BILDERBERG is not evil!

[kamakazi]

Lets say that I am a sceptic and say:

"Whats the big deal about this Bilderberg group?
So what, just a bunch of rich and powerful people meeting
and talking. And they just dont want media coverage cause they don´t want to
have to think twice before saying anything!
Can you prove that they are evil and that what they discuss at their meetings
are evil and hurt us?"

Seriously, how does one link Bilderberg to world events? 
Where is the proof? I mean there are no BB documents and
the participants are sworn to secrecy right?

Enlighten me...


 

[moxiez]

OK, the richest and most powerful people in the world get together to have 3 days of what... backgammon, behind closed doors no less? Come on dude, you aren't that naive, are you? You think they're doing anything altruistic in there? 

I'm not going to do your homework for you, but you can find plenty of video speeches by Henry Kissinger that he gave at OTHER events that were identical to what he gave at Bilderberg. You should hear them... pretty frightening.

[HiQConsoul]

Hmm I'll give a tiny go at part of this.. (toc: [History of Rulers Attending Bilderberg] - [Rule of Coincidense/Non-Coincidense] - [The Rule Proves That..] - [BUT, I MIGHT BE WRONG]):



[History of Rulers Attending Bilderberg]
Bilderberg has had all Presidents and Prime Ministers attend their meeting before they were elected in their respective countries.

[Rule of Coincidense/Non-Coincidense]
There's a rule I believe that says when something happens twice, it's a coincidense, 3 times it's a pattern, and 4 times it's a program. - It might be 1, 2 and 3 and not 2, 3 and 4 .. But I feel more certain with the latter so..

[The Rule Proves That..]
The above rule proves that it's Bilderberg and not the respective countries that select/elect the leaders. This means that it is Bilderberg that's in power and not the people of the countries.

[BUT, I MIGHT BE WRONG]
I may be completely wrong somewhere or everywhere in this post tho and thus need backing up from others who can verify it (not just say - "yea ur right!" and then bug off lol, but back it up with hard facts or circumstancial evidence)

[ummagumma]

Lets say that I am a sceptic

the facts are in the open for anyone to check, if you can`t wrap your mind arround the magnitude of their evil deceivings / manipulations , >then you better do some more homework...

[la Resistance]

Download Endgame, Sven! nw0.info

[lazarus]

Enlighten me...

The MSM will grovel over anyone of these people when they open their mouthes for individual interviews or official statements. But they all meet together in a hotel and the MSM is silent?

Give me a break. Are you skeptical about 1+1=2 also?

[skeptic101]

"Whats the big deal about this Bilderberg group?
So what, just a bunch of rich and powerful people meeting
and talking.

What's not surprising is people will deny such a group and then when they cannot "deny no more" they will ask such a question.  If you have evidence they just play cards and drink bourbon and have idle chit-chat, please enlighten me.

[2Revolutions]

Please read this Memo Written by Henry Kissinger (regularly attends Bilderberg) regarding depopulation of the third world

http://www.whale.to/v/memorandum.html

Analysis on the weapons used to depopulate the earth

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2006/04/09/18141251.php

Depopulation Linked Merck Pharma Announces "Philanthropic Initiative" in Africa

http://www.infowars.com/articles/nwo/depopulation_linked_merck_pharma_announces_africa_plan.htm

Why the media blacks out Bilderberg

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/june2008/070608Tax.htm youtube video

Interview with G Edward Griffin about the Federal Reserve Bank (Ben Bernanke, chairman of FED attended this years Bilderberg)

http://www.financialsense.com/transcriptions/2006/1018griffin.html

Monetary Inflation Is the Problem by Ron Paul

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul354.html

[RickT]

Without getting into a bunch of info which can be found with a bit of work, one simply has to look at the media silence.

