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« Reply #1160 on: July 14, 2010, 01:27:54 PM »

Castro: War on Iran 'Imminent'

By Tom Melle

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article25928.htm

July 13, 2010 "Morning Star" -- Cuban revolutionary Fidel Castro warned on Monday that a US-Israeli attack on Iran is "imminent" and predicted that this could trigger a global nuclear war.

In a special appearance on state-run television for the first time in nearly a year, the Communist leader described US and Israeli sabre-rattling over Iran's civil nuclear energy programme as "the most serious crisis" on the international scene because "the Iranian government will not retreat."

"The Iranians have been preparing themselves for 30 years, and have acquired all the Russian and Chinese aeroplanes and weapons necessary for their defence," Mr Castro said.

"They are training all people between the ages of 12 and 60 - just the Guardians of the Revolution have a million members," he added.

And Mr Castro insisted that the US sank the South Korean Cheonan warship in order to justify an attack on the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

He said that "in the face of a massive attack against Iran, North Korea will not wait to be attacked, and a nuclear war will also break out in that zone.

"When they decide to attack Iran, one war after the other will be unleashed," he declared.

The veteran Communist spoke out at a delicate time politically for Cuba, as it begins releasing 52 prisoners under a landmark deal brokered with Spanish officials and the Catholic church last week.

The men were all arrested in a crackdown on US-backed subversion in 2003.

The Origin of Wars

By Fidel Castro Ruz - granma.cu - July 11, 2010

I affirmed on July 4 that neither the United States nor Iran would give in; "one, due to the pride of the powerful, and the other, out of resistance to the yoke and the capacity to fight, as has occurred so many times in the history of humanity..."

In almost all wars, one of the parties wishes to avoid them, and sometimes, both. On this occasion, it would come about even though one of the parties does not wish it, as happened in the two World Wars in 1914 and 1939, with only 25 years of distance before the first outbreak and the second.

The slaughters were horrific, they would not have been unleashed without prior errors of calculation. The two parties were defending imperialist interests and they believed that they would obtain their objectives without the terrible cost that that implied.

In the case that concerns us: one of them is defending national, absolutely just interests. The other is pursuing illegitimate intentions and crude material interests.

If we analyze all the wars that have taken place, starting from the known history of our species, one of the parties has sought those objectives.

Any illusion that, on this occasion, such objectives will be reached without the most terrible of all wars is absolutely vain.

In one of the best articles published by the Global Research website on Thursday, July 1, signed by Rick Rozoff, he provides abundant indisputable arguments on the United States intentions, of which any well-informed person must be aware.

"... Victory can be attained when an adversary knows it is vulnerable to an instantaneous and undetectable, overwhelming and devastating attack without the ability to defend itself or retaliate," is what the United States thinks, according to the author.

"... A country which aspires to remain the only state in history to wield full spectrum military dominance on land, in the air, on the seas and in space."

"... To maintain and extend military bases and troops, aircraft carrier battle groups and strategic bombers on and to most every latitude and longitude. To do so with a post-World War II record war budget of $708 billion for next year."

It was "... the first country to develop and use nuclear weapons..."

"... the U.S. retains 1,550 deployed nuclear warheads and 2,200 (by some counts 3,500) more in storage and a triad of land, air and submarine delivery vehicles."

"The non-nuclear arsenal used for disabling and destroying the air defenses and strategic, potentially all major, military forces of other nations will consist of intercontinental ballistic missiles, adapted submarine-launched ballistic missiles, hypersonic cruise missiles and bombers, and super stealthy strategic bombers able to avoid detection by radar and thus evade ground- and air-based defenses."

Rozoff lists the many press conferences, meetings and statements of Joint Chiefs of Staff and high-ranking members of the government of the United States in the last few months.

He explains the commitments to NATO and the reinforced cooperation with Near East allies, primarily, read Israel. He says, "The U.S. is also intensifying space and cyber warfare programs with the potential to completely shut down other nations' military surveillance and command, control, communications, computer and intelligence systems, rendering them defenseless on any but the most basic tactical level."

He speaks of the signing in Prague, on April 8 of this year, of the new START Treaty between Russia and the United States, which "does not contain any constraints on current or planned U.S. conventional prompt global strike capability."

He refers to countless news items on the subject and illustrates the intentions of the United States with one overwhelming example.

He notes that "... 'The Department of Defense is currently exploring the full range of technologies and systems for a Conventional Prompt Global Strike (CPGS) capability that could provide the President more credible and technically suitable options for dealing with new and evolving threats."

I maintain the opinion that any president whosoever, not even the most expert military chief, would not have one minute to know what should be done if it was not already programmed on computers.

Imperturbably, Rozoff relates what the Global Security Network affirms in an analysis titled: "'Cost to test U.S. global-strike missile could reach $500 million,'" by Elaine Grossman.

"'The Obama administration has requested $239.9 million for prompt global strike research and development across the military services in fiscal 2011... If funding levels remain as anticipated into the coming years, the Pentagon will have spent some $2 billion on prompt global strike by the end of fiscal 2015, according to budget documents submitted last month to Capitol Hill.'"

"A terrifying scenario comparable to the effects of a PGS attack, in this case the sea-based version, appeared three years ago in Popular Mechanics:

"'In the Pacific, a nuclear-powered Ohio class submarine surfaces, ready for the president's command to launch. When the order comes, the sub shoots a 65-ton Trident II ballistic missile into the sky. Within 2 minutes, the missile is traveling at more than 20,000 ft. per second. Up and over the oceans and out of the atmosphere it soars for thousands of miles.

"'At the top of its parabola, hanging in space, the Trident's four warheads separate and begin their screaming descent down toward the planet.

"'Traveling as fast as 13,000 mph, the warheads are filled with scored tungsten rods with twice the strength of steel.

"'Just above the target, the warheads detonate, showering the area with thousands of rods-each one up to 12 times as destructive as a .50-caliber bullet. Anything within 3,000 sq. ft. of this whirling, metallic storm is obliterated.'"

Rozoff immediately explains the April 7 statement of General Leonid Ivashov, joint chief of staff of the Russian armed forces, made in a column entitled "Obama's nuclear surprise."

In that same column Ivashov, refers to the speech by the U.S. president in Prague last year: "The existence of thousands of nuclear weapons is the most dangerous legacy of the Cold War" and his signing of the START II agreement in that same city on April 8, Rozoff quotes the author, who stated:

"'No examples of sacrificial service of the U.S. elites to mankind or peoples of other countries can be discovered in the U.S. history over the past century. Would it be realistic to expect the advent of an African-American president to the White House to change the country's political philosophy traditionally aimed at achieving global dominance? Those believing that something like that is possible should try to realize why the U.S. the country with a military budget already greater than those of all other countries of the world combined continues spending enormous sums of money on preparations for war.'"

"... 'The Prompt Global Strike concept envisages a concentrated strike using several thousand precision conventional weapons in 2-4 hours that would completely destroy the critical infrastructures of the target country and thus force it to capitulate.'"

"'The Prompt Global Strike concept is meant to sustain the U.S. monopoly in the military sphere and to widen the gap between it and the rest of the world. Combined with the deployment of the missile defense supposed to keep the U.S. immune to retaliatory strikes from Russia and China, the Prompt Global Strike initiative is going to turn Washington into a modern era global dictator.'"

"'In essence, the new U.S. nuclear doctrine is an element of the novel U.S. security strategy that would be more adequately described as the strategy of total impunity. The U.S. is boosting its military budget, unleashing NATO as the global gendarme, and planning real-life exercise in Iran to test the efficiency of the Prompt Global Strike initiative in practice. At the same time, Washington is talking about the completely nuclear-free world.'"

In essence, Obama is trying to deceive the world by talking of a humanity free of nuclear weapons, which would be replaced by other extremely destructive ones, ideal for terrorizing state leaders and achieving the new strategy of total impunity.

The yankis believe that Iran's rendition is already close. The European Union is expected to announce a sanctions package of its own to be signed on July 26.

The last meeting of the 5+1 took place on July 2, after Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad affirmed that "his country would return to talks at the end of August with the participation of Brazil and Turkey."

A high-ranking E.U. official "stated that neither Brazil nor Turkey will be invited to take part in talks, at least not at this level."

"Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki stated that he was in favor of defying international sanctions and continuing with the enriched uranium program."

