Berkey Light made of POISON PLASTIC #7 !!!

[GoodBush]

In other words, yes.

[bennyxbo]

Don't you mean "Will our parent star appear to ascend relative to our frame of reference on the fabric of time-space on account of Earth's axial rotation for those who die today by the far-reaching hand of the NWO?"

lol.

If you can't find any fresh water in north america, im sorry, but you are not looking very hard.

[birgit]

The plastics of our lives...

Before allowing a dental sealant to be applied to you, or your children’s teeth, ask your dentist to verify that it does not contain BPA
In the event that you do opt to use plastic containers for your food, be sure to avoid those marked on the bottom with the recycling label No. 7, as these varieties may contain BPA.
Containers marked with the recycling labels No. 1, No. 2, and No. 4 do not contain BPA, but they do contain other unsavory chemicals that you’re best off avoiding as well. The Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy’s Smart Plastics Guide offers more detailed descriptions of the most commonly occurring chemicals in plastic products. They also offer this handy reminder:
With your food, use 4, 5, 1 and 2. All the rest aren't good for you."
Handy cut out chart:
http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2007/09/practical-values-cut-out-chart.gif

[PUPAGANDA]

CHECK THE VIDEO OUT:

BILL MOYERS JOURNAL and EXPOSÉ: AMERICA'S INVESTIGATIVE REPORTS examine why, even though studies show that the chemical Bisphenol A — found in plastic bottles, and in the lining of all aluminum cans — can cause cancer and other health problems in lab animals ... but the manufacturers, their lobbyists, and U.S. regulators say it's safe.

Watch this clip:
http://www-tc.pbs.org/moyers/rss/media/exposechemicals.m4v

[GoingEtheric]

CHECK THE VIDEO OUT:

BILL MOYERS JOURNAL and EXPOSÉ: AMERICA'S INVESTIGATIVE REPORTS examine why, even though studies show that the chemical Bisphenol A — found in plastic bottles, and in the lining of all aluminum cans — can cause cancer and other health problems in lab animals ... but the manufacturers, their lobbyists, and U.S. regulators say it's safe..............

Plastic all over the place, that's one thing. In a water filter, chump change

[dogmadestroyer]

Wha !?  get out of the city limits dude. I'ts deadly to be lazy these days...everyone seems to be grasping for the "convienient" solution to thier needs, which ends up killing them.

Go take a half day off every two weeks and go collect water from a pure source: a well , a spring or whatever.

Obviously you haven't been to some of the vast rural areas in the US. Upstate NY looks green and healthy but it is full of some very polluted lakes, rivers, and ground water.

[bennyxbo]

Obviously you haven't been to some of the vast rural areas in the US. Upstate NY looks green and healthy but it is full of some very polluted lakes, rivers, and ground water.

You are drinking the government fear propaganda cool aid that there's no clean water left... and that's why everyone drinks bottled tap.

http://waltonfeed.com/old/well.html

Dig a well 100meters from any stream or lake, and I guarantee you it is potable - just keep animals from falling in and drowning... imagine a 1mm berky filter stacked 100,000 high, that's what the water has to filter through.

[Capt. Obvious]

You are drinking the government fear propaganda cool aid that there's no clean water left... and that's why everyone drinks bottled tap.

http://waltonfeed.com/old/well.html

Dig a well 100meters from any stream or lake, and I guarantee you it is potable - just keep animals from falling in and drowning... imagine a 1mm berky filter stacked 100,000 high, that's what the water has to filter through.

not if the stream or lake is contaminated with chemicals. Some of those contaminants can't be filtered out. I agree you've got a good chance of getting clean water that way, but there's no guarantee

[bennyxbo]

not if the stream or lake is contaminated with chemicals. Some of those contaminants can't be filtered out. I agree you've got a good chance of getting clean water that way, but there's no guarantee

Well it's up to people to make that decision I guess: either find your own source of clean water, or buy bottles and filters for the rest of your life.

[bennyxbo]

not if the stream or lake is contaminated with chemicals. Some of those contaminants can't be filtered out. I agree you've got a good chance of getting clean water that way, but there's no guarantee

Are you saying it can only be filtered out by a berky?

[Capt. Obvious]

Are you saying it can only be filtered out by a berky?

no I'm saying some contaminants cannot be filtered out, period. Filtering is just letting water molecules pass through a medium and (hopefully) trapping the larger molecules. Some contaminants are either small enough to pass through the medium, or are dissolved in the water in such a way that you can't just physically separate them from the water. You'd have to put the water through some chemical process or boil it to separate the water from the contaminants. That's kind of how the Berkey PF2 removes flouride. There's some chemical bonding of the flouride in the water to aluminum (I think) in the PF2's, which is why the PF2's get used up after a few months. Nothing left for the flouride to bond to.

