How 80% of the Population will be eradicated ...

[Novus Ordo]

I wish they would hurry up tbh

[EthanAllen_TruthNet Radio]

I can only surmise after this brief foray into this forum that people who believe all this crap are loner social losers who derive some sense of camaraderie sharing all this "information" with each other as a substitute for normal social interaction. I'm out of here.

HaHa!!! That's a good one. Normal social interaction. Hope no one actually tries that in public, especially in 21st century America. A quick trip to the mall will prove my point. Hundreds of flouride filled, dumbed down kids and teens, marching around like zombies plugged into cell phones and ipods, oblivious to everything around them. Another quick trip to the typical college campus will show thousands drinking themselves into AA clinics and loaning their very souls out in return for tuition and 3 square meals a day at taco bell. Or you could try and mingle at a yuppie dinner party where you'll see some of the most self absorbed idiots bashing their egos into each other like bumper cars.  Hell, we don't need reality shows to show us how far gone we are.

There hasn't been 'normal' social interaction in America for going on 50 years, if ever. If zapping your brain with radio waves with your cell phone, poisoning your own system with flouride water, and allowing credit card companies to turn you into a debted slave - and on top of it sharing all of that pain and misery with your fellow zombies - is NORMAL, well count me in with those paranoid loonies in the tinfoil hats, brother.

[Geolibertarian]

HaHa!!! That's a good one. Normal social interaction. Hope no one actually tries that in public, especially in 21st century America. A quick trip to the mall will prove my point. Hundreds of flouride filled, dumbed down kids and teens, marching around like zombies plugged into cell phones and ipods, oblivious to everything around them. Another quick trip to the typical college campus will show thousands drinking themselves into AA clinics and loaning their very souls out in return for tuition and 3 square meals a day at taco bell. Or you could try and mingle at a yuppie dinner party where you'll see some of the most self absorbed idiots bashing their egos into each other like bumper cars.  Hell, we don't need reality shows to show us how far gone we are.

There hasn't been 'normal' social interaction in America for going on 50 years, if ever. If zapping your brain with radio waves with your cell phone, poisoning your own system with flouride water, and allowing credit card companies to turn you into a debted slave - and on top of it sharing all of that pain and misery with your fellow zombies - is NORMAL, well count me in with those paranoid loonies in the tinfoil hats, brother.

Excellent post.

[Geolibertarian]

Normal social interaction. Hope no one actually tries that in public, especially in 21st century America. A quick trip to the mall will prove my point. Hundreds of flouride filled, dumbed down kids and teens, marching around like zombies plugged into cell phones and ipods, oblivious to everything around them.

Check out this cover of a commonly used textook on sociology (of all things):



Do you see the laughable irony of that image?

Sociology is supposedly the study of "human interaction," yet the above picture shows the exact opposite going on -- with each person lost in his or her own little world, even though there are people sitting right beside them.

[Freeski]

Have fun in your world of delusion and paranoia. I can only surmise after this brief foray into this forum that people who believe all this crap are loner social losers who derive some sense of camaraderie sharing all this "information" with each other as a substitute for normal social interaction. I'm out of here.

So you think all of us believe everything you think we believe, and on the other side, you believe none of it? Not even the fact that politicians are liars?

Stange world you live in there... like the poster above me says: "enjoy the bliss!"

[aliveinchrist]

Check out this cover of a commonly used textook on sociology (of all things):



Do you see the laughable irony of that image?

Sociology is supposedly the study of "human interaction," yet the above picture shows the exact opposite going on -- with each person lost in his or her own little world, even though there are people sitting right beside them.

This is a sad commentary on our society,  as people are more and more interacting only through some electronic medium.  These things scramble your brain so you can't think (not even considering the other hazards).  I find that extensive use of the computer, tv and cell phone really hinder my ability to think.   That's my own experience.  I have to watch how much time I spend on this forum, another electronic interaction medium.

[Geolibertarian]

This is a sad commentary on our society, as people are more and more interacting only through some electronic medium.

Agreed.

[EthanAllen_TruthNet Radio]

And all of that interaction with technology is exactly what the transhumanists meant to inject into society as a means of changing society towards the goal of merging of biological and technological attributes to form the 'perfect human'.

The goal being this...



