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« Reply #80 on: November 23, 2007, 07:39:13 AM »

ringworm children - this is the most provocative of all the exposes in recent history (just in front of or equal to tuskeegee).  Just imagine how many projects that we do not know about. i am very glad that aj covered it in endgame.  leaves even sub-elites with no defense available to support NWO for one second longer.

More on this (watch this video and understant the implications for socialized medicine):

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7749694216572836816
In 1951, the director general of the Israeli Health Ministry, Dr. Chaim Sheba flew to America and returned with 7 x-ray machines, supplied  to him by the American army.

They were to be used in a mass atomic experiment with an entire generation of Sephardi youths to be used as guinea pigs. Every Sephardi child was to be given 35,000 times the maximum dose of x-rays through his head. For doing so, the American government paid the Israeli government 300 million Israeli liras a year. The entire Health budget was 60 million liras. The money paid by the Americans is equivalent to billions of dollars today. To fool the parents of the victims, the children were taken away on "school trips" and their parents were later told the x-rays were a treatment for the scourge of scalpal ringworm. 6,000 of the children died shortly after their doses were given, while many of the rest developed cancers that killed them over time and are still killing them now. While living, the victims suffered from disorders such as epilepsy, amnesia, Alzheimer's disease, chronic headaches and psychosis.
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« Reply #81 on: November 23, 2007, 10:25:33 AM »

A couple of years ago we were at the JazzFest in New Orleans.  As we sat in the crowd watching B.B. King planes started criss crossing overhead leaving these lovely trails.  I have pictures somewhere in my computer that I took of them.  I knew very little of this at that time.  That ever happens to us again we're out of there, into the car and leaving the scene -- not that leaving will help - but it's better than being right under it out in the open!  I keep 3M face masks in my car at all times - you just never know when you're going to be subjected to a toxic plume of "helpful" chemicals! 
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« Reply #82 on: November 23, 2007, 12:04:18 PM »

Is there any proof that these are not simply air turbulations from jet engines? What can I say to someone to convince them that they're not caused by jet engines? Any tips from you guys?
Well, ask them for any photographic evidence of these things taken before the 90's.
I'd also recommend them to look into the Beijing weather modification office and the following article:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4398507,00.html
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« Reply #83 on: November 23, 2007, 01:15:10 PM »

I have two questions about chemtrails, hopefully someone can answer them Smiley

A few weeks ago I saw the first chemtrails in the area I live, here in Germany. They were maybe 10 -15 miles away up in the sky, they seemed to be pretty far away. what do you think how much this chemicals are spreading, could ot be dangerous even if they were this far away? seconds question is, if they are spraying on very cloudy days or does that hinder the chemicals in reaching the ground?
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« Reply #84 on: November 23, 2007, 05:44:21 PM »

I have two questions about chemtrails, hopefully someone can answer them Smiley

A few weeks ago I saw the first chemtrails in the area I live, here in Germany. They were maybe 10 -15 miles away up in the sky, they seemed to be pretty far away. what do you think how much this chemicals are spreading, could ot be dangerous even if they were this far away? seconds question is, if they are spraying on very cloudy days or does that hinder the chemicals in reaching the ground?

They are highly dangerous for multiple reasons. This thread and several of the posts describe their effects on the human body. Most notabley is the disease it causes called morgellons disease. http://www.rense.com/general71/mmor.htm is a really good article and has a link to two people who wrote a diary about their experiences having the disease.

Aside from that the chemical componenets are several known biotoxins ranging from Triclosan-35 ( simmilar to the Triclosan anti bacterial compound found in detergents, now banned in the UK) ,Ba aka Barium a radio-active element often used in weather control experiments as an amplification / reciever substance, as well as Aluminum (which causes alzheimer's), as well as a custom engineer bio patheogen ( a mold that seems to have a sole pourpose of attacking and limmiting the human immune system, and lastly what appear to be nano machines (microscopic machines capable of reproduicing as well as a variety of other tasks).

So this stuff is very dangerous on numerous levels. As far as saturation goes the optimal rate for true HARP and NEXRAD conductivity would most likely be at around 500-600 ppm concentration with standard air molecules -at ground level, with higher concentrations at higher altitudes ranging near the 1000+ ppm (parts per million) range in the lower ionosphere. The goal is to maintain a homogenous plasma state throughout our entire atmosphere. (realize my figures are merely guestimations based on my own research and that actual concentration levels be higher or lower +/- 150ppm deppending on transmitter amplituted.)

This is not something to be taken lightly and shows a glimpse of the true power of supressed technologies these demons have at their disposal.

