How 80% of the Population will be eradicated ...

[releasethebonds]

George Orwell, 1984; Vaporized: "People simply disappeared, always during the night. Your name was removed from the
registers, every record of everything you had ever done was wiped out, and your one-time existence was denied and then forgotten. You were abolished, annihilated: vaporized was the usual word.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080509/ap_on_sc/dissolving_bodies;_ylt=AqZpaHX8xDl2OVAMIez0WXMDW7oF

New idea in mortuary science: Dissolving bodies with lye By NORMA LOVE, Associated Press Writer
Fri May 9, 5:41 PM ET

CONCORD, N.H. - Since they first walked the planet, humans have either buried or burned their dead. Now a new option is generating interest — dissolving bodies in lye and flushing the brownish, syrupy residue down the drain.

The process is called alkaline hydrolysis and was developed in this country 16 years ago to get rid of animal carcasses. It uses lye, 300-degree heat and 60 pounds of pressure per square inch to destroy bodies in big stainless-steel cylinders that are similar to pressure cookers.

No funeral homes in the U.S. — or anywhere else in the world, as far as the equipment manufacturer knows — offer it. In fact, only two U.S. medical centers use it on human bodies, and only on cadavers donated for research.

But because of its environmental advantages, some in the funeral industry say it could someday rival burial and cremation.

"It's not often that a truly game-changing technology comes along in the funeral service," the newsletter Funeral Service Insider said in September. But "we might have gotten a hold of one."

Getting the public to accept a process that strikes some as ghastly may be the biggest challenge. Psychopaths and dictators have used acid or lye to torture or erase their victims, and legislation to make alkaline hydrolysis available to the public in New York state was branded "Hannibal Lecter's bill" in a play on the sponsor's name — Sen. Kemp Hannon — and the movie character's sadism.

Alkaline hydrolysis is legal in Minnesota and in New Hampshire, where a Manchester funeral director is pushing to offer it. But he has yet to line up the necessary regulatory approvals, and some New Hampshire lawmakers want to repeal the little-noticed 2006 state law legalizing it.

"We believe this process, which enables a portion of human remains to be flushed down a drain, to be undignified," said Patrick McGee, a spokesman for the Roman Catholic Diocese of Manchester.

State Rep. Barbara French said she, for one, might choose alkaline hydrolysis.

"I'm getting near that age and thought about cremation, but this is equally as good and less of an environmental problem," the 81-year-old lawmaker said. "It doesn't bother me any more than being burned up. Cremation, you're burned up. I've thought about it, but I'm dead."

In addition to the liquid, the process leaves a dry bone residue similar in appearance and volume to cremated remains. It could be returned to the family in an urn or buried in a cemetery.

The coffee-colored liquid has the consistency of motor oil and a strong ammonia smell. But proponents say it is sterile and can, in most cases, be safely poured down the drain, provided the operation has the necessary permits.

Alkaline hydrolysis doesn't take up as much space in cemeteries as burial. And the process could ease concerns about crematorium emissions, including carbon dioxide as well as mercury from silver dental fillings.

The University of Florida in Gainesville and the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn., have used alkaline hydrolysis to dispose of cadavers since the mid-1990s and 2005, respectively.

Brad Crain, president of BioSafe Engineering, the Brownsburg, Ind., company that makes the steel cylinders, estimated 40 to 50 other facilities use them on human medical waste, animal carcasses or both. The users include veterinary schools, universities, pharmaceutical companies and the U.S. government.

Liquid waste from cadavers goes down the drain at the both the Mayo Clinic and the University of Florida, as does the liquid residue from human tissue and animal carcasses at alkaline hydrolysis sites elsewhere.

Manchester funeral director Chad Corbin wants to operate a $300,000 cylinder in New Hampshire. He said that an alkaline hydrolysis operation is more expensive to set up than a crematorium but that he would charge customers about as much as he would for cremation.

George Carlson, an industrial-waste manager for the New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services, said things the public might find more troubling routinely flow into sewage treatment plants in the U.S. all the time. That includes blood and spillover embalming fluid from funeral homes.

The department issued a permit to Corbin last year, but he let the deal on the property fall through because of delays in getting the other necessary permits. Now he must go through the process all over again, and there is gathering resistance. But he said he is undeterred.

"I don't not know how long it will take," he said recently, "but eventually it will happen."

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AP News Researcher Judith Ausuebel contributed to this report.

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On the Net:

http://www.biosafeengineering.com/tissue/features.html

http://www.resomation.com/index.html

[superfender]

or mammal pox or whatever that bio weapon that U.S. laboratory created, that Alex mentioned one day.

