Could someone please...

[purple-orange]

Could someone please present to me, in a clear, concise and logical presentation of evidence, why the official conspiracy theory is inaccurate? (Note: Not evidence for an inside-job hypothesis, just evidence refuting the OCF.) Thank-you.

[TheGoodFight1984]

this whole forum is rammed with it, just spend some time searching and reading.

[GoingEtheric]

Sounds like you're trying to convince someone ELSE. If so, good for you.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.html

Look around. Warninmg, prior knowledge, how did bush see the first plane hit, making it easy for enemy to attack, russia and israeli prior knowledge, etc.

[weaving spider]

Norad standing down. Golfer Payne Stewart's Lear Jet being surrounded by F-15's within 20 minutes of the notice of a problem by the FAA. On 9/11 you have 4 airliners wandering around the sky for an hour and a half. Some guy in a cave thousands of miles away did not make that happen.

[Biggs]

also good to look at is: -

http://www.physics911.net/

lots of hard evidence, low on conjecture

[1776blues]

Could someone please present to me, in a clear, concise and logical presentation of evidence, why the official conspiracy theory is inaccurate? (Note: Not evidence for an inside-job hypothesis, just evidence refuting the OCF.) Thank-you.

There are many sites that feature the 911 timeline. What it does is lays out 911 before and after, here is one site that I found and because of the amount of items I will not post the entire timeline. It is eye opening and should help you put into perspective what happened!

http://www.911timeline.net/

Note: this one does not lay out the before, at least at first glance it doesn't but I could be wrong however it does appear it deals with the day of 911. The one below is the one I was looking for:

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

Note: Take your time, there is a lot of stuff to take in and just so you know I faily new to this, 2 years, The more I read the more I find and according to this press release in 2005 by Judicial Watch, the FBI invoked exemption 6 under the Freedom of Information Act on behalf of bin Laden “which permits the government to withhold all information about U.S. persons in "personnel and medical files and similar files" when the disclosure of such information "would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy." (5 U.S.C. ? 552(b)(6) (2000))”

 http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050421172907693



 

 

 

[1776blues]

Could someone please present to me, in a clear, concise and logical presentation of evidence, why the official conspiracy theory is inaccurate? (Note: Not evidence for an inside-job hypothesis, just evidence refuting the OCF.) Thank-you.

I seems you are asking for someone to do the research for you, however I read an earlier post by you regarding the use of "inside job" by 911 truthers and you made the statement in the last paragraph below that people should be encouraged to conduct their own research. Why the sudden change?;

It seems that the predominate slogan and chant of the Truth movement has evolved to being, "9/11 was an Inside-Job." Though it is very direct, clear and precise, I contend that this slogan is ineffecient in promoting the message of 9/11 Truth and fruitless in the advocacy for an independent inquiry into the tragic crime of 9/11.

The "Inside-Job" slogan is emotionally stirring and highly confronting for many people who first encounter the message of 9/11 Truth. This is not constructive. Responding emotionally means that individuals are less likely to critically examine and evaluate the evidence. In some cases even, a negative emotional response results in profanity and abuse. This is not the approach the Truth movement should be taking as it is confronting, not inviting, and stirs such emotions as to even sometimes encourage aggressiveness, frustration and anger from individuals that may have otherwise been persuaded by rationality. 

In the auspices of reason we must make our statement. I suggest, therefore, that we do not open ourselves to bias and ridicule by stirring the emotions of the public with "Inside-Job" slogans, but rather, we change our tone to one of rationality, such as simply proclaiming: "Investigate 9/11" and "9/11 Truth Now." These statements invite less of an emotional response from the public and provide more leverage for intellectual interest to simply look into the subject matter.

We must proclaim the message of 9/11 Truth on the firm basis of reason, ever advocating for a new independent and fully transparent inquiry that abides by the principles of rational investigation. I am confident that this approach will be more effective and fruitful in presenting the message of 9/11 Truth to a more receptive public and that it will encourage individual's to conduct their own independent research and to simply search and seek for the truth.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=37926.msg166320#msg166320

Note: I have to say though this post by you was excellent. Yes saying inside job will almost immediately cause people to be defensive. I like to show friends Loose Change Final Cut, this gets their attention and turns on that lightbulb in their mind!

