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Re: WTF? Ubuntu caving in to NSA's SELInux?!
« Reply #80 on: September 04, 2008, 01:41:49 pm »
So basically, SE Linux has no known backdoors yet. How about Debian, does that have SELinux libraries installed by default?

I believe any Linux distro which uses version 2.6.x of the Linux kernel has the SELinux libraries pre-installed and basically kardwired to the kernel. So if your version of Debian uses the 2.6.x kernel, then the short answer is "yes".

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How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #81 on: April 24, 2009, 07:08:28 pm »
http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/5/5263/1.html


How NSA access was built into Windows

Duncan Campbell 04.09.1999


Careless mistake reveals subversion of Windows by NSA.


A CARELESS mistake by Microsoft programmers has revealed that special access codes prepared by the US National Security Agency have been secretly built into Windows. The NSA access system is built into every version of the Windows operating system now in use, except early releases of Windows 95 (and its predecessors). The discovery comes close on the heels of the revelations earlier this year that another US software giant, Lotus, had built an NSA "help information" trapdoor into its Notes system, and that security functions on other software systems had been deliberately crippled.

The first discovery of the new NSA access system was made two years ago by British researcher Dr Nicko van Someren. But it was only a few weeks ago when a second researcher rediscovered the access system. With it, he found the evidence linking it to NSA.

Computer security specialists have been aware for two years that unusual features are contained inside a standard Windows software "driver" used for security and encryption functions. The driver, called ADVAPI.DLL, enables and controls a range of security functions. If you use Windows, you will find it in the C:\Windows\system directory of your computer.

ADVAPI.DLL works closely with Microsoft Internet Explorer, but will only run cryptographic functions that the US governments allows Microsoft to export. That information is bad enough news, from a European point of view. Now, it turns out that ADVAPI will run special programmes inserted and controlled by NSA. As yet, no-one knows what these programmes are, or what they do.

Dr Nicko van Someren reported at last year's Crypto 98 conference that he had disassembled the ADVADPI driver. He found it contained two different keys. One was used by Microsoft to control the cryptographic functions enabled in Windows, in compliance with US export regulations. But the reason for building in a second key, or who owned it, remained a mystery.

A second key

Two weeks ago, a US security company came up with conclusive evidence that the second key belongs to NSA. Like Dr van Someren, Andrew Fernandez, chief scientist with Cryptonym of Morrisville, North Carolina, had been probing the presence and significance of the two keys. Then he checked the latest Service Pack release for Windows NT4, Service Pack 5. He found that Microsoft's developers had failed to remove or "strip" the debugging symbols used to test this software before they released it. Inside the code were the labels for the two keys. One was called "KEY". The other was called "NSAKEY".

Fernandes reported his re-discovery of the two CAPI keys, and their secret meaning, to "Advances in Cryptology, Crypto'99" conference held in Santa Barbara. According to those present at the conference, Windows developers attending the conference did not deny that the "NSA" key was built into their software. But they refused to talk about what the key did, or why it had been put there without users' knowledge.

A third key?!

But according to two witnesses attending the conference, even Microsoft's top crypto programmers were astonished to learn that the version of ADVAPI.DLL shipping with Windows 2000 contains not two, but three keys. Brian LaMachia, head of CAPI development at Microsoft was "stunned" to learn of these discoveries, by outsiders. The latest discovery by Dr van Someren is based on advanced search methods which test and report on the "entropy" of programming code.

Within the Microsoft organisation, access to Windows source code is said to be highly compartmentalized, making it easy for modifications to be inserted without the knowledge of even the respective product managers.

Researchers are divided about whether the NSA key could be intended to let US government users of Windows run classified cryptosystems on their machines or whether it is intended to open up anyone's and everyone's Windows computer to intelligence gathering techniques deployed by NSA's burgeoning corps of "information warriors".

According to Fernandez of Cryptonym, the result of having the secret key inside your Windows operating system "is that it is tremendously easier for the NSA to load unauthorized security services on all copies of Microsoft Windows, and once these security services are loaded, they can effectively compromise your entire operating system". The NSA key is contained inside all versions of Windows from Windows 95 OSR2 onwards.

"For non-American IT managers relying on Windows NT to operate highly secure data centres, this find is worrying", he added. "The US government is currently making it as difficult as possible for "strong" crypto to be used outside of the US. That they have also installed a cryptographic back-door in the world's most abundant operating system should send a strong message to foreign IT managers".

"How is an IT manager to feel when they learn that in every copy of Windows sold, Microsoft has a 'back door' for NSA - making it orders of magnitude easier for the US government to access your computer?" he asked.

