What was Jesus saying?

[CFF]

Listen, all the it's a crime in God's eyes ideas are all pretty but unrealistic crap.
Welcome to reality, Gary's life is ruined. Go to digg's main page to see how effective the framing as been.
God's not going to give him a job. Jesus got f**king owned by the Romans, his last words were: Father why have you forsaken me.
So please realize what these people do for a paycheck is just bringing them good; only good. That's why they do it. You live in Lalaland although your intentions are sound.
It's like people who do things thinking that Jesus is going to protect them and they won't get tortured.
God didn't save any of the Romans who crucified the hundreds of slaves who stood up for freedom. They were decimated.
Welcome to history, welcome to real life honey. Nobody's there to save your from these people. There are no consequences for their crimes, they kill millions of innocents and destroy countless lives.
If you want to fight them while being efficient, how can you ignore history and how always millions have to die before some insane piece of shit in power gets killed by his own, just to be replaced with another cancerous sob.
The irony of your nickname: "realitycheck".
As long as you think God's there to bring you justice, you'll only help your self-destructive complacency. Submissive mindsets are key in our own enslavement. How come millions are outraged like you, but nothing happens?

[realitycheck101]

Listen, all the it's a crime in God's eyes ideas are all pretty but unrealistic crap.
Welcome to reality, Gary's life is ruined. Go to digg's main page to see how effective the framing as been.
God's not going to give him a job. Jesus got f**king owned by the Romans, his last words were: Father why have you forsaken me.

WRONG!! Jesus did not get "owned" by ANYONE, nor was his last words "why have you forsaken me".  It was, IT IS FINISHED!!! BIG DIFFERENCE.  Jesus said this because hs job was FINISHED!!! He came and DID EXACTLY what he was sent to do, which INCLUDES DYING. So lets just get that straight right now.    

So please realize what these people do for a paycheck is just bringing them good; only good. That's why they do it. You live in Lalaland although your intentions are sound.
It's like people who do things thinking that Jesus is going to protect them and they won't get tortured.
God didn't save any of the Romans who crucified the hundreds of slaves who stood up for freedom. They were decimated.
Welcome to history, welcome to real life honey. Nobody's there to save your from these people. There are no consequences for their crimes, they kill millions of innocents and destroy countless lives.

I am NOT in lala land, I live in reality, I also know that innocent people WILL BE persacuted, some for great intentions and others for Jesus's sake.  I also know that these evil murders and liars will get to enjoy the fruits of their labor in the SHORT RUN but in the LONG RUN, they will NOT and will pay far more than they ever receieved.  This I PROMISE YOU.  Now granted that does not do anything to help the people who suffer at their hands now, but for those who believe this, it will make the suffering worth while.  Now those who do not beleive this, well sadlythey suffer in vain then.   
 
If you want to fight them while being efficient, how can you ignore history and how always millions have to die before some insane piece of shit in power gets killed by his own, just to be replaced with another cancerous sob.
The irony of your nickname: "realitycheck".
As long as you think God's there to bring you justice, you'll only help your self-destructive complacency. Submissive mindsets are key in our own enslavement. How come millions are outraged like you, but nothing happens?

Well the "reality" is that many people like yourself look at the world through LOGIC but ignore what is right in front of your face.  You also cannot see the bigger picture because the GOD you denounce is the very one who has BLINDED you to the FULL TRUTH and FULL UNDERSTANDING.

I am not saying this to be coy I am just stating the facts.  Yes, i know you will not like my words or even agree.  I also will say this for yo and others.

GOD NEVER promised anyone a good and kind life in this world, in fact he WARNED that this world is EVIL and that mens hearts are EVIL contuniously.  Life is the TEST OF A MANS SOUL.  The question is WHO will PASS and WHO will FAIL.  Each person is tested according to the exam that is given.

For example. those of us at the bottom of this food chain will face a different test than those that are at the top of this food chain, but none the less, those at the top and those at the bottom wil either PASS or FAIL depending on the choices we make.