From Tuesday, July 5, in the face of the European reiteration that they are to promote additional measures against Iran, this country has responded that it will not negotiate until September.

Every day the possibilities of overcoming the insurmountable obstacle are reducing further.

What is going to happen is so evident that it can be foreseen in an almost exact form.

For my part, I must make a self-criticism; I committed an error in affirming in the June 27 Reflection that the conflict would break out on the Thursday, Friday or at the latest Saturday. It was already known that Israeli warships were navigating toward that objective together with the yanki naval forces. The order to search Iranian merchant ships was already given.

However, I did not realize that there was a prior step: confirmation of the negation of permission for the inspection of its mercantile fleet on the part of Iran. In analyzing the torturous language of the Security Council imposing sanctions on that country, I did not notice that detail to give the inspection order full effect. It was the only thing missing.

The 60-day period given by the Security Council on June 9 to receive information on compliance with the Resolution expires on August 8.

But something really most lamentable happened. I was working on the latest material on the delicate issue drafted by the Cuban Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the said document did not contain two key paragraphs the last two of the abovementioned resolution which textually state:

"Requests within 90 days a report from the Director General of the IAEA on whether Iran has established full and sustained suspension of all activities mentioned in resolution 1737 (2006), as well as on the process of Iranian compliance with all the steps required by the IAEA Board of Governors and with other provisions of resolutions 1737 (2006), 1747 (2007), 1803 (2008) and of this resolution, to the IAEA Board of Governors and in parallel to the Security Council for its consideration;

"Affirms that it shall review Irans actions in light of the report referred to in paragraph 36 above, to be submitted within 90 days, and:

(a) that it shall suspend the implementation of measures if and for so long as Iran suspends all enrichment-related and reprocessing activities, including research and development, as verified by the IAEA, to allow for negotiations in good faith in order to reach an early and mutually acceptable outcome;

(b) that it shall terminate the measures specified in paragraphs 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 12 of resolution 1737 (2006), as well as in paragraphs 2, 4, 5, 6 and 7 of resolution 1747 (2007), paragraphs 3, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10 and 11 of resolution 1803 (2008), and in paragraphs 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 21, 22, 23 and 24 above, as soon as it determines, following receipt of the report referred to in the paragraph above, that Iran has fully complied with its obligations under the relevant resolutions of the Security Council and met the requirements of the IAEA Board of Governors, as confirmed by the IAEA Board of Governors;

(c) that it shall, in the event that the report shows that Iran has not complied with resolutions 1737 (2006), 1747 (2007), 1803 (2008) and this resolution, adopt further appropriate measures under Article 41 of Chapter VII of the Charter of the United Nations to persuade Iran to comply with these resolutions and the requirements of the IAEA, and underlines that further decisions will be required should such additional measures be necessary..."

A compañero from the Ministry, after the exhausting work of many hours at the machine making photocopies of all the documents, fell asleep. My eagerness in seeking out information and exchanging points of view on these delicate issues, made it possible for me to discover this omission.

From my point of view, the United States and its NATO allies have said their last word. Two powerful states with authority and prestige did not exercise their right to veto the perfidious U.N. resolution.

It was the only possibility of gaining time to seek some formula for saving the peace, an objective that would have afforded them greater authority to continue fighting for it.

Today, everything is hanging from a tenuous thread.

My principal intention was to advise international public opinion of what was occurring.

I have in part achieved that by observing what was taking place, as a political leader who, for many years, has been confronting the empire, its blockades and its indescribable crimes. But I am not doing it out of revenge.

I am not hesitating to run the risks of compromising my modest moral authority.

I shall continue writing Reflections on the subject. There will be a number more after this one in order to continue going more profoundly into it in July and August, unless some incident occurs to trigger the deadly weapons currently pointed at each other.

I have very much enjoyed the final games of the World Cup and the volleyball games, in which our valiant team is marching at the head of its group in the World League of that sport.

Fidel Castro Ruz - July 11, 2010 - 8:14 p.m.

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« Reply #1161 on: July 15, 2010, 06:14:55 AM »

Study: Attack on Iran would be ‘start of long war’


By Daniel Tencer
Wednesday, July 14th, 2010 -- 9:59 pm
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0714/study-attack-iran-start-long-war/


Iran's response to an attack could send oil prices through the roof, think tank argues

An Israeli attack on Iran would fail to stop Tehran's alleged nuclear weapons program and would lead to a "long war" that would be marked by economic instability and mass civilian casualties, says a study from British think tank.

In a report (PDF) released Wednesday, the Oxford Research Group stated that, while the likelihood of a US attack on Iran's nuclear program has been lessened by the Obama administration's policies, advances in Israeli military technology have increased the potential for an Israeli attack.

The study, entitled "Military Action Against Iran: Impact and Effects," also argues that an attack on Iran's nuclear facilities would galvanize the Iranian public behind the leadership of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and give the regime in Tehran more support and rationale for developing nuclear capabilities.

"An Iranian administration under attack would experience considerable national unity and would work rapidly to redevelop its weapons programs, withdrawing from the NPT and prioritizing nuclear weapons," the report states.


As a result of that, the study concluded, Israel would be forced into repeatedly attacking Iranian facilities, "resulting in prolonged conflict -- the start of a long war with potential regional and global consequences."

Furthermore, the report -- written by Paul Rogers, a professor of peace studies at Bradford University -- suggested that any Israeli strike on Iran would cause a large number of civilian casualties because the Israeli strike would likely not be limited to the nuclear facilities themselves.

Israel "would hit factories and research centers, and even university laboratories, in order to do as much damage as possible to the Iranian expertise that underpins the program," Rogers said in a press release. Any Israeli military attempt to neutralize Iran's nuclear facilities "would probably include attempts to kill those technocrats who manage Iran’s nuclear and missile programs."

“There would be many civilian casualties, both directly among people working on Iran’s nuclear and missile programs, but also their families as their living quarters were hit, and secretaries, cleaners, laborers and other staff in factories, research stations and university departments,” Rogers said.

The ORG argues in its report that Iran would have many options in retaliating for an attack on its nuclear facilities. Chief among them would be Iran's ability to block the Strait of Hormuz, the narrow body of water separating the Indian Ocean from the Persian Gulf, through which oil tankers from the Middle East have to travel. If Iran were to block the Strait, oil prices would jump dramatically throughout the world.

Iran could also launch "paramilitary and/or missile attacks" on Western oil processing facilities in the Middle East, and could begin supporting groups fighting the US presence in neighboring Afghanistan and Iraq.

Earlier this month, President Barack Obama signed into law another round of US sanctions against Iran, following on the heels of a fourth round of sanctions placed on the country by the UN.

Whether or not Iran is planning to build nuclear weapons has been an issue of controversy for years. While Iran says its nuclear program is purely for peaceful purposes, Israeli lawmakers have described it as an "existential threat" to the small Jewish state.

The ORG report says that Iran is "slowly developing the technologies and personnel to enable it to handle a range of nuclear-related systems." If the country were to decide to use those capabilities to make weapons, it would take three to seven years for it to produce six usable weapons.

"There is no firm evidence that such a decision has been taken, but the nature of recent construction projects, especially those underground, suggests that the leadership at least wants the option of a capability, even if it is held in reserve rather than implemented," the report states.

The Oxford Research Group describes itself as "an independent non-governmental organisation and registered charity, which works together with others to promote a more sustainable approach to security for the UK and the world." It is not affiliated with Oxford University.

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« Reply #1162 on: July 15, 2010, 10:11:31 AM »

Thursday, Jul. 15, 2010

An Attack on Iran: Back on the Table


By Joe Klein
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2003921,00.html?huffpo-direct

In late 2006, George W. Bush met with the Joint Chiefs of Staff at the Pentagon and asked if military action against Iran's nuclear program was feasible. The unanimous answer was no. Air strikes could take out some of Iran's nuclear facilities, but there was no way to eliminate all of them. Some of the nuclear labs were located in heavily populated areas; others were deep underground. And Iran's ability to strike back by unconventional means, especially through its Hizballah terrorist network, was formidable. The military option was never officially taken off the table. At least, that's what U.S. officials always said. But the emphasis was on the implausibility of a military strike. "Another war in the Middle East is the last thing we need," Secretary of Defense Robert Gates wrote in 2008. It would be "disastrous on a number of levels." (See pictures of President Bush in the Middle East.)

