What Would Martial Law Be Like?

[JP Mitchell]

Alex,

If a major tragic terrorist event does occur and President Bush does enact martial law on major cities or throughout the entire country, what would happen exactly? How would the average American citizen's daily life be like or be affected?

Would it be a strict lockdown of house arrest or would be free to go to the grocery store to get necessary food items? What if my wife was a new mother and she had to get diapers and baby food for an infant? Would the military permit us to leave or what?

[The Constitutionalist]

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[thought_criminal]

 *I imagine* that it would be pandemonium. Rioting, looting, Americans killing Americans.
  I don't really see a situation where "a US nuke is used to stage terror, then swat teams run around
hauling people to FEMA camps. It would be a logistical nightmare, and as they rounded up more and more people they'd encounter exponential resistance.

  Why go to all that trouble... they could simply select the thousands/millions of people they wish to "keep" round up the people they select early on and/or before and ship *them* to FEMA camps.
  Then they release some terrible biological weapon... or even several. 

  It allows them to wipe out a large segment of the population while keeping the ones they want,
and lets "nature" do all the killing.  When the infections reach places like China, Africa, and the middle east their goals would really be accomplished. I imagine they'd use some thing(s) being *highly* contagious.
 
  Sometimes history isn't the best forecaster... Just because history repeats it's self doesn't mean something unprecedented can't occur... Look at these sick bastards and their goals, then look at all the nasty stuff (that we even know about!) they've cooked up in bioweapons labs. They have access to these things! They aren't stupid. If they really wish to slaughter most of the population they have a much easier way than "men in black skimasks with assault rifles and FEMA camps".
Ever heard of "occam's razor"...

AJ has lately been uncovering and exposing a great deal of eugenics as being a if not THE driving force...
 
 Also consider that the disease(s) released might cause those infected to become increasingly erratic, then perhaps totally nuts, and/or violent.  Helps ensure people don't/can't simply stay away from others and "ride out the storm" in thier homes. The infected wouldn't simply get sick and die, they'd cause havok first.... helping to spread infection. They might even offer police and military
a "inoculation" that protects them from the death part, but not the violent insanity so much.

[The Constitutionalist]

*I imagine* that it would be pandemonium. Rioting, looting, Americans killing Americans.
  I don't really see a situation where "a US nuke is used to stage terror, then swat teams run around
hauling people to FEMA camps. It would be a logistical nightmare, and as they rounded up more and more people they'd encounter exponential resistance.

You don't see the possibility of a dirty bomb being set off in the US and then a complete lock down? After we blame Iran of course.

Exponential resistance, eh?  Do you live in some sort of communal resistance group?  Do you expect your neighbors around you to not go along with martial law?

Keeping people in their homes is easy.  You don't think so?  Ever heard of chemical/tanker spills along railways/highways/interstates?  I have, and I have seen first hand how people, when told to stay in doors for their own well being, will do just that.

You put too much faith in those who would rather watch American Idol than read the Constitution.

[thought_criminal]

Mabie your thinking more along the lines of a North Korea style of government, with forced labor, etc
I'm thinking more along the lines of mass execution (Their stated goals)

You're saying staged dirty nuke then martial law then take people away to FEMA camps right? 

How many ppl can fit in those camps? less than or around a million or so? The only way this would work were if these were *death camps* similar to those run by the nazi's. This simply isn't a good way to exterminate a population. (Their stated goals) At some point the "swat teams" / "men in black skimasks" etc would realize that more people are going into the camps than can fit and hear rumors of extermination... you can't keep something like that a secret. Besides it would take too long!  We outnumber the cops like 400 to 1. Even if they spent all day every day rounding people up and shipping them to camps it would still take weeks, and yes people would get increasingly concerned and put up resistance, but not much from "sheeple" you're right.
 I'm saying the *minions* of the NWO, the pawns, would turn on them when they realize what's really going on finaly.  After spending all day "disappearing" people for "being terrorists" and then they find out their own brother was "disappeared", their own mother... they'd begin to see whats going on.