I beleive it IS our DUTY to STAND UP for the TRUTH no matter what part of the food chain you are at but I also know that these things have already been told would happen.  The sadd news is though is that it is going to get MUCH WORSE before it is over. 

[ES]

I think realitycheck is not trying to say Jesus will save us if we stand up to power. He's saying people in power need to ask themselves if what they are doing is worth it and how they will be jugded in the end.

[trixi1]

How many people are willing to stand up loud and clear for what they believe in when there are threats made to them? How many will deny Christ when the time comes? This is a short life and we are to make the most of it and be a witness for God.

You can choose not to, but exposing the rampant evil in this world is something we are supposed to do. Like it or not, going about it blindly is being passive to evil. Speak out about it. Don't be afraid because fear is not of God.

Ask God for true conviction and to banish fear and to give you strength, because as has been said before, things are going to get much worse before they get better.

The fact is though, it is getting better at the same time because the people are waking up. This is the great thing about this day and age--being able to share information so quickly over the internet. It is a winning combination that the NWO gestapo cannot stop no matter how hard they try. There is vast strength in faith coupled with numbers of people and vigilance doing the right thing.


God Bless! 

[Anti_Illuminati]

How many people are willing to stand up loud and clear for what they believe in when there are threats made to them? How many will deny Christ when the time comes? This is a short life and we are to make the most of it and be a witness for God.

You can choose not to, but exposing the rampant evil in this world is something we are supposed to do. Like it or not, going about it blindly is being passive to evil. Speak out about it. Don't be afraid because fear is not of God.

Ask God for true conviction and to banish fear and to give you strength, because as has been said before, things are going to get much worse before they get better.

The fact is though, it is getting better at the same time because the people are waking up. This is the great thing about this day and age--being able to share information so quickly over the internet. It is a winning combination that the NWO gestapo cannot stop no matter how hard they try. There is vast strength in faith coupled with numbers of people and vigilance doing the right thing.


God Bless! 

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[whobot]

The fact that "they" are wasting energy setting up people like Gary shows that they are getting very worried and are losing.
Gary's life is far from ruined. Many people who own business knows whats going on, and for the masses who don't, f**k um, who wants to work for them anyways?

[ummagumma]

to go out and cover, crash etc, you MUST have MANY cameras

aren`t they jet capable of scaning detecting ,and then disturbing mobile phones/cameras in a given crowd ?

and for the masses who don't, f**k um, who wants to work for them anyways?

think again !?   

[TimeLady]

Jesus is coming.

Open your mouth.

[realitycheck101]

I think realitycheck is not trying to say Jesus will save us if we stand up to power. He's saying people in power need to ask themselves if what they are doing is worth it and how they will be jugded in the end.

EXACTLY!!!  It is just a little "Realitycheck" (pun intended..    ) to those who are doing this and willing to do this, especially if they claim to be christians.. I would also HIGHLY recommend to them to read the book of proverbs as it speaks a GREAT DEAL with bearing FALSE WITNESS and what they can expect as thier "just reward" for it.

My hope is that if we got even one (more is better though) cop, school worker, social worker, doctor, lawyer, et al, from every group to think twice and NOT do this then it could cause even more to stop and thus making the NWOs job even harder..

Of course those who do not believe in the bible, judgment etc, well, they fear nothing for what they do and we speak to deaf ears regardless.

[White Rose Sophie]

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Every single Christian needs to read this book.  So that they will know what has happened to their brethren in the past, and what they could face in the future.  And my Catholic friends (and I have plenty) should read it twice.   

[HiQConsoul]

ps soz for tripping but ur on my nerves..

bed.. me .. now.. bai
(feel free to moderate this post, perhaps I can express myself better when I've slept..)



**if you wouldnt mind, i think you can do it without calling people names**

-AYB

[Xill]

The one thing I remember the most from the bible and later in life is: do not do to others what you wouldn't want to be done to yourself.
If that advice was followed, we would have fixed all the problems of this world

[Livefreeordie]

Every single Christian needs to read this book.  So that they will know what has happened to their brethren in the past, and what they could face in the future.  And my Catholic friends (and I have plenty) should read it twice.   

