How many people in the REAL world do you know that are aware of what's going on?

[New Whirled Order]

Still having some trouble smashing the left-right paradigm with my father.  He dislikes Obama and knows there are globalists at the top of the power structure, but he still thinks that Fox News (Bill O'Reiley, Glenn Beck, Etc.) are standing up for his rights and fighting the new world order.  I cannot get him to stop watching Fox News! 

[Geolibertarian]

Still having some trouble smashing the left-right paradigm with my father.  He dislikes Obama and knows there are globalists at the top of the power structure, but he still thinks that Fox News (Bill O'Reiley, Glenn Beck, Etc.) are standing up for his rights and fighting the new world order.  I cannot get him to stop watching Fox News! 

Although it's a bit dated now, have you shown him Outfoxed?

       http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6737097743434902428

If that doesn't cause him to at least question his blind faith in FOX "News," then I doubt anything will.

[New Whirled Order]

Although it's a bit dated now, have you shown him Outfoxed?

       http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6737097743434902428

If that doesn't cause him to at least question his blind faith in FOX "News," then I doubt anything will.

No, I have not shown him that, and thank you for the suggestion.  Actually, I haven't seen it myself.

This is a tough nut to crack because he's retired and is glued to Fox News, Fox Business, CNBC, Bloomberg, etc., ALL DAY LONG.  I do the best I can, but it's tough to compete with that many hours of programming/brainwashing.   

[Dewk]

   REAL world was 13 seasons do you mean the real world show or the real world the planet?  that's the answer you get.   I'm using the apprentice as an example Donald Trump fired 4 normal boring people but kept an alcoholic Dennis Rodman for the drama.

[Farn]

One in 100, at best, is my guess.  About 3 million people, if we're lucky.  The more people that know what's going on, the better our chances to effect the kind of restoration that is needed.  We need to roll back almost 100 years of Rhodes planning and execution.  We need the freedom information known by a majority of people.  Never be satisfied with a minority.

[Volitzar]

FOX News is trying to mimic GCN, maybe they're waking up over there.   

[John Galt]

Sometimes I'm truly convinced I'm successfully waking people up that are close to me, to at least a semi-awake state. But then, the next time I talk to them, I learn they've been re-indoctrinated into the same bullcrap they were in before we talked. It's damn frustrating, and I find myself starting to lose my temper with these folks. And when I lose my temper with them, I feel almost as if I WANT the NWO to have its way with them. I know that's what they, the NWO architects, want me to feel, so I do my best to quickly try to calm down and fill myself with love and peace when this occurs. But sometimes, to be honest, it's VERY hard.

What happened to the human beings around me that I used to know? When did they stop giving a f**k? Or maybe they never really did, and the only thing that changed is that I woke up and started to give more of a f**k.

These f**kers in charge have really done a good job on us. But I'm a competitive kind of guy. By no means am I throwing in the towel on those I can't convincingly wake up.

I'm using this post to vent myself to my fellow wakers following a weekend filled with failed conversations. After a good night's sleep, I will fight harder and smarter tomorrow. Bet on it.

~jg

[db]

In the real (non-virtual) world -- like one, my buddy, rd.

Oh well.

Maybe, I'll get a dog.

[Noel Degrassi]

Although it's a bit dated now, have you shown him Outfoxed?

       http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6737097743434902428

If that doesn't cause him to at least question his blind faith in FOX "News," then I doubt anything will.

You know, some people say..............

"Journalism" at its best. 

[netizen_x]

Information is a form of energy. The human body and brain is a stable system of energy. Stable systems reject any massive input of energy. That's why we can't stand a massive input of electricity or heat. Move a cigarette lighter or match flame toward your hand and your hand will retract.

Information into the brain is the same. Be patient. Humans will draw themselves toward a campfire but run away if you bring out a flamethrower.