Can the loophole be turned round against the snoopers?

Dr van Someren feels that the primary purpose of the NSA key inside Windows may be for legitimate US government use. But he says that there cannot be a legitimate explanation for the third key in Windows 2000 CAPI. "It looks more fishy", he said.

Fernandez believes that NSA's built-in loophole can be turned round against the snoopers. The NSA key inside CAPI can be replaced by your own key, and used to sign cryptographic security modules from overseas or unauthorised third parties, unapproved by Microsoft or the NSA. This is exactly what the US government has been trying to prevent. A demonstration "how to do it" program that replaces the NSA key can be found on Cryptonym's website.

According to one leading US cryptographer, the IT world should be thankful that the subversion of Windows by NSA has come to light before the arrival of CPUs that handles encrypted instruction sets. These would make the type of discoveries made this month impossible. "Had the next-generation CPU's with encrypted instruction sets already been deployed, we would have never found out about NSAKEY."

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #82 on: April 24, 2009, 07:32:56 pm »
Any idea where to download replaced file?
Cryptonym website http://www.cryptonym.com/ is useless with that.

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #83 on: April 24, 2009, 08:03:06 pm »
I don't know about that. This is one of the reasons that made me completely switch to GNU/Linux. I advise you to do the same. It's not a hard thing to do anymore and most of the distributions are free of charge. And it's not just the privacy issue. You can control your computer much more with GNU/Linux and do things Windows doesn't allow you to. The new version of the most user-friendly distribution has just come out and you can try the live CD before you decide if you want to install it or not.

http://www.ubuntu.com/

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #84 on: April 24, 2009, 08:16:40 pm »
But still about the original subject, for all of you to know how we are, at the moment, in terms of electronic privacy:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/012005_ptech_pt1.shtml
http://www.prisonplanet.com/barack-obamas-black-widow-the-super-spy-computer.html
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=82985.0
http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/security/soa/Tracking-PCs-anywhere-on-the-Net/0,130061744,139183346,00.htm



"'Elbit' flash memory chips, allegedly designed at Kir Yat-Gat south of Tel Aviv. The unique feature of the Elbit chips was that they worked on ambient electricity in a computer. In other words, they worked when the computer was turned off. When combined with another newly developed chip, the "Petrie," which was capable of storing up to six months worth of key strokes, it was now possible to burst transmit all of a computer's activity in the middle of the night to a nearby receiver - say in a passing truck or even a low flying SIGINT (Signals Intelligence) satellite."
--- http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/pandora/052401_promis.html



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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #85 on: April 24, 2009, 08:23:58 pm »
Keep Big Brother out of your computer.

Install "Terrorism OS".

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7707585592627775409



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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #86 on: April 25, 2009, 05:53:09 pm »
And still, concerning computer privacy, beware that the video displayed on your computer screen can be reproduced from afar:

http://cryptome.info/0001/tempest-fret.htm

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #87 on: April 25, 2009, 06:15:22 pm »
After hearing about the recent worm and how the government was total control of cyber security i have decided to switch to linux permanently. Ubuntu is really nice for the the beginner, once you get a grip of linux you can then start trying out the other flavor of linux or given move to freebsd. I have always wondered thought if using linux you would be more secure of a security breach, how do you know if a distribution of linux is "dirty" just like those traders at Microsoft.

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #88 on: April 26, 2009, 11:51:32 am »
Well, good for you. Glad to hear that.
That's something I didn't even mention because it has been out of my mind for a long time now. I don't worry about viruses or worms anymore. You have to be very irresponsible to catch one in GNU/Linux. As long as you're careful to only install software from your distribution's repositories or other sources you consider to be trust-worthy, you should not have any problem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=linux+virus

"To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it."
--- SecurityFocus columnist Scott Granneman

And concerning how trust-worthy a distribution is:
In the free software world, also known as "open source", the so-called source code of a program is available for people to check it. That is, the instructions that make up a program are available in both the original format written in a specific programing language, that can be read by someone who knows how to program in that language, and in it's compiled format, after that same program as been translated by a so-called compiler program into a binary language the computer can read and execute.
That is, unlike in the Windows OS, that is only sold in compiled format, you can see what the computer is being ordered to do, and check if he's being told to harm, in any way, your computer or not. If you know how to program in that specific language, that is. But for the normal person, like me, that has a limited knowledge of programing and uses a widely-used distribution, I just count on the fact that, if an open source program had some kind of bad instructions, with the amount of hackers using, changing, and checking it's source code (GNU/Linux is dream playground for any hacker), someone would spot the bad instructions and warn everybody.
You can never be 100% secure in computer-related security, but you can have a pretty good amount of trust in your computer if you choose wisely what to install in it.