[blackbirdoor]

hurricanes? cyclones? anybody?

[releasethebonds]

i looking for the death pill ... anyone? bueller?

[darsie]

Alkaline hydrolysis definitely has advantages over cremation and burial.

One day in the future most people will chose this.

[Freeski]

The only answer is to eliminate their source of power and that is goverment itself. We don't need half the shit they do.

[A K]

"Soylent Green is people!  It made of melted down people!"

or to quote Chuck from Planet of the Apes

"Its a MADHOUSE!!!"  "YOU MANIACS!  YOU BLEW IT UP!  GOD DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!"

This is disgusting.  Even in death they try to rob our humanity and dignity. 

As Sam Kinnison said "IT NEVER ENDS!"

[darsie]

When I do eventaully pass away - whether my body's burnt - buried in earth - or melted down - it won't matter to me. The soul is the most important thing.

[Freeski]

When I do eventaully pass away - whether my body's burnt - buried in earth - or melted down - it won't matter to me. The soul is the most important thing.

do you really think we go on?

[darsie]

do you really think we go on?

Well - I didn't before - but I do now. Sorry Freeski - but IMHO you're in this 'life thing' for eternity.   

[Freeski]

Well - I didn't before - but I do now. Sorry Freeski - but IMHO you're in this 'life thing' for eternity.   

Why sorry? Sounds good to me.

[releasethebonds]

as an agnostic i can't confirm we go on ... but it would be nice ... but chances are not ... but it would be nice

[Freeski]

as an agnostic i can't confirm we go on ... but it would be nice ... but chances are not ... but it would be nice

holy indecision

[powderisdry]

it will be an engineered bioweapon. Plausibly deniable, and the elites can innoculate themselves. Probably sometime after $10.00/gallon gas and martial law. The survivors will be the new serf class.  Basically hell on earth.

[darsie]

it will be an engineered bioweapon. Plausibly deniable, and the elites can innoculate themselves. Probably sometime after $10.00/gallon gas and martial law. The survivors will be the new serf class.  Basically hell on earth.

It already is for many. Go check Africa - Indonesia - South Asia - etc -

"Plausibly deniable" - excuse my ignorance - but what do you mean by this?

[xereau]

This sounds like means towards "disappearing" someone.

Perfect for the coming 'Night of the Long Knives'.

[David Rothscum]

It already is for many. Go check Africa - Indonesia - South Asia - etc -

"Plausibly deniable" - excuse my ignorance - but what do you mean by this?

It's what they always use. As long as they can do something and give a explanation for it that has even the slightest chance of happening, it's good enough for them.

[xereau]

Check out the documentary The Power of Nightmares.

Fear mongering military industrial complex beaurocratic liasons have been using the:

ZERO PERCENT DOCTRINE

in determining official government policy both foreign and domestic, for decades.

This means, even if there is a 0.0000001% chance something will happen, it is best to plan for it, or better yet, pre-emt it.

Donald Rumsfeld is a master of this technique.

[Brocke]

Recipe for 80% - 90% population reduction
================================
Ingredients:

1 part - Bio Weapon(s)
1 part - Marshall Law
1 Part - Food shortages (famine)
1 Part - Global financial collapse
1 Part - WWIII
1 Part - psycho selfish pig demon people (Yuppies)
------------------------------------------------

Instructions:
Shake vigorously (agitate). Allow to stew.

Note: To speed up the process add more of any the ingredients until boiling point is reached.

[powderisdry]

Hi Darsie

Plausible Deniability is a doctrine used by intelligence services to describe an event (false flag) as either a natural event, or having a mundane explanation.  An engineered superflu would be described in the "media" as a natural virus. Thus relieving the NWO of any responsibility. It also (diabolically), gives the NWO another measure of control as they provide the "solution".  Ab Ordo Chao.......

[jesqueal]

I'd much rather be buried than burned or dissolved...what better way to 'give back' to the planet than donating your nutrients and live on as trees and birds, as past trees and birds and so on live on inside me? f**k planting trees and buying "green insurance" and sterilization and that crap, I wanna be buried

[JEH]

Just another way to destroy the evidence once and for all.

[dbell]

Timmins, Ont. Canada
Right now.
Flu-like symptoms. One death. Quarrantined train.  Ambulances and hazmat suits.
Mayor says its like a scene out of "Outbreak."
FEMA exercises were still going on.
Operation Maple Guardian in Canada.
But, the real upshot is probably not to use the bioweapons for depop.
That would just be the icing on the cake.
The real purpose is false flags leading to martial law.
Capt. Eric May predicted.
FEMA is still set up in Cedar Rapids unti the 25th.
What's going on there now?