  I mean yeah I understand the idea of "men in black ski masks" etc etc...  but what you don't realize is that those imaginary swat team types are human beings at some level. Eventually they'd be ordered to do something they disagreed with and they'd wake up. Cops and military aren't "boogymen" and they aren't mindless killing machines (though one is hesitant to say that after learning that they don't allow cops who are "too smart")

  My point was that this is all basicly conjecture. You and others think you know what's going to happen to some degree. I'm saying that considering that these scumbags are into eugenics, and that they have access to deadly viruses...  wouldn't it be more *likely* they'd use the simplest easiest means to their end... one without pawns that would wake up and join growing resistance.

[Kregener]

There would a lot of guys on military uniforms toting military weapons riding around the streets in tanks and Humvees. If you were "out" beyond curfew, you would be either detained or shot.

This will work to some degree with U.S. troops, until the military guys finally start abandoning their posts to try and get home to see to their loved ones, THEN it will be all-out chaos and anarchy.

It will work with international troops, until the sniper attacks and guerrilla warfare tactics take too high a toll on their numbers.

If you get trapped in ANY large city by Martial Law, you are going to be in a world of hurt until things settle down a bit.

IMHO of course.

[JP Mitchell]

I live in an apartment complex and I was outside a few nights ago, when the news first broke about the clergy being trained for the potential martial law looming in the air. Well, I had this realization that it would be so easy for a military unit or operation to put people in apartments or condos on house arrest, prevent them from going anywhere at night, or whenever they didn't want them to go anywhere.

This is another reason I posed this question, cause it got me thinking. Thanks for all your responses so far.

[RWS]

What Would Martial Law Be Like?

 Well, lets see....
1st off, you can blow off ever getting a fair trial ever again. Under Martial Law, if your caught doing something they don't like, or are out after kerfew, they'll just shoot you where you stand, in most cases!
2nd, you will be told what you can or cannot do, when to do whatever it is they want you to do, the time you can come out of your home, and when you are to return to home, etc...you will be completely controlled!
3rd, When Martial Law gets implemented, all state borders will be shut down, and if your not in your home state, you will be stuck where you are. If they ever allow people to travel to other states again, you will continually be stopped at checkmarks, searched, and you had better have all your papers out, in order and ready for them to look at, or you will just be shot.
4th, whenever you are allowed to leave your home, there will be armed troops everywhere, and if you look at them wrong, or say anything they don't like, or take offence at, you can and will be shot!
5th, you will become a slave! Don't do what your told to do, and you will be shot dead!

This is just a small sampling of what Martial Law will be like and it will totally depend upon what orders the goons are given, but we already know, that it is the wish of the "Elitists" that 80-90% of the population needs to be killed off.

(Dripping with heavy Sarcasm)...Sounds wonderful doesn't it???

RWS

[Gator]

The problem is, who's going to enforce it ?  The Police ?  Fat chance, they know the truth too !  Some cops maybe over zealous, but they're not stupid ! 

"I command you: Take that Hill !"......."f**k you !" 

[RWS]

Just a few more points about what Martial Law would be like, and who will be around to enforce it....

 Another thing I should have mentioned in my original post about what it will be like under Martial Law, is the fact that if it gets implemented, all banks will be closed, thus any money you had in the banking system will get stolen out of your accounts by our Gov't. Our Gov't today already "freezes" accounts on a daily basis against people who they deem "Enemy Combatants", or whatever other term they use. Not only does our Gov't. do this against citizens of our own Country, but they have done it against whole countries, ie...Iraq, North Korea, and others, I'm sure.

 As far as who will be around to enforce Martial Law, we have heard stories for the last few years of increased sightings of UN Security Forces being seen all around our Country, training in our Country with our own forces, or of UN Vehicles here, there and everywhere.
 A very good friend of mine who is completely awake as far as how our Govt is corrupted, is a Nation Wide Trucker, and has been a trucker for most of his adult life. He is also a Vietnam Vet. He has military security clearances which allows him to transport "goods" to military bases all across America. I cannot  and will not ever give his name out here, because if I did, I would then fear for his safety.
 
 Over the past 6 years since 9/11, he has seen Convoys of UN marked vehicles and troops entering our Country on both coasts, and has passed 2-4 mile long convoys of said troops all across our nation. He has told me on several occassions, that he has also seen railroad transportation of these vehicles and troops all over as well, mostly at night. He has said to me, that he has seen APC's (Armored Personel Carriers), Humvee looking types of jeeps and tanks, all with UN markings and all with mounted guns.

