Okla. Joins 16 State 10th Amendment Movement Telling Rogue Feds, "Get LAWFUL!"

[Freeski]

So JTCoyoté, what I get out of this (and please note that I am a Canadian, not an American) is that there is and has been hostility between the States and the Feds for some time, regarding the role of the federal governent's assumption of power? Is the federal government, under the Constitution, not less powerful than are the individual states? Isn't that the whole idea behind the Union, that it's no more than a collection of States with a common interest? And that the federal government has only some defined powers?

[JTCoyoté]

Well not subservient as much as having a defined role and the states having another. The feds should not be able to make states do certain things and visa versa. This is why the feds threatened to withhold federal highway funds from states unless they raised their drinking age, because they had no legal right to dictate the drinking age to the states. So they basically threaten and bribe them to get what they want.

The federal power is laid out by the Constitution and the Constitution alone, and the federal government did blackmail states using highway funds, however, had the states stood together, and said, "Hell, if Oklahoma wants to have a drinking age of 16, that's within their state purview". And then all of them inform the federal government that they will all withhold sending the federal government the fuel tax money, which the federal government uses as the federal highway funds... at about $.60 on the dollar.

It was this very system that would be used under the 10th amendment resolution to force the federal government to fall back into it's constitutional parameters. If 38 of the states says no to the federal government under the 10th amendment, and then threatens to withhold state tax money until the federal government falls within its constitutional guidelines... there is no amount of federal power that can stop it. Not the courts, not the executive, and Congress has to go along with their state.

JTCoyoté

"A patriot must always be ready to defend his country
against his government."
~Edward Abbey

[ES]

Shucks Mr. Coyote we was just havin some fun thats all. 

[JTCoyoté]

So JTCoyoté, what I get out of this (and please note that I am a Canadian, not an American) is that there is and has been hostility between the States and the Feds for some time, regarding the role of the federal governent's assumption of power? Is the federal government, under the Constitution, not less powerful than are the individual states? Isn't that the whole idea behind the Union, that it's no more than a collection of States with a common interest? And that the federal government has only some defined powers?

Yes, especially in the western states. We are the resource pool so to speak for the rest of the nation. The hostility was at its hottest point in the mid-90s. But you never heard about our effort in the news, not a word... you only saw the tantrum like flailings of the federal government as they killed two innocent people in the siege at Ruby Ridge, 85 in Waco Texas 17 which were children... and 170 in Oklahoma City many of which were children, one still in his mother's womb... this was all to demonize the growing power and influence of the 10th Amendment patriot movement.

The federal government's specific powers are itemized in articles 1 and article 2 of the Constitution... this deals with the Congress, the Executive, and the Courts, in that order... the Bill of Rights is a list of prohibitions, absolute guidelines that the federal government cannot transgress.

The 10th amendment resolution is a reaffirmation, a renewed constitutional compact between states, that recognizes the sovereignty of each state, no matter how diverse, and recognizes that the federal law as prescribed by the Constitution, in keeping with the Constitution, also has jurisdiction as prescribed by the Constitution in the state and cannot be expanded by statute without an arduously fought amendment... all other laws and all other jurisdiction is held by the state alone... in other words, the majority jurisdiction is held by the state.

With each state communicating using the 10th amendment, States can work out all differences between them, that are within the states purview, and are not a matter of federal law.

The federal government as a prime power which it has become by fiat and statute, doesn't want to see this kind of thing, and will do anything to derail it... blow up buildings, and the like, they even sent in the secessionists to muddy the movement. The stories I could tell you that took place on and around the House and Senate floor in Colorado in 1994/95 would curl your hair... I have no love for secessionists and the sentiments they garner.

JTCoyoté

"A patriot must always be ready to defend his country
against his government."
~Edward Abbey

[JTCoyoté]

I’d like to see California follow.

California is one of the leaders... they introduced the 10th amendment resolution seven days before Colorado passed it on April 21, 1994... California is one of the states where it was passed in both houses of the Legislature...

But unless the people in California become republic members, and demand by responsible vote, or by e-mail, letter, fax, and phone calls, that the legislators there utilize this power... it means nothing.

Any law no matter how marvelous, is useless... unless the media does their part, unless the people do their part, in forcing its use by their representatives, it means little otherwise.