Gates is sounding more belligerent these days. "I don't think we're prepared to even talk about containing a nuclear Iran," he told Fox News on June 20. "We do not accept the idea of Iran having nuclear weapons." In fact, Gates was reflecting a new reality in the military and intelligence communities. Diplomacy and economic pressure remain the preferred means to force Iran to negotiate a nuclear deal, but there isn't much hope that's going to happen. "Will [sanctions] deter them from their ambitions with regards to nuclear capability?" CIA Director Leon Panetta told ABC News on June 27. "Probably not." So the military option is very much back on the table.

What has changed? "I started to rethink this last November," a recently retired U.S. official with extensive knowledge of the issue told me. "We offered the Iranians a really generous deal, which their negotiators accepted," he went on, referring to the offer to exchange Iran's 1.2 tons of low-enriched uranium (3.5% pure) for higher-enriched (20%) uranium for medical research and use. "When the leadership shot that down, I began to think, Well, we made the good-faith effort to engage. What do we do now?" (See pictures of terror in Tehran.)

Other intelligence sources say that the U.S. Army's Central Command, which is in charge of organizing military operations in the Middle East, has made some real progress in planning targeted air strikes — aided, in large part, by the vastly improved human-intelligence operations in the region. "There really wasn't a military option a year ago," an Israeli military source told me. "But they've gotten serious about the planning, and the option is real now." Israel has been brought into the planning process, I'm told, because U.S. officials are frightened by the possibility that the right-wing Netanyahu government might go rogue and try to whack the Iranians on its own. (Comment on this story.)

One other factor has brought the military option to a low boil: Iran's Sunni neighbors really want the U.S. to do it. When United Arab Emirates Ambassador Yousef al-Otaiba said on July 6 that he favored a military strike against Iran despite the economic and military consequences to his country, he was reflecting an increasingly adamant attitude in the region. Senior American officials who travel to the Gulf frequently say the Saudis, in particular, raise the issue with surprising ardor. Everyone from the Turks to the Egyptians to the Jordanians are threatening to go nuclear if Iran does. That is seen as a real problem in the most volatile region in the world: What happens, for example, if Saudi Arabia gets a bomb, and the deathless monarchy there is overthrown by Islamist radicals?

For the moment, the White House remains as skeptical as ever about a military strike. Most senior military leaders also believe Gates got it right the first time — even a targeted attack on Iran would be "disastrous on a number of levels." It would unify the Iranian people against the latest in a long series of foreign interventions. It would also unify much of the world — including countries like Russia and China that we've worked hard to cultivate — against a recowboyfied U.S. There would certainly be an Iranian reaction — in Iraq, in Afghanistan, by Lebanese Hizballah against Israel and by the Hizballah network against the U.S. and Saudi homelands. A catastrophic regional war is not impossible. (See who's who in Barack Obama's White House.)

Of course, it is also possible that this low-key saber-rattling is simply a message the U.S. is trying to send the Iranians: it's time to deal. There have been rumblings from Tehran about resuming negotiations, although the regime has very little credibility right now. The assumption — shared even by some of Iran's former friends, like the Russians — is that any Iranian offer to talk is really an offer to stall. A specific, plausible Iranian concession may be needed to get the process back on track. But it is also possible that the saber-rattling is not a bluff, that the U.S. really won't tolerate a nuclear Iran and is prepared to do something awful to stop it.

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« Reply #1163 on: July 16, 2010, 05:01:20 AM »

Death toll from SE Iran blasts hits 27


Fri, 16 Jul 2010 07:32:30 GMT
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=134992&sectionid=351020101

 
The aftermath of the Zahedan blasts is shown in this IRNA picture.
  
The death toll from the twin bomb blasts in the southeastern Iranian city of Zahedan has reached 27 while more than ten times as many have been injured.

The late July 15 blasts hit outside the city's Grand Mosque, leaving widespread devastations in its trail, IRNA reported on Friday.

The two explosions that took place in front of the mosque on also ripped through nearby shops.

The first explosion occurred at 9:20 p.m. local time (1650 GMT) and was followed by a second blast within minutes, local officials said Thursday.

Emergency efforts are underway to help those injured.

It is widely believed that hard-line Wahabis and Salafis trained by the CIA in Pakistan are the main elements behind the bombings.

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« Reply #1164 on: July 16, 2010, 05:04:26 AM »

'West, Israel linked to SE Iran blasts'

Fri, 16 Jul 2010 06:23:50 GMT
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=134983&sectionid=351020101

 
An IRNA photo showing the deaths and devastations of the July 15 bomb explosions in the Iranian city of Zahedan.
 
A ranking official with the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) has implicated "the US, Israel and some European countries" in the deadly blasts in the southeastern Iranian city of Zahedan.

Yadollah Javani, the head of IRGC's political bureau, said late Thursday that the latest terrorist attack in the southeastern province of Sistan-Baluchestan points to the involvement of terrorist groups under the auspices of the United States, Israel and some Western countries, which seek sectarian division, Fars news agency reported.

Two explosions in the front of Zahedan's Grand Mosque on Thursday left more than 20 martyrs and over 100 injured.

The first explosion occurred at 9:20 p.m. local time (1650 GMT) in front of the city's Grand Mosque, and was followed by a second blast within minutes.

"The enemy seeks out division between Shia and Sunni Muslims in order to create chaos in the country," Javani noted.

"One could not doubt the involvement of secret foreign services in the efforts to generate tension amongst Muslims," he further explained.

The Iranian official also noted that confessions made by Abdolmalek Rigi, the Pakistan-based Jundallah terrorist group's ringleader, before his execution last month, unveiled widespread US support for waging an insurgency against the Islamic Republic.

"Rigi's confessions prove that the US, Zionists and some European countries are directly linked with the Zahedan blasts, because he had confessed that the US wants bomb attacks to be carried out across Iran," he said.

After Rigi's execution, Jundallah was effectively disbanded and experts say that the group is highly unlikely to have carried out the latest blasts.

It is widely believed that hard-line Wahabis and Salafis trained by the CIA in Pakistan are the main elements behind the bombings.

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« Reply #1165 on: July 16, 2010, 05:43:07 AM »

Chomsky: Is the U.S. Gearing Up for the Destruction of Iran?

Iran sits at the top of US concerns about keeping control of Middle East oil-producing regions, preparing for serious violence if other means do not suffice.

By Noam Chomsky, Noam Chomsky's Official Site
Posted on July 15, 2010, Printed on July 16, 2010
http://www.alternet.org/story/147572/

The dire threat of Iran is widely recognized to be the most serious foreign policy crisis facing the Obama administration. General Petraeus informed the Senate Committee on Armed Services in March 2010 that "the Iranian regime is the primary state-level threat to stability" in the U.S. Central Command area of responsibility, the Middle East and Central Asia, the primary region of US global concerns. The term "stability" here has its usual technical meaning: firmly under US control.

In June 2010 Congress strengthened the sanctions against Iran, with even more severe penalties against foreign companies. The Obama administration has been rapidly expanding US offensive capacity in the African island of Diego Garcia, claimed by Britain, which had expelled the population so that the US could build the massive base it uses for attacks in the Central Command area. The Navy reports sending a submarine tender to the island to service nuclear-powered guided-missile submarines with Tomahawk missiles, which can carry nuclear warheads. Each submarine is reported to have the striking power of a typical carrier battle group. According to a US Navy cargo manifest obtained by the Sunday Herald (Glasgow), the substantial military equipment Obama has dispatched includes 387 "bunker busters" used for blasting hardened underground structures. Planning for these "massive ordnance penetrators," the most powerful bombs in the arsenal short of nuclear weapons, was initiated in the Bush administration, but languished. On taking office, Obama immediately accelerated the plans, and they are to be deployed several years ahead of schedule, aiming specifically at Iran.

"They are gearing up totally for the destruction of Iran," according to Dan Plesch, director of the Centre for International Studies and Diplomacy at the University of London. "US bombers and long range missiles are ready today to destroy 10,000 targets in Iran in a few hours," he said. "The firepower of US forces has quadrupled since 2003," accelerating under Obama.