[dogmadestroyer]

You are drinking the government fear propaganda cool aid that there's no clean water left... and that's why everyone drinks bottled tap.

http://waltonfeed.com/old/well.html

Dig a well 100meters from any stream or lake, and I guarantee you it is potable - just keep animals from falling in and drowning... imagine a 1mm berky filter stacked 100,000 high, that's what the water has to filter through.

Are you serious? We have Onondaga lake which is the most polluted body of water in N. America. There are giant pools of mercury on the bottom and when its 94F and humid in the summer the park near it has to be closed for health reasons. Downtown Syracuse smells bad just because the lake is so polluted. Lets list off the rivers.. Genesee, Hudson, Mohawk, Oswego... hmm they're all full of PCBs and it seeps into the aquafirs. Some municipal water actually comes directly from the Hudson River which was actually forced to be dredged by the EPA for GE's pollution of it. What about all the dead lakes from pesticide runoff in the otherwise pristine mountains? How about Lake Ontario with all the dead fish washing up? Especially on the US side? That's healthy.

Don't get me wrong, I grew up with clean well water from a rare, unaffected part of the contaminated rural areas here. However, the water was of poor quality so we couldn't stand the taste and my parents never bought a filter. It also would turn black with clay and copper in the summer. Many people here do actually get their well water tested and find out its full of all sorts of things that shouldn't be there. I know of one.... ONE area with a large, extremely pure aquafir but like many aquafirs even in rural areas of the states it is widely overused and will be running out just like that giant one in the midwest will eventually.

[bennyxbo]

Are you serious? We have Onondaga lake which is the most polluted body of water in N. America. There are giant pools of mercury on the bottom and when its 94F and humid in the summer the park near it has to be closed for health reasons. Downtown Syracuse smells bad just because the lake is so polluted. Lets list off the rivers.. Genesee, Hudson, Mohawk, Oswego... hmm they're all full of PCBs and it seeps into the aquafirs. Some municipal water actually comes directly from the Hudson River which was actually forced to be dredged by the EPA for GE's pollution of it. What about all the dead lakes from pesticide runoff in the otherwise pristine mountains? How about Lake Ontario with all the dead fish washing up? Especially on the US side? That's healthy.

Don't get me wrong, I grew up with clean well water from a rare, unaffected part of the contaminated rural areas here. However, the water was of poor quality so we couldn't stand the taste and my parents never bought a filter. It also would turn black with clay and copper in the summer. Many people here do actually get their well water tested and find out its full of all sorts of things that shouldn't be there. I know of one.... ONE area with a large, extremely pure aquafir but like many aquafirs even in rural areas of the states it is widely overused and will be running out just like that giant one in the midwest will eventually.

I'm talking about digging a well in a rural location, not next to the shoreline of Syracuse. A city's sewer system is designed to flush the shit into the nearest lake or stream, so ya, water directly from a lake or stream is a bad idea... and it has been for a century.

And of course the government is going to tell you your well water is bad, they want to scare you into moving to the city and paying for their water system ( which is probably fluoridated ).

If your water is brown, drink it down... its just iron, and probably just means your well isn't deep enough. And if it smells like eggs, well, at least it doesn't smell like chlorine.

[dogmadestroyer]

Onondaga Lake was an example. The problem is the rivers and other lakes in RURAL... yes rural areas of NY state being quite contaminated. There are many industrial centers put in rural areas throughout the state.

[produck]

distilled water can leach minerals out of your body in order for you to absorb the water

On the contrary, that is a myth.

"Fit for Life II: Living Health" by Harvey & Marilyn Diamond
"Distilled water has an inherent quality. Acting almost like a magnet, it picks up rejected, discarded, and unusable minerals and, assisted by the blood and the lymph, carries them to the lungs and kidneys for elimination from the body. The statement that distilled water leaches minerals from the body has no basis in fact. It doesn't leach out minerals that have become part of the cell structure. It can't and won't. It collects only minerals that have already been rejected or excreted by the cells...To suggest that distilled water takes up minerals from foods so that the body derives no benefit from them is absurd."

[Capt. Obvious]

On the contrary, that is a myth.