Here is California's 10th amendment resolution...

http://www.uhuh.com/laws/cal10res.htm

--Oldyoti

"One of the main purposes for the control and power of the
Establishment media is to keep the masses deceived and
ignorant about their rights and oppressions of their rights."
~Charles Weisman

[Freeski]

Yes, especially in the western states. We are the resource pool so to speak for the rest of the nation. The hostility was at its hottest point in the mid-90s. But you never heard about our effort in the news, not a word... you only saw the tantrum like flailings of the federal government as they killed two innocent people in the siege at Ruby Ridge, 85 in Waco Texas 17 which were children... and 170 in Oklahoma City many of which were children, one still in his mother's womb... this was all to demonize the growing power and influence of the 10th Amendment patriot movement.

The federal government's specific powers are itemized in articles 1 and article 2 of the Constitution... this deals with the Congress, the Executive, and the Courts, in that order... the Bill of Rights is a list of prohibitions, absolute guidelines that the federal government cannot transgress.

The 10th amendment resolution is a reaffirmation, a renewed constitutional compact between states, that recognizes the sovereignty of each state, no matter how diverse, and recognizes that the federal law as prescribed by the Constitution, in keeping with the Constitution, also has jurisdiction as prescribed by the Constitution in the state and cannot be expanded by statute without an arduously fought amendment... all other laws and all other jurisdiction is held by the state alone... in other words, the majority jurisdiction is held by the state.

With each state communicating using the 10th amendment, States can work out all differences between them, that are within the states purview, and are not a matter of federal law.

The federal government as a prime power which it has become by fiat and statute, doesn't want to see this kind of thing, and will do anything to derail it... blow up buildings, and the like, they even sent in the secessionists to muddy the movement. The stories I could tell you that took place on and around the House and Senate floor in Colorado in 1994/95 would curl your hair... I have no love for secessionists and the sentiments they garner.

JTCoyoté

"A patriot must always be ready to defend his country
against his government."
~Edward Abbey

Such an interesting topic, thanks. Can you give me a hint about what to look for re the Colorada Senate in 1994?

[lazarus]

Someone informed should make a mini youtube documentary on this, especially documenting how Ruby Ridge, Waco, and Oklahoma were concerted efforts by the Fed to thwart a legitimate and legal movement.

[JTCoyoté]

Such an interesting topic, thanks. Can you give me a hint about what to look for re the Colorada Senate in 1994?

There is a large link in my signature block to a thread here in which I have been compiling 10th Amendment movement related "stuff" I found on the web...

I was there at the inception, working in the Colorado state house, along side Charles Duke, coordinating things with the CDR fax network, the Committee of Correspondence, and the 10th Amendment Committee, to get the word out... give the link below a read...

JTCoyoté

"We are not weak if we make a proper use of
those means which the God of Nature has placed
in our power.. the battle, sir, is not to the strong
alone, it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave."
~Patrick Henry

[Freeski]

JTCoyote, I gave your other thread a read and I have a few questions, if you don't mind helping me understand:

THE LAW IS CLEAR, THE FEDS ARE IN BREACH OF CONTRACT
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=4199.0

First off, kudos for you for sticking to your guns all this time and I agree that your country's founding documents "were divinely inspired". Some argue they are not perfect, but my God, they are as good as anything I've ever seen with respect to the relationship between people and governments (or States and the federal government in this case).

Your thread title is what baffles me most: yes, they have assumed powers not specifically outlined in the 10th so why is that not enough? Why is a Resolution needed at all? If the Consitution and Bill of Rights is the Law of the Land, and the feds have broken or ignored it - and continue to do so - why is that not enough to get them to stop doing so, via the courts? Is it because the courts are corrupt? If so, how can a Resolution work?

My understand of the purpose of your work on the Resolution, and those of Oklahoma and the other States, is to reaffirm the powers and non-powers under the 10th, but also to put them on official Notice for added legal clout. But again, why is that neccessary? If you murder my wife, which is against the Law, that's all that's needed to have you charged. There's no need to "put you on notice" that if you do it again, then I'll get mad.

Secondly, why focus on the 10th when most of the Constitution and Bill of Rights is systematically perverted or outright ignored?