On a side note ever notice all the grey particulate matter that you clean off the blades of an ionobreeze (if you own one) the danger behind these air filters is they attract high concentrations of  this substance - since they are essentially magnets for the Barium. So next time you see a sharper image commercial touting one of these things think about that. (it's also why turning the setting up way too high for any given space will cause every one in the room to start feeling light headed. despite what the sharper image people will tell you it's reason is{because they realy don't know -, they are just reading their script....}) This is not to say that some of the stuff found on the ionobreeze blades -when you clean them -  isn't what sharper image claims, but when you have such a high concentration of chemtrail stuff in the air to begin with ....

Granted there is a way to actually utilize these ionizers for air filtration however it requeires using them as a pre filter to a whole house solution in which the ionobreeze filters all incomming air prior to it entering the house. The house must be hermitically sealed - to prevent external contamination. (A very expnsive endeveor indeed which would most likely cost you 30 - 50 grand or more depending on the age size and condition of your house.) Although I do hear about this push in the green building movement that is making hermetically sealed houses a reality cost effectively upon their initial construction. However many of the prefab garbage they use(as do most contractors these days :-( ) has componenents that give off toxic gases as they decompose.  So you unfortunately have a catch 22 in that circumstance. Best thing to do would be to build your own if you should have the resources and opportunity. Otherwise looking into face masks is a much more practicle solution for most of us.

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« Reply #85 on: November 24, 2007, 11:35:36 AM »

I wonder if it would be possible to tail one of these planes once they are recognized to be spraying?  I mean, be on the ground, notice the plane spraying and coming in your general direction, waiting until they pass and then taking off after them to see where they go.  Can this be done?  I mean, would the FAA have a hissy fit about it?  Maybe we could find out the markings on some of these planes, where they are landing, or even be directly in the chemtrail "tail", before it starts fanning out, and get some of that crap scooped up for an even more detailed analysis?

Anyone here fly a small plane?
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« Reply #86 on: November 24, 2007, 01:29:25 PM »

I wonder if it would be possible to tail one of these planes once they are recognized to be spraying?  I mean, be on the ground, notice the plane spraying and coming in your general direction, waiting until they pass and then taking off after them to see where they go.  Can this be done?  I mean, would the FAA have a hissy fit about it?  Maybe we could find out the markings on some of these planes, where they are landing, or even be directly in the chemtrail "tail", before it starts fanning out, and get some of that crap scooped up for an even more detailed analysis?

Anyone here fly a small plane?

That's a really good (and possibly bad) idea. I'd imagine you'd end up intruding in military or some airport's airspace without informing them eventually if you could keep up.
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« Reply #87 on: November 24, 2007, 07:50:57 PM »

Here's another idea then: What about getting a geiger counter and measuring the levels of radiation before, during, and for several hours after spraying?  Much of the material sprayed would drift away before it reached the ground, but what if you knew in advance that it was being sprayed west of you a bit, so you could measure it?  Would barium, or whatever the hell they're spraying, be detected by a geiger counter, I wonder?

Most cities should show what... 12 microroentgens?  An interesting observation can be made if this is indeed radioactive material being dropped on us...

That might be an interesting project in and of itself - to go around various cities in the country, measuring the levels of radiation all over.  Interesting idea...
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« Reply #88 on: November 24, 2007, 08:12:30 PM »

Here's another idea then: What about getting a geiger counter and measuring the levels of radiation before, during, and for several hours after spraying?  Much of the material sprayed would drift away before it reached the ground, but what if you knew in advance that it was being sprayed west of you a bit, so you could measure it?  Would barium, or whatever the hell they're spraying, be detected by a geiger counter, I wonder?

Most cities should show what... 12 microroentgens?  An interesting observation can be made if this is indeed radioactive material being dropped on us...

That might be an interesting project in and of itself - to go around various cities in the country, measuring the levels of radiation all over.  Interesting idea...

It aught to register some change Ba is radioactive. Not as heavily as other elements being that it is the first radioactive element on the periodic table but enough to register.

I quite like the idea and if I had a gieger counter  at my disposal I would gladly give it a try. Sadly I don't.

The first sugestion would be trouble some because the FAA has strict rules about maintaining your assigned air space for the flight plan you must give them before you take off :-/. So while you could most likely do it the cops would most likely be waiting to arrest you upon landing. :-(

But the gieger counter idea is definately a great one to test if any one has the resources. So any college kids taking physics courses or advanced physics who read this take notice :-).
You should be able to check out a gieger counter for use for class projects (and what a great project this would make for a physics class imho.) Thanks for posting that idea Infowarrior.
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« Reply #89 on: November 24, 2007, 08:34:29 PM »

Well we've got enough people interested at least to begin with.  The next step is to get PROOF of what's going on, so we can bring irrefutable evidence with us to those who can make a REAL big deal of this.  A geiger counter might just be one way that we can move forward.  Of course, more videos of these sprays worldwide is also needed.