"Fit for Life II: Living Health" by Harvey & Marilyn Diamond
"Distilled water has an inherent quality. Acting almost like a magnet, it picks up rejected, discarded, and unusable minerals and, assisted by the blood and the lymph, carries them to the lungs and kidneys for elimination from the body. The statement that distilled water leaches minerals from the body has no basis in fact. It doesn't leach out minerals that have become part of the cell structure. It can't and won't. It collects only minerals that have already been rejected or excreted by the cells...To suggest that distilled water takes up minerals from foods so that the body derives no benefit from them is absurd."

On the contrary. I know someone who got really sick from drinking only distilled water.

[lord edward coke]

On the contrary. I know someone who got really sick from drinking only distilled water.

too much water will leach your vit and mins from the body but that goes for any water.

[Rackstar]

This bothered me when I first got my berkey.  I don't know why they go out of their way to tell us that it's made of LEXAN.

But really this plastic doesn't "emit" much unless the water is sitting in there for a while.

I got through 1 to 2 gallons a day, so it's not "soaking" in the plastic.  It never tastes bad.  It takes a couple go throughs to get get all the funky taste out when you first use it.

I hope I'm right, anyhow about that. 

[L2Design]

Are you serious? We have Onondaga lake which is the most polluted body of water in N. America. There are giant pools of mercury on the bottom and when its 94F and humid in the summer the park near it has to be closed for health reasons.

OMGGGG thank you for this info. My brother in law wanted me to go SCUBA DIVING IN MAMMOTH LAKE here in the Houston area... I hate texas. It probably has more pollution.

[PUPAGANDA]

So I wrote the people at Berkey and I never received a reply about my concern?

I'll guess I'll try writing again........

[JTCoyoté]

The numbers 7 inside the triangular recycling emblem, here, means this that the plastic is  hard enough, that it imparts into whatever it it contains very little phyto-estrogen... the worst offender is a number 1...

This is a BS thread and I am extremely sorry I didn't see it earlier....

JTCoyoté

"The attacker must vanquish,
the defender has only to prevail."
~Coyoté

[PUPAGANDA]

Good to see you see your members concern as BS?

How about some answers to the question and not ridicule and call names?

How come the people at Berkey never replied to my concerns?

Calling this a conspiracy diminishes whatever agendas you may try and promote.

Ask questions, demand answers.......not just for 9/11

What's so different with the #7 in this product?

[PUPAGANDA]

Why is Lexan considered dangerous or harmful, but in this product it is fine?

[sweet*sugar]

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=46039.0  A graph on why #7 is dangerous.

[Capt. Obvious]

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=46039.0  A graph on why #7 is dangerous.

from the that thread:



FYI, I went ahead and got a stainless steel bekerky.

[sweet*sugar]

from the that thread:



FYI, I went ahead and got a stainless steel bekerky.

Does a steel one cost more?

[PUPAGANDA]

Thanks!!

Yes steel ones cost more.

[Wooblues]

I have a berkey and it is stainless steel - just dont buy anything in plastic.Yes it is hard but with a little work it can be done

 Just a reminder "DON'T REPLACE REASON WITH FEAR"

[Capt. Obvious]

Does a steel one cost more?

a little more, but not much. There are several sizes and then one I got I think it just about the same as berkey light. The steel one I got was $220 (two filters) whereas the berkey light is $200 I think (two filters). The big advantage of the berkey light is that you can see the water level. You can't see it with the steel, so you either guess or have to lift up the top and look at the water level periodically It's very solid though. I've been concerned sometimes that I would break the top rim of the bottom part of the berkey light when I separate the top from the bottom. It usually made a long CLANK when I would finally get them apart. the steel just sets in.

[shirteesdotnet]

I bought the plastic one to save some money and because it would see more portable if the SHTF. My water never sits in the berkey as Im always filling up glass bottles (like Perrier 750ml bottles as example. So, although the water touches the plastic, its not there long as it goes into glass containers. I would worry if you microwaved water in a plastic container or had the water sitting in a plastic container for more than a couple days.

[Dreadly03]

Does that still count if transfer the water out from the plastic bottle to a glass bottle? Can you still use the plastic Berkey?

[JTCoyoté]

Does that still count if transfer the water out from the plastic bottle to a glass bottle? Can you still use the plastic Berkey?

 If you will notice in the Mother Jones listing above, the last column is labeled for food...

Food contains acids, enzymes, bacteria, all of which utilize carbon making poly carbonates not so good for food storage...

Water however, once it is properly filtered contains none of these and should have a pH balance of 6.5 or a little greater... this will not attack the poly carbonate plastic, and consequently will not outgas phyto-estrogens... the mineral composition however that would be retained in water will attack steel... causing oxidation and other reactions, therefore the polycarbonate plastic for water is superior to steel...