[granuaile]

1) I'm Canadian and don't go to the states all that much (mostly since realizing all the NWO stuff, and because the boarder guards have turned into real dicks) but I'd estimate that from what I understand, maybe about a fifth of people have at least some idea of what's going on. Unfortunately, I think only a small portion of these people actually voice their thoughts and concerns about it.

As for Canada, the west probably has the most awake people, not to mention the far north. If you go to Toronto or Vancouver, or any of the other urban centers which are super obsessed with being "politically correct", you find nothing. I have a feeling that the maritimes are starting to wake up a bit too, but I can't say for sure, just that they seem to have their heads OUT of their butts. All in all, I think there are more every day, but our media is so intertwined with America's that it's really not any better here than it is there.

2) I couldn't say how many I know for sure. My boyfriend and friends through him are all awake, as well as some family of his that I'm close to. My mum is getting there, and one of my close friends.

However, the rest of the people in my life are the polar opposite. The vast majority of the friends I've grown up in are frustratingly brainwashed Obama flag-wavers. Most of my family are either police or government workers, which doesn't help matters, and my dad actually gets angry if I even mention this. I have a feeling that some of my stepfamily may wake up soon, but I don't see them enough to know how to ask.

3) I've yet to figure out how to get people to even listen to me, let alone believe me. A single word against the government/states/Obama/military sends them into this weird denial rage, and then they avoid me for a couple weeks. My boyfriend is good at getting the information across, but I'm not sure exactly what it is he does that works.
I've found that a lot of gun owners and hunters are more receptive however, because they know in a more blatent way what the government is doing to try and take our rights away.

4) I think it would be worth the trouble, but I've yet to get up the courage to do it. Apart from talking with my mum, it's nearly impossible for me to get anything through to the people in my life. I'm hoping that they'll come to it on their own... the second I hear one question the government or anything else going on in the world, then I'll step in. However, if sh*t hits the fan, I'm not holding back with them. I won't care whether they believe me or not, but I'll do anything to try and save them.

[New Whirled Order]

Earlier today, I was able to get my father to sit down and watch Loose Change - Final Cut and Fabled Enemies back to back.  Those two films go very well together.  We discussed the films afterward and I reminded him that Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, and Glenn Beck call 911 truthers 'kooks' because they don't want you to find out that the official story is a fraud. 

[Katie]

Greetings from Texas! I've been awake for several years, just kept to myself though. I guess at first I wasn't sure if it was true or not. You kinda go a little crazy at first,you know what I mean? You really think your gonna loose it. I've always known the evil was out there,but when you finally have to confront it you are never the same. My Father is the most awake next to me, he is part Native American so he has never been a big fan of the government. He is also a vet so he knows what its like to be screwed by the government. I'm trying very hard to wake people up but they just don't want to hear it! Can't say I blame them I was there myself once. I find myself praying a lot more now, going to confession praying the rosary, begging St. Michael for help fighting these monsters. By the way I am a Vatican 1 Catholic I don't have anything to do with that apostasy in Rome! AS far as I am concerned they are part of this whole mess too! My husband thinks I am a nut he just rolls his eyes. He still believes Obama will pull through. I still keep trying to wake people up. I would hope someone would do that for me. It feels good to talk about it though with people who get it. Please know that I am praying for all of us. It might not be a bad idea to talk to St. Micheal if you get scared he has fought this devil before and won, he knows him very well. Use his knowledge he is an ArchAngle after all! God bless you all know that I am praying for all of you.

[momof2]

Greetings from Texas! I've been awake for several years, just kept to myself though. I guess at first I wasn't sure if it was true or not. You kinda go a little crazy at first,you know what I mean? You really think your gonna loose it. I've always known the evil was out there,but when you finally have to confront it you are never the same. My Father is the most awake next to me, he is part Native American so he has never been a big fan of the government. He is also a vet so he knows what its like to be screwed by the government. I'm trying very hard to wake people up but they just don't want to hear it! Can't say I blame them I was there myself once. I find myself praying a lot more now, going to confession praying the rosary, begging St. Michael for help fighting these monsters. By the way I am a Vatican 1 Catholic I don't have anything to do with that apostasy in Rome! AS far as I am concerned they are part of this whole mess too! My husband thinks I am a nut he just rolls his eyes. He still believes Obama will pull through. I still keep trying to wake people up. I would hope someone would do that for me. It feels good to talk about it though with people who get it. Please know that I am praying for all of us. It might not be a bad idea to talk to St. Micheal if you get scared he has fought this devil before and won, he knows him very well. Use his knowledge he is an ArchAngle after all! God bless you all know that I am praying for all of you.