Next, you've stated here, I believe, that you have no time for secessionists. Is this because you think this mangled and corrupted United States can indeed be repaired and that fighting for that is the way to go, as opposed to giving up? I mention this because sometimes something is so hopelessly broken that the only path is to wipe the slate clean and build again from scratch. Maybe some within the secessionist movement feel that way, and maybe they're right, who knows? All I know is that I haven't found the answer up here in Canada.

Finally, I wonder how you/we or any of us can ever hope to get that ground-swell of support when the people, en masse, no longer seem to care - nor understand - the principles your country was founded upon (or liberty for that matter). You said it yourself that the media plays a big part in this (and most of us here on PP know that), so without first exposing the corrupt mainstream media (and public school system), and re-educating the people, how can we ever get this ground-swell support?

I hope this doesn't come across as being too negative, because that is not my intent.

[JTCoyoté]

JTCoyote, I gave your other thread a read and I have a few questions, if you don't mind helping me understand:

THE LAW IS CLEAR, THE FEDS ARE IN BREACH OF CONTRACT
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=4199.0

First off, kudos for you for sticking to your guns all this time and I agree that your country's founding documents "were divinely inspired". Some argue they are not perfect, but my God, they are as good as anything I've ever seen with respect to the relationship between people and governments (or States and the federal government in this case).

Your thread title is what baffles me most: yes, they have assumed powers not specifically outlined in the 10th so why is that not enough? Why is a Resolution needed at all? If the Consitution and Bill of Rights is the Law of the Land, and the feds have broken or ignored it - and continue to do so - why is that not enough to get them to stop doing so, via the courts? Is it because the courts are corrupt? If so, how can a Resolution work?

My understand of the purpose of your work on the Resolution, and those of Oklahoma and the other States, is to reaffirm the powers and non-powers under the 10th, but also to put them on official Notice for added legal clout. But again, why is that neccessary? If you murder my wife, which is against the Law, that's all that's needed to have you charged. There's no need to "put you on notice" that if you do it again, then I'll get mad.

Secondly, why focus on the 10th when most of the Constitution and Bill of Rights is systematically perverted or outright ignored?

Next, you've stated here, I believe, that you have no time for secessionists. Is this because you think this mangled and corrupted United States can indeed be repaired and that fighting for that is the way to go, as opposed to giving up? I mention this because sometimes something is so hopelessly broken that the only path is to wipe the slate clean and build again from scratch. Maybe some within the secessionist movement feel that way, and maybe they're right, who knows? All I know is that I haven't found the answer up here in Canada.

Finally, I wonder how you/we or any of us can ever hope to get that ground-swell of support when the people, en masse, no longer seem to care - nor understand - the principles your country was founded upon (or liberty for that matter). You said it yourself that the media plays a big part in this (and most of us here on PP know that), so without first exposing the corrupt mainstream media (and public school system), and re-educating the people, how can we ever get this ground-swell support?

I hope this doesn't come across as being too negative, because that is not my intent.

To a degree, everyone is distracted. Even on these pages, which generally serve to awaken, we are still led astray by self-serving ideas, selfish ideas... garnered through a lack of understanding of common ground, not seeing our connectedness, which is always the undoing of movements.  We foolishly dismiss the growing legislative warning signs and pass them off saying, "well that's just the way it's done these days."  We ignore them as long as we feel no pain.  So consequently, slowly over the decades, the last three generations, we have tended to leave "self-government" more and more to the "experts", forgetting the very essence of what self-government means. Like William Shakespeare said;
"The common curse of mankind is folly and ignorance."

My point is that most people nowadays are content only to complain, yet are too lazy, or afraid to educate themselves and then take action.  They would rather bandy about joining some secessionist group, which will get media attention, because it is under control of the order, it is easy to understand it's precepts we will just break away from the bastards, thus it easy to follow, no representatives to call or write any more... yet the outcome of such action is historically predictable, and not pretty.

The Constitution and Bill of Rights, as a governing instrument, is no more broken than a new car that has been staked and chained to the pavement by 1000 shackle like statutes.  The problem isn't with the Constitution, but with the multitude of identifiable, borderline lawful, (until they are dovetailed together), destructive statutes, and court opinions, that have over the long sleep lashed Gulliver to the deck.  As Montesquieu so simply yet eloquently put it;
"Useless laws weaken the necessary laws."

