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Google Continues to Censor Martial Law FilmFilmmaker Alex Jones livid, expresses outrage on the Radio8-30-07   by civilian The American people are victims of censorship, and it has been an ongoing concern for International filmmaker Alex Jones, who has been in a constant battle protecting liberties and exposing the lies and disinformation of the mass media. His listeners are vast in number and they are increasing by leaps and bounds as the tyranny increases and the message of the founding fathers spread like wild fire thanks to Alex's half a dozen websites and the legacy of his 16 film documentaries. Since George W Bush mentioned Martial Law last week, it has become a number one google search, which led the people to the top hits on this subject, which of course is Alex's film: Martial Law 9/11: Rise of the Police State. It seems Google has pulled the movie, or a least is preventing its viewers from seeing the film, for what reason and what gain, your guess is as good as mine. Alex has experienced this many times in the past, and now even his listeners are experiencing the same kind of tyranny when they try to display a Ron Paul sign on their front lawn, or display a flag upside-down, as a sign the nation is in distress, and are demanded by authorities to remove it. The constitution allows freedom of expression, that's what has separated the USA from the rest of the world. A Constitutional Republic allows its citizens unelienable rights from the creator to life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Freedom. The Founding Fathers fought and died for this document so we the people could have freedoms. Freedom of expression is guaranteed by the Constitution. By Google video censoring Alex's film, Martial Law, they are infringing on not only his rights, but also the rights of all the people in the USA and Canada and the rest of the world. I'm in Canada, I can't see this film on Google Video. It says 856,218 people have already downloaded and viewed this film, with 1800 five star ratings (to date) since it was uploaded. Now you can't view it.I suggest everyone who can still think straight, who can still see and hear, download, or buy all of Alex's films, make copies and hand them out. Bypass the establishment NWO machinery, go right to the source and buy the DVDs direct, enabling Alex to make more movies, educating the masses so they can retain and keep the freedoms that are so precious in a world that is quickening. Go to the gift shop and load up, while you still can. www.infowars.comIf you can't do that, then just join up at www.prisonplanet.tvand your monthly or yearly donation will suffice. As a bonus, members of prisonplanet can download all of Alex films and WKBJ TV Sunday TV Reports, a behind the scene look at the Alex Jones radio show videotaped for members only and audio mp3 downloads. Google - Martial Law - Check for yourself: Martial Law 9/11: Rise of the Police Statehttp://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-6495462761605341661&q=martial+law&total=1698&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
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I've heard of this years ago. This guy maybe re-hashing someone else's idea. When I heard it, it was on about how people will time travel, they estimated, as a safer means that you wont mess the past up in, that you could simulate the passed on super computers in the future and, if they did it, we'd have a high likelihood of existing in one already.
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« Reply #82 on: August 30, 2007, 03:53:34 PM » |
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Well, in actuality, it very well may be a good idea to pull out your money and use it to buy some rural land, and get yourself prepared for what is coming, before the economy crashes and paper money won't be worth anything except a way to help start a fire. Either way, when it all comes crashing down, the American dollar won't be worth squat! Hell, it really isn't worth a squat now, but at least you can still buy goods, land, ammo, etc....in order to survive the coming onslaught.
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ALEX THEY'VE BEEN HACKING YOU TODAY. ALL MORNING, WHILE TRYING TO CLICK LINKS ON PRISONPLANET EACH CLICK WOULD CLOSE THEM UP, ROLL THEM UP AND OUT OF SITE. REFRESHING THE PAGE WOULD KINDA FIX IT, ALTHOUGH THE LINK WOULD NOT LOAD, AND THEN THE PROBLEM WOULD PERSIST. I COULDN'T LOAD TO INFOWARS OR ANY OF YOUR ASSOCIATED WEBSITES, INCLUDING JONESREPORT. I MEAN, WHO DO YOU REPORT THIS TOO? THE FCC? HA. VAYO CON DIOS.