Amen and Amen, Sister!!!

http://www.biblebelievers.com/foxes/findex.htm

[la Resistance]

As long as you think God's there to bring you justice, you'll only help your self-destructive complacency. Submissive mindsets are key in our own enslavement. How come millions are outraged like you, but nothing happens?

He may bring justice, but I don't believe it was ever promised for this life.

If you want justice you need to start it.

[Sub-X]

Thread starter = twat attacking Christianity cuz he didnt get his way or some shit

to those messing with Christianity, I pity you... How pathetic can you be when you feel a need to DOWN on .. well anything or anyone...

and tbqfh we will probably never know what he said since it's been manipulated so many times over 3-400 years .. even more ...

Asking questions about something that has been manipulated many times,makes somebody a twat I would say that would give good grounds to ask questions,seen as many Christians use this manipulated work as the bases of the validity of most of their religious arguments.This is the very point of my argument,how can people take the bible as gospel when it has been manipulated so many times.
I'm not bashing God,I'm bashing the bible for the very reason you pointed out in your above sentence.

[dogmadestroyer]

[zafada]

Religion is superstition to guide a superstitious race.

Before religion we raped, murdered, tortured...oh wait....nothing's changed.  Humans still die regardless of your faith so you might want to give up on the whole jesus thing.

Then again, that's just my opinion that religion is a giant conspiracy within itself.  There may have been truth to it ages ago but that truth goes along with something else which people see almost every day and just pass it off...

"What do people see Zafada?"

Well I'm glad you asked.

"Thank you."

Well if you study the paranormal, astral projection, sleep paralysis, uv technology, and wait out in an area where there are no humans for miles then you might see my point...

Yeah, makes no sense.  That's because I can't mention things like this on this forum for some odd reason.  Too much god stuff..

[jkm1864]

Oh Jeez why do the lost always feel they need to put in their worthless two bit cents in a religios conversation. Hey how bout I chime up and talk about how athiests are f**king stupid because they think everything here just happened. I wonder if those same people ever looked into Astral Projection and other planes of existence. Hell even physics now is talking about multiple planes of existence. I guess the same people don't even think UFO's exist even though 1000's of people see them every year. I guess You consider Yourself smart because You don't believe in Satan Clause because You have never seen them. I guess I will give You some comfort and say that Gods own people denied Him and His promise when they crusified Christ because they did not believe either. I for one think people should have their own opinions but when You cross the line thats a different story. I can't see how anyone doesn't think anything is going to happen especially with all the 2012 crap coming up. Hell there is starvation going on all over the world and WW3 is about to break out is that any hint that the shit is going to hit the fan. I hope You people make do ok in the upcoming years because according to the book You will not. I guess You don't believe in that either so ..... oh well ignorance is bliss I guess .........

[aLLyOuRbAsE]

well, in answer to what was jesus saying, i think the biggest thing i learnt was about love and fear, or how to fight fear with love. i think thats what jesus was trying to tell us, that we dont have to try and force everybody else to act right, we only have to walk our own path of love.

just my opinion, mind.

[Livefreeordie]

Religion is superstition to guide a superstitious race.

so you might want to give up on the whole jesus thing.

Then again, that's just my opinion that religion is a giant conspiracy within itself. 

Well, since you have all the answers on how Jesus is a fantasy and the Bible is a fairy tale, perhaps instead of running your mouth you can back up your claims.

Instead of giving us your Jordan Maxwell speech and director's cut of Zeitgeist, how about trying to disprove 2 things for us.................