The Arab press reports that an American fleet (with an Israeli vessel) passed through the Suez Canal on the way to the Persian Gulf, where its task is "to implement the sanctions against Iran and supervise the ships going to and from Iran." British and Israeli media report that Saudi Arabia is providing a corridor for Israeli bombing of Iran (denied by Saudi Arabia). On his return from Afghanistan to reassure NATO allies that the US will stay the course after the replacement of General McChrystal by his superior, General Petraeus, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Michael Mullen visited Israel to meet IDF Chief of Staff Gabi Ashkenazi and senior military staff along with intelligence and planning units, continuing the annual strategic dialogue between Israel and the U.S. The meeting focused "on the preparation by both Israel and the U.S. for the possibility of a nuclear capable Iran," according to Haaretz, which reports further that Mullen emphasized that "I always try to see challenges from Israeli perspective." Mullen and Ashkenazi are in regular contact on a secure line.

The increasing threats of military action against Iran are of course in violation of the UN Charter, and in specific violation of Security Council resolution 1887 of September 2009 which reaffirmed the call to all states to resolve disputes related to nuclear issues peacefully, in accordance with the Charter, which bans the use or threat of force.

Some analysts who seem to be taken seriously describe the Iranian threat in apocalyptic terms. Amitai Etzioni warns that "The U.S. will have to confront Iran or give up the Middle East," no less. If Iran's nuclear program proceeds, he asserts, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and other states will "move toward" the new Iranian "superpower." To rephrase in less fevered rhetoric, a regional alliance might take shape independent of the US. In the US army journal Military Review, Etzioni urges a US attack that targets not only Iran's nuclear facilities but also its non-nuclear military assets, including infrastructure -- meaning, the civilian society. "This kind of military action is akin to sanctions - causing 'pain' in order to change behaviour, albeit by much more powerful means."

Such inflammatory pronouncements aside, what exactly is the Iranian threat? An authoritative answer is provided by military and intelligence reports to Congress in April 2010 [Lieutenant General Ronald L. Burgess, Director, Defense Intelligence Agency, Statement before the Committee on Armed Services, US Senate, 14 April 2010; Unclassified Report on Military Power of Iran, April 2010; John J. Kruzel, American Forces Press Service, "Report to Congress Outlines Iranian Threats," April 2010.

The brutal clerical regime is doubtless a threat to its own people, though it does not rank particularly high in that respect in comparison to US allies in the region. But that is not what concerns the military and intelligence assessments. Rather, they are concerned with the threat Iran poses to the region and the world.

The reports make it clear that the Iranian threat is not military. Iran's military spending is "relatively low compared to the rest of the region," and of course minuscule as compared to the US. Iranian military doctrine is strictly "defensive, ... designed to slow an invasion and force a diplomatic solution to hostilities." Iran has only "a limited capability to project force beyond its borders." With regard to the nuclear option, "Iran's nuclear program and its willingness to keep open the possibility of developing nuclear weapons is a central part of its deterrent strategy."

Though the Iranian threat is not military aggression, that does not mean that it might be tolerable to Washington. Iranian deterrent capacity is considered an illegitimate exercise of sovereignty that interferes with US global designs. Specifically, it threatens US control of Middle East energy resources, a high priority of planners since World War II. As one influential figure advised, expressing a common understanding, control of these resources yields "substantial control of the world" (A. A. Berle).

But Iran's threat goes beyond deterrence. It is also seeking to expand its influence. Iran's "current five-year plan seeks to expand bilateral, regional, and international relations, strengthen Iran's ties with friendly states, and enhance its defense and deterrent capabilities. Commensurate with that plan, Iran is seeking to increase its stature by countering U.S. influence and expanding ties with regional actors while advocating Islamic solidarity." In short, Iran is seeking to "destabilize" the region, in the technical sense of the term used by General Petraeus. US invasion and military occupation of Iran's neighbors is "stabilization." Iran's efforts to extend its influence in neighboring countries is "destabilization," hence plainly illegitimate. It should be noted that such revealing usage is routine. Thus the prominent foreign policy analyst James Chace, former editor of the main establishment journal Foreign Affairs, was properly using the term "stability" in its technical sense when he explained that in order to achieve "stability" in Chile it was necessary to "destabilize" the country (by overthrowing the elected Allende government and installing the Pinochet dictatorship).

Beyond these crimes, Iran is also carrying out and supporting terrorism, the reports continue. Its Revolutionary Guards "are behind some of the deadliest terrorist attacks of the past three decades," including attacks on US military facilities in the region and "many of the insurgent attacks on Coalition and Iraqi Security Forces in Iraq since 2003." Furthermore Iran backs Hezbollah and Hamas, the major political forces in Lebanon and in Palestine -- if elections matter. The Hezbollah-based coalition handily won the popular vote in Lebanon's latest (2009) election. Hamas won the 2006 Palestinian election, compelling the US and Israel to institute the harsh and brutal siege of Gaza to punish the miscreants for voting the wrong way in a free election. These have been the only relatively free elections in the Arab world. It is normal for elite opinion to fear the threat of democracy and to act to deter it, but this is a rather striking case, particularly alongside of strong US support for the regional dictatorships, emphasized by Obama with his strong praise for the brutal Egyptian dictator Mubarak on the way to his famous address to the Muslim world in Cairo.

The terrorist acts attributed to Hamas and Hezbollah pale in comparison to US-Israeli terrorism in the same region, but they are worth a look nevertheless.

On May 25 Lebanon celebrated its national holiday Liberation Day, commemorating Israel's withdrawal from southern Lebanon after 22 years, as a result of Hezbollah resistance -- described by Israeli authorities as "Iranian aggression" against Israel in Israeli-occupied Lebanon (Ephraim Sneh). That too is normal imperial usage. Thus President John F. Kennedy condemned the "the assault from the inside" in South Vietnam, "which is manipulated from the North." This criminal assault by the South Vietnamese resistance against Kennedy's bombers, chemical warfare, programs to drive peasants to virtual concentration camps, and other such benign measures was denounced as "internal aggression" by Kennedy's UN Ambassador, liberal hero Adlai Stevenson. North Vietnamese support for their countrymen in the US-occupied South is aggression, intolerable interference with Washington's righteous mission. Kennedy advisors Arthur Schlesinger and Theodore Sorenson, considered doves, also praised Washington's intervention to reverse "aggression" in South Vietnam -- by the indigenous resistance, as they knew, at least if they read US intelligence reports. In 1955 the US Joint Chiefs of Staff had defined several types of "aggression," including "Aggression other than armed, i.e., political warfare, or subversion." For example, an internal uprising against a US-imposed police state, or elections that come out the wrong way. The usage is also common in scholarship and political commentary, and makes sense on the prevailing assumption that We Own the World.

Hamas resists Israel's military occupation and its illegal and violent actions in the occupied territories. It is accused of refusing to recognize Israel (political parties do not recognize states). In contrast, the US and Israel not only do not recognize Palestine, but have been acting relentlessly and decisively for decades to ensure that it can never come into existence in any meaningful form. The governing party in Israel, in its 1999 campaign platform, bars the existence of any Palestinian state -- a step towards accommodation beyond the official positions of the US and Israel a decade earlier, which held that there cannot be "an additional Palestinian state" between Israel and Jordan, the latter a "Palestinian state" by US-Israeli fiat whatever its benighted inhabitants and government might believe.

Hamas is charged with rocketing Israeli settlements on the border, criminal acts no doubt, though a fraction of Israel's violence in Gaza, let alone elsewhere. It is important to bear in mind, in this connection, that the US and Israel know exactly how to terminate the terror that they deplore with such passion. Israel officially concedes that there were no Hamas rockets as long as Israel partially observed a truce with Hamas in 2008. Israel rejected Hamas's offer to renew the truce, preferring to launch the murderous and destructive Operation Cast Lead against Gaza in December 2008, with full US backing, an exploit of murderous aggression without the slightest credible pretext on either legal or moral grounds.

The model for democracy in the Muslim world, despite serious flaws, is Turkey, which has relatively free elections, and has also been subject to harsh criticism in the US. The most extreme case was when the government followed the position of 95% of the population and refused to join in the invasion of Iraq, eliciting harsh condemnation from Washington for its failure to comprehend how a democratic government should behave: under our concept of democracy, the voice of the Master determines policy, not the near-unanimous voice of the population.