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Geez... I just want to get through one holiday here... Gotta put out more Ron Paul signs!! Cheer up charlie  --L (NO FEAR)
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Per AJ's request on the show today here is the transcript for the Keith Oberman Show on Dr. Irwin: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20297008/OLBERMANN: You have hard all the complaints. Life is just a sick and twisted game. That guy over there is wired wrong. Or, as even Shakespeare wrote, as flies to wanton boys are we to the gods. They kill us for sport. Number one story in the COUNTDOWN tonight, we‘ve got what might be bad news for you. There is a 20 percent chance we‘re living inside a computer simulation. Yes, you, me, Lindsay Lohan, everybody. The classic answer from Descartes to the question of existence, I think therefore I am, perhaps more correctly stated as, a guy clicks a mouse, therefore I am. The theory by Nick Bostrom, a philosopher at Oxford University and fleshed out by the “New York Times‘” science writer John Tierney yesterday, that technological advances will some day produce for us a computer so powerful that it could simulate a complex world with billions of creatures of some sort in it. Yes, it is sort of like “The Matrix,” except that the virtual people would have no physical counterpart, just virtual beings in a giant virtual world. Advanced civilizations of real people, the argument goes, would create these simulations to better understand their own evolution or just for S and giggles. Like a super advanced version of the SIMS. Ultimately, says Bostrom, there would be far more virtual people in computer simulations than there are real people in a real world. Therefore, there is a decent chance that some entity somewhere has already invented those super computers, that they have already perfected one of those mammoth simulated world games and that we are in it. Professor Bostrom of Oxford puts the chances at about 20 percent. You could argue it is more like 50-50. After all, if such computer simulation could some day exist, it is equally possible that it already does exist and that we all are already in it. Which would at least explain that metallic taste you get sometimes in your mouth. I am joined here by William Irwin, professor of philosophy at Kings College in Pennsylvania, editor of “More Matrix and Philosophy, Revolutions and Reloaded Decoded.” Thanks for coming in. WILLIAM IRWIN, KINGS COLLEGE: Thanks for having me, Keith. OLBERMANN: So we‘re part of a computer program? You would this would have gotten larger play on the news. IRWIN: It‘s possible. The idea is that if you were in a really high-tech, sophisticated virtual reality program, you would not know it, as portrayed in “The Matrix.” It‘s an old idea, as you mentioned, going all the way back to Rene Descartes. The new twist on it that Bostrom puts in an essay that‘s reprinted in my book is that there are three possibilities really. That technologically mature societies go extinct before they reach the stage of being able to produce these kinds of things, in which case nuclear holocaust, that sort of thing. Or, second option, that they simply wouldn‘t do this or would find it boring or ethically troublesome. OLBERMANN: Like that has ever stopped science before. IRWIN: Unlikely. I would put that as a low probability. The third one is that they would get to this point in this technology and then, perhaps, they would make these worlds. If there were a billion people in such a world, each of whom is running a virtual world with people in it, say a billion people, it becomes a billion to one shot that you are one of the people in the real world. OLBERMANN: So, but this is a basic theory—We have seen “Twilight Zones” like, this where you are in somebody else‘s dream. We are in a somebody else‘s little bead sweat near their brow. The entire universe is actually this big. All of these things. This is the first time that it really has matched up with technology that people at home can understand. If there is a SIMs game, we could be in a super version of a SIMs game. That‘s what this is all about. Right? IRWIN: It started with Pong. We moved 20 years later up to the SIMs. We‘re amazed with that. Imagine what 100 years of computer technology from now will produce. Probably virtual reality games with beings in it that have minds and consciousness just like ours and who think they are in the real world. They will vastly outnumber the number of people in the real world. OLBERMANN: Is human existence a research experiment? Is a video game Is somebody winning? Is there a high score? IRWIN: Who knows. But, in any case, we are not the players in it if this scenario holds true. We are simply being played. We are the pawns in chess, if you will. Who knows what the point to of game is? Someone‘s science experiment, someone‘s hobby, whatever the case might be. OLBERMANN: One of my favorite jokes has always been there‘s evidence that there is a god, but there is just as much evidence that it clearly a part-time job. That would explain everything. Even if this is a research project somewhere, the guy goes home at night and it could be a million years in between visits. Right? IRWIN: It makes a lot of sense when you think about it. The classic question in philosophy is how could this world be the product of an all knowing, all