[hellcatjr]

This made me stomach churn. What a terrible, terrible idea.

[pac522]

Holy shit. I've said it before, but this is ridiculous. Everything the Mafia has done the government is doing now. The Mafia got rid of quite a few bodies this way. Unbelievable.

[dbell]

Feeding people to pigs is of course eminently practical as well.

Biker gangs have done that for ages.

[darsie]

It's what they always use. As long as they can do something and give a explanation for it that has even the slightest chance of happening, it's good enough for them.

Thanks - now I know.

[Dig]

Holy shit. I've said it before, but this is ridiculous. Everything the Mafia has done the government is doing now. The Mafia got rid of quite a few bodies this way. Unbelievable.

Rise of Mafia in America correlates with 2 events that I am aware of...

1. Prohibition - Rockefeller plan to stop ethynol from competing with petroleum.  When the first diesel engines came out they ran solely on ethynol.  US was #1 producer but it competed with Rockefeller's Standard Oil.  Prohibition allowed Rockefeller to use federal agents to sieze all ethynol land, property and put the owners in jail.  When the agenda was complete and ethynol no longer posed a threat, Rockefeller grabbed Capone for screwing him out of taxes and lifted prohibition soon after.  BTW - there was more alcohol consumption during prohibition than without it.

2. Post WWII - Operation Gladio - CIA worked with Italian Mafia and ex-Nazi soldiers/sympathizers to use false flag terrorism throughout Italy.  They killed innocent women/children and then blamed it on suposed communist elements.  FBI never realized that all of their "key witnesses" intelligence was going from FBI HQ to CIA HQ to Gladio Agents and then back to US Mafia.  So many victims just to keep the secrecy of Gladio. 

It used to be that people thought of the mafia as operating outside the government.  Now everyone knows they work together because they actually hold high levels of office (Bernie Kerig, Rudy Guiliani, etc.).  The mafia is now exposed as just another tool oppressive governments use to f**k with the people.  And the middle and lower level mafia members are also waking up to the fact that they are being used as cannon fodder.  The movie Departed shows how these top level guys that make life a living hell for their underlings are usually informants for the federal government.  That is how they get so much legal/police protection and immunity.

[pac522]

It used to be that people thought of the mafia as operating outside the government.  Now everyone knows they work together because they actually hold high levels of office (Bernie Kerig, Rudy Guiliani, etc.).  The mafia is now exposed as just another tool oppressive governments use to f**k with the people.  And the middle and lower level mafia members are also waking up to the fact that they are being used as cannon fodder.  The movie Departed shows how these top level guys that make life a living hell for their underlings are usually informants for the federal government.  That is how they get so much legal/police protection and immunity.

It wasn't always like that Sane. The government and the Mafia were always in bed with each other on some level. The government would always have dirty work to be done and would ask the Mafia to do it for them. Contrary to belief the Mafia would only murder when necessary, only when the government gets involved do you see it get indiscriminately messy. The government also saw how profitable it was to be run like the Mafia, secrecy, power etc. And then that's when the connection came in and people in government started pulling strings and the line was erased. The Mafia was a necessary evil for Italian immigrants as Italians were out numbered and most of the police were Irish, the Italians caught hell at first. Well anyway, it's not like it use to be.

[Dig]

It wasn't always like that Sane. The government and the Mafia were always in bed with each other on some level. The government would always have dirty work to be done and would ask the Mafia to do it for them. Contrary to belief the Mafia would only murder when necessary, only when the government gets involved do you see it get indiscriminately messy. The government also saw how profitable it was to be run like the Mafia, secrecy, power etc. And then that's when the connection came in and people in government started pulling strings and the line was erased. The Mafia was a necessary evil for Italian immigrants as Italians were out numbered and most of the police were Irish, the Italians caught hell at first. Well anyway, it's not like it use to be.

agreed.  in the movie, the good shepherd, Matt Damon's character was asked "...the italians have family, the so and so have something else...what do you have?"  He responded something like "country" but I do not believe that exists for them anymore.  They (the CIA, CACI, Black Ops) are reduced to defending a feudalistic system where everyone is a slave.  There is no honor in defending a pharoistic ideal.  it is psychopathic and devout of any sense of civility.  but the wholesale slaughter was never a tactic by the mafia as far as I understand it.  It is a tactic of school of the americas trained death squads.  BTW, this video is fitting...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB_Jbr8R8XU

[blackbirdoor]

When I do eventaully pass away - whether my body's burnt - buried in earth - or melted down - it won't matter to me. The soul is the most important thing.