Now, how in f**k is that normal?! Tell me how it's normal to allow a small group of creepy old wrinkled elitists to change the world and put us all into little matrix tubes, turn us all into batteries on the electronic plantation, all so they can put themselves into computers and explore the universe with no limitations. Is that normal? Oh, that's right, just another theory. Seems their little theories are working out pretty well in real time execution. The world is their laboratory.

And we retain our role of being no more than lab rats because fools out there in the world play and sing and dance in the great theater called life. It is true, we are doomed for lack of knowledge.

[phigsy]

Have fun in your world of delusion and paranoia.

OK. Back at you.

I can only surmise after this brief foray into this forum that people who believe all this crap are loner social losers who derive some sense of camaraderie sharing all this "information" with each other as a substitute for normal social interaction. I'm out of here.

True that. Camaraderie is cool. Normal social interaction is predictable & dull. Just ask the sociopaths in charge.

HaHa!!! That's a good one. Normal social interaction. Hope no one actually tries that in public, especially in 21st century America. A quick trip to the mall will prove my point. Hundreds of flouride filled, dumbed down kids and teens, marching around like zombies plugged into cell phones and ipods, oblivious to everything around them. Another quick trip to the typical college campus will show thousands drinking themselves into AA clinics and loaning their very souls out in return for tuition and 3 square meals a day at taco bell. Or you could try and mingle at a yuppie dinner party where you'll see some of the most self absorbed idiots bashing their egos into each other like bumper cars.  Hell, we don't need reality shows to show us how far gone we are.

There hasn't been 'normal' social interaction in America for going on 50 years, if ever. If zapping your brain with radio waves with your cell phone, poisoning your own system with flouride water, and allowing credit card companies to turn you into a debted slave - and on top of it sharing all of that pain and misery with your fellow zombies - is NORMAL, well count me in with those paranoid loonies in the tinfoil hats, brother.

Bosh.

[aliveinchrist]

The population elimination is multi-faceted.

Methods include:

Vaccines
Aspartame (& other artificial sweeteners)
Fluoride
MSG
Mercury (in vaccines, CFL lightbulbs)
GMO foods
Poison in chemtrails
Pharmaceuticals/Prozac/ect.
Abortion
AIDs & the sexual liberation movement (introduced AIDs and encouraged population to be promiscuous so it would spread like wildfire)

This doesn't include what they plan for the future, death camps, nuclear blasts, engineered epidemics...

[renegade357]

hey Sane, I think the MAFIA is jewish sicilian,  The M is Mazzini

[Bh]

You people are pitiful.

Last post.

[Geolibertarian]

You people are pitiful.

No, intellectual cowards like yourself are.

Last post.

We should be so lucky.

[Dustbunny]

    REPORTER: Captain Beahan, what was your most outstanding experience on this historic flight?

    KERMIT BEAHAN: I suppose it was when the clouds opened up over the target at Nagasaki. The target was there, pretty as a picture. I made the run, let the bomb go. That was my greatest thrill.

http://www.democracynow.org/2005/8/5/the_atomic_bombers_speak

[ELIJAH STAPP]

 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1058404/Old-people-dementia-duty-die-pushed-death-says-Baroness-Warnock.html


Old people with dementia have a duty to die: Medical Ethics expert

Elderly people with dementia are 'wasting' the lives of those who have to care for them, one of the country's most influential experts on medical ethics said yesterday.

Baroness Warnock said that for the old and sick who are contemplating dying, 'there is nothing wrong with feeling you ought to do so'.

Her remarks in an interview with a church journal were the first public suggestion from any expert with close links to Whitehall that euthanasia should not only be legal but that elderly people should be pressed towards death.

Lady Warnock said: 'If you are demented, you are wasting people's lives, your family's lives, and you are wasting the resources of the National Health Service.'

Her remarks were condemned as 'shocking ignorance' and 'barbaric' by Alzheimer's charities.

Right to life groups furiously accused Lady Warnock and fellow supporters of euthanasia of telling the public they want a right to choose while privately supporting compulsory killing.

Lady Warnock, 84, was the head of the committee which during the 1980s opened the way for legal research on human embryos.

Influential in education as well as in medical ethics, she became an open supporter of euthanasia after her ill husband was helped to die by his doctor in 1995.