loving, all powerful god? It takes a lot of faith to believe that. However, if this world is simply a virtual simulation, maybe it is run by a fourth grader who has forgot about it or a part-time creator. It begins to explain what? Deadly hurricanes, cancer, the Lindsay Lohan scenario and the on going popularity of “American Idol.” OLBERMANN: Just to screw with the characters to make them react to a bad situation. IRWIN: It‘s a glitch in the matrix. That explains the popularity there. OLBERMANN: What happens if we are simulations and we all read this piece in your book or the version that was released yesterday and we all figure it out and go, yes, this actually rings true to my experience. And everyone holds up a big sign like this that says hey pal, we figured out this is a computer simulation, what happens then? IRWIN: I would caution against that. Because when my parents found out that I did not believe in Santa Claus anymore, the gifts stopped coming quite as quickly and quite as well. If we let the maker of this game know that we are on to him, the game might be over. I suggest we go along with things, even though there‘s a 50-50 chance that this is such a game. Let‘s play along. OLBERMANN: What would you do if the SIMs that you were playing with suddenly all held up signs, you would run out of the room screaming. In ten seconds, does this actual change, from the philosophical point of view, the meaning of life? Even if it is a creation in a machine, it doesn‘t matter, does it? IRWIN: I don‘t think so, no. We still would want to live our lives the way we‘ve always thought they should be lived, with great variety among viewpoints there, of course. OLBERMANN: We just have to worry about viruses and being downloaded too many times. IRWIN: And conveniences. OLBERMANN: Professor William Irwin of philosophy and also the editor of the book “The Matrix and Philosophy,” great thanks for your time. Boy, are the intelligent design folks going to freak out over this. That is COUNTDOWN for this the 1,568th day since the declaration of mission accomplished in Iraq. I‘m Keith Olbermann. Good night and good luck. THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. 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« Reply #87 on: August 30, 2007, 05:33:40 PM » |
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« Reply #88 on: August 30, 2007, 06:11:16 PM » |
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I had created http://bush.suckered.us - For 30 days it ranked top when someone looked up George Bush on google. Google image search clearly showed the picture in my article on the front page of google image search for the search term "George Bush" The traffic to this domain / article on my site was incredibe for a period of 30 days then died. I frantically searched repeatedly for my url and found it was completely delisted .. It spent two months completely delisted. I resubmitted it to google and again found it delisted. I then proceeded to create a youtube video documenting this and it's won honours despite a crappy video and all As seen here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LyvGm8NR3MIt's honours include this. Honors for This Video: #49 - Most Viewed (This Week) - Entertainment Yesterday I checked again after 3 months still no listing for http://bush.suckered.usAnd after a resubmission today again FINALLY it's reincluded in the listings however WAYYYYYYYYYY back in the rankings. It would seem that google is censoring anything to do with George Bush. Perhaps he and the "googler" have something going? Don't forget http://dick.cheney.suckered.usThanks for taking time to read this. I'm appalled in a country where there is free speech we are still being censored and especially by a corporation who's obviously truly being run by the government.
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« Reply #89 on: August 30, 2007, 06:40:59 PM » |
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I have some experience with Google promotion and, although you may be correct, this is not a rare occurrence. Many websites experience exactly the same thing and it's apparently not due to censorship. Google has an article on this if you search, though i don't recall the content. I think it mentions that new websites will often be given a high ranking and, after a short time, will fall. It is normal, however given the nature of the content on your site, it could be censorship, but you need to investigate further.
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« Reply #90 on: August 30, 2007, 10:56:34 PM » |
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« Reply #91 on: August 31, 2007, 01:03:01 AM » |
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« Reply #92 on: August 31, 2007, 08:38:22 AM » |
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You got a source for any of that darsie?
Another key question is why has it taken 10 years for an inquiry to be even started?
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« Reply #93 on: August 31, 2007, 08:47:08 AM » |
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When I heard that google was deleting Martial Law 911 I found that the extended version was still there. I decided to download it before it was gone too. But when trying to download, a popup came up that said "Either you are not on google video or downloading the video is not authorized".