Did a quick check and found this site: http://www.geigercounters.com/  I wonder if anyone interested in this would be willing to get that networking version of their measurement software, and we could examine the correlations nationwide between any elevated levels of radiation and chemtrail spraying?  Smiley

Those counters are probably a bit cost prohibitive for most people, but I'm sure SOME people would have access to a counter with a digital readout.  I've got several universities around me.  Maybe one of them have something... dunno.

And btw - I'm not trying to SAY there is any correlation, or SCARE anyone.  I'm just raising a question, and am wondering if anyone can help conclude this one way or the other.  If barium, or god-forbid, low levels of DU, are being released in the sky, those radioactive particles are falling to the Earth eventually.

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« Reply #90 on: November 24, 2007, 10:08:18 PM »

Indeed infowarrior , once again good point eloquently put.
I'm looking into that idea now got the demo version of their software, I wonder if it works without a geiger counter to post data with ....

http://www.radiationnetwork.com/GeigerNetDemo.exe

They also seem to  have an interesting real time image of specific sites.:

http://www.radiationnetwork.com/RadiationNetwork.htm

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« Reply #91 on: November 24, 2007, 10:09:32 PM »

I'm interested in learning more about this phenomenon. Thank you this post!
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« Reply #92 on: November 24, 2007, 10:21:11 PM »

I'm interested in learning more about this phenomenon. Thank you this post!

Cool you are quite welcome.

So my question has been answered you can indeed use this software to monitor any existing remote Geiger graph open to the public without having to own a geiger counter.

However the demo is limited to a 5 station total count in what it will monitor. No better than their map I posted before.

Still very interesting I will have to play with this application a bit and see what I can find. Hopefully in the near future finances permitting - I'll grab a copy.(it's only $80 but I'm on a budget atm)


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« Reply #93 on: November 25, 2007, 05:25:42 AM »

I've seen 3 planes (UK), all silver, all had an orange stripe up the tail at the rear edge. This was through a telescope. One was spraying a chemtrail. The other two weren't even leaving a contrail. All in close proximity to each other and same height. I'd say they were the size of a small airliner.

On another occasion I've seen a plane, higher up this time, spraying a chemtrail. What was odd was the plane appeared to have a 'black' chemtrail type thing 'in front' of it that it was following along. I thought 'optical illusion' but after hearing about other cases I don't know what to make of this. When I first heard about this black line thing I thought 'certain bullshit' but seeing one changes your mind. Very Odd !
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« Reply #94 on: November 25, 2007, 06:51:18 PM »

Why won't any pilot's blow the whistle, if they know about it even. there has to be mass evidence sitting on the ground for this we just need a break in the line somewhere.
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« Reply #95 on: November 25, 2007, 08:17:47 PM »

Why won't any pilot's blow the whistle, if they know about it even. there has to be mass evidence sitting on the ground for this we just need a break in the line somewhere.

As far as I know, Will Thomas was a commercial pilot as well as being a leading chemtrail researcher now. I'm not sure if that really counts as "blowing the whistle" but the fact he was a pilot should count for something.
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« Reply #96 on: November 25, 2007, 09:53:58 PM »

Well, I am so glad to see this thread is still alive and kicking..... let's keep it that way.

We were discussing this topic a month ago on this thread http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?board=283.0 and the consensus was we were just seeing contrails, which we all know is a bunch of horse sh*t!!

Here's a fun thing to do. The next time you see them getting started, go to weatherunderground or weather channel on the net, and just start watching the sat photos of your area. You will see the lines show up, and then spread out into the spider web clouds that last for hours and hours.

Where I live, it is not an everyday ocurrance, they mostly like to deliver in more densely populated areas for some reason. I can see them off in the distant horizons most of the time.

This stuff is real, and there are so many theories out there on the net. Barium seems to be one of the chief ingredients in their spray, a lot of people believe it to be used in weather control. http://www.rense.com/general79/barium.htm Very well could be..... I am still undecided as to the real reason.

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« Reply #97 on: November 25, 2007, 10:02:17 PM »

I must say that I am a skeptic on the chemtrail topic, BUT....you guys do have me wondering now....which should be your ultimate goal.  Good job posing the questions.

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« Reply #98 on: November 26, 2007, 12:58:24 AM »

From what I 'understand' about Chemtrails is this...

There are a 'few' instances in which these serve much large, significant purposes.

Firstly, for those who don't know, ask yourself this.... Why would they want to 'suspend' particles in the air? Contrails are obviously temporary because their composed mostly from moisture. Dur... but regardless we are seeing particles that hover in the air nearly all day long until dusk creating a 'hazy' appearance on the horizon.

I've got a few photos to show this as well, almost like a checkboard in its appearance.

Secondly, from what I've found, most of the chemicals are Barium, Aluminum, Lead, Manganese, and other heavy metals.

Obviously what we're seeing here is a patch work of clouds that could easily hold an electrical charge. More or less from what I've seen an ionicsphere heater (HAARP) could be used to electrically charge this 'medium' and could technically take down a ICBM? Doubtful I would assume and regardless, we would still be posed with fallout, right?