Let's say just 30 of Hollywoods top 500 stars were to book an entire hotel, hold closed door meetings & refuse to talk about why they were doing it... do you suspect there would be msm media camped outside of said hotel?  You know they'd be all over it.  Where are the professional "anti-globalist" protest groups?  They show up for dog & pony show g7/8, WTO & Davos meetings but are nowhere to be seen for Bilderberg?  Kind of odd, no?

These are rhetorical questions.

[Beefcake]

Lets say that I am a sceptic and say:

"Whats the big deal about this Bilderberg group?
So what, just a bunch of rich and powerful people meeting
and talking. And they just dont want media coverage cause they don´t want to
have to think twice before saying anything!
Can you prove that they are evil and that what they discuss at their meetings
are evil and hurt us?"

Seriously, how does one link Bilderberg to world events? 
Where is the proof? I mean there are no BB documents and
the participants are sworn to secrecy right?

Enlighten me...

[phigsy]

They are there, amongst other things, to decide who becomes U.S. president in November and what course 'American' policy will take after that. They did it with Clinton, then with Blair (in the UK) and they made the decision to oust Thatcher in 1990 because she wasn't pro-Europe enough.
Bottom line; if they really had the best interests of the populous in mind they wouldn't be so afraid of scrutiny.
There are different arms of the western shadow government (CFR, Trilat. Commis., Carlyle Group, Carnegie Group), but this is one of the largest single gatherings of elite players.

[Sub-X]

Right on Beefcake 

[monkeymynd]

kamakazi: Don't you find it odd that Hillary didn't concede on Tuesday? Then, Hillary and Obama have a 'secret' meeting in Virginia (near Bilderberg...at Bilderberg!) Suddenly, she is going to be giving a speech today. Not to mention that there has been no media coverage of the event.

As said before, download Endgame and do some other research as well. It doesn't take a genius to figure it out.

[L2Design]

omg kamakazi get a colon cleansing (paranix tea)

hillary probably gave obama a nice lollipop licking that night--he won the bet LOL!!

[kamakazi]

You guys read as bad as I spell...

"If I WERE a sceptic"

I hate the globalist scum...
I know that many induviduals attending BB are bad news, like Kissinger who
we have PROOF of being a evil nazi type character.

It would be laughable if it weren´t so sad,
the fact that Hillary and Obama even talk at all after her assassination remarks.
So no its NOT a coincidence that they meet IN Virginia, IN Washington right at the steps of BB!

Looking at the people who attened and then magicaly become presidents and prime ministers
thats NOT a coincidence either.

BUT, I do have understanding for sceptics, who havent conected the dots.
Who want concrete proof of BB being as evil as we know it is...

[GoingEtheric]

Lets say that I am a sceptic and say:

"Whats the big deal about this Bilderberg group?
So wha.......................

is this a real question? 
Enlighten you? Not our job, enlighten yourself. There's plenty of info on BB.

[thadividedsky]

Do you think they're in there discussing how christmas was or how they think their countries will do in the olympics etc.? Do some research and the truth will set you free, if not then yer a lost cause. Either way, Bilderberg is evil and aint nobody gonna convince me otherwise. They all need to go down. WE WILL NEVER BE YOUR SLAVES SCUM. Never give up, never surrender. Liberty will prevail and good will triumph evil.

[LIbertAS]

It is exactly as it appears... That is all.   

[TheGoodFight1984]

I bet Obama and Clinton have been hooked up to this meeting by conference call all weekend.

[kamakazi]

Few satisfying answers...
Some of you said, "Its not our job too inform you" etc...

I thought the whole point was to "Wake up your fellow man"?
I know alot about the whole NWO agenda and issues surrounding it
but would be nice to learn more thats all...

Don´t turn this whole thing in too a cult
its the LAST f***ing thing we need!

[ViperSniper]

A good place to begin if you would like to see documentation is by reading The True Story of the Bilderberg Group by Daniel Estulin

It is time to catch up Kamikaze. It is not our job to prove to you that Bilderberg is really a bridge club.

Show us the proof that Kissinger is a feel good kind of guy, full of good tidings of peace and love. He is on the Steering Committee btw.