She told the Church of Scotland's magazine Life and Work: 'I've just written an article called A Duty to Die? for a Norwegian periodical. I wrote it really suggesting that there is nothing wrong with feeling you ought to do so for the sake of others as well as yourself.'

She added: 'I am absolutely, fully in agreement with the argument that if pain is insufferable, then someone should be given help to die, but I feel there is a wider argument that if somebody absolutely, desperately wants to die because they are a burden to their family or the state, then I think they too should be allowed to die.'

Lady Warnock first suggested that the elderly and sick should die rather than becoming a burden four years ago.

In 2006 she supported an attempt by fellow peers to push through a law allowing doctors to kill patients suffering unbearable pain.

Some 700,000 in Britain have dementia and this is expected to double over the next 30 years.

Rebecca Wood, chief executive of the Alzheimer's Research Trust, said: 'Lady Warnock demonstrates a shocking ignorance when espousing her highly insensitive views.

'People with dementia can live quite comfortably when cared for properly. The solution to our dementia crisis is not euthanasia; the answer is more research so we can find new treatments, preventions and a cure.'

Neil Hunt, of the Alzheimer's Society, said: 'With the right care, a person can have a good quality of life very late into dementia.

'To suggest that people with dementia should not be entitled to that quality of life or that they should feel that they have some sort of duty to kill themselves is nothing short of barbaric.'

Phyllis Bowman, of the Right to Life group, said: 'When has loving somebody been a waste?

'We always thought Lady Warnock was in favour of coercive or compulsory euthanasia.

'Her views are an illustration that while euthanasia is promoted as a right to choose, it pretty rapidly becomes no right to live.'

Euthanasia is a crime in England. But the 2005 Mental Capacity Act endorsed the right of people to have a 'living will' in which they can order doctors to kill them if they become too ill to speak for themselves.

Patients are killed by the withdrawal of water tubes, which are considered to be treatment.

Doctors who ignore such living wills - or ignore the instructions of someone appointed by a patient to make medical decisions for them - commit a crime and can face prison.

[JoshInOntario]

Man, that's disgusting. Thanks for the info.

[Cruise4]

Medical Ethics Expert?? How does one become an epert in morals exactly? Is there a course run somewhere or what? The more I see of 'experts' the more I realise most of them are anything but. It's like a tag on your name given for going along with a corrupt and disgusting agenda.

[UK Lyn]

"..a burden to their family or the state, then I think they too should be allowed to die.."

Bloody hell, I cannot believe this bitch said this.

This broad definition will include the disabled from work who weren't insured, the mentally ill, paralysed troops, OMG the list is endless. This is Dr Mengele all over again. Will we never f***ing learn.

"burden to the state" -well the state won't have the burden of family loyalty will it when they come with the syringe?

...

The face of our eugenicist-Nazi enemy shows itself more clearly every passing day now, Jones and Icke were right, there is indeed a quickening and we need to take our world back from this devils cult before it's too late.  The NWO needs to be exposed as a cult, whose members think they are on every level superior to us, and that they see wiping us out as good for 'humanity' in the long term. Jim Marrs was right, the Nazis indeed went underground even before WWII, and they have grown in strength, technology and stealth all that time, planning our mass extermination to make way for their Ayran, blond Nordic choice of what 'humanity' should be, a 'humanity' where 'imperfect' embryos are literally, sucked out and thrown in the waste bin.

Money wouldn't send me to war, but this will.

[GlobalCordon]

What a horrible old whore! Damn thats some cruel talk. Who does she think she is?

[andy1033]

If they want them dead why do they not kill them. Why push the idea of suicide, on patients.

Sick world indeed.

[Pheonix Renewed]

I'm not anti-suicide, and I never will be.

I am, however, EXTREMELY against stigmatizing people into doing what you want them to do, and particularly in stigmatizing the elderly into killing themselves. It's one thing to come to a decision yourself and have it honored. It's an horrific injustice to have any decision coerced onto you.

This ... person... is a monster.

[Dig]

Mary Warnock, Baroness Warnock
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Warnock,_Baroness_Warnock
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Mary Warnock, Baroness Warnock

Born   14 April 1924 (age 84)
Winchester, Hampshire, England.
Alma mater   Lady Margaret Hall, Oxford
Title   Baroness
Known for   Philosopher of morality, education and mind, and writer on existentialism.
Spouse(s)   Geoffrey Warnock
Children   5 [Hey she has too many children and is a burden to society! What a total fricking hypocrite!]