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #89 on: April 26, 2009, 12:06:26 pm »
the original article was 10 years old, how it still pertains and is relevant ? And btw i dispute your linux quote, I much disagree all you have to do is work on linux for it to screw up. I used linux (and only linux) for 3 years and eventually just had to quit because it was all wrong. Once they decide on ONE sound system that works good, ONE desktop environment that works good, and GET RID of the ancient obsolete Xorg window system Ill go back to linux again.

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #90 on: April 26, 2009, 12:19:40 pm »
This is why I don't trust anything that isn't open source. (Although I use MS products, I don't trust them!!! I don't do online purchases on a Windows machine, for instance.) With open source thousands of people can inspect the code and locate any little tricks embedded in the software. Also open source software is more secure since the little code glitches that hackers exploit are much less abundant since such glitches are eliminated much more quickly than is the case for proprietary software.

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #91 on: April 26, 2009, 01:28:02 pm »
open source software being 'more secure' is a myth built up by your EGO

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #92 on: April 26, 2009, 01:41:01 pm »
the original article was 10 years old, how it still pertains and is relevant ?

Using elementary logic, if they were doing this 10 years ago, it's very likely, to say the least, that they are still doing it now, no?

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #93 on: April 26, 2009, 01:43:35 pm »
Sure but with what proof do you have besides a 10 year old article. Sure it's good to be vigilant but we can't be making blind assumptions based on obsolete operating systems circa 1999 which is considered ancient history by now. BeOS was 2001 even, that's old and it's newer than that article.

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #94 on: April 26, 2009, 04:47:46 pm »
After hearing about the recent worm and how the government was total control of cyber security i have decided to switch to linux permanently. Ubuntu is really nice for the the beginner, once you get a grip of linux you can then start trying out the other flavor of linux or given move to freebsd. I have always wondered thought if using linux you would be more secure of a security breach, how do you know if a distribution of linux is "dirty" just like those traders at Microsoft.

I'm considering downloading PC-BSD 7.1 Galileo Edition and installing it. I recently got broadband internet, and I couldn't get it to work on Windows (2000, XP, or Vista), so I threw Xubuntu 7.10 on here (had to change all of its repositories to point to old-releases.ubuntu.com because (X)(K)Ubuntu 7.10 reached its "end of life" cycle about a week or two ago) and internet worked flawlessly without any configuration. After I get PC-BSD burned to a DVD, I'm going to run it "live" (from the DVD) to see if the internet works on there without any configuration. I know the newest PC-BSD comes with KDE 4.2.

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #95 on: April 27, 2009, 04:42:58 am »
i want to try out pc-bsd! i tried to get it running on a usb (downloaded the pc-bsd dvd) using unetbootin, but not luck. I have a netbook so i dont have a dvd-rom drive lol which really bites and i dont feel like getting a usb dvd drive  :D

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #96 on: April 27, 2009, 05:47:36 am »
And still, concerning computer privacy, beware that the video displayed on your computer screen can be reproduced from afar:

http://cryptome.info/0001/tempest-fret.htm

this is one of the reasons govt agencies use faraday cages. blocks all waves out and keeps all waves in.

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #97 on: April 27, 2009, 12:54:59 pm »
i want to try out pc-bsd! i tried to get it running on a usb (downloaded the pc-bsd dvd) using unetbootin, but not luck. I have a netbook so i dont have a dvd-rom drive lol which really bites and i dont feel like getting a usb dvd drive  :D

What OS do you have on your netbook? From what I have read, Ubuntu with Ubuntu Netbook Remix works extremely well on netbooks.

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #98 on: April 27, 2009, 04:21:30 pm »
i want to try out pc-bsd! i tried to get it running on a usb (downloaded the pc-bsd dvd) using unetbootin, but not luck. I have a netbook so i dont have a dvd-rom drive lol which really bites and i dont feel like getting a usb dvd drive  :D

Download PC-BSD 7.1 from here (download speed is pretty fast) and try it again with UNetBootin on a 2 GB or 4 GB USB flash drive.

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #99 on: April 27, 2009, 05:09:50 pm »
I am going to give it a try and see if it works using the iso option on unetbootin. I tried puppy linux for my netbook,didnt like it much but i really like dreamlinux. The only problem with is the when i enable compiz some of the graphics glitch when i watch videos. I have heard thought that  it is because of the intel graphics chip.