The absolute perfect containment vessel however, would be one made of glass.

--Oldyoti

"I live daily in wonderment at the power of God's infusion
of righteous reasoning, among Free Men in Liberty's Light.
Our founding documents are truly divinely inspired."
Coyoté

[Capt. Obvious]

If you will notice in the Mother Jones listing above, the last column is labeled for food...

Food contains acids, enzymes, bacteria, all of which utilize carbon making poly carbonates not so good for food storage...

Water however, once it is properly filtered contains none of these and should have a pH balance of 6.5 or a little greater... this will not attack the poly carbonate plastic, and consequently will not outgas phyto-estrogens... the mineral composition however that would be retained in water will attack steel... causing oxidation and other reactions, therefore the polycarbonate plastic for water is superior to steel...

The absolute perfect containment vessel however, would be one made of glass.

--Oldyoti

"I live daily in wonderment at the power of God's infusion
of righteous reasoning, among Free Men in Liberty's Light.
Our founding documents are truly divinely inspired."
Coyoté

Plastic #7 means "none of the above" so you'd have to actually find out how they make the plastic know know if it is safe. Since Berkey says their #7 is Lexan, then we can look up the helath concerns for Lexan. I did. I'm not too worried, but why add to the toxins I take in when I have the money to get a steel one.

[PUPAGANDA]

From infowars itself:

http://www.infowars.com/?p=1575

Canada May Label Synthetic Estrogen Plastic as Toxic

Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
April 18, 2008

According to the New York Times, the Canadian government is “ready to declare as toxic a chemical widely used in plastics for baby bottles, beverage and food containers as well as linings in food cans.”

The chemical is called bisphenol-a, or B.P.A., and is classified as a hormone disruptor. Studies have linked low-dose B.P.A. exposure with permanent changes to the genital tract, increased prostate weight, a decline in testosterone, creating breast cells predisposed to cancer, prostate cells more sensitive to hormones and cancer, and hyperactivity. Moreover, when ingested B.P.A. mimics the effects of estrogen.

“Repeated exposure to either bisphenol-A or the natural estrogen over several days produced insulin resistance, a pre-diabetic state in which tissues lose their sensitivity to normal concentrations of insulin,” reports Ben Harder for Science News Online. “Animal studies have suggested that exposure to the chemical early in life causes obesity” and “might contribute to gestational diabetes in women.”

Tom Mosakowski, writing for Natural News, adds that the “damaging effects of the chemical include impairment and unnatural changes to sex organs and their functions, increased tumor formation, hyperactivity, neurotoxin effects, and signs of early puberty.” A cursory glance at headlines reveal that cancer, obesity, diabetes, and hyperactivity are rampant and on the increase, thanks mostly to B.P.A. in canned foods, baby bottles, water pipes, dental sealants, plastic water and soda containers and plastic wrap, etc.
   
   
   

“The National Toxicology Program, part of the National Institutes of Health, concluded that there was ’some concern’ that fetuses, babies and children were in danger because bisphenol A, or BPA, harmed animals at low levels found in nearly all human bodies,” writes Marla Cone of the Los Angeles Times. “An ingredient of polycarbonate plastic, BPA is one of the most widely used synthetic chemicals in industry today. It can seep from hard plastic beverage containers such as baby bottles, as well as from liners in cans containing food and infant formula.”

Other studies indicate very “low doses of BPA completely inhibited the activity of estrogen. Because estrogen normally increases the growth and regulates viability of developing neurons… these results support the idea that BPA may harm developing brain cells,” according to Scott Belcher of the University of Cincinnati. In short, B.P.A. is a complimentary cocktail for the dumbing down process, now well underway.

In EU dominated Europe, the level of B.P.A. is apparently not high enough. The EU recently increased the level of exposure it considers safe for human health, or maybe that should be effective for dumbing down the commoners and increasing cancer, early puberty, obesity and diabetes, as mandated by our eugenics obsessed rulers. In fact, if a study conducted by the Yale School of Medicine is any indication, synthetic estrogens in plastic may be a near perfect eugenics tool, as “widely-used plastics have a detrimental effect on a developing fetus [and] cause fertility problems.”

Jack Bend, a professor of pathology at the University of Western Ontario in London and one of the Canadian government’s outside scientific advisers, told the New York Times B.P.A. “may prove to cause damage in much the same way as early exposure to mercury.”

But then we are told mercury is safe, even healthy for children. If synthetic estrogens are in our food and drink — including baby bottles — maybe our rulers can phase out destructive vaccines, especially now that increasing numbers of people are learning about the link between autism and mercury-laden vaccinations.