Welcome and thanks for the prayers (ditto).

[PainInDaBrain]

    It occurred to me that as we all sit here at our computers and blog, and research the NWO, and try to figure out what's going to happen when, etc, that most of us are probably the only one we know who know what's going on. Make sense?

   I enjoy blogging and reading and writing posts because it let's me communicate with other like minded people. It lets me know that there ARE other people who know what's really going on besides me.

   In the REAL world unfortunately however, that's not the case. In the real world, if I try to even discretely broach on the subject of the NWO and Martial Law, etc, I get treated like I'm from a leper colony. People get real uncomfortable about it and simply ignore the whole thing altogether or change the subject. It's like talking to a wall.

   I know it's because they're brainwashed of course. But you can't really come out and tell someone that can you? You don't want to loose your friends because they won't associate with you cause you won't shut up about the NWO, but at the same time, you don't have as much in common with them as you used to because you know, and they don't. Out of all my friends, I know of ONE other person in the REAL world who really knows what's going on, and I am the only person he knows. Both of us post blogs and email stuff back and forth about the latest thing that happened or whatever, but neither of us know anyone except the other, in the real world.

Is this how it is with most people?

I've pretty much resigned myself to not talking about it to people who don't know, (unless I'm asked) but can't let it go altogether, so here I what I try to tell brainwashed people.

"If there's a hurricane coming, and you stick your head in the sand, doesn't mean it isn't still coming."

Questions:

1. There are roughly 3 million people in the US. What percentage of those people do you think have a real grasp of what's really going on. By "real grasp" I don't mean an expert. I mean a simple, basic working knowledge of the NWO. Let's break it down. Out of every 100,000 people in the US, how many out of those 100,000 do you think have a basic working knowledge of the NWO?

2. How many people do you know in the REAL world who know what's going on?

3. Does anyone have a real simple tactic or phrase they use on brainwashed people to try to get them to see?

4. Is it really worth the trouble you go through to try to get people to open their eyes when they obviously like staying asleep? Is it worth it?

You speak the truth brother and so does everyone on this forum...if you were a real life friend i would be happy to hear you talk about the nwo as i do too...i have some friends who believe me though even tho some dont seem like it it is like brining up a random thing,but they still are ready...maybe alittle not to bright but i guess they are good fighters and know guerilla warfare but anyways besides the point 1 guy i know in real life at my school knows this too and we are planning to see what happens next...we arent good friends either but we talk alot about this stuff.Anyways yes mostly people on the internet on this forum communicate really well and people in real life seem like a wall...but same goes for me...in my school they are either sheep or really really stupid (no offense) even my teachers dont believe me and come up with the best arguments on how this conspiracy is bullcrap but i believe it aint and of course they are teachers..so obviously yea...Some people in my school are only obessed with fashion,popularity,drama,mtv,amerika's best dance crew...etc that crap that distracts and literally stupifys u and i feel like a outkast besides my friends there...but its school go figure...im trying my best though...i have already phazed some people especially a girl who was a fashion person too but not  so much she knew what was up..and yea this is long and i can go on and on but lets finish this

Some people stay sheep
Some people never wake up
Because of their choices they will be left behind and its a sad sight
Also dont give up not trying to wake them up...i mean about 20 people think im nuts but i dont care

btw if u know people that like rap or rock show them
Immortal technique-rap < he speaks the truth
Rock: distrubed,system of a down < yea rock

ps. seems like i talk nonsence sorry lol

[ltndeathstrikeonnwo777]