Im sure that you are not going to care about what happens to your body after you die, but have you thought about your family and close one's wishes?
I think that next to your opinion, theirs is the most important.

[Dronethunk]

Feeding people to pigs is of course eminently practical as well.

Biker gangs have done that for ages.

this is in reference to what?
do you know about the Pickton situation?

[Brocke]

September 18, 2007 article about disposing of deer carcases

Burying carcasses will drastically reduce the cost of disposal.

Burial will cost $50 a ton, while Incineration is $1,200 a ton and the alkaline digester used at the UW veterinary diagnostic lab in Madison costs $600 a ton.

http://www.buckmasters.com/bm/Community/Forums/tabid/60/forumid/14/postid/8231/view/topic/Default.aspx

2005 article about seafood waste

Alkaline hydrolysis appears best suited for a large-scale, regional facility as the
figures indicate that it requires continuous operation to be cost-effective. However, it
is questionable whether it is suitable for a regional solution as the largest capacity
digester is 3.6 tonnes. A regional facility would therefore need to have more than one
digester to process the amount of material produced and this would vastly increase
the costs.

http://www.seafish.org/upload/file/waste_utilisation/Alkaline%20Hydrolysis.pdf

Alkaline Digester is cheaper than Incineration but not as cheap as burial.

I bet the Elite will always opt for the cheapest solution.

[Brocke]

Article from Forensic Magazine

Most Wanted: Answers to Facility Issues
By: Lou Hartman, P.E. and Ken Mohr,   Issue: October/November, 2005

The World Trade Center attacks on September 11, 2001; the CIA’s discovery of biological testing by
Al Qaeda; and the recent terrorist bombings in London have certainly changed our perspective not only on disaster preparedness and planning but also on the threat of biological terrorism.

We no longer consider a biological terrorist attack on U.S. soil a remote possibility, rather a reality. For our sake, we hope that is years away, because we have a lot to do to be prepared for minimizing the consequence of such an event...

...Decontamination
Everything that goes into the containment area must eventually come out. Therefore, water, air, people, PPEs, bodies, samples, scientific equipment, gurneys, information, and disposables all must be decontaminated before safely removed from the containment area. A provision for the disinfection of liquid and biological wastes is common in containment areas. Either heat or chemical disinfection renders safe liquid drainage. These systems often employ multiple tanks to collect and then disinfect drainage. Solid biological waste is either red bagged or disposed of through alkaline digesters. Alkaline digesters offer an effective biological kill and liquefy the solid biological waste for disposal down the sanitary sewer drain. Red bagged waste first needs to be externally disinfected before removal from the work area, and then suitably disposed.

Pass-through autoclaves are effective devices to disinfect disposables, PPEs, and gowns removed from the containment area. Equipment removed from containment is placed in a fumigation airlock, which is sealed and uses a gaseous disinfectant. Once the cycle is completed the airlock can then be open from the outside of containment and the equipment removed.

Removal of human bodies from containment poses unique challenges. Techniques in research settings that use alkaline digesters for the disposal of animal carcasses present obvious cultural problems. Certainly the ability to externally decontaminate sealed body bags with liquid disinfectants and then fumigate the body and gurney in airlock allows for safe removal from containment. Ultimate handling of the remains is a question outside the focus of this article...

http://www.forensicmag.com/articles.asp?pid=64

[dbell]

Dronethunk,

What's the Pickton situation?

[blackbirdoor]

i was talking to one of my friends at work, and she says its such a creepy concept. then i throw in the orwell 1984 comment ( she's very knowledgable about the government, etc.) to see how she'd react.
she said it even made it creepier!!
lolz.
but yeah, seriously, let the natural decomposition have its course
stop f**king with it.

[Dronethunk]

Dronethunk,

What's the Pickton situation?

The Pickton brothers in Vancouver who owned a pig farm, were bikers, and
one was convicted of killing 12 women and feeding them to his pigs. (with suspected links to literally dozens of other missing women)

I thought your post on bikers feeding people to pigs was in reference to
the Pickton murders:


http://www.missingpeople.net/the_disappeared.htm
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=16079

dbell, I would be interested if you have any links or references to share
on the topic of bikers feeding people to pigs.

[jesqueal]

dbell, I would be interested if you have any links or references to share
on the topic of bikers feeding people to pigs.

hahahahaha

 why?

[Ponce]

Will that process be the future "ovens" of the future??? how many tanks would take to dissolved 6 millions bodies?..........correction 178,000 bodies... where would you dump all that liquid?.......Yuckkkkkkkkkkk 

[Dronethunk]

hahahahaha

 why?

I'm not joking. I think it is important to know whether the Pickton situation was an isolated
incident or not.