Regardless the idea is that its use could be for a missle defense system.

Ok, but further down from there we can see some scary shit.

I've heard that with this increased particle density, we could essientally slam to lasers of seperate frequencies to create an 'atomic' explosion... or in other words a super large industrial scale Tesla weapon system.

Not to forget the fact that I've heard barium when exposed to ultra violet light can actually record analog sounds / images...

f**king nuts! Fact is stranger then fiction.

But, I'm not 100% certain of this being the case, and I've heard of other numerous uses for this system, all of which equate out to us being spied on, attacked by high frequency particle waves that essentially could be used to 'mind control' people, as well as a huge space controlled laser beam. Which sadly enough I believe IS the case considering specific legislation being thrown around through congress that limits the use of 'high altitude weaponry'. I'm none too sure on the name of this legislation, but I had stumbled upon it a while back before even really looking into chemtrails.

All in all, I believe ALL of the applications mentioned in the latter paragraphs could be easily accomplished by this offensive / defensive weapons system... and it definately is something we should all be concerned about.
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« Reply #99 on: November 26, 2007, 06:40:04 AM »

Obviously what we're seeing here is a patch work of clouds that could easily hold an electrical charge. More or less from what I've seen an ionicsphere heater (HAARP) could be used to electrically charge this 'medium' and could technically take down a ICBM? Doubtful I would assume and regardless, we would still be posed with fallout, right?
Something like that would definitely spread fallout over a larger area with the wind because it exploded so high up.

On the barium being able to record analog images and sound issue... I've never heard that before and I'd be interested if you could find anything on that. If so, that would make it that much scarier.
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« Reply #100 on: November 26, 2007, 06:46:12 AM »

Indeed Hellcatjr. I've heard alot of simmilar things to what you've mentioned in your post + alot more.

I will just say as I have stated before HAARP when coupled with carrier substances (ie Ba), NEXRAD systems, and global ELF monitoring aparatus can be used for terraforming.

I have also heard alot of evidence and supporting research to support hypothesies made in this article that both the US and russia have weather control technology.... http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/harnessing_weather.html





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« Reply #101 on: November 26, 2007, 06:52:36 AM »

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On the barium being able to record analog images and sound issue... I've never heard that before and I'd be interested if you could find anything on that. If so, that would make it that much scarier.

Ba helps amplify ELF harmonics as well as UFH harmonics. Most TEMPEST monitoring equiptment is supposed to utilize emmisions in the ELF bands to  garnish information.

For a primer in what TEMPEST is http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=15993.0 is a thread I posted on the subject a few days ago with some good links.


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« Reply #102 on: November 26, 2007, 06:58:46 AM »

It helps the "They Live" signal for mass deception.
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« Reply #103 on: November 26, 2007, 09:00:43 AM »

I've seen 3 planes (UK), all silver, all had an orange stripe up the tail at the rear edge. This was through a telescope. One was spraying a chemtrail. The other two weren't even leaving a contrail. All in close proximity to each other and same height. I'd say they were the size of a small airliner.

On another occasion I've seen a plane, higher up this time, spraying a chemtrail. What was odd was the plane appeared to have a 'black' chemtrail type thing 'in front' of it that it was following along. I thought 'optical illusion' but after hearing about other cases I don't know what to make of this. When I first heard about this black line thing I thought 'certain bullshit' but seeing one changes your mind. Very Odd !

I've also seen vids on youtube of some close up shots of the planes your talking about.  They were taken in the UK as well.  Here's a shot of one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QILXvlznw48

There is a lot of orange on the tail of the plane.



People have also seen the black chem trails your talking about.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uawSw3_FsMQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzMwFR7RMPg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9moZX5zMks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enxcnnUz9IU


The other night I heard planes about 2am.  I stepped outside and was horrified.  This spraying was taking place under the shadows of night and I could make out chem trails by the light of the moon.  I tried to take a photo but there was not enough light to see.

By the way.  Notice the frequency of this stuff popping up in advertisements and pop culture.  They are trying to desensitize us too.  I've been picking up on that more lately.


Here are some examples:




SAKS FIFTH AVE AD:  MOURNING THE DEATH OF NATURE
The flat screen monitor is placed on the pedestal in a way that is reminiscent of how a coffin is placed, so that the grieving can view the remains of the dearly departed.
Except in this image with its chemtrail-filled sky it is the death of the natural world that is being grieved.
The model is sitting, not standing, an arrangement that puts emphasis on the chemtrail filled screen and not on the model, suggesting the important aspect  of this  image is not fashion but rather what is being shown on the screen.
Dressed in the color of grieving, the black-garbed model stares out at us mournfully with a look that manages to be both sad and angry, a look that challenges us to to look up at the sky, see what is going on and comprehend the gravity of the situation.