 On one of his last deliveries, he was to take a load, to a "camp", and he had no idea what it was that his truck was loaded with. When he got to this "camp", he noticed that it was filled with vehicles all marked UN, and upon his trailer being unloaded, he found out what he had transported...138,000 body bags, to which he wondered why the hell any "camp" would need such a large number of body bags. His truck, was not the only truck there being unloaded that day. He said he counted at least 17 other trucks, all having the same load as his. If all this is true, and I have never ever heard this man, my friend lie about anything, then 18 X 138,000=2,484,000 body bags. This transport happened back in May of this year. He has since retired, but to this day when we talk, he always brings up this information and asks me why I think that a UN Base in our own Country would need that many body bags. My only answer to that, is that they know that something big is about to happen, and after that Martial Law will get implemented, and these UN Security Forces are here to do just that, be security against our own Citizens.
 
 Before I moved to a rural area, the local town in which I lived nearby has it's own Military Armory, that is manned by Army and Marine Forces. One day I travelled by the Armory to go visit a friend, and to my surprise, I saw several hundred vehicles with UN Markings parked in the lot. These vehicles included APC's, IFV's (Infantry Fighting Vehicals), Tanks, Jeeps, and vehicals that looked simular to Humvees.
 When I got home, I called my trucker friend and told him what I saw and where, to which he said, I'm not surprised, they are everywhere.

 I'm sorry to say, that I don't have any links to back up what I am saying here, and I wish that I did have the links so that others could understand the severity of this situation. I have done many a web search for finding UN Security Forces here in our Country, but have yet to find anything, except definitions of what APC's and IFV's are and how many types of these vehicles are in service world wide, including our own police forces, to which, here is a news article link... http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=109&STORY=/www/story/06-13-2004/0002192092&EDATE=

 Now, since most our fighting men and women of our armed forces are overseas, they will not be able to stand against Martial Law being conducted here against their own families here in the States. I personally believe that is why P. Bush wanted a bigger surge of troops into Iraq, so there will be even less of our own here, to resist whatever Bush and the Elitists have concocted and planned for us here in the States. I also think that alot of our Police Forces will be helping the UN Security Forces, in doing round-ups, except for a few of those that have awakened to whats really going on.

 Alex Jones on many occassions has talked about UN Forces here training with local military and police units, and included such in a few of his documentaries, like Martial Law 9-11, Rise of the Police State.

 I'm personally scared for my fellow man in what is coming, and I know in my heart and soul that something really bad is about to happen here in our own Country. I just wish that the whole populace of America would wake up yesterday, and stand up for what is right and good today!

RWS

[L2Design]

Truckers KNOW.

Can you please ask him to secretly video tape it. Its our only hope.

[alexjonespodcasts]

you know, worrying about what it will be like is the wrong question.  what do we do to keep from letting them execute martial law?  thats the question.

[HighSea]

From: http://members.tripod.com/~Sidlinger/ml.html

The following guide will help you plan, prepare, and get ready in the event that martial law threatens you safety and well being. It is divided into two parts. The first part describes the framework for martial law and the second part the actions to take in preparing or the actual declaration of martial law.

INTERESTING FACTS

Martial law is defined as: military rule or authority imposed on a civilian population when the civil authorities cannot maintain law and order, as in a time of war or during an emergency.
Hitler turned Germany into a Nazi dictatorship through executive orders.
Executive Order 10995: All communications media are to be seized by the Federal Government. Radio, TV, newspapers, CB, Ham, telephones, and the internet will be under federal control. Hence, the First Amendment will be suspended indefinitely.
Executive Order 10997: All electrical power, fuels, and all minerals well be seized by the federal government.
Executive Order 10998: All food resources, farms and farm equipment will be seized by the government. You will not be allowed to hoard food since this is regulated.
Executive Order 10999: All modes of transportation will go into government control. Any vehicle can be seized.
Executive Order 11000: All civilians can be used for work under federal supervision.
Executive Order 11490: Establishes presidential control over all US citizens, businesses, and churches in time of "emergency."
Executive Order 12919: Directs various Cabinet officials to be constantly ready to take over virtually all aspects of the US economy during a State of National Emergency at the direction of the president.
Executive Order 13010: Directs FEMA to take control over all government agencies in time of emergency. FEMA is under control of executive branch of the government.
Executive Order 12656: "ASSIGNMENT OF EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS RESPONSIBILITIES", "A national emergency is any occurrence, including natural disaster, military attack, technological emergency, or other emergency that seriously degrades or seriously threatens the national security of the United States. Policy for national security emergency preparedness shall be established by the President." This order includes federal takeover of all local law enforcement agencies, wage and price controls, prohibits you from moving assets in or out of the United States, creates a draft, controls all travel in and out of the United States, and much more.
Martial law can be declared due to natural disasters, Y2k Crisis, Stock Market crash, no electricity, riots, biological attack, .... anything leading to the breakdown of law and order.
 