What's up with that? I never encountered this before.
Looks like google stepped up censorship by not only deleting truth videos, but also blocking downloads.
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« Reply #94 on: August 31, 2007, 10:06:28 AM » |
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Hi Busker - here are a couple of sites that give further details concerning Diana and Dodi's unfortunate deaths, although they appear to be inaccurate in a couple of areas. They are not comprehensive. And an excerpt from Wikipedia which pretty much hits the nail on the head IMHO! The British government continues to stonewall and block any attempt to get at the true facts surrounding her untimely death, just as they have done so with the suspicious events surrounding Dr. David Kelly's "suicide". If you want to point a finger - then look no further than Prince Philip and the JIC (Joint Intelligence Committee) over which he had considerable sway at the time (and still does) concerning the activities and ultimate fate of Diana and other matters relating to the security of the Royal household. Queen Elizabeth had her suspicions as to what ultimately happened, but because of her position was not privy to these closely guarded intelligence matters. http://newsfromrussia.com/world/europe/96593-1/http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2007/07/10/diana-assassination-plot-exposed-fiat-driver-worked-for-british-intelligence-shot-in-the-head-twice/"Fayed's son, Dodi, was dating Diana, Princess of Wales and was killed with her in a car crash in Paris in 1997. Fayed has since made repeated allegations that the deaths were not accidental but rather the result of a wide-ranging conspiracy involving Prince Philip, MI5 and others. This campaign has resulted in Harrods' loss of all of its Royal Warrants. Fayed has suggested that a cabal of British royalty and security officials could not stomach the possibility that Diana might bear a child to Dodi, and although there is no evidence that Diana, who had dated Dodi Fayed quite briefly before their deaths, had any plans to marry him, Fayed has persisted in claiming that she was pregnant with their child. (See Fayed's website, link below). A British police inquiry released Thursday December 14, 2006, concluded that Diana was not pregnant at the time of her death. Fayed has also claimed that he is the victim of a long-running smear campaign to link him to the terrorist group al-Qaeda." Mr. MI5
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« Reply #96 on: August 31, 2007, 10:50:33 AM » |
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We will be broadcasting a live feed like we do every Saturday from 1-5 EST. We'll have to see how many people try and watch it b/c it will be limited.
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« Reply #97 on: August 31, 2007, 11:57:54 AM » |
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Good. I for one will be logging onto the URL but I fear that the URL - video feed - will be over-whelmed -
Otherwise I hope to keep up with what's goin' on in NYC on youtube ASAP.
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« Reply #98 on: August 31, 2007, 12:01:14 PM » |
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we might shoot 30 mins at a time and upload as we go as well, so that feauture wont be live but you'll get a short delay
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« Reply #99 on: August 31, 2007, 12:22:48 PM » |
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DanfromCHANGE - thanks for the info. Good luck on the day and with Loose Change - Final Cut.
I live and work in Bangkok - but would surley be givin' you guys some support if I was able to get to NYC on the eleventh.
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« Reply #100 on: August 31, 2007, 05:21:44 PM » |
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Hi, don't be fooled by the matrix. It is another con and similar to the 1938 pre war propaganda from official media for an invasion from Mars. Mass hysteria is a weapon of war as we now know. The American people are looking for scapegoats after 9/11 and the matrix is as viable as suggesting the twins were made of Swiss cheese. Sorry if the critique is hurtful to you personally ... if you really believe in the matrix.
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Collin - That was why AJ wanted the transcript, during the broadcast yesterday, the caller brought it up as another example of how the masses are being manipulated (my synopsis). I don't think there is anyone here would honestly consider that the 'matrix" represents our reality, nor that our lives are just a part of a "Virtual World" for some existential being's amusement.
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« Reply #102 on: August 31, 2007, 06:23:46 PM » |
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Looks like google stepped up censorship by not only deleting truth videos, but also blocking downloads.
There's different ways to d/l videos from a variety of sights. one of the easiest is Firefox + DownloadHelper. i don't know if that will address your problem though. i never experienced that.