That one is pretty blatant.



U.S Postal Service Engaged in Psyops?
Cloudscapes, a new series of stamps issued by the US Postal Service looks suspiciously like subliminal conditioning, that is, a social engineering campaign to alter the way people perceive, think or act.  Obvious chemtrail images are included on these stamps, no doubt to subconsciously influence us into believing that what we are seeing in the skies is perfectly normal and nothing to be alarmed about (...move along folks... nothing unusual going on here..the sky has always looked like this.)



CINDERELLA'S CHEMTRAILED CASTLE
Recently several large movie studios have changed the background clouds in their corporate logos to look more like the smeary mess of elongated fake clouds created by chemtrails. 

 Other researchers have reported U.S. intelligence agencies own or control 50% of U.S. media, in particular,exerting a huge amount of behind the scenes power and influence in Hollywood.

I have long suspected that many movies are part of an ongoing PSYOPS to influence the minds of the masses in certain directions, influencing popular beliefs and views of reality. 

The recent change by several major Hollywood studios to the use of chemtrail imagery in their logos appears to be part of an ongoing government PSYOPS with the intention of subliminally convincing us that these fake clouds are normal, that the sky has always looked this way.



WARNER BROS ON THE CHEMTRAIL BANDWAGON?
Perhaps you remember the older Warner Bros logo showing big fluffy white natural clouds.  The studio's current logo has been redesigned with the clouds being made to look more like the elongated, streaky chemtrail monstrosities that have been blighting our skies.



COLUMBIA STUDIOS CHEMTRAILS & RAINBOWS
COLUMBIA is another motion picture studio that seems to be saluting chemtrails in all of their new and current logos.  If you have seen the animated version of this logo perhaps you  have noticed the background with animated chemtrails streaming across the sky.

 The "Statue of Liberty" is a representation  of the Babylonian/Egyptian Goddess, Isis Queen of Heaven.  Isis has been worshiped down through milinea under many names, Hathor, Semiramis, Ishtar are a few of these.  Isis holds high the flaming, eternal torch representing Luciferian Light.  The rainbow colors have occult significance.  The rainbow is considered by some as the bridge symbol leading to the Satanic world of the New World Order.



MORE SUBLIMINAL CHEMTRAIL IMAGERY FROM COLUMBIA
I personally find the use of subliminal chemtrail imagery by many of the major motion picture studios to be offensive in the extreme. The chemtrails rain down death and disease bringing sickness, disability and death to many. The Killer Chemtrails must be a very important part of the plan to bring on the NWO as they are being shown now in so many corporate logos and advertisments.  I am appalled by these sly, subliminal coporate chemtrail images and have resolved not to patronize in any manner any corporation, movie studio or business that engages in promoting NWO depopulation goals and philosophy. Why should I give my money to groups actively supporting programs that have already harmed me and my family?  Why would anyone support these people?



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New Money Showing Chemtrails Over The White House?
The older bills do not show clouds in the background above The White House. How interesting that with the ongoing chemtrail spraying all denominations of the newer bills now show clouds above The White House (clouds that look suspiciously like HAARP modulated chem-clouds).  This may be an example of "Ritual Mockery" or "Revelation of the Method" as described by Michael Hoffman in his brilliant book, Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare.  Hoffman's book delves into the hidden meaning of the twilight language and symbolism of the Cryptocracy.

How interesting indeed that while the U.S. Government denies the very existence of chemtrails both U.S. Postal stamps and U.S. currency are now making use of chemtrail imagery.

{Some of the comments on some of these pictures are from this site: http://imageevent.com/firesat/strangedaysstrangeskies?z=3&c=4&n=1&m=-1&w=4&x=0&p=14 }
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« Reply #104 on: November 26, 2007, 10:02:32 AM »

riian - there is no conpiracy - chemtrails make nicer logos
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« Reply #105 on: November 26, 2007, 01:07:54 PM »

Hi Riian... I had a look at that orange tail video. The plane was similar to what I saw but, in the case I saw, the orange was actually a stripe up the rear trailing edge of the actual vertical rudder... not around the body. However it does point to orange markings being used in general for this work.

Something occurred to me. Can chemtrails be tracked on radar? Can magnetic forces be plotted via this analysis? Pole Shift and the Global Grid come to mind.
Just an idea I thought I'd throw into the mix.
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« Reply #106 on: November 26, 2007, 02:31:38 PM »

Alright....You guys got me interested enough to actually do some research into the Chemtrails.  If you google it, the first hit is this website:  http://educate-yourself.org/ct/  .  These are the sites that you guys, and all truthers, must distance yourselves from.  Spreading the word is fine, great in fact, but when you get off of the beaten track and start talking about Spirits or Elementals interacting with your "best wishes"-mind power, you really start to lose peoples' interst.