Helen Mary Warnock, Baroness Warnock, DBE, FBA (born 14 April 1924) is a British philosopher of morality, education and mind, and writer on existentialism.Contents [hide]
1 Early life
2 Career
3 Euthanasia
4 Personal life
5 Works
6 See also
7 Notes
8 External links


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Early life

Warnock was born Mary Wilson, in Meadow House in the city of Winchester, Hampshire, England, the youngest of seven children. Her mother was from a prosperous family, and her father, a Scotsman, Archie Wilson, was a housemaster at Winchester College. He caught diphtheria just before the school's summer holiday in 1923 at the time the bacterial infection was going around the school, and died of heart failure (a complication of diphtheria) after the school had broken up. His death occurred before Warnock was born, and so she was brought up by her mother and a nanny. She never knew her eldest sibling, Malcolm, who was severely mentally handicapped with autism and cared for in a nursing home, spending his last days in a Dorset Hospital. The third child, Sandy, died when very young.[1]

When Warnock was seven months old the family moved to Kelso House, a three-floor Victorian house, now the music centre at Peter Symonds College. Her nanny, Emily Coleman, provided consistency in the upbringing of Warnock and Stefana, the youngest two children, while their mother remained in the periphery of the care of her young children. Warnock chose to be educated as a border at St Swithun's School, Winchester when her mother allowed her bright youngest child to make her own choice of school.[1]

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Career

Warnock studied at Lady Margaret Hall (LMH), Oxford, and was later made an Honorary Fellow in 1984. From 1949 to 1966, she was a Fellow and tutor in philosophy at St Hugh's College, Oxford. Then, from 1966 to 1972 she was Headmistress at the Oxford High School for girls. She was Talbot Research Fellow at Lady Margaret Hall (1972–76). From 1976 to 1984, she was a Senior Research Fellow at St Hugh's College, and was made an Honorary Fellow of the College in 1985. She then became Mistress of Girton College, Cambridge (1986–89). In 2000 Warnock was a visiting professor of rhetoric at Gresham College, London.

Warnock was a member of the Independent Broadcasting Authority (IBA) from 1973 to 1981. She was chair of the UK committee of inquiry into special education (1974–78), and from 1979 to 1985, she advised the UK committee on animal experiments. From 1982 to 1984 she chaired an inquiry into human fertilisation, the Committee of Inquiry into Human Fertilisation and Embryology, whose final report is often called the Warnock report. She was created a life peer in 1985 as Baroness Warnock, of Weeke in the City of Winchester. She is a patron of The Iris Project.

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Euthanasia

In September, 2008, Warnock made the controversial assertion that dementia patients should be euthanised for the good of society because of the strain they put on their families and public services. In an interview given to the Church of Scotland's magazine Life and Work, she said:

"If you're demented, you're wasting people's lives – your family's lives – and you're wasting the resources of the National Health Service. I'm absolutely, fully in agreement with the argument that if pain is insufferable, then someone should be given help to die, but I feel there's a wider argument that if somebody absolutely, desperately wants to die because they're a burden to their family, or the state, then I think they too should be allowed to die." [2]

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Personal life

Warnock married Geoffrey Warnock, later Vice-Chancellor of Oxford University, in 1949. They had two sons and three daughters.

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Works

As chairwoman of committees of inquiry:
The Warnock Report (1978): Special Educational Needs. London: HMSO (report by the Committee of Enquiry into the Education of Handicapped Children and Young People)
The Warnock Report (1984): Report of the Committee of Enquiry into Human Fertilisation and Embryology. London: HMSO
Warnock, Mary (1978). Meeting Special Educational Needs: A brief guide by Mrs Mary Warnock to the report of the Committee of Enquiry into Education of Handicapped Children and Young People.[3] London: HMSO