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« Reply #103 on: September 01, 2007, 01:00:15 AM » |
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im not suporting or saying google dont but first time i saw loose change was on top 100 of googles vids right after i got dsl so at one time they mightve been good ...well long story short thanks to that i woke up
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« Reply #104 on: September 01, 2007, 01:37:48 AM » |
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whats funny bout imunazations since i was lil im still young now it seems every yr my records disapper and they want me in there takeing wat i took as a kid ......wich leeds to them suposedly looking under cabinets and finding them after i bitch but seems they rly want me takeing them so think of your kids they might pull that shit
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« Reply #105 on: September 01, 2007, 01:39:22 AM » |
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if i cud id avoid us currency and banks as much as possible thts a deth trap of no funds / useless funds waiting to happen
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play this game now http://refer.gpotato.com/721246/Flyff "When they find the remains of our civilation no matter who they are or what they are the only thing that will be said was mans greatest predator was man him self " Salem
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« Reply #106 on: September 01, 2007, 01:45:32 AM » |
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While we're on the subject of immunization, here's some information on a drug that Merck pushes to young girls worldwide - Gardasil - supposedly designed to immunize against cervical cancer. 1. There have been no long term studies into the effects of Gardasil. Not a single one. 2. Merck - the company behind Gardasil, is still dealing with the scandal surrounding their pain medication "Vioxx", which they had to withdraw from the market in 2004 after it was found to increase the long-term risk of heart attack and stroke in patients who took it regularly. 3. Gardasil is one of many vaccines containing aluminium, and there is increasing evidence suggesting that aluminium-based vaccines can have harmful effects. Aluminium is a neurotoxin [toxic to the brain] and the aluminium in vaccines can potentially reach the brain. Since the list of required childhood vaccines is only getting longer over time, children are being exposed to doses of aluminium that may exceed what their bodies are capable of managing. Aluminium in vaccines has been linked to a variety of neurological disorders, including Alzheimer’s. 4. Of around 100 possible varieties of HPV, Gardasil is claimed to prevent just four.... yes 4 out of 100. 5. Gardasil has not been tested to determine if it will damage or mutate your DNA. Why is this a concern? Gardasil contains a live genetically engineered cancer virus. What does this newly created organism do to the cells of your body in the long term? Don't ask Merck, they haven't studied it. 6. America's National Vaccine Information Centre called for an investigation into Gardasil in an article that was posted on the Washington Times website. That article has since been taken down, but you can still view an excerpt from it here: http://au.messages.yahoo.com/news/top-stories/598380/7. If you Google for: "washingtontimes.com gardasil" without the quotes, you can read more stories critical of Gardasil... just be sure to click the "cached" version - as these stories all seem to have been deleted...
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if i cud id avoid us currency and banks as much as possible thts a deth trap of no funds / useless funds waiting to happen
Put as much as you feel you can afford into Liberty Dollars, then. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_dollarhttp://www.libertydollar.org/Oh yeah - the $1000 Liberty has Dr. Ron Paul on it.
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« Reply #109 on: September 01, 2007, 10:32:59 AM » |
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Oh yeah - the $1000 Liberty has Dr. Ron Paul on it.
Wow and the $20 silver piece and $1 copper!!! Awesome Time, thanks for sharing that. Too bad @$$! ---------------- Now playing: Black Pegasus - F@&K Yo Radiovia FoxyTunes
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THINK! BEFORE IT'S ILLEGAL
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« Reply #110 on: September 01, 2007, 12:17:34 PM » |
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That Liberty Dollar is a great solution! definately check that out!
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DEMAND REALITY! DEMAND THE TRUTH! DEMAND A NEW INDEPENDENT 911 INVESTIGATION!
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« Reply #111 on: September 01, 2007, 01:15:41 PM » |
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http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=3799.0On page 3 now, answered 30th. Nah, not a stupid story, thin veiled attempt to warn those who see NWO tentacles in it all to back off, "Or Else". Being controlled is based on 2 things, idiocy, and complicity(you think for your own good). For those people who are asleep, it was a stupid story. If you're awake, it was a warning not to ruin what you have, I guess.
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The number, 666, has been changed. The new number is, 999.