It is good for us truthers to read these sites because it will teach you about what turns people off to your ideas.  It is not always "stupid people", or "Ignorant Americans".  More than that it is ridiculous ideas and statements made in the name of your topic that people will just rip apart.

Personally I plan on continuing my research and deciding for myself at a later time, when better informed.

Just thought I would let people know what some are posting in the name of "truth about chemtrails".

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« Reply #107 on: November 26, 2007, 05:44:20 PM »

Dan, do your research and then come to conclusions. It works better that way round. You will be suprised what turns out to be accurate and what doesn't. You are right in saying some of the off beaten track subjects are probably best left in the cupboard when dealing with newcomers. However don't make the mistake of thinking that yourself. There is some incredible science going on just now, as you'll find out, if you keep at it. Good Luck. Grin
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« Reply #108 on: November 27, 2007, 09:29:49 AM »

my first experience with chemtrails is at http://www.californiachemtrailchristmas.info
some pics at the bottom of that page too

i look much better now than I did last Xmas! lol

anyway, more recent postings are on my blog at http://www.itsmynet.info/GARKO.blog/?p=933
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« Reply #109 on: November 27, 2007, 02:11:23 PM »

I'm 56 years old and have been a sky watcher all my life.  Chemtrails are screamingly obvious to me and have been since I first noticed them around 1990. During that time period many young people have grown to adulthood and don't even remember what a normal sky looks like. 
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« Reply #110 on: November 27, 2007, 03:12:52 PM »

I'm brought back by a random thought. In some ways if I could snap my fingers and change 1 small thing associated with this whole ugly NWO thing it would be chemtrails. For those who see how things work the chemtrails are a constant reminder that everything is under control and nothing is out of reach by the establishment, secret gvt, etc. You can't go off into the wilderness of even a desolate canyon or a large expanse of mountains and forests in the US and be free of them. Perhaps on rare days with no spray you can get the deep, healthy azure blue but these spray trails are often inescapable. The psychological impact alone when aware is great. ..just my two cents.
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I'm brought back by a random thought. In some ways if I could snap my fingers and change 1 small thing associated with this whole ugly NWO thing it would be chemtrails. For those who see how things work the chemtrails are a constant reminder that everything is under control and nothing is out of reach by the establishment, secret gvt, etc. You can't go off into the wilderness of even a desolate canyon or a large expanse of mountains and forests in the US and be free of them. Perhaps on rare days with no spray you can get the deep, healthy azure blue but these spray trails are often inescapable. The psychological impact alone when aware is great. ..just my two cents.

I agree. There's often a small voice in my head that begs, be blissful again!! Stop caring, look away! But it's hard, I can't help but sit and stew on it and ask more and more questions...
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« Reply #112 on: November 27, 2007, 09:18:36 PM »

Dan, and any others that are not sure what to believe about chemtrails.  My first introduction to the chemtrail issue came about at Scott AFB, IL in 1997.  Working with retired and active duty fliers we'd watch as this stuff was being dispersed and conversation led to investigation.  Turns out that the patent data on the process is long term program first thought of when we were building our first nuke.  I've cut and pasted a story from rense for your consideration:

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1974 US Navy Chemtrail Patent!
What Have They
Achieved Since Then?

7-18-00
 
 
 
This is a highly-interesting US Navy patent. In the 25 years since this patent was granted, one can only wonder at the advances and refinements have evolved from this patented delivery system and technology of creating/spraying chemtrails in the skies above.
 
* Note the small particulate sizes cited: from .03 to 4.5 microns
 
* As the Summary says:
 
"Other object, advantages and novel features of the invention will become apparent from the following detailed description of the invention..."
 
And, at the end of the patent:
 
"Other type powder compositions (read: bio/chem agents) can also be used..."
 
"Obviously, many modifications and variations of the present invention are possible in the light of the above teachings. It is therefore to be understood that within the scope of the appended claims the invention may be practiced otherwise than as specifically described."
 
* In other words, and to repeat: in the quarter century since this particular patent was granted, unlimited other applications and delivery modalities/refinements would be expected to emanate from this early technology.
 
* Note: The "other patents that reference this patent" are all blank when clicked...their information is 'not available.'
 
 
Thanks to Chuck Gode in Portland for alerting us to this patent data...an important clue in the burgeoning chemtrail mystery. -JR
 
 
 
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Inventor(s):
Werle; Donald K. , Hillside, IL
Kasparas; Romas , Riverside, IL
Katz; Sidney , Chicago, IL
 
Applicant(s):
The United States of America as represented by the Secretary of the Navy, Washington, DC News, Profiles, Stocks and More about this company
 
Issued/Filed Dates: Aug. 12, 1975 / July 22, 1974
 
Application Number: US1974000490610
 
IPC Class: B64D 1/16;
 
Class: Current: 244/136; 040/213; 116/214; 241/005;
Original: 244/136; 040/213; 116/114.F; 241/005;
 
Field of Search: 244/136 040/213 241/5,29 222/3;4 239/171 116/28 R,114
R,114 F,114 N,124 R,124 B,124 C
 
Legal Status: Gazette date Code Description (remarks) List all possible codes for US
Aug. 12, 1975 A Patent
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July 22, 1974 AE Application data
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Abstract
 
Light scattering pigment powder particles, surface treated to minimize inparticle cohesive forces, are dispensed from a jet mill deagglomerator as separate single particles to produce a powder contrail having maximum visibility or radiation scattering ability for a given weight material.
 