Is the Bible God's Word?
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/gods_word.htm

The Prophecies fulfilled and being fulfilled in the Bible. No other book can claim this, not even close.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/fulfilled_prophecy.htm
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Miscellaneous/messianic_prophecies.htm
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/End%20of%20the%20World/bible_prophecy.htm

Some Things Were Not Meant to be Understood

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A man recently sent me a letter asking how I knew the Bible was God's Word.  He said that the Bible contained many contradictions that confused him.  A simple web search under "Alleged Bible Discrepancies" will provide hundreds of links to answer any skeptics questions.  Google alone provided 701 links.  Several excellent books have been written on this issue which will also show up in any web search under "Alleged Bible Discrepancies."  The problem is that a lot of people want to argue, they're belligerent.  They DON'T want to learn the Truth, they just want to argue what they believe. I don't argue with people, I generally just send them Bible verses.  Let them argue with God.

The gentleman who wrote me also asked how Noah was able to provide Eucalyptus plants for the Koala's on the ark.  He also wanted to know why the tower of Babel was an issue when planes today fly much higher than the tower of Babel could have been built.  Then he asked where Cain got his wife.  I sent him the following Scripture...

    "But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.  A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself." -Titus 3:9-11

The word "subverted" simply means that he is destroyed of himself.  He is corrupted to the point where he is unreasonable.  You can't logic with him because he has become his own worst enemy.  The Word of God directs us NOT to answer questions which have no answer...

"But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes." -2nd Timothy 2:23

I don't try to answer questions that have no obvious answer.  The Apostle Paul clearly said that God has only provided us with a limited understanding, "For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known" -1st Corinthians 13:12.  Too many believers try to answer questions which do not need to be answered.  I'm not going to try to figure out where Cain's wife came from.  Does it matter?  To the godless reprobate that is already biased against God's Word, you've got to prove everything to him or else he claims he won't believe.  The truth of the matter is that he wouldn't believe anyway even if you could prove it to him.  Abraham told the rich man in Hell concerning his brothers still living, "If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead" -Luke 16:31.
 

What is Proof?

I get all sorts of letters from people wanting "proof" that the Bible is God's Word.  What is "proof."  Is it not relevant?  Proof is based upon evidence.  The evidence that I might consider as "proof" of something may not be enough evidence for you.  You can present the same evidence to 10 different people and they may not all except it as proof.  Hence, some people believed that the earth was round hundreds of years ago simply because Isaiah 40:22 said that it was (or because they saw that the moon was round).  Yet, there were also plenty of skeptics back then who adamantly proclaimed that they'd go to their graves believing that the earth was flat.  Everyone who believed the earth was flat was wrong, but they were sincerely wrong.  Likewise, many people today are sincerely wrong about the Word of God.  To me, the Word of God itself is proof enough that It is the eternal, inspired, infallible, incorruptible, preserved Word of God.  If it is not enough proof for you, then your fate is in your own hands.

I receive so many letters from people who want to argue over foolishness.  They don't really want to find the Truth of God's Word.  Arguing, like gossip, is a cheap form of entertainment for some people.  The Apostle Paul in this Scriptures we just read advises us to "reject" belligerent people who just want to argue foolishness.  By "Reject" Paul simply means that we shouldn't waste our time trying to convince someone who already has formed a biased opinion.  I receive many wonderful letters from people who need my help, and I always do my best to help them.  It's not that we should give up on anyone, but there are so many people who haven't heard the gospel that need our help.  Let us be productive for God and not allow Satan's critics to preoccupy our precious time which can be spent helping those who want to be helped.  Romans 10:15 reads, "...How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!"  Notice that the Bible doesn't say it is beautiful to argue with people.  What is beautiful is the good news of Jesus Christ.  I have written an article concerning this which I hope you will read titled, The Simple Gospel.

We must all read the Bible for our self and then personally decide whether or not we believe It is God's Word.  There is NO magic bullet.  Either you believe the Bible is God's Word or you don't!  I believe 100%!

[cad420guy]

It was never said that you get things from god just by asking.  It is not up to god to bring justice in physical life, it is up to all of us.  God can only guide and direct us and it is up to us to actually work for it.  We can only ask for strength, courage, knowledge and wisdom.

If god actually had control over us, that would go against us having choices.

It was never said that god would protect us in this life, only eternal life.