"Some even believe we are a part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure -- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty and I am proud of it." -David Rockefeller, in his Memiors.

Here is a good review of the book:
by Bill Gallagher Hachita NM | 02.15.2008
http://bilderbergbook.com/

A review of The True Story Of The Bilderberg Group, by Daniel Estulin
It is difficult to re-educate people who have been brought up on nationalism to the idea of relinquishing part of their sovereignty to a supra-national body.
                   —Bilderberg Group founder, Prince Bernhard—
 

As a rhetorical question, can someone please explain to me how it is that progressive liberals such as John Edwards and Hillary Clinton, as well as do-gooder humanitarians with multiple social projects ongoing such as the Rockefellers and every Royal House in Europe, can perennially attend Bilderberg meetings apparently knowing that the final objective of this despicable group of hoodlums is a fascist One World Empire?
                 —Daniel Estulin (P.318)—
Daniel Estulin is a Madrid-based journalist and an investigative reporter who took on the daunting and dangerous task researching the Bildeberg Group, and who offers his findings in The True Story Of The Bilderberg Group, recently published by Trine Day. Equally intriguing as his harrowing tales of being followed and nearly killed on a couple of occasions while working on the book, is the manner in which Estulin connects the dots between the Bilderberg Group, world events, notable politicians and corporate tycoons and the two other secretive monsters of the ruling elite, the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and the Trilateral Commission (TC). The project lasted fifteen years and was motivated by Estulin's curiosity about how it is that the mainstream media has never covered in depth the meetings of the Bilderberg Group whose combined wealth exceeds the combined wealth of all U.S. citizens.
What Estulin's book makes clear is that the group, along with the CFR and TC, has become a shadow government whose top priority is to erase the sovereignty of all nation-states and supplant them with global corporate control of their economies under the surveillance of "an electronic global police state."

The author emphasizes that not all members of the group are "bad" people, and he implies that membership is structured somewhat like concentric circles in a target scheme with in inner core and various levels of relationship between that core and the outer circles of membership. Almost every famous player in politics and finance in the world is a member of one of the three organizations mentioned above, and their political affiliations range from liberal to conservative, for example, George W. Bush, George Soros, Gerald Ford, George McGovern, Jimmy Carter. Of this private club, Estulin says:

This parallel world remains unseen in the daily struggles of most of humanity, but, believe me, it is there: a cesspool of duplicity and lies and double-speak and innuendo and blackmail and bribery. It is a surreal world of double and triple agents, of changing loyalties, of professional psychotic assassins, brainwashed black ops agents, soldiers of fortune and mercenaries, whose primary sources of income are the dirtiest and most despicable government-run subversive missions-the kind that can never be exposed.

This world, according to Estulin, is so perverse and evil that "it has left an indelible mark on my soul". (16) How not? Because the Bilderberg Group and its two other triplets, the CFR and the TC have set about to loot the entire planet. Their members run the central banks of the world and are poised to control discount rates, money-supply, interest rates, gold prices, and which countries receive or do not receive loans. Membership is by invitation only, many of the earliest members being handpicked, not from right-wing groups but from among none other than the Fabian Socialists who ultimately supported global government.

Another chilling quote Estulin includes is from William Shannon:

The Bilderbergers are searching for the age of post-nationalism: when we won't have countries, but rather regions of the Earth surrounded by Universal values. That is to say, a global economy; one World government (selected rather than elected) and a universal religion. To assure themselves of reaching these objectives, the Bilderbergers focus on a ‘greater technical approach' and less awareness on behalf of the general public.

THE BILDERBERG BAPTISM OF BILL CLINTON

In 1991 Bill Clinton attended the Bilderberg Conference in Baden-Baden where Estulin asserts that he was "anointed" to the U.S. presidency, and shortly thereafter he took an unexpected, unannounced trip to Moscow. It appears, says Estulin, that he was sent there to get his KGB student-era, anti-Vietnam war files "buried" before he announced his candidacy for president which happened some two-and-a-half months later. Today, Clinton is a member of all three groups: Bilderberg, CFR, and TC. Hillary Clinton is a member of the Bilderberg Group.