 
Attorney, Agent, or Firm: Sciascia; Richard S.; St. Amand; Joseph M.; Primary/Assistant Examiners: Blix; Trygve M.; Kelmachter; Barry L.
 
U.S. References: Show the 1 patent that references this one
 
Patent Issued Inventor(s)
Title
US1619183* 3 /1927 Bradner et al.
US2045865* 6 /1936 Morey
US2591988* 4 /1952 Willcox
US3531310 9 /1970 Goodspeed et al. PRODUCTION OF IMPROVED METAL
OXIDE PIGMENT
USR0015771* 2 /1924 Savage
 
* some details unavailable

 
 
CLAIMS:
 
1. Contrail generation apparatus for producing a powder contrail having
maximum radiation
scattering ability for a given weight material, comprising:
 
a. an aerodynamic housing;
b. a jet tube means passing through said housing, said tube means having an inlet at a forward end of said housing and an exhaust at a rearward end thereof;
c. a powder storage means in said housing;
d. a deagglomeration means also in said housing;
e. means connecting said powder storage means with said deagglomeration
means for feeding
radiation scattering powder from said powder storage means to said deagglomeration means;
f. the output of said deagglomeration means dispensing directly into said jet tube means for
exhausting deagglomerated powder particles into the atmosphere to form a contrail; and
h. means for controlling the flow of said powder from said storage means to said deagglomeration means.
 
2. Apparatus as in claim 1 wherein said jet tube means is a ram air jet tube.
3. Apparatus as in claim 1 wherein an upstream deflector baffle is provided at the output of said
deagglomeration means into said jet tube means to produce a venturi effect for minimizing back
pressure on said powder feeding means.
4. Apparatus as in claim 1 wherein said deagglomerator means comprises:
 
a. means for subjecting powder particles from said powder storage means to a hammering action to aerate and precondition the powder; and
b. a jet mill means to further deagglomerate the powder into separate particles.
 
5. Apparatus as in claim 4 wherein pressurized gas means is provided for operating said
deagglomeration means.
6. Apparatus as in claim 1 wherein said radiation scattering powder
particles are titanium
dioxide pigment having a median particle size of about 0.3 microns.
7. Apparatus as in claim 1 wherein said radiation scattering powder
particles have a coating of extremely fine hydrophobic colloidal silica thereon to minimize interparticle cohesive forces.
8. Apparatus as in claim 1 wherein the formulation of said powder consists of 85% by weight of
TiO2 pigment of approximately 0.3 micron media particle size, 10% by weight of colloidal silica of
0.007 micron primary particle size, and 5% by weight of silica gel having an average particle size of 4.5 microns.
9. The method of producing a light radiation scattering contrail, comprising:
 
a. surface treating light scattering powder particles to minimize
interparticle cohesive forces;
b. deagglomerating said powder particles in two stages prior to dispensing into a jet tube
by subjecting said powder particles to a hammering action in the first stage to aerate and
precondition the powder, and by passing said powder through a jet mill in the second stage
to further deagglomerate the powder;
c. dispensing the deagglomerated powder from the jet mill directly into a jet tube for
exhausting said powder into the atmosphere, thus forming a contrail.
 
10. A method as in claim 9 wherein said light scattering powder particles is titanium dioxide pigment.
11. A method as in claim 9 wherein said powder particles are treated with a coating of extremely
fine hydrophobic colloidal silica to minimize interparticle cohesive forces.
12. A method as in claim 11 wherein said treated powder particles are further protected with a silica gel powder.
 
Background/Summary:
 
BACKGROUND
 
The present invention relates to method and apparatus for contrail generation and the like. An earlier known method in use for contrail generation involves oil smoke trails produced by injecting liquid oil directly into the hot jet exhaust of an aircraft target vehicle. The oil vaporizes and recondenses being the aircraft producing a brilliant white trail. Oil smoke trail production requires a minimum of equipment; and, the material is low in cost and readily available. However, oil smoke requires a heat source to vaporize the liquid oil and not all aircraft target vehicles, notably towed targets, have such a heat source. Also, at altitudes above about 25,000 feet oil smoke visibility degrades rapidly.
 