The 10th amendment sovereignty resolution movement, when it began in late 1993, had a twofold purpose.  First, it was to educate.  Before it was ever passed, it was bandied about on local talk radio, picked up by fax networks and spread around the country where it was picked up by local talk radio stations from California to Maine, and from Michigan to Louisiana.  It was a very simple concept, one that required no real work other than communicating with other states who are experiencing the same federal oppression, a constitutional wake-up call. It was nothing more than getting all of your ducks, (states) in a row.

Secondly, the fact that the law already exists, it would be easy to quickly implement to our advantage since time is of the essence.  Knowing that the controlled media would never allow the idea across their blotter, however, was to our disadvantage.  But, with the huge number of phone/fax networks, the fledgling alternative media, which was our response, and our way around the controlled media, it worked.  An aside, if we had had the Internet at that time, we very well may have won this battle before Clinton left office.  Be that as it may, with telephones and fax machines buzzing away, we had brought awareness of our common plight, and the lawful way to combat it to light, within 46 of the 50 states... and at least 26 of them passed the resolution in at least one of the houses of their legislature.  The manner of enforcement is simple, but requires 3/4 of the states to independently, participate.

Try to keep in mind, if something legislative or governmentally actuated makes it into the mainstream news, it is already spun, or reported dismissively, in a word, it is controlled.  If something is touted and cheered by the media, then it is heavily paid for and is not news at all, but a "NEWS-O-MERCIAL!  If you hear about it in the alternative media yet never hear it on the mainstream media, then you can bank that it is what is actually happening, and because it cannot be controlled once it is out, the MSM will not even mentioned it, or if pressed, will dismiss it as untrue, rumor, silly, or "conspiracy theory".

There is no history here in America of a unity of the people and the states rallying around the Constitution to force its adherence by the federal government.  The outcome of such a movement is quite certain however, the rats would have to leave the ship even though it's not sinking.  Or, they would be forced to provocateur one or more events they could successfully blame on the people... this cannot be done if a majority of the people understand the movement, its lawful nature, and it's nonviolent intent. The roaches would quickly scramble to get away from that light.

The same lawful truth cannot be said for the secessionists.  They claim that the right to break away is a 9th or 10th amendment right.  Yet in all states except for one, there is no such provision for separation within the state constitutional agreement, the agreement that binds the state to the United States of America Constitutional contract.  So by breaking the contract, you loose all right under the contract, and therefore can lawfully claim no right under the contract.  The break is complete and the state is without protection as a result. I can guarantee you, the New World Order can't wait for the first state to do this.  It will be all the excuse they will need to implement martial law... this isn't a prediction, it has already been demonstrated... the precedent for such action led to the War Between the States.

JTCoyoté

"The more corrupt the state,
the more it legislates." 
~Cornelius Tacitus
(56 –117 AD)

[Freeski]

So, JTCoyote, as I read you - you just genuinely treasure the "idea" of the United Sates of America so much that you will die trying to save it. I and many others are with you in this, forever. To you, as I read you, it was as perfect as anyone could expect or hope for when first established by your Founding Fathers. Who in their right mind could disagree with that, so long as they understood the truth? Not I, as a Canadian who has always looked to YOUR Constitution, Bill of Rights and "idea of liberty" as my own personal beacon of hope.

Perhaps your efforts with the Resolutions and Notices haven't, themself, haven't led to victory (yet) - but they clearly DID awaken many eyes and minds, AND here we are, today, still talking about them.

We WILL regain that beautiful freedom once again!

[lazarus]

It sounds like this movement, of the 10th amendment, should be the centerpiece of the US resistance to the NWO. A centerpiece of any movement should be shared by all members, so that if certain leaders of the movement drop out for what ever reason, the movement still continues on. Please bear with me with the following analogies. Fractal geometry is a process where a rough or fragmented geometric shape that can be split into parts, with each part a reduced-size copy of the whole.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractal

This means that there should be a uniting theme in a movement, so that each subgroup of members and even each member can operate semi-autonomously, even without external leadership. Sounds like hot air? Then try this example: During the second Israeli invasion of Lebanon, Hizbulla was able to defeat a much superior army because their organization was structured so that if leaders were killed or lines of communication between members were cut off, their operations continued seamlessly, because cutoff groups continued their operations with closer circles and new leaders were automatically generated, just like the branching point of a fractal. Please note that I not advocating a military operation here; this could simply be an infowar. It is why Alex keeps telling people to look in the mirror instead of suggesting things for him or other "leaders" to do.