Estulin points out that "almost all of the presidential candidates for both parties have belonged to at least one of these organizations, many of the U.S. congressmen and senators, most major policy-making positions, especially in the field of foreign relations, much of the press, most of the leadership of the CIA, FBI, IRS, and many of the remaining governmental organizations in Washington. CFR members occupy nearly all White House cabinet positions."(80) When one considers that most prominent members of mainstream media are also members of what Edith Kermit Roosevelt, granddaughter of Theodore Roosevelt called "this legitimate Mafia", how can we assert that Americans obtain their news from independent sources?

For example, The News Hour with Jim Leher is the cornerstone of PBS's programming. Leher is a CFR member, and when one examines the funding of the news hour by: Archer Daniels Midland (ADM) whose chairman Dwayne Andreas was a member of the Trilateral Commission; Pepsico, whose CEO Indra Krishnamurthy Nooyi is a Bilderberger and TC Executive Committee member; and Smith Barney which is interlocked with Citigroup, a global financial services company that is a member of the Bilderberg Group, the CFR, and the TC, what kind of "news" should one expect from Leher's News Hour? Consider also that many of the journalists on the News Hour: Paul Gigot, David Gergen, William Kristol, and William Safire are members of one or more of the three groups.

Likewise, when we consider the membership in one or more of these groups of almost every American president since the inception of these organizations, we can no longer pretend that any Democratic or Republican presidential candidate offers the American people an alternative to ruling elite global hegemony.

In fact, Estulin's research reveals that "the Council on Foreign Relations creates and delivers psycho-political operations by manipulating people's reality through a ‘tactic of deception', placing Council members on both sides of an issue. The deception is complete when the public is led to believe that its own best interests are being served while the CFR policy is being carried out."

And what happens if the "anointed ones" become too autonomous? One chapter in the book, "The Watergate Con-Game", answers that question. In it Estulin suggests that Richard Nixon was set up by the Council on Foreign Relations of which he was a member because of his insubordination and unwillingness to submit to the shadow government. Presumably, Nixon's demise was carefully crafted to demonstrate to subsequent Chief Executives the price they would pay for disregarding the agenda of those who anointed them.

http://bilderbergbook.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=42&Itemid=1

[aLLyOuRbAsE]

Hmm I'll give a tiny go at part of this.. (toc: [History of Rulers Attending Bilderberg] - [Rule of Coincidense/Non-Coincidense] - [The Rule Proves That..] - [BUT, I MIGHT BE WRONG]):



[History of Rulers Attending Bilderberg]
Bilderberg has had all Presidents and Prime Ministers attend their meeting before they were elected in their respective countries.

[Rule of Coincidense/Non-Coincidense]
There's a rule I believe that says when something happens twice, it's a coincidense, 3 times it's a pattern, and 4 times it's a program. - It might be 1, 2 and 3 and not 2, 3 and 4 .. But I feel more certain with the latter so..

[The Rule Proves That..]
The above rule proves that it's Bilderberg and not the respective countries that select/elect the leaders. This means that it is Bilderberg that's in power and not the people of the countries.

[BUT, I MIGHT BE WRONG]
I may be completely wrong somewhere or everywhere in this post tho and thus need backing up from others who can verify it (not just say - "yea ur right!" and then bug off lol, but back it up with hard facts or circumstancial evidence)

no, HiQ, you are pretty much spot on, a very good post indeed. only thing i would say is it may not be all leaders, but certainly enough to satisfy the rule you quoted, but thats just nitpicking.

AYB

[RickT]

From Secret Rulers of the World... a leftie whitewash piece done in Britain , but it holds some interesting bits:

Especially at 2:30 or so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsT4dm5GdPk&feature=related

It's up to you to decide whether these people are just interested in a better world for us all... I suspect they are not, but I'm one of the 'lunatic fringe'

[1776blues]

You guys read as bad as I spell...

