New Saturday Night CNN Piece? – Palfrey and Prisonplanet

[orangeblue]

Did anyone record the CNN segment that aired from about 10:45 p.m. – 10:50 p.m. Eastern on Saturday, May 10?  They mentioned Alex, Infowars and Prisonplanet regarding the “conspiracy theories” about her alleged suicide.

They had a CNN crime expert on that said it was definitely a suicide.  Moldea was also on live and said Jeane first had an unsuccessful suicide attempt by overdose in Orlando before driving down to her mother's home.  He also stated she would kill herself three different times to him.

I hope someone grabbed this one and will post it on YouTube soon if it is a new clip.

[darsie]

Did anyone record the CNN segment that aired from about 10:45 p.m. – 10:50 p.m. Eastern on Saturday, May 10?  They mentioned Alex, Infowars and Prisonplanet regarding the “conspiracy theories” about her alleged suicide.

They had a CNN crime expert on that said it was definitely a suicide.  Moldea was also on live and said Jeane first had an unsuccessful suicide attempt by overdose in Orlando before driving down to her mother's home.  He also stated she would kill herself three different times to him.

I hope someone grabbed this one and will post it on YouTube soon if it is a new clip.

Thanks for the info orangeblue - let's hope someone got it on disc -

Dan Moldea is not a believable or credible source. Funny how the MSM always use his 'testimony' - and his 'testimony' only!

[larsonstdoc]

    CNN- Communist News Network.  As soon as I heard this I knew the government did this.  Joe 6 pack doesn't even watch any kind of news!

[A K]

RIGHT NOW.

[A K]

They did play Palfrey saying "I will not commit suicide," but they dismissed it and are relying on what Dan Moldea says she said, rather than what we KNOW she said.  They dismiss the handwriting issues and don't mention the "penniless" nonsense.  They are NOT talking about the fact that her guidelines called for about 5 years and the judge could have given less.

Now they interviewing Moldea and he is saying - totally unsubstatiated - she tried to OD before.

A hit piece, one sided job.

[pac522]

OMFG, Moldea says she had tried to kill herself by overdose in Tampa right after the conviction, but failed, so she drove all the way to Tarpon Springs to hang herself, (with all her business files)? Is something not farked up with this statement?

[Dig]

please post it whenever possible.  thanks for the heads up.

[A K]

I wasn't quick enough, I didn't tape it.  Did anyone tape it?

[Dig]

They did play Palfrey saying "I will not commit suicide," but they dismissed it and are relying on what Dan Moldea says she said, rather than what we KNOW she said.  They dismiss the handwriting issues and don't mention the "penniless" nonsense.  They are NOT talking about the fact that her guidelines called for about 5 years and the judge could have given less.

Now they interviewing Moldea and he is saying - totally unsubstatiated - she tried to OD before.

A hit piece, one sided job.

and the rats come out of the closet.  the questions to be asked are "why does CNN force only one theory?"  and "why is CNN the judge, jury, and executioner of such an important investigation."

This is why 50% of America believes the so called official 911 theory when even the FBI, the 911 commission, and now NIST cannot present a true theory of what happened.  CNN is becoming an instrument of oppression and when they cover up truth like with that piece, it becomes more and more onvious.

[A K]

One of the biggest things rarely mentioned is that her sentence date wasn't until July 24th, and then (I am a lawyer and have done a few federal cases) in the federal sysytem you get a report date to prison usually set about two months or more after your sentence date.  So she was looking at prison starting maybe September 1st or so.  So she had almsot, what, FIVE MONTHS of freedom?  She could also file an appeal and a motion to remain free on bond during appeal.  If the judge thought she had even potentially viable issues on appeal, the motion could be granted and she would remain free for the up to TWO YEARS that a major federal appeal can take.  