I must agree with the author of this blog we really must do a better job at reassembling the troops and start fighting our enemy with all the ammos we have

[House]

1. There are roughly 3 million people in the US. What percentage of those people do you think have a real grasp of what's really going on. By "real grasp" I don't mean an expert. I mean a simple, basic working knowledge of the NWO. Let's break it down. Out of every 100,000 people in the US, how many out of those 100,000 do you think have a basic working knowledge of the NWO?
Tough to answer, I'll wager alot more that we think. They're just not going "public" for fear of being ridiculed like many of us have been, atleast I have....nut-job, conspiracy theorist, whacko, tin-foil hat wearer, you know the drill.


2. How many people do you know in the REAL world who know what's going on?
Not nearly enough, atleast personally. Look on any hunting/gun/outdoor forum.....they "get it"...and there's some numbers there. Back to the question (personally) only a handful. I have actually lost friends over it. When we parted ways, I informed them not to show their faces when TSHTF, I'm doing good to supply myself and make BO arangements. They were warned, and if they chose to ignore the warnings (not just mine, but those happening daily)....then that's their choice.

3. Does anyone have a real simple tactic or phrase they use on brainwashed people to try to get them to see?
I'll ask them to name all the skyscrapers to have fallen due to fire (of course they can't), so I explain to them the 3 at the WTC on 9/11. You might be suprised how many weren't even aware there was a 3rd structure that fell on 9/11...seriously  Sometimes I'll mention the jet that flew into the Empire State Building too (I believe in the 40's, not 9/11).

4. Is it really worth the trouble you go through to try to get people to open their eyes when they obviously like staying asleep? Is it worth it?
 
It definately is when you've gotten someone to admit or see the truth. When you're wasting your breath on some melon-head who knows it all (atleast what he saw on TV), and subscribes to Popular Mechanics (by gawd it was good enough for McGuyver), and thinks there's NO WAY the wonderful government would never take part in such crimes, you can talk 'till you're blue in the face. I've learned to spot them quicker, so I waste less time on them now.

I used to come-on alittle too strong I think, atleast I think that way now, so I've lightened-up somewhat, especially how I bring it up (any part of it). Some people (ALOT) I honestly think are more afraid of admitting to the truth, than they are just living without even knowing. If they never see the truth, they don't have to claim responsibility in making a change. It's like those people you've seen who stand by while some old lady gets mugged, they turn the other way instead of stomping some scumbags ass. It's easier for them, to choose to not get involved....even if it directly effects THEIR lives.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVPH1rRH3Sg&feature=related

I had someone tell me he was happy with the country "as is", and felt he got his moneys worth for every tax dollar he was happy to pay. LMAO....you can see upfront this guys way too far gone. So, I'm just screwing with him now  People actually get offended, it's because they're ashamed that they KNOW what's going-on and the fact they refuse to admit it and admit their responsibility in it. No one wants to admit they've been made a fool of, or have been scammed, especially by their government, right under their noses, eyes wide open. Hell, we're all guilty of that......

[wezthebikie]

I know many people that are aware of 9/11 and some other things here and there. Sadly though, they don't really look into it very deeply as they are more interested in things like work, bills, TV, Music and things of that sort. They don't want to spend their free time exploring the NWO and feel helpless in a hopeless situation, so they just deal with the day to day.

That happens a lot in Australia as well.

[Godsent]

I know some that claim to be aware, But they have serious "go along to get along" "when in Rome"... attitudes.

A whole lot of people don't even know they are part of the problem.It is Kind of like Bush once said. "If your not with us you are against us".

[Freeski]

That happens a lot in Australia as well.

It's the essence of the whole thing.

Keep us focussed on things that do not matter.