SURVIVING MARTIAL LAW
 
Prepare before any declaration of martial law by becoming self reliant. You may become subject to a bureaucratic system and be prepared to stay one step ahead of it which is easy to do if you are prepared and in a position to be self reliant. You may also face mob rule, chaos, panic, or a complete breakdown in law and order. Surival situations may be easier to handle in rural areas than urban.
Avoid areas of marital law. Can be imposed due to natural disasters or man caused events. Important to have a retreat or place in a rural area away from populated areas.
Create alliances with like minded neighbors or community members that share your views. Team work and numbers may help your situation.
Become transparent in the sense that you do not draw attention to yourself or your family. For instance, do not tell people that you are storing food just store food. Be prepared to render assistance to neighbors if need be. You never know when you will need them.
Remain calm! Do not panic.
Avoid areas of civil unrest if possible. If caught in civil unrest take appropriate action.
Get informed and stay informed. Understand martial law can be a temporary crisis or an extended one. In extreme cases the shape of a whole nation can change.
Declaration of martial law means your rights are suspended and it is government by decree. Your constitutional rights may no longer apply. This could mean a state of National Emergency.
People can be arrested and imprisoned indefinitely without charges.
Freedom of speech and freedom of assembly can be suspended, and censorship of the media imposed.
Gun ownership will also come under severe attack during marital law. We could see house to house searches by the military or National Guard looking for guns and seizing any they find along with stored food.
Take a stand on issues and make a choice that fits your beliefs and the situation. Do you believe as Patrick Henry, "Give me liberty or give me death?" Realize you may have some hard choices to make. Understand you may have to sacrifice your principles on trivial matters or take a hard stand. Always remember that you may have to come back and fight another day.

We need to expose the UN forces stationed in America. We also need to be able to destroy these foreign UN troops with extreme predjudice.

[shirteesdotnet]

He said he counted at least 17 other trucks, all having the same load as his. If all this is true, and I have never ever heard this man, my friend lie about anything, then 18 X 138,000=2,484,000 body bags. This transport happened back in May of this year.

Man, Im just shaking my head at this. The only reason why they would need THAT many body bags would be a nuclear strike on us. Not a plane hitting a building, not a suitcase nuke... a real nuke. Im near Los Angeles, so I'll start working on my eulogy now.

[shirteesdotnet]

SURVIVING MARTIAL LAW
 
Avoid areas of marital law.

Amen to that!!! Haha. (typo or not? )

Create alliances with like minded neighbors or community members that share your views. Team work and numbers may help your situation. Become transparent in the sense that you do not draw attention to yourself or your family. For instance, do not tell people that you are storing food just store food. Be prepared to render assistance to neighbors if need be. You never know when you will need them.
Remain calm! Do not panic.

This IMO is the best advice. Id like to live a long time. Id like to have children soon and see them grow. I want to get old with my wife. The world is an interesting place and I want to remain here as long as possible. My dad survived WWII by laying low, sometimes mingling with the enemy when need be. He traded butter to the Americans for cigarettes, then sold the cigs to Germans and Russians. He had to walk 30-40 miles to move to the next city when Germans walked through his city in Poland. He remembers as a Polish boy scout, hiding in a church for a month, and having his scout leaders chop off their fingers to give to kids for food. In tough times you do what you got to do. My dad said he stayed as low as possible, off the radar sort of speak, and traveled when he needed to, gave food to people in the camps when he could, traded on the black market when he needed supplies, then when people got organized in Poland he joined the underground army and transported documents across the german border. He was shot twice on different occasions when crossing the borders. Not bad for a 10 year old.