[purple-orange]

I seems you are asking for someone to do the research for you, however I read an earlier post by you regarding the use of "inside job" by 911 truthers and you made the statement in the last paragraph below that people should be encouraged to conduct their own research. Why the sudden change?;

I'm not asking for others to do the research for me in the full sense of that phrase, but rather for some assistance in directing me to reputable and good sources, and encouraging others to present what they have discovered in a sequential and logical format from which one could conduct further research and investigate deeper. I am thankful for the many informative sites that have been posted on here, particularly the Prison Planet 9/11 Archive which contains a whole host of articles on the subject, many even from mainstream sources, and for the Timeline and Physics 9/11 site.

[corbettreport]

Well, here's one pretty glaring problem with the official theory that adds up to something very important: Norman Mineta testified to the 9/11 Commission that Cheney was already in the Presidential Emergency Operations Center when he arrived there at 9:20, but the final report lists his time of arrival as 9:58.  This is crucial because Flight 77 hit the Pentagon at 9:37 and it makes a big difference whether Cheney was sitting in the PEOC listening to Flight 77 coming in as Mineta testified or whether he wasn't there at all.  Yet NO ONE in the corporate controlled media has ever brought up this incredible, glaring admission...until We Are Change Seattle went and asked Mineta about it himself...Mineta was surprised to hear that 9:58 had been put in the report, and then said he hadn't read it! This is the former Transportation Secretary!  Details here:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=41327.0

[lazarus]

I'm not asking for others to do the research for me in the full sense of that phrase, but rather for some assistance in directing me to reputable and good sources, and encouraging others to present what they have discovered in a sequential and logical format from which one could conduct further research and investigate deeper. I am thankful for the many informative sites that have been posted on here, particularly the Prison Planet 9/11 Archive which contains a whole host of articles on the subject, many even from mainstream sources, and for the Timeline and Physics 9/11 site.

purple, there is another way to approach 9/11. That is the hard way. Please bear with me for a few sentences. People do not have to look up the original research that showed bacteria cause pneumonia. They can understand it by 1) taking antibiotics when they get it or 2) not taking it, thereby getting sicker by the day. The same with 9/11. Are those in charge acting like they did 9/11 or at least hiding it? Test this out. Take a week and follow the news accepting the theory that they are guilty. The news will slowly make more sense. The longer we wait, the more it makes sense, the sicker we get.

[1776blues]

I'm not asking for others to do the research for me in the full sense of that phrase, but rather for some assistance in directing me to reputable and good sources, and encouraging others to present what they have discovered in a sequential and logical format from which one could conduct further research and investigate deeper. I am thankful for the many informative sites that have been posted on here, particularly the Prison Planet 9/11 Archive which contains a whole host of articles on the subject, many even from mainstream sources, and for the Timeline and Physics 9/11 site.

Sorry, it just appeared you were. Glad you appreciate the sites that were posted.

[TheGoodFight1984]

also go here for peer-reviewed journals of 9/11 studies - http://www.journalof911studies.com/index.html

[superfender]

I suggest watching Masters of Terror (Alex Jones' earlier film) its packed full of info, the production is not as great, and its mostly just alex speaking, but thats why its so informative, I had forgotten about some irrefutable facts, like this one,

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7752483415674202196&q=masters+of

any one remember this?  It was reported in mainstream news, but as usual the military (Government) said it was an "accident."  I suggest bringing this little factoid up to skeptical family members or friends that are in denial, because its A.  Completely admitted to and acknowledged by the U.S. military and B. it was reported in MAINSTREAM NEWS as Alex likes to repeat on air.  (for those who will only believe something if its on TV)

The ‘airlift of evil’ MSNBC

In the past week, a half dozen or more Pakistani air force cargo planes landed in the Taliban-held city of Kunduz and evacuated to Pakistan hundreds of non-Afghan soldiers who fought alongside the Taliban and even al-Qaida against the United States.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/664935.asp?0si=-Prior%20knowledge&cp1=1

I would also suggest checking out the GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT IN TERRORIST ATTACKS page at infowars.com, that details all of the documents/articles from prior knowledge to recent revelations, CIA terrorist training, white washing, ect.

http://www.infowars.com/resources.html