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #100 on: April 28, 2009, 01:11:51 am »
I installed PC-BSD. It was so easy to install. Much easier than vanilla FreeBSD. My nVidia card was fully supported from the get-go.

However...I couldn't get connected on my broadband cable connection. No matter what I tried, no luck. (And yes, I enabled my network device.) So I'm going back to Ubuntu for now.

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #101 on: April 28, 2009, 01:25:27 am »
Regarding Ubuntu. Careful with those of you using ATI graphics cards. 9.04 doesnt work with ATI and 8.10 works but takes some tweaking. also WiFi on 8.10 takes awhile to tweak also(laptop built in wifi), also Netflix instant play doesnt work. video playback is a bit choppy. live audio play back is a bit choppy. overall imo its better then windows. but needs to have a few kinks worked out. but not bad for a free os.

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #102 on: April 28, 2009, 02:35:16 pm »
Regarding Ubuntu. Careful with those of you using ATI graphics cards. 9.04 doesnt work with ATI and 8.10 works but takes some tweaking. also WiFi on 8.10 takes awhile to tweak also(laptop built in wifi), also Netflix instant play doesnt work. video playback is a bit choppy. live audio play back is a bit choppy. overall imo its better then windows. but needs to have a few kinks worked out. but not bad for a free os.

The Netflix thing is a killer for me.  I don't have cable TV, so I watch a lot of movies and DVDs instantly on Netflix.



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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #103 on: April 28, 2009, 02:39:09 pm »
The Netflix thing is a killer for me.  I don't have cable TV, so I watch a lot of movies and DVDs instantly on Netflix.






yea its been rough. but i just watch things at Tvshack.net or send netflix to my xbox360.. but i just got a new account for work and i will have 2 24" widescreen highdef monitors and a T3 line... so i can watch my stuff at work.

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #104 on: April 29, 2009, 09:27:51 pm »

 but i just got a new account for work and i will have 2 24" widescreen highdef monitors and a T3 line... so i can watch my stuff at work.

Your employer won't mind?  Are they hiring?

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #105 on: April 30, 2009, 12:41:15 pm »
OpenBSD or Gentoo

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #106 on: April 30, 2009, 12:45:36 pm »
OpenBSD or Gentoo

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The point about Gentoo is to get a Klone of the BSD Ports.
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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #107 on: April 30, 2009, 07:07:46 pm »
Not wanting to transform this thread into a GNU/Linux help center (there are other forums for that), I'll just say, concerning previous comments:

- ATI cards, the last time I used one, about 2 years ago, were still not well supported in GNU/Linux, so I ended up buying a NVIDIA. but this is ATI's fault because they didn't/don't bother making decent drivers for GNU/Linux
- copying a CD/DVD iso image to a USB stick may not be easy, but can be done. search the Internet for a good tutorial
- GNU/Linux runs on desktops, laptops and netbooks (with wifi) with no problems. there may be exceptions for more exotic non-desktop models(?), but normally you just need to choose the best distribution for your specific model or maybe do some extra manual configuring, not automatically made during installation, to make everything work
- if you use more professional programs, that don't run on GNU/Linux, or have an application that doesn't run well (yet) on GNU/Linux, you can always leave a partition in your hard drive with Windows installed and switch to it whenever you need it, using a GNU tool called GRUB that let's you choose, when your computer boots, which OS you want to use. if you decide to do this: repartition your hard drive, install Windows first in one of the partitions, and your GNU/Linux distribution will install GRUB for you at the same time it installs the OS itself

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #108 on: April 30, 2009, 10:33:28 pm »
"this is ATI's fault because they didn't/don't bother making decent drivers for GNU/Linux"
or was it linux's fault for providing a shitty platform from which to develop device drivers.
- GNU/Linux runs on desktops, laptops and netbooks (with wifi) with no problems.
i think i just shat my pants laughing at your ignorance.
when will you freetards start reading linuxhaters.blogspot.com
http://www.novell.com/communities/node/8196/just-thinking-about-getting-linux

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #109 on: May 01, 2009, 12:04:14 am »
I'll bother answering your post vCFy7W3SFb, again, this time just to make it clear to someone who doesn't know much yet about GNU/Linux.

- NVIDIA graphic cards work well in GNU/Linux. I have one and have great 3D graphics and colors, which I didn't with an ATI ("The NVIDIA Linux unified drivers are always right on, supporting the latest, greatest features."---Mark Brown, VP Technology for Rhythm & Hues)
- I have a desktop, a notebook and a netbook, all running GNU/Linux with no problems

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #110 on: May 01, 2009, 12:23:13 am »
A good place to get to know the different distributions and try them out:

http://distrowatch.com/

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #111 on: May 01, 2009, 06:17:06 am »
This SLAX Distro is tiny, but it is very, very good particuarly for running off USB stick

http://www.slax.org/

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #112 on: May 01, 2009, 09:44:33 am »
Your employer won't mind?  Are they hiring?

