing current and former intelligence and congressional sources, Hersh said the Finding was conveyed late last year to a select group of Congressional leaders and their intelligence committees, known as the Gang of Eight.

"The Finding was focused on undermining Iran's nuclear ambitions and trying to undermine the government through regime change," said an unnamed official familiar with the finding's content.

It also involved "working with opposition groups and passing money," he added.

The covert activities include gathering intelligence about Iran's nuclear program.

They also include supporting the minority Ahwazi Arab and Baluchi groups and other dissident organizations.

The covert activities funded by the Finding are to be carried out by the dissident groups inside or outside Iran and not by Americans in the field.

Tehran has accused the US of supplying Iranian separatist groups with arms and using them in a proxy war against the Islamic republic.

The Sunday Telegraph revealed last year that Bush has authorized the CIA to conduct "black" operations to topple the Iranian regime of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, including funds for separatists and alleged terrorist groups.

Escalation

Hersh says the clandestine operations, which are not new, are a further escalation in the standoff with Tehran.

"The United States Special Operations Forces have been conducting cross-border operations from southern Iraq, with Presidential authorization, since last year," the Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist said.

According to Hersh, it is the scale and scope of the new operations that make it extremely significant.

The US has never ruled out a "military action" against Iran over its nuclear program, which Tehran says it aims at generating energy for a growing population.

Hersh revealed last year that the Pentagon had formed a special group to plan an attack against Iran that can be implemented within 24 hours.

The new US strategy faced strong opposition from some senior officials and military leaders.

Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and Admiral William Fallon, who resigned last March from his post as the head of Central Command, were among the most outspoken opponents to the strategy.

Hersh says the escalation strategy also raised skepticism among some lawmakers and congressional leaders, and were subject to "a significant amount of high-level discussion."

Legislators were troubled by the operations' nature and that many of the clandestine activities were not specified in the secret Finding.

But the opposition failed to derail the plans.

"The oversight process has not kept pace—it’s been co-opted," by the administration, said the congressional official familiar with the Finding.

"The claim was that the military was ‘preparing the battle space,’ and by using that term they were able to circumvent congressional oversight.

"Everything is justified in terms of fighting the global war on terror."

[Anti_Illuminati]

Check out the Government OP(s) here defending the covert OPS in Iran.  I could use some help shutting these guys down if anyone cares to throw in their own facts to totally disprove this kind of incessant ridiculousness:

Meet nutsy54:


nutsy54
Navy-Marine Corps Team

Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Maryland, United States
Age: 38
Stats: 5'11", 197 lbs
Posts: 34,478
Occupation:     US Navy - Electronics Technician (Senior Chief) [Yeah right, try Psy-Ops/MindWar division Chief at Central Command/National Reconnasiance Office.]

In response to:

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/washi...in&oref=slogin

"Funding for the covert escalation, for which Bush requested up to $400 million, was approved by congressional leaders, according to the article, citing current and former military, intelligence and congressional sources."

Originally Posted by dangerbird:
"well thats an act of war if i ever saw one........"

And that's a very naive statement about the world around you, if you think everything is so Black & White (especially with Zero details of exactly what actions were approved & conducted). . .

Given the number of our Soldiers and Marines they've helped murder in Iraq, I'm pretty sure Iran has been "throwing punches" for a long time

There's no real way to know with stuff like this - it's "covert" for a reason.  None of us will know the details (on either side), especially related to how long and where else operations like this have been occurring.  Noting from the article, this is nothing new - the funding that's being highlighted was approved at least seven months ago.

And I will point out that, once again, these were actions and funding approved by Congress - which means the justifications were good enough to convince senior Senators & Representatives (including Democrats, obviously).

Iran is in fact threatening to close off the straight of Hormuz and encroach on the Gulf is they feel threatened, news articles are apparently saying...... this of course, will severly impact oil prices, "Oil as a weapon" I believe the papers called it.

I agree with Nutsy though, I hand't even considered the fact that Iran has been aiding and supplying those responsible for killing our boys...... it's inevitable there's basically only two options, we're either going to reconcile (unlikely), or come to blows..... as I said, now would'nt be the most ideal time, but the resources and people are in the region so you'd think that'd ramp up the pressure on Amanjajab-jojob? blowjob? whatever is his name is.

there should be overt ops against w/e factions in iran that are responsible for deaths of US troops.

but perhaps i'm a little biased as i've seen first hand the results of iranian actions in iraq.  :mad:

Originally Posted by nick187:
"Why not at the negotiation tables?"

How well has that worked out so far?

22 May 2006
"Iran's hardline government said Monday that its uranium enrichment programme was not up for negotiation, again rejecting European efforts to secure a halt to the sensitive nuclear work.

Government spokesman Gholam Hossein Elham also promised the Islamic regime would continue to work towards reaching an industrial-scale capacity in enrichment, a process which can be extended to make nuclear weapons."

24 May 2005
"BRUSSELS, Belgium -- Nuclear talks between Iran and the European Union are proving more difficult than ever and the chances of averting a breakdown are only 50-50, according to a senior Iranian negotiator."


2 Jun 2006
"``We urge Iran to take the positive path and to consider seriously our substantive proposals which would bring significant benefits," Beckett said with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and the foreign ministers of Russia, China, France, and Germany at her side."


23 Oct 2007
"We are in favour of talks but we will not negotiate with anyone about our right to nuclear technology," Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying by Iranian state television during his trip to Armenia, which ended on Tuesday."

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=108861821

[David Rothscum]

This picture begs to be photoshopped.
Anyway tell this person that we are funding Jundullah. Jundullah is the same group that had plans to attack the American consulate: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/784589.cms
He wants the US to fund groups that wanted to attack Americans to spread terror in Iran because Iran supposedly funded groups that have attacked Americans. What's the logic in that?

[scary]

This picture begs to be photoshopped.
Anyway tell this person that we are funding Jundullah. Jundullah is the same group that had plans to attack the American consulate: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/784589.cms
He wants the US to fund groups that wanted to attack Americans to spread terror in Iran because Iran supposedly funded groups that have attacked Americans. What's the logic in that?

yea we need that face on gay pride parades, liberace bodies, richard simmons bodies.....

[lilywhite]

Hope you Guys are ready ..This is it ..If we hit IRAN ..
We have already been warned what will happen
by China and Russia

and it involves MUSHROOM CLOUDS!

We HAVE TO STOP TYPING AND START FIGHTING THESE BASTARDS

GOD i am sooooo

Sooooooooo

Soooooooo

Hell I can put a finger on how I feel .......

I hear you. I don't have the words to express my fear at what can happen. I am really worried! Why do we allow these criminal people in office to get by with all of this stuff??? It feels like there is nothing we can do. People have died in wars since the beginning of time, and we have thought we were lucky and safe, but we are not. It could all end for us one day as we walk down the street. In a big mass takeout. I kind of like enjoying the earth and don't want to die young.

[chirhonius]

Hey does anyone think that either the US Israel or Iran would use Biological or Chemical Weapons?

Could Iran hit american with Bioweapons?