The Obama administration was once again incensed when Turkey joined with Brazil in arranging a deal with Iran to restrict its enrichment of uranium. Obama had praised the initiative in a letter to Brazil's president Lula da Silva, apparently on the assumption that it would fail and provide a propaganda weapon against Iran. When it succeeded, the US was furious, and quickly undermined it by ramming through a Security Council resolution with new sanctions against Iran that were so meaningless that China cheerfully joined at once -- recognizing that at most the sanctions would impede Western interests in competing with China for Iran's resources. Once again, Washington acted forthrightly to ensure that others would not interfere with US control of the region.

Not surprisingly, Turkey (along with Brazil) voted against the US sanctions motion in the Security Council. The other regional member, Lebanon, abstained. These actions aroused further consternation in Washington. Philip Gordon, the Obama administration's top diplomat on European affairs, warned Turkey that its actions are not understood in the US and that it must "demonstrate its commitment to partnership with the West," AP reported, "a rare admonishment of a crucial NATO ally."

The political class understands as well. Steven A. Cook, a scholar with the Council on Foreign Relations, observed that the critical question now is "How do we keep the Turks in their lane?" -- following orders like good democrats. A New York Times headline captured the general mood: "Iran Deal Seen as Spot on Brazilian Leader's Legacy." In brief, do what we say, or else.

There is no indication that other countries in the region favor US sanctions any more than Turkey does. On Iran's opposite border, for example, Pakistan and Iran, meeting in Turkey, recently signed an agreement for a new pipeline. Even more worrisome for the US is that the pipeline might extend to India. The 2008 US treaty with India supporting its nuclear programs -- and indirectly its nuclear weapons programs -- was intended to stop India from joining the pipeline, according to Moeed Yusuf, a South Asia adviser to the United States Institute of Peace, expressing a common interpretation. India and Pakistan are two of the three nuclear powers that have refused to sign the Non-proliferation Treaty (NPT), the third being Israel. All have developed nuclear weapons with US support, and still do.

No sane person wants Iran to develop nuclear weapons; or anyone. One obvious way to mitigate or eliminate this threat is to establish a nuclear weapons-free zone (NWFZ) in the Middle East. The issue arose (again) at the NPT conference at United Nations headquarters in early May 2010. Egypt, as chair of the 118 nations of the Non-Aligned Movement, proposed that the conference back a plan calling for the start of negotiations in 2011 on a Middle East NWFZ, as had been agreed by the West, including the US, at the 1995 review conference on the NPT.

Washington still formally agrees, but insists that Israel be exempted -- and has given no hint of allowing such provisions to apply to itself. The time is not yet ripe for creating the zone, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton stated at the NPT conference, while Washington insisted that no proposal can be accepted that calls for Israel's nuclear program to be placed under the auspices of the IAEA or that calls on signers of the NPT, specifically Washington, to release information about "Israeli nuclear facilities and activities, including information pertaining to previous nuclear transfers to Israel." Obama's technique of evasion is to adopt Israel's position that any such proposal must be conditional on a comprehensive peace settlement, which the US can delay indefinitely, as it has been doing for 35 years, with rare and temporary exceptions.

At the same time, Yukiya Amano, head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, asked foreign ministers of its 151 member states to share views on how to implement a resolution demanding that Israel "accede to" the NPT and throw its nuclear facilities open to IAEA oversight, AP reported.

It is rarely noted that the US and UK have a special responsibility to work to establish a Middle East NWFZ. In attempting to provide a thin legal cover for their invasion of the Iraq in 2003, they appealed to Security Council Resolution 687 (1991), which called on Iraq to terminate its development of weapons of mass destruction. The US and UK claimed that they had not done so. We need not tarry on the excuse, but that Resolution commits its signers to move to establish a NWFZ in the Middle East.

Parenthetically, we may add that US insistence on maintaining nuclear facilities in Diego Garcia undermines the NWFZ established by the African Union, just as Washington continues to block a Pacific NWFZ by excluding its Pacific dependencies.

Obama's rhetorical commitment to non-proliferation has received much praise, even a Nobel peace prize. One practical step in this direction is establishment of NWFZs. Another is to withdraw support for the nuclear programs of the three non-signers of the NPT. As often, rhetoric and actions are hardly aligned, in fact are in direct contradiction in this case, facts that pass with as little attention as most of what has just been briefly reviewed.

Instead of taking practical steps towards reducing the truly dire threat of nuclear weapons proliferation, the US is taking major steps towards reinforcing US control of the vital Middle East oil-producing regions, by violence if other means do not suffice. That is understandable and even reasonable, under prevailing imperial doctrine, however grim the consequences, yet another illustration of "the savage injustice of the Europeans" that Adam Smith deplored in 1776, with the command center since shifted to their imperial settlement across the seas.


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« Reply #1166 on: July 21, 2010, 07:56:40 AM »


Rising speculation about bombing Iran's nukes

By: Michael Barone
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July 21, 2010
http://www.sfexaminer.com/politics/Rising-speculation-about-bombing-Iran_s-nukes-1002107-98879894.html
 
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Many years ago I was privileged to attend a dinner with James Rowe, one of the "passion for anonymity" young aides to Franklin Roosevelt, original author of the winning strategy for Harry Truman's 1948 campaign and close confidant of then-President Lyndon Johnson.

Rowe described how Johnson tested insider opinion. He would call an ideologically wide range of acquaintances and ask their views on an issue of the day. Most responded as he expected. But when one or two said something he hadn't expected he would take notice. Maybe things weren't going as he thought.

That memory returned as I read three recent articles saying there's an increasing chance that the United States -- or Israel -- might well bomb Iran's nuclear facilities. One was by Time's Joe Klein, who has been a harsh critic of George W. Bush's military policies and a skeptic about action against Iran. The other was by self-described centrist Walter Russell Mead in his ever-fascinating American Interest blog.

Former CIA agent Reuel Marc Gerecht in the Weekly Standard argues cogently that an Israeli strike on Iran's nuclear facilities would not lead to all the negative consequences widely feared and could shatter the mullah regime. This is not out of line with his views over the years.

Gerecht assumes that the United States will not launch an attack. Klein, contrary to his past views, disagrees. He cites American diplomats who feel that Iran's spurning of a reasonable deal justifies military action and American military officers who say they know more about potential targets than they did two years ago. Also, he says the Gulf Arab states favor a strike, as evidenced by the United Arab Emirates ambassador's July 6 statement saying that it would be preferable to a nuclear Iran.

Klein thinks President Obama is still dead set against bombing Iran. Mead is not so sure. He thinks Obama is motivated by a Wilsonian desire for "the construction of a liberal and orderly world." Or "the European Union built up to a global scale." A successful Iranian nuclear program, in Mead's view, would be "the complete, utter and historic destruction" of Obama's long-term goals of a non-nuclear world and a cooperative international order.

This may sound far-fetched. But recall that Woodrow Wilson was re-elected in 1916 on the slogan "He kept us out of war." Then in 1917 he went to war and quickly built the most stringent wartime state -- with private businesses nationalized and political dissenters jailed -- in modern American history. A Wilsonian desire for international order is not inconsistent with aggressive military action. Sometimes the two are compatible.

It would be ironic if the professorial Barack Obama launches a military attack when his supposedly cowboy predecessor George W. Bush declined to do so. I remember attending meetings of conservative columnists with Bush in which his words and body language convinced me he would not order the bombing of Iran.

The fact is that Iran has been at war with the United States since 1979, when it seized and held our diplomats for 444 days -- an act of war under settled principles of international law. Few in the United States then wanted to regard it as such (though Pat Moynihan said we should "bring fire and brimstone to the gates of Tehran").

Later, the mullah regime sponsored the 1983 attack on our Marine Corps barracks in Lebanon and attacks on our soldiers in Iraq -- more acts of war. Six presidents have chosen not to retaliate for reasons of prudence that have much to commend them. War with Iran would be a terrible thing. But one can also believe, as the UAE ambassador incautiously said, a nuclear-armed Iran would be even worse.

Joe Klein may be right that "this low-level saber-rattling" he describes may be "simply a message that the U.S. is trying to send the Iranians: It's time to deal." Walter Russell Mead may be right in saying "there's a possibility that [Obama] will flinch." But I take it seriously when these two nonhawks say Obama might bomb Iran. LBJ would have taken it seriously, too.