As author:
Ethics Since 1900 , (Oxford University Press, 1960) ISBN 097536622X
Existentialism , (Oxford Paperbacks, 1970) ISBN 0-19-888052-9
Imagination, (1976)
Schools of Thought, (Faber and Faber, 1977) ISBN 0-571-11161-0
Memory, (1987)
Imagination & Time, (Blackwell Publishers, 1994) ISBN 0-631-19019-8
Mary Warnock: A Memoir – People and Places, (Duckworth, 2001) ISBN 0-7156-2955-7 & ISBN 0-7156-3141-1
Making Babies: Is There a Right To Have Children?, (2001)
The Intelligent Person's Guide to Ethics, (1998) [You gotta be f**king kidding me!]
Nature and Mortality: Recollections of a Philosopher in Public Life, (2004), ISBN 0-8264-7323-7
An Intelligent Person's Guide to Ethics, (Duckworth, 2004) ISBN 0-7156-3320-1
Easeful Death,(with Elisabeth MacDonald) (OUP, 2008)

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See also
List of Visiting Gresham Professors

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Notes
^ a b "The House I Grew up In featuring Mary Warnock". The House I Grew Up In. BBC. BBC Radio 4. 2008-09-17.
^ Baroness Warnock: Dementia sufferers may have a 'duty to die'
^ http://www.bopcris.ac.uk/bopall/ref18916.html

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External links
Mary Warnock's Top Ten Philosophy Books
The Practical Philosopher
Ethics Bites interview on The Right to Have Babies [Why did she have the right to have babies?]

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She is obviously in the "club" of elites that set eugenics policies to create a totally mind controlled New World Order!

[Dig]

She wants to create separation and identification of "special needs children." Obviously this is another step in her long term plan for euthanasia as they are also a "burden to society."

Here is another form of light shining on the most elite families that control the world...

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'Special needs' education queried
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4071122.stm
Last Updated: Wednesday, 8 June 2005, 16:24 GMT 17:24 UK
 
Baroness Warnock wants a "radical review" of special needs education

Mary Warnock, architect of England's special needs education system, is to publish a damning report on how it has turned out in practice.

Baroness Warnock says pressure to include pupils with problems in mainstream schools causes "confusion of which children are the casualties".

She also says the way the most severe needs are assessed is "wasteful and bureaucratic" and "must be abolished".

She wants a "radical review" by an independent committee of inquiry.

In a pamphlet to be published later this month by the Philosophy of Education Society of Great Britain, Lady Warnock calls for a fundamental re-thinking of the concept of inclusion, in which children with physical or emotional difficulties are encouraged to be taught in mainstream schools.

'Disastrous legacy'

This ideal of inclusiveness "springs from hearts in the right place" but she describes its implementation and the consequent moving of pupils out of special schools as a "disastrous legacy".

"Governments must come to recognise that, even if inclusion is an ideal for society in general, it may not always be an ideal for school."

Instead of putting special needs pupils into mainstream schools, she calls for a change in the status and purpose of special schools.

At present, she says these suffer from a "patronising" attitude, which limits their use to children with the most severe and complex disabilities.

"They are regarded as little more than places of containment, hospitals or day centres, but with better educational facilities," she writes.

'Cards stacked against them'

Instead she proposes a system of special schools which could serve a wider variety of needs, including autistic children, but which would be small enough to provide a reassuring and personal environment for emotionally vulnerable pupils.
 
Baroness Warnock wants to re-open the debate about inclusion

These would also have to recognise that special needs might emerge from social deprivation as well as physical disability, she writes.

She says children can feel excluded even if they are in a mainstream school.

"Inclusion should mean being involved in a common enterprise of learning, rather than being necessarily under the same roof."

The system of "statementing", in which the educational needs of pupils with more severe difficulties are established, is also robustly criticised by Lady Warnock - who acknowledges her own responsibility in designing a process which has "turned out to be not a very bright idea".

Lady Warnock, aged 81, a former head teacher, academic and leader of several high-profile inquiries, produced the report which laid the foundations for the introduction of statements of special educational need in England and Wales in the early 1980s.

When the idea was first proposed, Lady Warnock says that it was expected that 2% of pupils with special needs would receive statements.

That statements were actually given to 20%, she says, reflects the lack of clarity over their application.

The statementing process has become too bureaucratic and unresponsive to parents, she writes.

The Advisory Centre for Education, which helps parents, said: "The statementing process is necessarily 'bureaucratic' as it's the gateway to scarce resources for which good records are needed of the nature of the child's difficulties and the appropriate special help required."

The leader of the NASUWT teachers' union, Chris Keates, said the principle of inclusion was "absolutely correct" but was undermined and discredited if it was pursued in a "dogmatic, ideological and unqualified manner".