Think about that.  Larry Flynt, who talked to her many times and supported her, said that she had a lot of Democrats, Clinton people and Bush critics who were clients, and in part because she felt the Bush machine was targeting her, she made a deliberate choice not to release the names of any of these people.  In fact, she told Flynt that one of the reasons they kept going after her so hard is because she both refused a plea bargain and refused to release the names of Democrats and Bush critics.  In 2010 there is a better than 50/50 chance a Democrat will be in the White House and in control of the Justice Department.  Palfrey had every reason to try to wait this out in hopes of a pardon, commutation or quiet back room deal.  She also could have leaked more names, signed a book deal, fled the country.  So much time, so many options.  Strange to give it all up, and at her mothers house of all places.

I don't rule out suicide - certainly we can understand she could be depressed.  But why did her mother and all those around her (except Moldea who hadn't seen her in months) say that she was NOT overly depressed and that they saw no signs of suicide?  

In any event the CNN piece, while getting the AJ websites out there and making a couple of valid points, was very one sided and shallow.

[John Galt]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8212850510644752303&q=DC+Madam&ei=a5QmSK2qLZOEqgOU2My4CQ

Prisonplanet.com first up, front and center!

[IridiumKEPfactor]

The POS doing the hit piece got his add handed to him when Benazir Bhutto got killed. He said that there were "Conspiracy theorists" going around saying that it was organized hit. He also said that we should believe the government when they said that she died when she hit her head.

Then the next day the video came out that challenged those claims. This guy is a POS.

[IridiumKEPfactor]

Also when they air the AJ clip on CNN the text says that it aired in July 2007 when in fact it was March 2008.


What a bunch for liars.

NWO minion incompetent debunker.

Washed up hack that can't keep his own show on the network because of poor ratings. Give it up buddy. Nobody likes you.

[Beefcake]

Moldea that scumbag said that Palfrey had tried to kill herself earlier with pills!!!  Is this true?  If it is can it be corroborated?  If it isn't its a pretty audacious lie on his part and i think that we need to find out the truth to this.  Moldea said "I'm breaking news tonight" ooo ya right on Rick Sanchez great place to break the massive news that this was now a second attempt at suicide even though the first attempt has never been mentioned before EVA!!

If this turns out to be false i will literally be speechless. 

[Dig]

first half is only moderately biased.


second half is so full of lying liars it makes me want to puke.  All the rats coming out to feast on the blood of their most recent victim.

[darsie]

One of the biggest things rarely mentioned is that her sentence date wasn't until July 24th, and then (I am a lawyer and have done a few federal cases) in the federal sysytem you get a report date to prison usually set about two months or more after your sentence date.  So she was looking at prison starting maybe September 1st or so.  So she had almsot, what, FIVE MONTHS of freedom?  She could also file an appeal and a motion to remain free on bond during appeal.  If the judge thought she had even potentially viable issues on appeal, the motion could be granted and she would remain free for the up to TWO YEARS that a major federal appeal can take.  

Think about that.  Larry Flynt, who talked to her many times and supported her, said that she had a lot of Democrats, Clinton people and Bush critics who were clients, and in part because she felt the Bush machine was targeting her, she made a deliberate choice not to release the names of any of these people.  In fact, she told Flynt that one of the reasons they kept going after her so hard is because she both refused a plea bargain and refused to release the names of Democrats and Bush critics.  In 2010 there is a better than 50/50 chance a Democrat will be in the White House and in control of the Justice Department.  Palfrey had every reason to try to wait this out in hopes of a pardon, commutation or quiet back room deal.  She also could have leaked more names, signed a book deal, fled the country.  So much time, so many options.  Strange to give it all up, and at her mothers house of all places.

I don't rule out suicide - certainly we can understand she could be depressed.  But why did her mother and all those around her (except Moldea who hadn't seen her in months) say that she was NOT overly depressed and that they saw no signs of suicide?  

In any event the CNN piece, while getting the AJ websites out there and making a couple of valid points, was very one sided and shallow.

A K - good info.