"If I WERE a sceptic"

I hate the globalist scum...
I know that many induviduals attending BB are bad news, like Kissinger who
we have PROOF of being a evil nazi type character.

It would be laughable if it weren´t so sad,
the fact that Hillary and Obama even talk at all after her assassination remarks.
So no its NOT a coincidence that they meet IN Virginia, IN Washington right at the steps of BB!

Looking at the people who attened and then magicaly become presidents and prime ministers
thats NOT a coincidence either.

BUT, I do have understanding for sceptics, who havent conected the dots.
Who want concrete proof of BB being as evil as we know it is...

I read your post then started reading responses an said OMG, do these people not know this was a hypothetical question and opinion. The first line"If I were a sceptic" was pretty evident that you were looking to start a dialogue in order to debate someone who actually is a nonbeliever or skeptic.

Can you spell overreaction?

[RickT]

I read your post then started reading responses an said OMG, do these people not know this was a hypothetical question and opinion. The first line"If I were a sceptic" was pretty evident that you were looking to start a dialogue in order to debate someone who actually is a nonbeliever or skeptic.

Can you spell overreaction?

Keep reading:

"Seriously, how does one link Bilderberg to world events?  Where is the proof?"

Does it really take that much to research this?  Is this forum not filled with info on this subject?  Are there not numerous videos and books on this topic?  I don't post much but have been researching this stuff for years & have found, if one responded in full to every question like this, they'd soon find themselve's doing nothing but posting & repeating the same arguments & info over & over.... only to discover the futility of wasted time & effort.  Sometimes, in this fight, it's better to encourage a person to research & make up there own arguments rather than spoon feed them.

This movement is spinning it's wheels simply because of having to argue & discuss certain facts over & over again.  & Bilderberg is one of those topics.

[Kregener]

Read Jim Tucker's Bilderberg Diary, a book chronicling his thirty-plus years of exposing the Bilderberg Group.

He is featured prominently in Alex Jones' 2007 documentary, Endgame: Blueprint for Global Enslavement, which others have already suggested as research material.

[1776blues]

Keep reading:

"Seriously, how does one link Bilderberg to world events?  Where is the proof?"

Does it really take that much to research this?  Is this forum not filled with info on this subject?  Are there not numerous videos and books on this topic?  I don't post much but have been researching this stuff for years & have found, if one responded in full to every question like this, they'd soon find themselve's doing nothing but posting & repeating the same arguments & info over & over.... only to discover the futility of wasted time & effort.  Sometimes, in this fight, it's better to encourage a person to research & make up there own arguments rather than spoon feed them.

This movement is spinning it's wheels simply because of having to argue & discuss certain facts over & over again.  & Bilderberg is one of those topics.

And your point to my point is what? Its not an argument unless there is disagreement. We all know the information is here. I merely pointed out that others were responding to the author of this thread as if he really stated that Bilderberg was not evil.

I will say this, any discussion about Bilderberg and their plans is a good discussion.

So the question should be asked, How many in here thought kamakazi actually was skeptic?

Perhaps this was a comprehension test, if so, the results are miserable.

[Trade Mark]

Put your hands on the screen.

[aLLyOuRbAsE]

i felt the OP was trying to black hat, as it were, to try and get a simple and solid argument together that would convince someone that bilderberg is not some benign bbq where the elite can just kick back.

and i think out of all the replies, HiQ's was by far the best, as it succinctly conveyed the logic that would lead to the conclusion that bilderberg is where the elite gather to direct the course of the world.

others posted some good resources to study, but unfortunately the majority evidently did think kamakaze was expressing his own views.

[KI4BNC]

Right on Beefcake 

darn.I was hoping both images would come through.

[GoingEtheric]

darn.I was hoping both images would come through.

lol, i love those fail images

[2Revolutions]

Few satisfying answers...
Some of you said, "Its not our job too inform you" etc...