It had often masked an agenda in some local authorities which had more to do with financial considerations than pupils' needs.

She added: "There is now some evidence that due to pressure from schools and parents a more realistic and considered approach is emerging."

[Dig]

Baroness Warnock Proposes Death to Burdens on the State
http://secretperson.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/baroness-warnock-proposes-death-to-burdens-on-the-state/
Posted by: secretperson | September 19, 2008

Baroness Warnock, alledgedly Britain’s leading moral philosopher, has suggested people with dementia may be put down to stop them being a burden on the state.

In the first few paragraphs of the Telegraph report I thought what she was saying sounded alright and she was just suggesting people had the right to opt for euthanasia. I support people’s right to kill themselves if they want to, that should be their choice.

But it became quite clear that the Baroness meant more than this.

“If you’re demented, you’re wasting people’s lives – your family’s lives – and you’re wasting the resources of the National Health Service.

I’m absolutely, fully in agreement with the argument that if pain is insufferable, then someone should be given help to die, but I feel there’s a wider argument that if somebody absolutely, desperately wants to die because they’re a burden to their family, or the state, then I think they too should be allowed to die.

Now she is telling dementia sufferers they should top themselves because they are a burden on the NHS! Wasting the resources of the NHS? An excessive amount of red tape and middle management is wasting the resources of the NHS. Hypochondriacs waste the resources of the NHS. People making trivial 999 calls because they can’t find their keys are wasting the resources of the NHS. Ill people recieving treatment are what the NHS resources are for!

And of course, someone suffering from dementia is in no position to make a call on whether they feel they are a burden on their families. If someone is worried about becoming a burden they will have to appoint a representative to decide, probably a family member. That family member will then make the call once the demented person becomes incapacitated. As Baroness Warnock herself says:

I think that’s the way the future will go, putting it rather brutally, you’d be licensing people to put others down.

Well I certainly can’t agree with this absolute rubbish. I can’t believe Britain’s leading moral philosopher thinks ill people are a burden on the state. OK she just said demented people, but the logical extension is to anyone with a terminal illness. Then anyone over the retirement age (including the 84 year old Baroness herself). Will we see Harold Shipman reinvented as a paragon of virtue saving the state from the burden of the elderly?

I might exaggerate slightly, but the whole principle shocks me. The state is, or at least should be, nothing more than a tool for the co-operation of people. It is nothing without the people who make it up. It is not some arbitrary higher power with its own interests on whom one can be a burden. If the state isn’t there to help those in need (the burdens), what the hell is it there for?

Is she really trying to say:

Dulce et Decorum est Pro patria mori?

[Dig]

September 19, 2008
http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2008/09/baroness_warnoc.html
Baroness Warnock Calls for Executing the Elderly

Socialized medicine takes a highly valuable and limited commodity — healthcare — and sets the cost to free. Those with even a rudimentary understanding of economics should not be surprised that this has caused supply shortages. But British medical ethics expert Baroness Warnock has found a solution:
The veteran Government adviser said pensioners in mental decline are "wasting people's lives" because of the care they require and should be allowed to opt for euthanasia even if they are not in pain.
She insisted there was "nothing wrong" with people being helped to die for the sake of their loved ones or society.
The 84-year-old added that she hoped people will soon be "licensed to put others down" if they are unable to look after themselves.

Warnock is allegedly Britain's "leading moral philosopher." She wants dementia sufferers to consider "ending their lives through euthanasia." Needless to say, dementia sufferers are not in a position to make decisions, any more than unborn babies are; others make the potentially lethal decisions for them. What this moral philosopher is talking about is having people put to death for having Alzheimer's disease.

Look for other expensive illnesses to follow. When progressives attained total control of Germany, they killed 6,000,000 Jews. The next time they consolidate that kind of power, they'll be going after anyone with costly and/or chronic diseases.

On the positive side, there will be free healthcare for all… who survive.

The Baroness is liable to fall prey to Alzheimer's herself.

On a tip from mega.

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Posted by: The Watcher at September 19, 2008 9:11 AM


You know, even old people that aren't sick right now are at a much higher risk of developing severe (and expensive) health problems. Since even if they recover they don't have much life remaining anyway, wouldn't it be better for their loved ones and society if we just terminated anyone over the age of, I don't know, 83? See "Logan's Run" for more information.