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« Reply #112 on: September 02, 2007, 12:30:24 AM » |
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whoa, is this really honored currency? I understand that gold is gold and silver is silver, but who's to say like in an old western, the feds will look at my Liberty money someday and say "Boy, that there is fool's gold"? I see both sides to my question, but I just want to know that if I convert my IRA to Liberty money that it is a fool proof investment.. Ron Paul may have my vote, but I can just see any bank looking at me funny with a non president (at least yet) coin like I wanted to deposit monopoly money. Is there a chance it could bite anyone in the ass if we trade our paper for Ron?
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« Reply #113 on: September 02, 2007, 12:32:41 AM » |
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i'm a big fan of Peter Schiff (e)? you'll see him on CNBC from time to time to be lambasted for his bearish outlook. now he says that of his OWN money 75% gold related, mining i presume, then again he adds the caveat he's being aggressive, but what did Caryle group recomend when their own internals were leaked, they advocated the same thing... do your research though, just don't jump into newmont, they have a little baggage which should be considered
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« Reply #114 on: September 02, 2007, 07:22:09 AM » |
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whoa, is this really honored currency? I understand that gold is gold and silver is silver, but who's to say like in an old western, the feds will look at my Liberty money someday and say "Boy, that there is fool's gold"? You can only pay your taxes in FRNs or a check or money order redeemable for FRNs. Like in the old days, you could spend say, Canal Bank Notes from New Orleans all over Louisiana, but you could only pay your taxes in hard Federal coin (it would have been easy enough, there, with a mint in New Orleans, but you get my point). I see both sides to my question, but I just want to know that if I convert my IRA to Liberty money that it is a fool proof investment.. Ron Paul may have my vote, but I can just see any bank looking at me funny with a non president (at least yet) coin like I wanted to deposit monopoly money. Is there a chance it could bite anyone in the ass if we trade our paper for Ron? It could if you tried to put it in your bank or spent it at a place that doesn't accept Liberty Dollars. If you're gonna put it in a bank, put it in a safe deposit box. In case no one will pay you $1000 for it, you can still sell it for the bullion value if need be. Which, let's face it, by the time the spit hits the fan it'll prolly be worth $2000 or five hundred ameros.
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Hanlon's razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
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« Reply #115 on: September 02, 2007, 09:46:56 AM » |
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whoa, is this really honored currency? I understand that gold is gold and silver is silver, but who's to say like in an old western, the feds will look at my Liberty money someday and say "Boy, that there is fool's gold"?
Gold and silver are pretty much fool-proof investments unless you're fooled into paying too much. Fool's gold is a whole other substance (usually pyrite). If the federales had a beef about Ron's face in an emergency situation you can melt them down (a federal offense with FR coins - but I don't know how they'd know). These are real gold, not pyrite, 1oz coins. Which is at $21 a gram... http://goldprice.org/gold-price-per-gram.htmlBut I really dig those silver coins. That's a hella' good price for someone, like me, with bupkis for savings. ---------------- Now playing: Lazyboy/Roddy Frame - Western Skiesvia FoxyTunes
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« Reply #116 on: September 02, 2007, 03:26:25 PM » |
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If the federales had a beef about Ron's face in an emergency situation you can melt them down (a federal offense with FR coins - but I don't know how they'd know).
They're not Federal coins, they're coins put out by a private mint. Using one of these to pay your taxes is about as foolish as using a half-eagle to but a cup of coffee.
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« Reply #117 on: September 03, 2007, 11:04:39 AM » |
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Its understood they are not fed coins, simply stating with fed coins you'd be "breaking the law" (whatever that means anymore. The law is dead) were you to melt them down, where with liberty dollars you are not. ---------------- Now playing: WKCR - Columbia Universityvia FoxyTunes
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« Reply #118 on: September 03, 2007, 05:34:20 PM » |
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Don't buy gold or precious metals - they're not worth anything except to those few people who think it actually has value.
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« Reply #119 on: September 03, 2007, 10:34:59 PM » |
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We know its goin down like your girlfriend on your birthday. Time to bail out, or sell everything short lol.
Well if thats the metaphor youre going to choose then I guess stock market wont be going down at all.
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