Note that this is the opposite organizational scheme of the "NWO" which is top-down, in the shape of a pyramid, and those on the top depend on deceit and eventually tyranny to keep those lower down holding them up. It is much more of a house of cards. Which is why they will eventually loose.

But I have been searching in my mind and these forums for a theme that could unite the struggle. We bicker so much on these forums, it is so hard to come up with something uniting, the shape that is a reduced copy of the whole. Ron Paul's message of freedom worked well, but the 10th amendment movement may be a more concrete way to go.

[xfahctor]

I for one would like to thank Coyoti for bringing this up. It was he that I learned about this from after asking his advice on some other legislation I was working on.  this is something that not only clears the way for that, but goes even further and, if passed and adhered to, imunizes one's state against any funny business. SO I'm now scrambling like mad to get this under way in New Hampshire. I have the 2nd coos county distrct represenatives and the 1st coos county senate covered, so if anyone else in New Hampshire would like to help, start hounding reps in your distrcit about it.

[Freeski]

It sounds like this movement, of the 10th amendment, should be the centerpiece of the US resistance to the NWO. A centerpiece of any movement should be shared by all members, so that if certain leaders of the movement drop out for what ever reason, the movement still continues on. Please bear with me with the following analogies. Fractal geometry is a process where a rough or fragmented geometric shape that can be split into parts, with each part a reduced-size copy of the whole.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractal

This means that there should be a uniting theme in a movement, so that each subgroup of members and even each member can operate semi-autonomously, even without external leadership. Sounds like hot air? Then try this example: During the second Israeli invasion of Lebanon, Hizbulla was able to defeat a much superior army because their organization was structured so that if leaders were killed or lines of communication between members were cut off, their operations continued seamlessly, because cutoff groups continued their operations with closer circles and new leaders were automatically generated, just like the branching point of a fractal. Please note that I not advocating a military operation here; this could simply be an infowar. It is why Alex keeps telling people to look in the mirror instead of suggesting things for him or other "leaders" to do.

Note that this is the opposite organizational scheme of the "NWO" which is top-down, in the shape of a pyramid, and those on the top depend on deceit and eventually tyranny to keep those lower down holding them up. It is much more of a house of cards. Which is why they will eventually loose.

But I have been searching in my mind and these forums for a theme that could unite the struggle. We bicker so much on these forums, it is so hard to come up with something uniting, the shape that is a reduced copy of the whole. Ron Paul's message of freedom worked well, but the 10th amendment movement may be a more concrete way to go.

I agree that "top down" is destined to fail because it is an open door to corruption and manipulation - so the only hope we have is to educate people about the fundamentals of liberty and justice, and that "the state" can't NOT be corrupt and unfair - inherently- so all we can do is inspire others about the virtues and possibilities of the "live and let let" philosophy and then let nature take its course. I for one, in respect for Ron Paul, believe that freedom can actually work.

[Freeski]

I for one would like to thank Coyoti for bringing this up. It was he that I learned about this from after asking his advice on some other legislation I was working on.  this is something that not only clears the way for that, but goes even further and, if passed and adhered to, imunizes one's state against any funny business. SO I'm now scrambling like mad to get this under way in New Hampshire. I have the 2nd coos county distrct represenatives and the 1st coos county senate covered, so if anyone else in New Hampshire would like to help, start hounding reps in your distrcit about it.

But again I ask: why do you need a Resolution to reaffirm what is already stated as the law of the land? Corrupt courts cannot be an excuse, but if they are, then there is no other choice but violent revolution. "The tree of liberty must be shaken with the blood of tyrants and patriots" (when all else fails to reclaim justice and liberty)

[JTCoyoté]

But again I ask: why do you need a Resolution to reaffirm what is already stated as the law of the land? Corrupt courts cannot be an excuse, but if they are, then there is no other choice but violent revolution. "The tree of liberty must be shaken with the blood of tyrants and patriots" (when all else fails to reclaim justice and liberty)

I told you in my last post... the 10th Amendment Resolution is a flag, a signal, to RAISE awareness... as must be done every generation or so, lest we of necessity are forced to nourish the Tree of Liberty with literal blood, rather than the blood of legislative metaphor to a just and peaceful end, as this present method affords!