I'm all for allowing people of sound mind the choice to terminate their own lives, having found it ironic that we allow dogs, cats, horses, etc to be put down for "humane reasons", but not humans. As Van pointed out, the problem with Baroness Moonbat's suggestion is that people suffering from Alzheimer's are not in a position to make rational decisions. But of course, the government is rational enough for all of us, so what are we worried about?

Capitalism considers people as assets; Socialism considers people as liabilities. Never is that more clear than in socialized medicine.

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[sociostudent]

I'm not anti-suicide, and I never will be.

I am, however, EXTREMELY against stigmatizing people into doing what you want them to do, and particularly in stigmatizing the elderly into killing themselves. It's one thing to come to a decision yourself and have it honored. It's an horrific injustice to have any decision coerced onto you.

This ... person... is a monster.

God, I hope as few people as possible will really catch on to this horrific idea.

Reminds me of a book I read in Jr. High called, "The Giver". It was about an isolated village where the people had technology to the point where they had complete societal control and when you got to a certain age, you were "released" (euthanized) 

[cathiasus]

That Flaming B*tch wants to see those deaths. She has a yearing for death and suffering as she eats her casa marzu. "I need more death and maggot cheese." Effing gluttonous consuming f*cks!

[UK Lyn]

I cannot believe this witch walks the street without armed bodyguards.

That's as legally-safe as I can express my feelings.

She's one of them folks, the THEM that Jones, Icke, Marrs, Watt all talk about -SHE IS ONE OF THEM and she has come 'out', in your face, just like that! She even expressed her death-cult's cherished wish to begin exterminating the Wasteful Eaters!

Surely this is worse than say, 'inciting racial hatred' -she is inciting mass murder, so why is this devil not arrested?? WTF has gone wrong with the world??

[vcif]

Universal Healthcare...

We're going to the island!We're going to the island!We're going to the island!We're going to the island!

[EvadingGrid]

I cannot believe this witch walks the street without armed bodyguards.

That's as legally-safe as I can express my feelings.

She's one of them folks, the THEM that Jones, Icke, Marrs, Watt all talk about -SHE IS ONE OF THEM and she has come 'out', in your face, just like that! She even expressed her death-cult's cherished wish to begin exterminating the Wasteful Eaters!

Surely this is worse than say, 'inciting racial hatred' -she is inciting mass murder, so why is this devil not arrested?? WTF has gone wrong with the world??

I agree

We have a spectaculor list of laws that could be applied through due process of law to process suspected traitors.

[sociostudent]

Universal Healthcare...

We're going to the island!We're going to the island!We're going to the island!We're going to the island!

I love that movie (The Island) ; a good one for those interested in the scientific dictatorship or eugenics

[xfahctor]

Well, they had better get busy. To iradicate 80% of the population, thats roughly 5.4 billion people. In the last 200 years, the population has grown by almost 6 billion people. not doing such a good job right now and at this rate, with exponential growth, expected to reach roughly 13 billion by the year 2067 (given normal circumstances),thats a 300 fold increase, and the over all world death rate at only about 8 per 1000, it's going to take a lot more than flouride,bio experiments, food shortages and such. No, this is going to require something much bigger. the problem is, what could be big enough to acomplish it in a reasonably short amount of time and still manage to keep the nessesary infastructure, personal, and spuuporting population intact nessesary for survival. But not just survival, but a very lavish existance. They could just tow small asteroid in to the path of earths orbit, but while that would certainly be an extinction level event for those who weren't in the know warned, it would mean a hell existance for the ones who cleaned the population out for themselves. Presumably, being the elite, they want to continue to live the lavish lives they do now, otherwise, why even bother with the whole scheme, right? So all of that funtioning infastructure will stilll be nessesary to maintain the elite lifestyle. So think bigger and more clever folks. the population isnt getting any smaller and if they have been trying all along to do it, they aren't getting very far yet.