 ;D

Lol nope they don't mind. so long as I don't go on any "inappropriate" sites.. I do security and they would rather have me doing something on the computer then possibly falling asleep.

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #113 on: May 01, 2009, 06:03:31 pm »
i think i just shat my pants laughing at your ignorance.
when will you freetards start reading linuxhaters.blogspot.com
http://www.novell.com/communities/node/8196/just-thinking-about-getting-linux

This is where your credibility has sunk to Zero.
i am not going to even sink to your level. all i can say is that i was right when i said in my previous post that you were a paid shill for Microsoft. the Linuxhaters blog just proves it as well as your general attitude.

all it takes is a Google search with the term "Microsoft Shills"

i already done the search. here's the link

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&num=30&newwindow=1&q=%22microsoft+shills%22&btnG=Search

Microsoft has a history of ether using their own employees or using public relation firms that hire professional paid-2-post bloggers for the purpose of shilling newsgroups & forums promoting their products & damning the competitions. most of the time, these "Astroturfers" do this anomonously through open web proxies or other illegal means. Microsoft shills were known to go as far as defamation of persons that used anything other than Microsoft.



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« Reply #114 on: May 01, 2009, 06:51:41 pm »

Microsoft has a history of ether using their own employees or using public relation firms that hire professional paid-2-post bloggers for the purpose of shilling newsgroups & forums promoting their products & damning the competitions. most of the time, these "Astroturfers" do this anomonously through open web proxies or other illegal means. Microsoft shills were known to go as far as defamation of persons that used anything other than Microsoft.




Lurk on comp.os.linux.advocacy and read posts made by DFS. DFS (DooFuS) is the biggest Microsoft shill on there.

Remember when Microsoft shills Ron Barrett and Preston Gralla - Gralla is a former Microsoft employee - shilled for Windows 7 by claiming it would "crush" and "kill" Linux?

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?%3Btopic=80390.0

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #115 on: May 01, 2009, 06:54:24 pm »
Hmmm....

I seem to recall Windows used to ship with the telnet port open by default.

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #116 on: May 01, 2009, 10:56:19 pm »
Lurk on comp.os.linux.advocacy and read posts made by DFS. DFS (DooFuS) is the biggest Microsoft shill on there.

Remember when Microsoft shills Ron Barrett and Preston Gralla - Gralla is a former Microsoft employee - shilled for Windows 7 by claiming it would "crush" and "kill" Linux?

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?%3Btopic=80390.0

yes, i lurk in c.o.l.a daily. have been for years. this is how i got good at spotting these cretins.

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #117 on: May 01, 2009, 11:19:55 pm »
dude, i'm not a freaking microsoft shill. i'm saying that i was indoctrinated into this whole microsoft hate/demonizing thing going on since i was 16, doing the whole linux lifestyle and took me about a year to awake and it's just coming to the realization the linux is a piece of dog turd, it's only good for a certain set of things.

the reality is, everything the blogger sais at linuxhaters.blogspot.com has credibility. start waking up to the reality of the situation.

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #118 on: May 02, 2009, 04:54:20 am »
dude, i'm not a freaking microsoft shill. i'm saying that i was indoctrinated into this whole microsoft hate/demonizing thing going on since i was 16, doing the whole linux lifestyle and took me about a year to awake and it's just coming to the realization the linux is a piece of dog turd, it's only good for a certain set of things.

the reality is, everything the blogger sais at linuxhaters.blogspot.com has credibility. start waking up to the reality of the situation.

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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows
« Reply #119 on: May 02, 2009, 12:57:39 pm »
dude, i'm not a freaking microsoft shill. i'm saying that i was indoctrinated into this whole microsoft hate/demonizing thing going on since i was 16, doing the whole linux lifestyle and took me about a year to awake and it's just coming to the realization the linux is a piece of dog turd, it's only good for a certain set of things.

the reality is, everything the blogger sais at linuxhaters.blogspot.com has credibility. start waking up to the reality of the situation.

Then why does Microsoft deliberately put security holes in Windows, and why do some software-based firewalls "phone home" to companies which could be fronts for foreign intelligence agencies? Or is "Microsoft deliberately putting security holes in Windows" just a "conspiracy theory"?