[washpatriot]

No one I know of knows or cares to know about the NWO or what is going on.  My wife even thinks I'm deluded.  She doesn't want to know or hear about what's going on.  She has agreed to prepare for the worst and we are.  For many people it's too frightening to comprehend.....everything that they know and value (ie politics, religion, the righteousnos of the United States, money, etc) is tied to their belief in the system.  They can't acknowledge that this is not real and that there is a totally different agenda out there.  Many people can't psychologically handle this type of information.

 Working eople are too busy with their daily lives and familys to even pretend to think about what's really going on.  Not suprisingly the number of people who can or want to understand what's going on are limited.  Generally older people (over  65) don't want to know or refuse to acknowledge that the NWO or other similar issues could be possible.

For the people I know, denial is the key to happiness.

[Freeski]

No one I know of knows or cares to know about the NWO or what is going on.  My wife even thinks I'm deluded.  She doesn't want to know or hear about what's going on.  She has agreed to prepare for the worst and we are.  For many people it's too frightening to comprehend.....everything that they know and value (ie politics, religion, the righteousnos of the United States, money, etc) is tied to their belief in the system.  They can't acknowledge that this is not real and that there is a totally different agenda out there.  Many people can't psychologically handle this type of information.

 Working eople are too busy with their daily lives and familys to even pretend to think about what's really going on.  Not suprisingly the number of people who can or want to understand what's going on are limited.  Generally older people (over  65) don't want to know or refuse to acknowledge that the NWO or other similar issues could be possible.

For the people I know, denial is the key to happiness.

I know what you're saying but I'm still of the belief that they're preoccupied, more than afraid (preoccupied by design of course).

[chris jones]

I hear you. I would like to open people's eyes if I can, but I don't dwell on it if I can't, and I don't feel guilty if I choose NOT to say anything. The Lord knows that if someone doesn't know what's going on, it isn't as though there wasn't enough information out there for them to find out.

While we're on that, that's another thing that always amazes me. The internet is LOADED with information about the NWO, virtually any aspect of it you want to find out about, and still, hardly anybody has clue.
So sad, and so unnecessary.

All I can say is that my eyes are WIDE OPEN! Hope yours are too.

The silent majority, societys children, sheeple, flag wiggling brainwashed, soldouts, cowards. Ya bro, its a real FN humdinger isn't it.

I would spend days informing a human being the truth if his mind was opened. I would not spend 10 seconds with a sold out America love it or leave it FK.
Ya. I blame the the mindset of the bubble people, and I lay blame of the conditioning they have lived in for the past decades.

I seriously attemtped to find excuses for the sheeple, no shiite, for years, I failed. It is so much simpler for them to throw shiite at us than the ol Gov. To read the daily propaganda wiggle the flag, and watch their telly.

The truth scares the shiite out of them and their defense is to cling to the illusion and defile those who who attempt to open their eyes.

But you have to admit, we have made headway, not what we would like to have accomplished, but we are being heard in numbers.
Soon they will have no option, their conditioning will be eradicated , and the truth will be layed bare, no more running, no more illussions.

Goverments= Govern-minds. These bags of shiiite have been filling the masses brains with BS since hector was a pup.

[Geolibertarian]

The silent majority, societys children, sheeple, flag wiggling brainwashed, soldouts, cowards. Ya bro, its a real FN humdinger isn't it.

I would spend days informing a human being the truth if his mind was opened. I would not spend 10 seconds with a sold out America love it or leave it FK.
Ya. I blame the the mindset of the bubble people, and I lay blame of the conditioning they have lived in for the past decades.

I seriously attemtped to find excuses for the sheeple, no shiite, for years, I failed. It is so much simpler for them to throw shiite at us than the ol Gov. To read the daily propaganda wiggle the flag, and watch their telly.

The truth scares the shiite out of them and their defense is to cling to the illusion and defile those who who attempt to open their eyes.

That's why it's called "casting pearls before swine."

       http://propagandamatrix.com/forum/index.php/topic,5068.0.html

But you have to admit, we have made headway, not what we would like to have accomplished, but we are being heard in numbers.