[munkey]

It wouldn't be hard to wipe out 2 billion people when they set their minds too it.

first we introduce gm crops,
weaken the imune system.
make people dependent on processed food.

create a fuel shortage which will reduce delivery of food to super markets as well as fast food stores.
reduced fuel means power shortages, so refrigerated food spoiles

what will happen when there is no food in the stores in major cities?
people spread out through the rural communities like locusts eating everything in sight,
the weak die quick, the ones who own guns kill anyone who even looks like they may try and take some food.
a population of 1 million people could be reduced to half that in only a couple of months, introduce viral infections to the remaining with the reduced immune systems.lose another quater.
now spread this out over an entire country, I garantee the military will be fed as well as the security teams, shortage of food will make people kill to protect what little they have.

now you hit the third world countries with more draught and famine as well as gm crops, huddle them up together with the promice of food and wipe them out,
no one hears about it due to the media being owned.
create a war between ME countries and sit back and watch them wipe each other out while they are being funded by 2 different sides.

you may not think it is easy to wipe people out, but with a little planning and understanding of human nature, it is a very easy thing to do.

[xfahctor]

It wouldn't be hard to wipe out 2 billion people when they set their minds too it.

first we introduce gm crops,
weaken the imune system.
make people dependent on processed food.

create a fuel shortage which will reduce delivery of food to super markets as well as fast food stores.
reduced fuel means power shortages, so refrigerated food spoiles

what will happen when there is no food in the stores in major cities?
people spread out through the rural communities like locusts eating everything in sight,
the weak die quick, the ones who own guns kill anyone who even looks like they may try and take some food.
a population of 1 million people could be reduced to half that in only a couple of months, introduce viral infections to the remaining with the reduced immune systems.lose another quater.
now spread this out over an entire country, I garantee the military will be fed as well as the security teams, shortage of food will make people kill to protect what little they have.

now you hit the third world countries with more draught and famine as well as gm crops, huddle them up together with the promice of food and wipe them out,
no one hears about it due to the media being owned.
create a war between ME countries and sit back and watch them wipe each other out while they are being funded by 2 different sides.

you may not think it is easy to wipe people out, but with a little planning and understanding of human nature, it is a very easy thing to do.

right, but that still leaves 3.4 billion people to wipe out and it still isn't very fast or clean and ifastructure preserving.

[munkey]

right, but that still leaves 3.4 billion people to wipe out and it still isn't very fast or clean and ifastructure preserving.

Well lets factor China into the equasion too then, everyone else is busy with their own problems, China walks into neighbouring countries,
India and Pakistan get into a full blown war.
that should dramatically reduce the population.

[Bh]

....still manage to keep the nessesary infastructure,

But not just survival, but a very lavish existance.

They could just tow small asteroid in to the path of earths orbit,

So think bigger and more clever folks.

The sheer lunacy of this post has brought me out of retirement.
So the plan is to "just tow" an asteroid into the path of the earth's orbit and these evil genius's will be able to make that smash into the earth and kill 80% of the population, yet leave the infrastructure to suppost a very lavish existance? That would be quite a trick!

...now you hit the third world countries with more draught...

So the evil genius's also control the weather?

[Geolibertarian]

Last post.

So much for that being you're "last post." 

[xfahctor]

right, again, kills lots of people, but it's war, still not very effective or clean.
 It would take selectively hand picking each and every person, who lives or who dies based on their usefulness or lackthereof to you. You can't just do a mass simultanious wipe out, granted there are areas where you could wipe out a few million at one shot and not affect your quality of life, but even a few milliion are small peanuts compaired to the 5.4 billiion one would have to shoot for at 80%, it would also take a complete and absolute halt to the birth rate or you would be back at square one in a very short time. With the current birthrate, you could kill off 5 million people in one shot and in 2 weeks, half the people you killed off would be replaced.

[xfahctor]

The sheer lunacy of this post has brought me out of retirement.
So the plan is to "just tow" an asteroid into the path of the earth's orbit and these evil genius's will be able to make that smash into the earth and kill 80% of the population, yet leave the infrastructure to suppost a very lavish existance? That would be quite a trick!
 So the evil genius's also control the weather?

"So the evil genius's also control the weather? " .....apparently from what I read....*shrug*
 But this was exactly my point, how would one go about Killing off that many people and still maintain comfortbale lifestyle support? It defies logic. you can cetrtainly kill that many people off easily,  but not in a way that you could maintain a reduced civilized and comfortable society for you to live in in an enjoyable fashion.

[Bh]

So much for that being you're "last post." 

Did you miss me?