I thought the whole point was to "Wake up your fellow man"?
I know alot about the whole NWO agenda and issues surrounding it
but would be nice to learn more thats all...

Don´t turn this whole thing in too a cult
its the LAST f***ing thing we need!

I think the best thing to do is get the list of the Bilderberg attendees for 2008 and  research their backgrounds.  I posted a couple links about Henry Kissinger and Ben Bernanke.  When you start researching these people you will find a common link between these people.  Some heavily involved in financing the eugenics movement, some focus on global governance and merging of countries.  For example, Rick Perry, governor of Texas, was invited to last year's meeting to get his marching orders on the NAU and Texas Trans Corridor.  Some of the attendees focus on gaining control of all natural resources and forming oligarchies. 

I do not think you will find all the answers you need on this forum.  I think you will have to read books like Tragedy and Hope, the Memoirs of David Rockfeller, the Creature of Jeykll Island, and War is a Racket.  These are just some of the books that will give you some insight into the global plan to control the world's natural resources and eliminate most of the people through poverty, man-made diseases, and war.  Another good book is Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler which shows the collusion between US companies and German companies to finance Hitler and help him get the technology needed to go to war. 

[ekt8750]

Lets say that I am a sceptic and say:

"Whats the big deal about this Bilderberg group?
So what, just a bunch of rich and powerful people meeting
and talking. And they just dont want media coverage cause they don´t want to
have to think twice before saying anything!
Can you prove that they are evil and that what they discuss at their meetings
are evil and hurt us?"

Seriously, how does one link Bilderberg to world events? 
Where is the proof? I mean there are no BB documents and
the participants are sworn to secrecy right?

Enlighten me...


 

You wouldn't happen to be the same spook that tried to frame me yesterday are ya?

[ummagumma]

Few satisfying answers...

that`s what i hear most ignorants are claiming..

[Xill]

Lets say that I am a sceptic and say:

"Whats the big deal about this Bilderberg group?
So what, just a bunch of rich and powerful people meeting
and talking. And they just dont want media coverage cause they don´t want to
have to think twice before saying anything!
Can you prove that they are evil and that what they discuss at their meetings
are evil and hurt us?"

Seriously, how does one link Bilderberg to world events? 
Where is the proof? I mean there are no BB documents and
the participants are sworn to secrecy right?

Enlighten me...


 

Huh millions of dead is not enough for you? They decided the Iraq war would happen.

[aLLyOuRbAsE]

Huh millions of dead is not enough for you? They decided the Iraq war would happen.

where's your proof?

i think that's what the point of the thread was, that we know its true, they did orchestrate iraq, right from 9/11 and the first gulf war, to iran contra and persian oil, and beyond, its all been part of the same plan, the nwo plan, but how do you best counter "where's your proof"?

i still think HiQ's reply was the best, as it presents a logical basis for the bilderberg being part, or central, to the overall nwo plan in which irag, 9/11, and the war of terror are a part.

so its all very well banding about wild statements like "the bilderberg have killed millions" and "the bilderberg decided on iraq", which are all very well and true, but to someone who has no reason to care yet, or no knowledge of the nwo, these statements sound like "the moon is made of cheese" and "the earth is flat", so with regard to this thread, your reply is wide of the mark.

[Xill]

where's your proof?

The people that participate in the Bilderberg group meeting are all either war criminals or war profiters (which also make them war criminals since they sustain the war economy).
Just research the deeds of the participants, Bilderberg is always full of evil people with evil ambitions. I dont need to prove what has been proved thousands of time in so many books.

[aLLyOuRbAsE]

The people that participate in the Bilderberg group meeting are all either war criminals or war profiters (which also make them war criminals since they sustain the war economy).
Just research the deeds of the participants, Bilderberg is always full of evil people with evil ambitions. I dont need to prove what has been proved thousands of time in so many books.

did you just read the first line of my post and not bother to read the rest?

seriously...

[JonTheSavage]

Enlighten me...

[GoingEtheric]

lol