Yes, but being heard is not enough:

"My people and I have come to an agreement which satisfies us both. They are to say what they please, and I am to do what I please." -- Frederick The Great (1712-1786)

That's why I so often stress the importance of election reform.

[Satyagraha]

I know one person, who started as a Ron Paul supporter and became more involved... taking his red pill in little bits. He's not quite there yet, but I'm working on it.  The info I find here is a big help - facts are facts.
I have dropped lots of seeds... hoping people will wake up. They are reluctant to leave the comfort of the deception... I understand why the Obama loyalist wept when he learned the truth. You have all this 'hope' that someone will come along and make it better.. waking up is realizing that YOU are the one who has to make it better.

[Mike Philbin]

well, I can only hope, low though the hit figures are for my humble blog
http://mikephilbin.blogspot.com
those 400 unique hits per DAY are starting to make a dent in the somnambulent mass of Sheeple



*imagines dented sheeple

[Freeski]

i know one person and that is my father.I also told my best friend but i dont know what he thinks.I also told a girl i like she ignores me :|.I try to convince her for a while(2-3weeks) to come with me to well talk in a park.I still didn't succeed but i am pretty sure i am close.As a sidenote how can i convince her to come to the park(i would like alone) from there on i can talk a lot.I think i know plenty of things(9-11,the protocols,the masons,a few things about the banks,MSM propaganda,feminist agenda etc )

Try a different setting; a deserted park is no doubt a tough sell.

[codemonkey70]

Our circle of friends... none.
Family... my parents and grandmother. Cousins and uncles.. still where my husband and I were a year ago. Up to their ears in NWO related activities.

[phasma]

I think most of my long term friends think iv`e lost the plot. I dont care. . . I will keep on keeping on.

My OH listens to what i say and he appears to understand what i am saying but the most i can get out if him is a "hmm, thats not good" or "hmm,thats not right" or worse still "hmm, but what can you, one person do?"

Persistance pays though. The older generations are easier to wake up than most. They can see how crazy assed our country (no, make that the world ) has become and they are looking for an explanation.
My nan (70`s) now is fully against vaccines ! Knows of the NWO and fights against chemtrails ! She knows the truth as much as we can know it re london and 9/11. She in turn has got other people interested.

I think, we are coming to a point whereby the actions of the NWO are so in our faces and outrageous that people are now being forced to question whats happening, and what they "know" the more outrageous they behave the better for our movement.

[Atomgrad]

Sometimes I'll mention the jet that flew into the Empire State Building too (I believe in the 40's, not 9/11).

You could also try telling them that ALL skyscrapers/tall buildings in ALL cities with an airport nearby, have had to be designed to withstand plane strikes since that incident. It is one of the main reasons that they switched to steel framed structures instead of concrete.

You could also explain that when an engineer describes a building as being 'Plane Proof' he actually means, thanks to the 'Overengineering' rule which is used in all structural design, that the building can withstand multiple plane impacts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overengineering

Overengineering (over-engineering) is the result of a design for high-end or specialized market criteria. Over-engineering results in a product that is more complicated or robust than necessary, and can decrease productivity of the design team. As a design philosophy it is the opposite of the less is more school of thought

The WTC were overengineered to a factor of 5, which means 5 planes = plane proof. Actually, it means a lot more than that, as each floor has to be plane proof for the building to be classified plane proof, a chain being only as strong as it's weakest link and all that.

http://www.public-action.com/911/jmcm/physics_1.html

In the original article, I cited my own experience that a support device must be capable of bearing three times the maximum load that would ever be applied.

It turns out that this rule-of-thumb is applicable only to dynamic loads, not static (structural) loads of commercial buildings. Since then, I have been informed by a commercial structural engineer that the standard ratio for static loads is five, not three. That is, if a bridge is rated to carry 1 ton, it should be capable of bearing 5 tons without collapsing at the time the bridge is built. 