--Oldyoti

"What spectacle can be more edifying or more seasonable,
than that of Liberty and Learning, each leaning on the other
for their mutual and surest support?"
~James Madison

[JTCoyoté]

It sounds like this movement, of the 10th amendment, should be the centerpiece of the US resistance to the NWO. A centerpiece of any movement should be shared by all members, so that if certain leaders of the movement drop out for what ever reason, the movement still continues on. Please bear with me with the following analogies. Fractal geometry is a process where a rough or fragmented geometric shape that can be split into parts, with each part a reduced-size copy of the whole.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractal

This means that there should be a uniting theme in a movement, so that each subgroup of members and even each member can operate semi-autonomously, even without external leadership. Sounds like hot air? Then try this example: During the second Israeli invasion of Lebanon, Hizbulla was able to defeat a much superior army because their organization was structured so that if leaders were killed or lines of communication between members were cut off, their operations continued seamlessly, because cutoff groups continued their operations with closer circles and new leaders were automatically generated, just like the branching point of a fractal. Please note that I not advocating a military operation here; this could simply be an infowar. It is why Alex keeps telling people to look in the mirror instead of suggesting things for him or other "leaders" to do.

Note that this is the opposite organizational scheme of the "NWO" which is top-down, in the shape of a pyramid, and those on the top depend on deceit and eventually tyranny to keep those lower down holding them up. It is much more of a house of cards. Which is why they will eventually loose.

But I have been searching in my mind and these forums for a theme that could unite the struggle. We bicker so much on these forums, it is so hard to come up with something uniting, the shape that is a reduced copy of the whole. Ron Paul's message of freedom worked well, but the 10th amendment movement may be a more concrete way to go.

In early 1995, at Rep. Charles Duke's office in the State Capital in Denver, I received a phone call from a name that I recognized, a guy I voted for president in '88... it was from Dr. Ron Paul. He was very curious as to how we were approaching this 10th amendment resolution, his concern was whether or not the means of enforcement was secession or not. I reassured him that it was our intent to sanction the federal agent, not run away from them.

We talked for probably a half an hour on that occasion, and talked several times after that... which was when he told me that he was toying with the idea of running again for his old House seat in 1996, and the idea of a Lawful 10th amendment movement... a grass roots effort, excited the heck out of him.

I can tell you from firsthand experience, that Ron Paul is a definite 10th amendment man, and would reinstate it in full force, as well as re-institute traditional Constitutional federalism to the country as was originally designed by the founding fathers...

Be careful when you search the 10th amendment on the Internet, there are many shill and provocateur sites, that are using the 10th as the power behind secession, the power behind violence, and the power behind separation... you can take it from me, the movement to exercise the 10th amendment we have going, is from the grassroots up, as I have described, it is non violent, it is non separatist, and it is LAWFUL, and it will work!

The first three words, and the last three words of the Constitution and Bill of Rights, tell the entire tale first to last. They are found at the beginning of the Preamble, and at the end of the Tenth Amendment.  Here they are... "We The People, [...] to the People."

--Oldyoti

"What spectacle can be more edifying or more seasonable,
than that of Liberty and Learning, each leaning on the other
for their mutual and surest support?"
~James Madison

[XeNoHighspeed]

It all for show, Stratigically, it would never work. Look what happened to Quabec.
OK. would be Fed. taxed on everything and would be bankrupt. It's a great way tp get the fed attention, but thats all it is.

[JTCoyoté]

It all for show, Stratigically, it would never work. Look what happened to Quabec.
OK. would be Fed. taxed on everything and would be bankrupt. It's a great way tp get the fed attention, but thats all it is.

Strategic planning must not be your strong suit, or you didn't read the thread... we're not talking about one lone province here, we're talking about 38 states, their people and their infrastructure rallied around the 10th Amendment.  We are NOT talking secession, we are talking unification around the Constitution to throw the traitorous globalist bums out.  Have you ever been outnumbered and surrounded soldier...

Read the thread.

--Oldyoti

"What is government itself, but the greatest
of all reflections on human nature?"
~James Madison

[Freeski]

I told you in my last post... the 10th Amendment Resolution is a flag, a signal, to RAISE awareness... as must be done every generation or so, lest we of necessity are forced to nourish the Tree of Liberty with literal blood, rather than the blood of legislative metaphor to a just and peaceful end, as this present method affords!