Gary Talis - WeAreChange - I believe is still looking for legal representation:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2008/042408_nypost_smears.htm

We Are Change are asking civil rights attorneys to contact them at pursuitofliberty@gmail.com to offer help.

[DCUBED]

If she tried to kill herself with pills first it should show up in the autopsy.  But I wouldn't really trust the autopsy that much. 

Covering up for murder is lowest of the low. 

I hope CNN knows that we are taking names. 

[darsie]

first half is only moderately biased.


second half is so full of lying liars it makes me want to puke.  All the rats coming out to feast on the blood of their most recent victim.

This aside - this CNN piece was a fantastic plug for prisonplanet.com and infowars.com.

You're right sane - the first half was fairly neutral - with two reports flashing up on the screen. The first reading PALFREY THOUGHT SHE WAS BEING FOLLOWED and the second reading POWERFUL PEOPLE WANTED HER SILENT

Josh Levs (CNN) also looked at the statistics for suicide by suffocation for both males and females and admitted that only 20% of females commit suicide this way compared to 23% for males. The statistics were shown on the screen.

The hand writing analysis of the capital N in Need was then mentioned - and the capital N in one of the suicide notes was compared to a previous sample of her writing. A glaring difference in style. INCONTROVERTIBLE EVIDENCE

The Alex Jones radio interview with Palfrey was replayed but as was mentioned earlier - it was recorded in March of this year and not July of last year which was captioned on the screen. BIG BIG ERROR!

Mike Brooks - the CNN security analyst - then opined that he thought she definitely suicided herself and these claims were then backed up by Dan Moldea who disclosed that shortly before her death she had attempted suicide by overdosing on two occasions. Again only his word for this. There is no other evidence of this. His previous testimony in other cases has previously been shown to be false. All a load of crap!

Great exposure for Alex again on a main network.

[Dig]

This aside - this CNN piece was a fantastic plug for prisonplanet.com and infowars.com.

The plugs were totally awesome.

[Dig]

   
CNN Hit Piece Attempts To Debunk Palfrey Murder
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/may2008/110508CNN.htm
Youtube
Sunday, May 11, 2008

CNN mentions Alex, Infowars and Prisonplanet regarding the “conspiracy theories” about the alleged suicide of the DC Madam.

They had a CNN crime expert on that said it was definitely a suicide. Moldea was also on live and said Jeane first had an unsuccessful suicide attempt by overdose in Orlando before driving down to her mother's home. He also stated she would kill herself three different times to him.

[Kilika]

Yeah, no question the guy is a hack. If he had such breaking news on her, why did he go on somebodies show and "release it" there? That kind of info could be part of an investigation, and should be reported to the authorities. Did he go the police before his little "breaking news" interview? Doubt it. If such breaking news, he should have at least called a press conference to announce what he knew. Instead he's grandstanding, and seems to be seeking attention to himself rather than the truth, at the expense of a dead woman!

Pure scum.

[pac522]

I'm just having a hard time with the in your face bullshit. Alex Jones is on Geraldo saying that most women kill themselves with pills and now the spook who everyone is reporting on as news all of a sudden has a revelation that not only did Palfrey say she was going to kill herself and did but that she tried to do it with pills and failed. How does the  DC Madam try to commit suicide, fail and it not make the news?

[darsie]

Actually when you carefully evaluate this CNN piece - it isn't as one-sided as you might imagine. The piece was basically - timewise - divided into two halves - the first detailing the evidence to suggest she was murdered - and the second refuting those claims.

It's a pity - but not at all surprising - it wasn't the other way round - with Alex and Mike - say for example - being the invited guests - let's imagine - being allowed the opportunity to destroy the 'she really did commit suicide afterall theory" in the last half of the show.

Another thing - it appears that Alex - and PP and infowars - are now inescapably - unavoidably - and forever associated and linked with the Deborah Jeanne Palfrey case. This can only be good news for Alex and his sites.