Michael Barone, The Examiner's senior political analyst, can be contacted at mbarone@washingtonexaminer.com. His columns appear Wednesday and Sunday, and his stories and blog posts appear on ExaminerPolitics.com.





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« Reply #1167 on: July 21, 2010, 03:59:28 PM »

Question for everybody here, why is Iran stockpiling their nuclear material at Natanz where it is vulnerable to a military attack?

Hmmmmm.

Could it be Ahmedinejad is an Illuminazi shill?  On the payroll?

Helping the future attack to both wipe out the Iranian capacity to make nukes potentially in the future (to answer Israeli dominance in the region -- it has hundred of nukes it still will not admit to in contravention of the non-proliferation treaty it refuses to sign) --AND allowing the material (very radioactive) to be spread widely as the result of a military attack by Israel and/or the United States when the time comes -- for maximum effect?

The show (on all three sides) continues apace.

And remember, if a gun is introduced in the first act...
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« Reply #1168 on: July 21, 2010, 06:06:23 PM »

I'm sure Ahmedinejad is a puppet. They all are, whether conscious of it or not.
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« Reply #1169 on: July 23, 2010, 02:30:44 PM »

Ron,

You can still post the headline and 2-3 paragraphs -- say the first few paragraphs of an article that you think is relevant along with any commentary/explanatory material of your own.

This is not very different from the way the first few paragraphs of an article are posted on Infowars or Prisonplanet with a link to the original.

Please don't stop posting entirely.  I have followed this thread on Iran and another thread of yours on Pakistan for some time.  I think they are very important.

If the new rule casued you to stop posting entirely, I would think it was a disaster, but that doesn't need to be.

Don' go.

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« Reply #1170 on: July 23, 2010, 09:28:48 PM »

Ron,

You can still post the headline and 2-3 paragraphs -- say the first few paragraphs of an article that you think is relevant along with any commentary/explanatory material of your own.

This is not very different from the way the first few paragraphs of an article are posted on Infowars or Prisonplanet with a link to the original.

Please don't stop posting entirely.  I have followed this thread on Iran and another thread of yours on Pakistan for some time.  I think they are very important.

If the new rule casued you to stop posting entirely, I would think it was a disaster, but that doesn't need to be.

Don' go.

CX

I agree - I see this same rule on many other forums I frequent - where we can only post 3-4 paras at most. Personally, I have no problems with this rule, as I will only read the first 2-3 paras to get the big picture of the story to begin with(as because of time constraints, rarely have time to read it in its entirety, and it's a headache to look at the entire big article to begin with).
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« Reply #1171 on: July 24, 2010, 04:51:50 PM »

House approves possible Israeli strike against Iran, "greenlighting" attack.  Is this a "war resloution"?

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=136016&sectionid=3510201

Is attack iminent?

Will it take place before Aug. 1 turnover of Iraqi airspace by U.S. to new Iraqi government?

http://america-hijacked.com/2010/05/06/a-timetable-for-war/

One more article on possible iminent hostilities:

http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2010/02/17/israel%e2%80%99s-attack-on-iran-a-15-minute-war-to-save-a-dying-theocracyethno-state/

Again, bigron, come back.  We need you now more than ever.  You can post parts of the articles still that you feel are relevant (along with commentary or explanatory background).

This is a crucial issue, and you were doing a fine job of helping to keep forum members informed about it.  I defeintely don't like this new policy either having thought about it, but we still have to do everything that we can, IMO.

I'll bet if you think about it, you will feel the same.

This is a very important thread right now on our forum.

I think the impeding war with Iran along with maybe the BP oil spill is a big reason why the PTB are cracking down on alternative media and journalism.  They've got hot stories going on right now they can't let out.

I have seen nothing today in the MSM about this new "resolution".  They don't even want Ma and Pa America to knwo what they are doing and what they are about to do right now.

It is amazing, and it is a crock of $hit.
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« Reply #1172 on: July 24, 2010, 05:18:31 PM »

House approves possible Israeli strike against Iran, "greenlighting" attack.  Is this a "war resloution"?

H. Res. 1553: Expressing support for the State of Israel's right to defend Israeli sovereignty, to protect the lives and safety of the Israeli people, and to use all means necessary to confront and eliminate nuclear threats posed by the Islamic Republic of Iran, including the use of military force if no other peaceful solution can be found within reasonable time to protect against such an immediate and existential threat to the State of Israel
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=hr111-1553

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« Reply #1173 on: July 24, 2010, 05:23:46 PM »

Thx for excerpting that, Freeski. (To be honest, I don't know how to do that except for typing.  I'm pretty low-tech.)

How do you do that?
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« Reply #1174 on: July 24, 2010, 05:37:59 PM »

Thx for excerpting that, Freeski. (To be honest, I don't know how to do that except for typing.  I'm pretty low-tech.)

How do you do that?

Just highlight the text you want and go to the edit menu -- select copy -- then go to where you want to paste it and select "paste". If it's in a PDF document, you sometimes need to switch from the "hand" cursor to the "text" cursor. Hope that helps!
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« Reply #1175 on: July 24, 2010, 05:40:52 PM »

Wow, thanks.  Yeah that helps a lot.  It's a lot easier than I thought.

Thx again, Freeski.
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« Reply #1176 on: July 24, 2010, 05:43:48 PM »

Wow, thanks.  Yeah that helps a lot.  It's a lot easier than I thought.

Thx again, Freeski.

No sweat. Your life has just changed! Grin
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« Reply #1177 on: July 24, 2010, 06:03:44 PM »

LOL

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« Reply #1178 on: July 24, 2010, 09:06:09 PM »

House approves possible Israeli strike against Iran, "greenlighting" attack.  Is this a "war resloution"?

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=136016&sectionid=3510201

Is attack iminent?

Will it take place before Aug. 1 turnover of Iraqi airspace by U.S. to new Iraqi government?

http://america-hijacked.com/2010/05/06/a-timetable-for-war/

One more article on possible iminent hostilities:

http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2010/02/17/israel%e2%80%99s-attack-on-iran-a-15-minute-war-to-save-a-dying-theocracyethno-state/

Again, bigron, come back.  We need you now more than ever.  You can post parts of the articles still that you feel are relevant (along with commentary or explanatory background).

This is a crucial issue, and you were doing a fine job of helping to keep forum members informed about it.  I defeintely don't like this new policy either having thought about it, but we still have to do everything that we can, IMO.

I'll bet if you think about it, you will feel the same.

This is a very important thread right now on our forum.

I think the impeding war with Iran along with maybe the BP oil spill is a big reason why the PTB are cracking down on alternative media and journalism.  They've got hot stories going on right now they can't let out.

I have seen nothing today in the MSM about this new "resolution".  They don't even want Ma and Pa America to knwo what they are doing and what they are about to do right now.

It is amazing, and it is a crock of $hit.

Well, I sure hope not for the next couple of weeks, because my dad will be going to India for 2 weeks starting tomorrow. So if the imminent strike doesn't happen for at least another 2 weeks, then I'll be happy.
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« Reply #1179 on: July 24, 2010, 09:13:44 PM »

Well, I certainly hope your dad will be OK.  I am flying Aug. 1 with my wife and daughter back to the states.  I doubt if these things will be affected, but we really may not have two weeks before an attack is inititiated, if it is not prevented.

The legal structure is in place in the U.S (and Iran).

The pieces are in position.

There is an apparent deadline that could severely affect strategy/tactics.

These things are very real.
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« Reply #1180 on: July 24, 2010, 09:36:53 PM »

Citizenx, what is the apparent deadline?
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« Reply #1181 on: July 24, 2010, 09:49:19 PM »

Well, I certainly hope your dad will be OK.  I am flying Aug. 1 with my wife and daughter back to the states.  I doubt if these things will be affected, but we really may not have two weeks before an attack is inititiated, if it is not prevented.

The legal structure is in place in the U.S (and Iran).

The pieces are in position.

There is an apparent deadline that could severely affect strategy/tactics.

These things are very real.

Who knows how these things will play out - but it wouldn't surprise me if, let's say, after Iran's nuclear facilities get ousted, Bibi and Obama will finally come to terms with some "peace treaty" that's been anticipated since Bush II's last year in office. Then Bibi could use this opportunity as a set up - while he made everyone think he made "peace" with the PA, he could very well sneak attack Syria and other surrounding ME countries, and WW3 could break out from there.