[mtngirl1013]

Man, Im just shaking my head at this. The only reason why they would need THAT many body bags would be a nuclear strike on us. Not a plane hitting a building, not a suitcase nuke... a real nuke. Im near Los Angeles, so I'll start working on my eulogy now.

Or for the camps?

[uwaf]

HELL

[7stringking]

I think they are just gonna shut down all of our power, gas, and communications...and put armed forces at the food stores......then they will get most people to comply...there will be so few left to resist, they might not bother much with them, just kill them at will....yuck yuck, goot times ahead(sigh)

[realtalk]

Stop thinking like this! its like you have given up and they already won. Focus more on prevention of these circumstances. Organize Organize Organize! We have high numbers of free-minded people. One voice can be powerful but millions of voices united. All things are possible!

[RWS]

How do you suppose we are going to prevent it? Organize all you want! Is it really doing anything to stop their plans? March, protest, yell out I'm not gonna take it anymore, yet they keep on doing what they are doing, all the while chuckling at our peaceful attempts to stop them from doing what they want to do!

 Infowars huh? All I see this infowar achieving, is waking up more people, and after that, then what? They stand around wondering how we are gonna truely stop them.
 Oh, yeah, post those signs, that'll stop em dead in their tracks....NOT!
Ooooo, call em up, and tell em we are on to their game...and then they hang up, laughing.
 Call for Bush & Cheney to be Impeached....and Bush & Co passes more legislation stopping ppl from protesting legally. Yeah, that's working.
 Hmmmm, what else.....hmmmmm, oh I know, get video of everything they are doing, and post it on youtube and google video, where they will just delete it, censor it, or put it so low on the ranks that no one will ever see it.
 Digg it, and watch it get deleted!
Hmmmm, that might just work!
 Oooo, Oooo, Ooooo, I know, we'll just wait for Jesus to come back, and let him fix it! Yeah, uh huh, good times at Armageddon High!

 So, how are we gonna prevent it? Any suggestions, besides what we are all doing already, which isn't getting anything accomplished?

 Come on ppl, THINK!

RWS

[L2Design]

Cheer up charlie!

Time to call a friend just to say hi.
Chillax

One person at a time if need be. We'll get the job done!

--L (NO FEAR)

[Salem]

REVELATION'S 14:16-14:18
and he causeth all both small and great rich and poor free and bond to recieve a mark in there right hand or in there forheads
and that no man might buy or sell save he that had the mark or the name of the beast or the number of his name
here is wisdom let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast for it is the number of a man and his number is six hundred three score and six [direct bible qoute no punctuation]

[scott-rfno]

How do you suppose we are going to prevent it? Organize all you want! Is it really doing anything to stop their plans? March, protest, yell out I'm not gonna take it anymore, yet they keep on doing what they are doing, all the while chuckling at our peaceful attempts to stop them from doing what they want to do!

 Infowars huh? All I see this infowar achieving, is waking up more people, and after that, then what? They stand around wondering how we are gonna truely stop them.
 Oh, yeah, post those signs, that'll stop em dead in their tracks....NOT!
Ooooo, call em up, and tell em we are on to their game...and then they hang up, laughing.
 Call for Bush & Cheney to be Impeached....and Bush & Co passes more legislation stopping ppl from protesting legally. Yeah, that's working.
 Hmmmm, what else.....hmmmmm, oh I know, get video of everything they are doing, and post it on youtube and google video, where they will just delete it, censor it, or put it so low on the ranks that no one will ever see it.
 Digg it, and watch it get deleted!
Hmmmm, that might just work!
 Oooo, Oooo, Ooooo, I know, we'll just wait for Jesus to come back, and let him fix it! Yeah, uh huh, good times at Armageddon High!

 So, how are we gonna prevent it? Any suggestions, besides what we are all doing already, which isn't getting anything accomplished?

 Come on ppl, THINK!

RWS

That's exactly what I've been asking! I've shown people the videos and the documents and they are mad as hell and don't want to take it anymore... so, now what?