--Oldyoti

"What spectacle can be more edifying or more seasonable,
than that of Liberty and Learning, each leaning on the other
for their mutual and surest support?"
~James Madison

I hear you loud and clear - but I still don't get why they get away with breaking (disregarding) the Law of The Land in the first place. Cowards, phonies and traitors in the various areas the establishment I guess.

[JTCoyoté]

 The 10th amendment resolution is necessary, because the education system, and the mainstream media, both emanate from the camp of the enemy.

Over the decades, people have been conditioned by omission to allow government to grow beyond it's lawful power... Most people under the age of 50, have no idea as to the true history of the United States, of its being born out of an enormous mistrust of government, and hatred of private banks.  The NWO media and education system won't teach that... now, they teach that you should love your government, and idolize its leaders. Even though they have reached around you with both hands so to speak, removing your wallet with one hand, and sterilizing and lobotomizing you with the other.

The view of government as good, was challenged back in the mid-90s from state legislatures through the vision of good men, like Charles Ray Duke of Colorado, Senator Don Rogers of California, and Charles Key of Oklahoma.  And there were many more, who saw the skillful usurpation and slow takeover of state and individual rights and power, by the Federal agency.  So they sounded the alarm from the state capitals, via the fledgling alternative news media...

Most people don't even know they have REAL rights, and have no idea that there is a 10th Amendment, let alone what it says.  As a result of the media and education systems, they see themselves only as leaves in the governmental wind.

Most folks under 50 were taught climate change, deforestation, air pollution, water pollution, art, sports, business management, and that there are too many people.  They were also taught that the government has the answer. They were never taught that by the protections of the Constitution this was always under their complete control in the first place, and out of the purview of governments, as is laid out in the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

We can't let the truth get out there now can we... Did the government tell you about this?  The MSM maybe??  No, it was the alternative media... The states and the people, that have passed the 10thRES, have individually reaffirmed, together, their Constitutional and statutory power, and will use it.  BTW, the destructive and divisive idea of secession, ain't in it.

--Oldyoti

"A democracy is nothing more than mob rule,
where fifty-one percent of the people may
 take away the rights of the other forty-nine.
" ~Thomas Jefferson

[Freeski]

The 10th amendment resolution is necessary, because the education system, and the mainstream media, both emanate from the camp of the enemy.

Over the decades, people have been conditioned by ommission to allow government to grow beyond it's lawful power... Most people under the age of 50, have no idea as to the true history of the United States, of its being born out of an enormous mistrust of government, and hatred of private banks.  The NWO media and education system won't teach that... now, they teach that you should love your government, and idolize its leaders. Even though they have reached around you with both hands so to speak, removing your wallet with one hand, and sterilizing and lobotomizing you with the other.

The view of government as good, was challenged back in the mid-90s from state legislatures through the vision of good men, like Charles Ray Duke of Colorado, Senator Don Rogers of California, and Charles Key of Oklahoma. And there were many more. Who saw the skillful usurpation and slow takeover of state and individual rights and power by the Federal agency. So they sounded the alarm from the state capitals, via the fledgling alternative news media...

Most people don't even know they have REAL rights, and have no idea that there is a 10th Amendment, let alone what it says. As a result of the media and education systems, they see themselves only as leaves in the governmental wind.

Most folks under 50 were taught climate change, deforestation, air pollution, water pollution, art, sports, and business management, and that there are too many people, They were also taught that the government has the answer. They were never taught that by the protections of the Constitution, this was all under their complete control in the first place, and out of the purview of governments, as is laid out in the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

We can't let the truth get out there now can we... Did the government tell you about this...The MSM maybe?? No it was the alternative media... The states and the people, that have passed the 10thRES, have reaffirmed together their Constitutional and statutory power to use it... BTW, the destructive and divisive idea of secession ain't in it...

--Oldyoti

"A democracy is nothing more than mob rule,
where fifty-one percent of the people may
 take away the rights of the other forty-nine.
" ~Thomas Jefferson

So true - and inspiringly-said in a morbid sort of way! And it goes even further whereby most actually think that it's the government's job to deal with almost everything.

God help us all.