Not saying this will play out like this, but I have a feeling that the initial strike on Iran will be just for a brief period, and make everyone think that Iran's nuclear facilities supposedly have been taken out, and the "world will be at peace".
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« Reply #1182 on: July 24, 2010, 11:00:17 PM »

Citizenx, what is the apparent deadline?
Well, I'm not saying this is written in stone, but as of Aug. 1, we supposedly hand back control of thier airspace to the Iraqis, so that could affect our options (and the Israeli's options) as far as using Iraqi airpsace in such an attack.

What it could mean is that our options might be more limited as of Aug. 1 -- unless of course the date to hand back control is postponed, which they coudl do as well.

Given that the legal structure is now in place, and the ships, subs and carriers are in place now though, it seems highly likely something is iminent.  If they maintain the same ships in the region, they will eventually be under some pressure to cycle personnel and equipment.  They cannot maintain the same exact force in readiness indefinitely.

Now, maybe, the politicians have something else in mind.  That is certainly possible.  For example an "October" surprise to show that they are just as strong in terms of support for Israel/national defense as the Republicans.

So, I am not saying this must happen now, only that there are many signs that this is looming perceptibly on th horizon right  now.

Bottom line, the U.S and/or Israel could do this any time, it is merely a matter of if and when.
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« Reply #1183 on: July 27, 2010, 11:21:43 AM »

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100727/wl_nm/us_iran_ahmadinejad_attack

Ahmadinejad said Iran had "very precise information that the Americans have hatched a plot, according to which they to wage a psychological war against Iran."

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« Reply #1184 on: July 28, 2010, 02:49:39 AM »

Blast hits Japan oil tanker near Iran

An explosion hit a Japanese oil tanker in the early hours of Wednesday in the Strait of Hormuz near Iran and Oman, and the crew attributed the blast to an attack, the transport ministry said.

One crew member was injured and the ship, belonging to Mitsui OSK Lines, was partly damaged but able to continue sailing after the blast hit at 00.30am local time (0630 AEST), the Japanese ministry said.

"Since one of the crew saw a flash on the horizon immediately before the blast, the company suspects it was highly likely an attack," the transport ministry said, adding that the area was not known for commercial piracy.

http://news.brisbanetimes.com.au/breaking-news-world/blast-hits-japan-oil-tanker-near-iran-20100728-10vvu.html

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« Reply #1185 on: August 02, 2010, 03:30:07 AM »

I don t think anyone really knows what happen to the Japanese ship but I am willing to bet a lot of people would just love to pin this on Iran. It seems like they are having a hard time pinning this one on Iran. The truth will most likely come out slowly is the story is hounded on long enough. I really don` t think Iran is stupid enough to attack a Japanese tanker. Hell, Iran makes a lot of money off of Japan. Japan gets most of its oil from Iran and pays directly in Yen! I am certain Iran would rather make money than war.

As for what happened to that Japanese tanker I think either something in nature caused it or sabotage of some type. Considering that oil prices are most likely go into a crazy up and down trend later this year due to massive oil spills in the world this may have been an attempt to make the price go up instead of down. If can be made to look as if it is dangerous to ship oil out of that area the price of shipping will go up and drive the cost of oil up as well. All of that will be used for a higher agenda for sure. 
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« Reply #1186 on: August 02, 2010, 04:52:06 AM »

There's been talk about an attack on Iran for how long?

Me thinks there will be no attack, not now and not later.
They all know that Iran has no nukes. It is all a fear mongering game from tptb.
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« Reply #1187 on: August 02, 2010, 12:54:22 PM »

There's been talk about an attack on Iran for how long?

Me thinks there will be no attack, not now and not later.
They all know that Iran has no nukes. It is all a fear mongering game from tptb.

They are doing everything carefully, creating a world gobernment with a world wide catastrophe to justify it is not a easy thing like a hollywood script; the comimng war will not be only in the middleeast with Iran v/s Israel, it will be world wide, venezuela v/s colombia , NorthKorea v/s South korea, etc..., you can see that the elite have created belic tensions everywhere

Preparing for World War III, Targeting Iran
Part I: Global Warfare by Michel Chossudovsky
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Humanity is at a dangerous crossroads. War preparations to attack Iran are in "an advanced state of readiness". Hi tech weapons systems including nuclear warheads are fully deployed.

This military adventure has been on the Pentagon's drawing board since the mid-1990s. First Iraq, then Iran according to a declassified 1995 US Central Command document.

Escalation is part of the military agenda. While Iran, is the next target together with Syria and Lebanon, this strategic military deployment also threatens North Korea, China and Russia.
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« Reply #1188 on: August 04, 2010, 03:50:50 AM »

I smell a false flag...
CIA? MOSSAD?

Just in

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-10865085

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Iran's Ahmadinejad survives 'assassination attempt'

Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has survived an attack on his convoy in western Iran, media reports from the region say.

The reports say a device was thrown at the convoy in the city of Hamedan, where he was to deliver a speech.

Mr Ahmadinejad was unhurt and went ahead with the speech to a rally at a football stadium, which was broadcast live on state TV.

However, Iran's state-owned Press TV has denied the attack.

Arab TV reports said a number of people were wounded in the attack.

Dubai-based Al Arabiya television said the attacker hit a car carrying journalists. The attacker was detained, it added.

"This morning a hand grenade exploded next to a vehicle carrying reporters accompanying the president in Hamedan," Iranian website Khabaronline reported.

"Ahmadinejad's car was 100 metres (yards) away and he was not hurt."
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« Reply #1189 on: August 04, 2010, 04:06:00 AM »

Attack now denied...

Iran rejects Ahmadinejad attack reports
Wed, 04 Aug 2010 09:09:56 GMT

Speaking to Press TV, an informed source in Iran's presidential office has rejected as false the reports of grenade attack on Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Some foreign news sources published reports that a grenade exploded near the motorcade of President Ahmadinejad during his visit to the western city of Hamedan on Wednesday.

The source denied the reports, saying no such attack took place.

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« Reply #1190 on: August 06, 2010, 07:04:28 PM »

Barrack Obama is scheduling to remove massive troops from Iraq starting at the end of August.  This flies in the face of the internationalists who insist that the US be consumed up in these wars, and additionally Israel would prefer as many US troops on the ground to die and bleed for their nation fighting Iran.

Therefore I would *HIGHLY* recommend that people avoid shopping malls and theme parks in the US for the next month as the elite will pull a false flag so nasty it will be designed to trigger martial law and silence the world while Iran is nuked off the map...

Remember it is a requirement that a force must be matched with reciprocal force.  If the US just uses a nuke preemptively it will look like the bullies that they really are, and they themselves could end up under a massive trade embargo....

However if the elite can detonate a small dirty nuke somewhere in the US blame it on Iran, it will be the perfect pretext to knock Iran back off the map..
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« Reply #1191 on: August 07, 2010, 12:53:43 AM »

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/WORLD/americas/08/06/cuba.castro.assembly/story.castro.afp.gi.jpg

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/08/06/cuba.castro.assembly/index.html?hpt=T2


Remember folks Castro was a 'special friend' of the Rockefellers, when Barrack Obama doesn't know what's going on or what his next tele-prompter speech is going to be he calls the Rockefeller Center....

Castro KNOWS the war is coming, and he has been preparing his people for this coming war...

Who knows maybe Cuba is going to get nuked in the mix soon, once the US-Israeli-Saudi Arabian axis launches its nuclear option on Iran, dragging Russia, and covertly China into the foray.

Remember nobody CARES that Iran has a nuke or two except Isreal...  Its the fact that Saudi Arabian oil profits are threatened by increased Iranian oil shipments giving China alternative markets than the US.  Iran's 1000 Megawatt nuclear reactor slated to open this September will give the infrastructure in Iran enough electricity to become a small regional superpower.  This cannot be permitted in accordance with high occultic european interests, and israel...

REMEMBER

The moment the war breaks out, oil will goto $150 / barrel, gasoline is going to head to $6/gallon then $8 and so forth.
Bread will be $8-12 loaf depending on your region...

A economic choke hold will be applied to the citizens of the US for international profits.

Buy a large supply of cheap food such as RICE, or PULSE things to keep you healthy during the coming food shortages.