[Joe(WI)]

read my Katrina aftermath post
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=4182.0

Sick of this indeed.

[Octavian]

UN Security Forcers – Yeah right, they left Iraq and every other hot zone around the world and all we have to do is use terrorist tactics you form militias you find ex-marines, naval, army and find weaponry which is going to be easy in this country to do.  They might try and force martial law though it will be in pockets and in large cities and it will be up to rural America and small towns like it was when the republic was founded.

My suggestion to train with tactics and such would be while storing guns and other weaponry would be to use paint balling to practice military tactics in a controlled area, you find ex military to start training you many of my ex marines we all live around each other and we go shooting, paint balling and more.

Also, how are they going to try and control the entire population with UN security forces they don’t have that many forces to begin with and let alone enough to take control of a population of 300 million I doubt it. Look at there pathetic past history for them to try and control populations once you use tactics against them. Look at Bosnia, Iraq, Afghanistan and mean the list goes on the UN is a pathetic organization.

[joebogarde]

First step internet goes down.
2nd step Police begin to arrest people intelligence service have documented or photographed at events like at 2004 NYC RNC protests.
Domestic spying is used to make lists of protestors, truthers etc, profiling is used to arrest the most likely to cause trouble first off.
Special forces from the us, and around the world will take out opposition in the US.
The mainstream masses will be rounded up into camps.
Remember the news story though, the other day; 90 guns per 100 people. Large veteran population, largest supply of guns in the world umm.
Martial law would be a bad idea, so they will do it incrementally until they fabricate justification to do otherwise.

[OWN-the-NWO]

well they'd declare it, the troops would hit the streets going after the red listed and blue listed citzens first.  the militias would take up arms, there would probably be insurrections within the military itself as well. ect ect.

[Octavian]

First step internet goes down.
2nd step Police begin to arrest people intelligence service have documented or photographed at events like at 2004 NYC RNC protests.
Domestic spying is used to make lists of protestors, truthers etc, profiling is used to arrest the most likely to cause trouble first off.

Like they aren't or haven't already gone down this route and getting ready so they don't have to do it after the fact.

[Octavian]

well they'd declare it, the troops would hit the streets going after the red listed and blue listed citzens first.  the militias would take up arms, there would probably be insurrections within the military itself as well. ect ect.

Yup, those red and blue lists would be the first they would after and are the ones that are a direct threat to there ideas and motives. Iam an Ex-Marine and only been out for a few years and ill take up arms.

[EthanAllen_TruthNet Radio]

What would martial law be like?

Rather UN-pleasant. 

[kindcop]

What would martial law be like?

Rather UN-pleasant. 

Let me tell you why martial law will work in this country.... People are going to demand it. The soldiers will feel like they're doing the right thing and bringing stability to an unstable nation. By allowing in all the illegals, by offshoring American jobs, by reducing American freedoms, by putting us in quagmires all around the world, by allowing illegals to bring in drugs weapons and god forbid wmds, theyre creating conditions in which one day when theyre ready will lead to riots, chaos in the streets, terrorist events all across the nation, etc. The average American will see martial law as the necessary evil to bring back his somewhat comfortable lifestyle of watchin ballgames on the weekend, and having a somewhat full belly for the most part. The soldiers will be brought home from Iraq and wherever else to help quell the problem and you best believe theyll be so happy to be out of that shithole theyll want to come home even if its not the same America they lived in before they left. When the militias and patriots rise up to the tyranny and the situation seems to be getting out of control again you'll see the spin doctors all over TV like Bill O'reilly telling people what a great idea it would be to bring foreign troops into this country to help us keep order. Then the American people will demand we bring in foreign troops who are so willing to help us in our time of need. And our wonderful president at that time will give the people what they ask for and there you go. Neighbor will be spying on neighbor, family turning in family and all of our freedoms will be down the crapper. It's going to happen regardless of what we do. They create the problem to offier the solution. Theyre not going to shove the martial law down our throats, theyre going to make us want it.

[HighSea]

Yup, those red and blue lists would be the first they would after and are the ones that are a direct threat to there ideas and motives. Iam an Ex-Marine and only been out for a few years and ill take up arms.

Me too. Having said that, welcome to the list, Octavian.  *pat's O on the back*