However, this surreptitious poisoning may be tough if Health Canada has a say. Meanwhile, in the United States, the Department of Health and Human Services’ National Toxicology Program has “endorsed a scientific panel’s finding that there was ’some concern’ about neural and behavioral changes in humans who consume B.P.A.,” that is to say just about everybody.

[Defend America]

Good thing Nimmo has found something to post on the internet, like since he dropped the ball on 911 truth and went over to the enemy...

They ban anything at Infowars that even suggests Israel is pulling the strings, never mind Riad Hamad's murder in Austin, maybe it was a warning to Alex that he keep away from tough, anti Israel that is... and they did 911 remember, topics.

Scott Makufka aka Victor Thorne was a studio guest on Alex's show just about when Hamad got it... he must be seen as an interested party, Wayne Madsen says the Houston Police Department has been infiltrated by Mossad, maybe the Austin PD has as well.

Infowars has been trying to sell the latest Avery / Whatsisname 911 production... their blurb says it will be out in September... what a mob of vile traitors, last year Nimmo and co were telling the world... Wait for September Loose Change Final Cut will be here, now this year as well.

LC Final Cut was trash... The Watson Boys, whose job it is to vet all posts to Infowars, say this new September vid has Building 7 revelations, if Avery and co are sitting on 911 evidence they could be called terrorists... 911 The Explosive Reality vid, says bodies littered the foyer of Bldg 7, that has been out since 2006 and has had no comment from Infowars at all.

Kurt Nimmo will be frothing at the gob.

[Capt. Obvious]

Good thing Nimmo has found something to post on the internet, like since he dropped the ball on 911 truth and went over to the enemy...

  First I heard anything like this. What's the story?

[Defend America]

Nimmo was the grand champion of 911 truth.

His flagship site Another Day in the Empire: version 1, was the definitive article on contemporary alternative journalism, no topic was too tough, no shaggy suicide or suspicious death was too rough, and his eye was firmly fixed upon the Jews.

He had concluded that the dancing Israeli's filming the event, and the President's sighting of the first air strike from Florida calumniated the White House and the Zionist lobby all at once, he further concluded that since the evidence was so obvious and so damning, anyone who failed to draw the same conclusions as he was either a stretcher case retard or in on it.

He was particularly hard down on Ron Paul, for his total lack of morals in so far as he was a septagenarian veteran of twenty years in the Congress, and here he was trumpeting the same BS that OBL and nineteen more did it.

Then trace the genesis of ADE 2, now Nimmo has gotten away from truth and RP is suddenly a good guy who should be President.

[Capt. Obvious]

now Nimmo has gotten away from truth and RP is suddenly a good guy who should be President.

I can't find anything that shows he's gotten away from truth. What am I missing?

[PUPAGANDA]

Please start a new thread for talking about your view on Kurt Nimmo and 9/11.

By the way, this is news to me........not sure if I believe it.......but, I'm always willing to hear what others have to say.

So say it in a new thread. Thanks

[Defend America]

I can't find anything that shows he's gotten away from truth. What am I missing?

The evidence is overwhelming that the WTC attacks were an Israeli job, it is on that basis that Ron Paul must be seen as a traitor, till Nimmo went over he posted the same stuff over and over all across the internet for years, and still Ron Schmaul avoided the truth.

Nimmo solved the dichotomy of the unwithstandable force and the immovable object, in that RP was immovable in his refusal to acknowledge truth, was no longer an issue since the unwithstandable force of the truth that Nimmo once posted, had been replaced with encomiums by Nimmo in favor of Paul.

"...Zionists Psychopaths and 911.

The strong Zionist involvement in 9/11 has been well documented for years, a complete description of the events of 9/11 should reconcile the evidence for Zionist complicity with the theory that psychopaths will rise to positions of power.

Larry Silverstein and Frank Lowy took over the World Trade Center lease and made damn sure the buildings were insured for $billions against terrorist attacks, a mere six weeks prior to 9/11.

On the morning of 9/11, Silverstein had a "dermatologist's appointment"; consequently he did not take breakfast at the Windows on the World restaurant and so avoided the tragic fate of nearly 3,000 WTC occupants.

His two children who worked for Silverstein Properties, were also spared.

That same morning, Benjamin Netanyahu, a close friend of Silverstein, was in New York City along with some of his employees, Netanyahu was in London on the morning of the 7/7 attacks, along with Rudy Giuliani who received advance warning of the WTC2 collapse - and being the first Tower to collapse, such an event was completely unprecedented at the time of the warning." takeourworldback.com