Anglo-Saxon Plan for WWIII

In a guest of it - A LIMITED NUCLEAR EXCHANGE BETWEEN IRAN AND ISRAEL IS PLANNED IN ORDER TO CRASH THE FINANCAL MARKETS CONSOLIDATING THEIR DESTRUCTION INTO A WORLD CURRENCY INTERNATIONALLY CONTROLLED.  A BRIEF CEASE FIRE IS PLANNED (BIBLE SCHOLARS ALWAYS REFERENCE AT A 3.5 YEAR MARK, AND A MASONIC CHRIST THAT WILL INITIATE A WORLD PEACE AND CANCEL ALL DEBTS..  THE DUMBED DOWN PUBLIC WILL FALL FOR THIS, HOWEVER IT WILL ONLY BE A CONTROL HOOK - YOUR DEBTS CANCELLED IN EXCHANGE FOR THE MARK SYSTEM (IMPLANTED MICROCHIPS)  ISRAEL IS PARTITIONED FOR PALESTINE, AND AT THIS POINT A MASSIVE EARTHQUAKE ROILS THE US SPLITTING CALIFORNIA INTO THE OCEAN.  RUSSIA SEES THAT THE UNITED STATES IS DOWN AND LAUNCHES A FULL NUCLEAR STRIKE LASTING 3 DAYS, FOLLOWED BY A CHINESE TROOP INVASION.  CHINA AND RUSSIA BREAK THEIR PEACE PACT, AND CHINA PUSHES RUSSIA TO THE GATES OF PARIS.  THEY SIGN A PEACE TREATY AND UNITE TO MARCH ON ISRAEL.  THE PROPHESIED BATTLE OF ARMAGEDDON IS FOUGHT, 200 MILLION MAN ARMY PERISHES.


http://www.scribd.com/doc/28362774/The-Secret-AngloSaxon-Meeting-for-WWIII
Daniel 38, Matthew, Revs 7 references (note the island moving earthquake....)

Wether you want to believe in prophecy or not its good to know it in its probability, however it must be stressed that even if none of this occurs you MUST STORE FOOD NOW WHILE ITS AVAILABLE.

Copy this warning and send it everywhere.  Remember US dominance is going to end fast, and it will mean LOTS of hungry people, and stupid amounts of crime..

I'll probably get blasted lots for this post or my account deleted (*again*) lol  meh!

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« Reply #1192 on: August 07, 2010, 04:41:46 AM »





Britain's Cameron criticized for Iran nuke gaffe

LONDON — Opposition politicians are needling British leader David Cameron for telling a town hall audience that Iran has a nuclear weapon.

The prime minister was speaking about Turkish accession to the European Union before a crowd of local residents in the English seaside town of Hove on Thursday when he made the slip.

Cameron said Turkey would be "a very good political influence for us" because the country "can help us solve some of the world's problems like the Middle East peace process and the fact that Iran has got a nuclear weapon."


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Further evidence that this invasion of Iran has less to do with the fact they have a nuclear weapon and everything to do with the fact they are becoming a regional powerhouse, which would become a blockage to the formation of a world government.

The world government cannot form without subverting the ideologies, and the indepedent strengths of non-compliant countries (Iran, Afghanistan Militants, North Korea etc etc)...

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« Reply #1193 on: August 07, 2010, 04:43:56 AM »

Ouuups, bad timing!  Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #1194 on: August 07, 2010, 05:01:11 AM »

Found in an Israeli paper...

Last Friday, Hamas fired a Grad-model Katyusha rocket from the Gaza Strip into Ashkelon, causing extensive damage; on Monday, Hamas fired six rockets from Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula into Eilat with some landing mistakenly in Aqaba; on Tuesday clashes erupted in the North; and on Wednesday, reports surfaced that Iran has finally obtained the celebrated Russian-made S-300 advanced air defense system.

In closed briefings with junior pilots, senior Israeli Air Force officers used this past week’s events to explain that in a future war they will be required to fly on the same day on multiple fronts.

http://www.jpost.com/Features/FrontLines/Article.aspx?id=183859



The S-300 is regarded as one of the most potent anti-aircraft missile systems currently fielded [2]. Its radars have the ability to simultaneously track up to 100 targets while engaging up to 12. S-300 deployment time is five minutes.[citation needed] The S-300 missiles are sealed rounds and require no maintenance over their lifetime. An evolved version of the S-300 system is the S-400 (NATO reporting name SA-21), entering service in 2004.

Note : US and Israeli forces may opt to attack Iran IMMEDIATELY in order to prevent Iran from getting a complete S-300 Missile Shield in place, making an attack upon their country that much more difficult...  Russia who is a long term Ally of Iran (weapons sales etc) may be rushing the S-300 to Iran before the military confrontation starts.  The big question is HOW MANY BATTERIES ARE IN PLACE NOW? 

*** ALL THE PIECES ARE IN PLACE FOLKS GET READY THIS SOUNDS LIKE A REAL GO, IT WILL BE NUCLEAR, IT WILL INVOLVE MARTIAL LAW, FOOD SHORTAGES, HIGH GASOLINE PRICES, A FALSE FLAG OR TWO, EVENTUAL DETAINMENT OF THE PATRIOT COMMUNITIES, THE SHUTDOWN OF THIS FORUM AND PRISONPLANET. *** 

The NWO will waste not a minute to crush the patriot movement in its entirety.  They could even attack a theme park or some other place of innocence, and by doing so FORCE the war machine into high gear and CRUSH any oppositions to war in its entirety...

It will ALSO REMOVE FOCUS ON THE BUNGLING JOB OF THE US ECONOMY, WITH PEOPLE SHIFTING INTO SURVIVAL MODE.

Warn everybody,  the war looks like its a go any week now,

The only other option is a ballastic nuclear weapons attack, with a massive T-LAM 3 cruise missile attack upon Iran, albeit many of these will be shot down by the advanced tracking capability of the S-300.
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« Reply #1195 on: August 07, 2010, 05:07:34 AM »



Iran claims to have smuggled anti aircraft missile systems into country
Iran claimed it had smuggled four S-300 anti aircraft missile systems with a 90 mile range in defiance of United Nations sanction that prompted a Russian ban on selling the sophisticated defence system to Tehran.


US and British officials responded with delight when Moscow unexpectedly pulled out of a deal to sell the system to Iran after the UN passed sanctions including an arms embargo on the Islamic state in June. But Tehran now claims it received two S-300s from Belarus and two others from another unspecified source.

If the news is confirmed, the threat posed by the system would be a serious deterent to military planners contemplating a strike on Iran's nuclear programme.

The S-300 is capable of shooting down aircraft, cruise missiles and ballistic missile warheads at ranges of more than 90 miles and at altitudes of about 90,000 feet.

A WAR COULD START IMMEDIATELY BEFORE THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO BUILD A STRONG S-300 SHIELD BY THE IMPORTATION OF DOZENS OF THESE SYSTEMS



Alexander Lukashenko, the Belarusian dictator, forged close ties with Tehran, while Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who visited the ex-Soviet nation in 2007, has called the Belarusian leader one of his best friends.
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« Reply #1196 on: August 07, 2010, 05:30:36 AM »

Cameron is an Idiot, truth is he always looked like an Idiot but MSM still managed to get the sheeple to vote for him. Given the state of the Labour party at the time and the hammering they were given by MSM, if he was even slightly credible he'd have won by a landslide.

He won gold in the Special Olympics.
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« Reply #1197 on: August 07, 2010, 06:44:32 AM »


Cameron said Turkey would be "a very good political influence for us" because the country "can help us solve some of the world's problems like the Middle East peace process and the fact that Iran has got a nuclear weapon."


Then he glanced down at his script, and realized he'd jumped a chapter ahead of himself... that wasn't supposed to be his line.. yet.

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« Reply #1198 on: August 07, 2010, 09:00:45 AM »

This is a scary bit of news.

I've been following the S-300 missile situation for some time.  The fact Iran got some, probably bodes ill.   

If Isreal is going to attack, it will be before Iran has properly trained on how to use it.  Aka. Really soon.
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« Reply #1199 on: August 07, 2010, 05:04:35 PM »

XR500Final2, I was thinking about this a bit ago.

If they wait to attack much latter or even next year, killing these defense systems will be priority number one.  Even more than the nuclear reactors.

So I can easily see a longer wait before war erupts.  But when it did, the use of stealth aircraft to hit these targets first.  Of course that is after spy tech identifies where they are located.
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