If they think fire caused it, show them the Chinese tower that burned a couple of months ago.

http://demonicious.com/20090212/skyscraper-burns-but-survives/

Point out it is still standing.

If they try to argue that the planes damaged the towers and that is why they fell, point out that...

Like many modern structures and buildings, the WTC Towers were over-designed to withstand weight distribution in the event of structural damage.  According to calculations made by the engineers who helped with the design of the Twin Towers, “all the columns on one side of a Tower could be cut, as well as the two corners and some of the columns on each adjacent side, and the building would still be strong enough to withstand a 100-mile-per-hour wind.”

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/world-trade-center-building-designers-pre-9-11-claims-strongly-implicate-towers-should-have-remained-standing-9-11

Neither plane managed to cause that much damage to either tower, and neither hit a corner.

 

[SNB]

How many people do you know in the REAL world who know what's going on?

Zero, which is why I joined; in hopes of meeting a few in my area.

[Freeski]

Visited some folks who were friends with my mother. They have a large 75 acre farm with cows, pigs, and horses, shit loads of corn and tomatos, etc.
I started off talking about how the economy may crumble and drop out and the distrust in the government. I asked this one woman if she knew what the NWO was and she said yea. Her husband is all into this stuff. He was telling me how the Global Elite want to get back to Mars (huh?).

I have some pictures of Chemtrails I took while driving home. Man were they big!
I've woken up my step-father's dad. My mother is careless to do anything and my father is almost flat out broke.
Person down the street has a son in the military, knows all about it. He first approached me with the 'Conspiracy Theory'-look. Trying to purchase a bullhorn so I can get out and protest. Gonna recommend my C4L group to request that we schedule a showing of the Obama Deception at a movie theater. Then maybe I was thinking of asking those folks to get together for a protest locally. My C4L organizer lives in the same township as I do, great way of improvising on that as well.

I feel the awakening growing, I feel so excited.

Man, that's a ton of ideas!

[Freeski]

Zero, which is why I joined; in hopes of meeting a few in my area.

Which is why you joined this forum? Welcome, and what's your special area of interest?

[Freeski]

Maybe 1, but only partially. And not enough that I would trust her with my life. She can't shoot a gun, and neither can I. So I guess there's really no one in my area that I KNOW FOR CERTAIN is awake. That can be very disconcerting to me sometimes.

We are few

[SNB]

Which is why you joined this forum? Welcome, and what's your special area of interest?

Thx for the welcome. 1st and foremost, I'm looking for a convincing argument to present to my kids' mother, in hopes she'll reject the upcoming swine flu vaccination. I called their school last week and confirmed that they are indeed going to be offering the shots at the school in mid October, so time is running low. Any help with this would be most appreciated.

[Mike Philbin]

my other (more flippant) answer is THIS IS THE REAL WORLD

[phasma]

Yeah, youv`e exited the matrix the minute you sit dowm at your computer and read the contents of this forum.

[Polaris]

With the recent John P. Holdren revelations it would seem to me that the eugenics aspect of the NWO
is the easiest to present to the sheep. It would be impossible for them to deny things that have been said on record. Let them know how popular these ideas ( which in essense promote crimes against humanity) are amongst high ranking officials. Just in the past few weeks I remember reading atleast 10 such cases on infowars.

[Freeski]

With the recent John P. Holdren revelations it would seem to me that the eugenics aspect of the NWO
is the easiest to present to the sheep. It would be impossible for them to deny things that have been said on record. Let them know how popular these ideas ( which in essense promote crimes against humanity) are amongst high ranking officials. Just in the past few weeks I remember reading atleast 10 such cases on infowars.

I got the old "don't you think people change after 30 years?" rationalization from my brother on this one the other day. Complete refusal to believe in badness.

[Mike Philbin]

my next question is, "What IS going on?"

as this is a mostly back-engineering information war, I'm not even convinced the estimable members of this forum have ACTUALLY SEEN Big Picture.