Corporations pay a fortune for advertising like this.

[darsie]

I'm just having a hard time with the in your face bullshit. Alex Jones is on Geraldo saying that most women kill themselves with pills and now the spook who everyone is reporting on as news all of a sudden has a revelation that not only did Palfrey say she was going to kill herself and did but that she tried to do it with pills and failed. How does the  DC Madam try to commit suicide, fail and it not make the news?

Good point pac522 - ask Moldea - 'he knows everything'!   

[smokecheck]

 Why were there 2 suicide notes?  OOps-they forget to mention that.  Also, the talking head points to suffocation as if it were hanging. What about the fact , Jean had said if she were suicided, that it wasn't and it would be murder. Oops , forgot that too. What about someone  getting her phone records. I'm sure there is much incriminating info there. Oops, another case of people above the law. I guess the recording of all phone calls and such is worthless, if it is going to be used selectively. I guess we can get rid of all the wire tapping and put those tax dollars to better use.

  Let's get Jack Mclamb to investigate this.

[Damascus]

I'd really like to see the numbers for HANGING individually and not the larger category of suffocation. Suffocation covers drowning, gas, and other means. These other methods are much less disfiguring then hanging. This I feel skews the numbers for hanging by including other more favorable death statistics to make the numbers more even.

CNN is one reason why I don't watch TV anymore. Punching the TV is somewhat dangerous . Which is more scummly the scum that spew the lies or the ones that believe and defend the lies?

[username]

prisonplanet....a blog??

[Kaybowser]

Saw that last night glad someone captured that.
Moldea setting an alibi?
I wonder if he is going to do a book?

I'd get a hold of that attorney to find out if Moldea is somewhat truthful.
Kind of odd this guy breaks more suicide news.

[darsie]

Why were there 2 suicide notes?  OOps-they forget to mention that.  Also, the talking head points to suffocation as if it were hanging. What about the fact , Jean had said if she were suicided, that it wasn't and it would be murder. Oops , forgot that too. What about someone  getting her phone records. I'm sure there is much incriminating info there. Oops, another case of people above the law. I guess the recording of all phone calls and such is worthless, if it is going to be used selectively. I guess we can get rid of all the wire tapping and put those tax dollars to better use.

  Let's get Jack Mclamb to investigate this.

Suffocation is a catch-all phrase. It doesn't necessarily mean hanging. Sticking your head in a gas oven - or taping a plastic bag around your neck would also be classified as suffocation.

You're right - there were a lot of glaring omissions in this CNN piece.

Also - as you mention - there has been no mention of a court order subpoenaing her last phone calls. Her lawyer appears to have disappeared into the woodwork!

[IridiumKEPfactor]

The plugs were totally awesome.

Bitter sweet piece it was. One thing that these hack should know is that the facts and TRUTH reign supreme.

There were probably thousands of people who logged on to infowars and prison planet that got a rude dose of the truth. CNN may have just lie and told some sheeple to go back to sleep but even more people have waken up.

[darsie]

I'd really like to see the numbers for HANGING individually and not the larger category of suffocation. Suffocation covers drowning, gas, and other means. These other methods are much less disfiguring then hanging. This I feel skews the numbers for hanging by including other more favorable death statistics to make the numbers more even.

CNN is one reason why I don't watch TV anymore. Punching the TV is somewhat dangerous . Which is more scummly the scum that spew the lies or the ones that believe and defend the lies?

Seconded.

[Rock]

I would like to see the facts and percentages on how many women hang themselves in their mothers shed - so that when mom goes to cut the grass she will find a treasure?


Rock

[darsie]

I would like to see the facts and percentages on how many women hang themselves in their mothers shed - so that when mom goes to cut the grass she will find a treasure?


Rock

Rock - we could go further - what's the percentage of women who hang themselves in their mother's shed - repeatedly claim on nationally heard talk shows that they will never commit suicide - pay up all their personal bills six years in advance - hold incredibly incriminating evidence against top politicians - and take the trouble to move their personal possessions to their mothers house immediately prior to their deaths?

[smokecheck]

Rock - we could go further - what's the percentage of women who hang themselves in their mother's shed - repeatedly claim on nationally heard talk shows that they will never commit suicide - pay up all their personal bills six years in advance - hold incredibly incriminating evidence against top politicians - and take the trouble to move their personal possessions to their mothers house immediately prior to their deaths?

 Exactly

[darsie]

prisonplanet....a blog??

Yes - that got 'raised eyebrows' from me too.

[KrullTheWarrior]

Liars, Every one of them......Moldea is a Liar, you can tell by the look on his face. All of this is no mystery. She was gonna spill about Cheney liking little boys or girls and probably Bush and many others doing unspeakable things that would make the american people want them OUT! Hell, They already have done that....But who can remove them? They run our military, OWN it...They OWN us, our money, laws they make at will to suit them and screw us, it's totally unbelievable!!! WHAT ARE "WE" gonna do???  I'm 40, just turned 40 ....and I have nothing and I don't think I want anything. Let me know where the fight is, any militia's out there need some cannon fodder? I'll go front line, because I don't even want to be here anymore, they can have it all.......I need to join a Militia, I need an app......somebody get with me...............PLEASE!!   

[awoken in strife]

     My stomach is in knots. I too am turning 40. I have been into the federal belly of the beast. Even there you will find addicts and alcoholics while incarcerated.
   They threw me away even though I had cleaned my life up on my own without fear of trouble. I was a mentor,-- helping kids. Didnt matter. But, I rose above. i made it through. My awesome wife of 17 yrs. has stayed with me true through thick and thin. God bless her.
   I still work my arse off asking my body to work like I am still 20. Maybe one day I will be able afford my needed back surgery. wahh wahh, sorry,- Anyway!
  Anyway, My point is, I feel for Palfrey. It pains me what she was going through. I don't think she killed herself but I do know you have those thoughts when facing incarceration. But someone like myself, Dismissed those thoughts for my loved ones didn't deserve to suffer anymore than they were. i could never do that to them. I'm sure she had the same thoughts but wouldnt do that to her loved ones.If even her lawyer says she said she would kill herself. It was out of fear. Like,- Please get me out of this!
     God Bless her. I hope she is at peace!!

[aussiegirl]

Liars, Every one of them......Moldea is a Liar, you can tell by the look on his face.

I also thought this Moldea guy was very very nervous, you can almost see a nervous twitch about to appear on his face in the end. Closes his eyes instead, as if he's relieved the interview is over, because it's not easy lying on national television is it?

The whole CNN piece made me sick.

So, this CNN piece will make all the dumbed down people think Palfrey killed herself.

The brainwashing propaganda now, by our Govt's (yours and ours) is so blatantly obvious.

[superfender]

Just to get it straight, none of you on this forum accuse that guy (friend of Palfrey) that came on and claimed that she admitted she would kill herself and that she "wasn't going to prison", of being "in on it", in terms of the conspiracy right?

[superfender]

They did play Palfrey saying "I will not commit suicide," but they dismissed it and are relying on what Dan Moldea says she said, rather than what we KNOW she said.  They dismiss the handwriting issues and don't mention the "penniless" nonsense.  They are NOT talking about the fact that her guidelines called for about 5 years and the judge could have given less.

Now they interviewing Moldea and he is saying - totally unsubstatiated - she tried to OD before.

A hit piece, one sided job.

I don't agree that this Moldea guy is in on anything (if anyone is suggesting that), but I think its very unfair and balanced that CNN would only allow one side of the argument, and they also used the classic debunking tactic that the History Channel 911 hit piece did, when they only discussed the least powerful aspects/theories, and didn't even try to debunk the irrefutable facts.

I'll also say, even if Palfrey was suicidal, she could've still been murdered.