SUMMARY
 
The present invention is for a powder generator requiring no heat source to emit a "contrail" with sufficient visibility to aid in visual acquisition of an aircraft target vehicle and the like. The term "contrail" was adopted for convenience in identifying the visible powder trail of this invention. Aircraft target vehicles are used to simulate aerial threats for missile tests and often fly at altitudes between 5,000 and 20,000 feet at speeds of 300 and 400 knots or more. The present invention is also suitable for use in other aircraft vehicles to generate contrails or reflective screens for any desired purpose. The powder contail generator is normally carried on an aircraft in a pod containing a ram air tube and powder feed hopper. Powder particles, surface treated to minimize interparticle cohesive forces are fed from the hopper to a deagglomerator and then to the ram air tube for dispensing as separate single particles to produce a contrail having maximum visibility for a given weight material. Other object, advantages and novel features of the invention will become apparent from the following detailed description of the invention when considered in conjunction with the accompanying drawing.
 
Drawing Descriptions:
 
DESCRIPTION OF DRAWING
 
FIG. 1 is a schematic sectional side-view of a powder contrail generator of the present invention.
 
 
DESCRIPTION OF PREFERRED EMBODIMENT
 
The powder contail generator in pod 10, shown in FIG. 1, is provided with a powder feed hopper 12 positioned in the center section of the pod and which feeds a powder 13 to a deagglomerator 14 by means of screw conveyors 16 across the bottom of the hopper. The deagglomerator 14 produces two stages of action. In the first stage of deagglomeration, a shaft 18 having projecting radial rods 19 in compartment 20 is rotated by an air motor 21, or other suitable drive means. The shaft 18 is rotated at about 10,000 rpm, for example. As powder 13 descends through the first stage compartment 20 of the deagglomeration chamber, the hammering action of rotating rods 19 serves to aerate and precondition the powder before the second stage of deagglomeration takes place in the jet mill section 22. In the jet mill 22, a plurality of radial jets 24 (e.g., six 0.050 inch diamter radial jets) direct nitrogen gas (at e.g., 120 psig) inward to provide energy for further deagglomeration of the powder. The N2, or other suitable gas, is provided from storage tanks 25 and 26, for example, in the pod.
 
The jet mill 22 operates in a similar manner to commercial fluid energy mills except that there is no provision for recirculation of oversize particles. Tests with the deagglomerator show that at a feed rate of approximately 11/2 lb/min, treated titanium dioxide powder pigment is effectively dispersed as single particles with very few agglomerates evident.
 
The nitrogen gas stored in cylinder tanks 25 and 26 is charged to 1800 psig, for example. Two stages of pressure reduction, for example, by pressure reduction valves 28 and 29, bring the final delivery pressure at the radial jets 24 and to the air motor 21 to approximately 120 psig. A solenoid valve 30 on the 120 psig line is connected in parallel with the electric motor 32 which operates the powder feeder screws 16 for simultaneous starting and running of the powder feed, the air motor and the jet mill deagglomerator.
 
Air enters ram air tube 34 at its entrance 35 and the exhaust from the jet mill deagglomerator passes directly into the ram air tube. At the deagglomerator exhaust 36 into ram air tube 34, an upstream deflector baffle 38 produces a venturi effect which minimizes back pressure on the powder feed system. The powder is then jetted from the exhaust end 40 of the ram air tube to produce a contrail. A pressure equalization tube, not shown, can be used to connect the top of the closed hopper 12 to the deagglomeration chamber 14. A butterfly valve could be provided at the powder hopper outlet 39 to completely isolate and seal off the powder supply when not in use. Powder 13 could then be stored in hopper 12 for several weeks, without danger of picking up excessive moisture, and still be adequately dispensed.
 
Preparation of the light scatter powder 13 is of a critical importance to production of a powder "contrail" having maximum visibility for a given weight of material. It is essential that the pigment powder particles be dispensed as separate single particles rather than as agglomerates of two or more particles. The powder treatment produces the most easily dispersed powder through the use of surface treatments which minimize interparticle cohesive forces. Titanium dioxide pigment was selected as the primary light scattering material because of its highly efficient light scattering ability and commercially available pigment grades. Titanium dioxide pigment (e.g., DuPont R--931) with a median particle size of about 0.3µ has a high bulk density and is not readily aerosolizable as a submicron cloud without the consumption of a large amount of deagglomeration energy. In order to reduce the energy requirement for deagglomeration, the TiO2 powder is specially treated with a hydrophobic colloidal silica which coats and separates the individual TiO2 pigment particles. The extremely fine particulate nature (0.007µ primary particle size) of Cobot S--101 Silanox grade, for example, of colloidal silica minimizes the amount needed to coat and separate the TiO2 particles, and the hydrophobic surface minimizes the affinity of the powder for absorbtion of moisture from the atmosphere. Adsorbed moisture in powders causes liquid bridges at interparticle contacts and it then becomes necessary to overcome the adsorbed-liquid surface tension forces as well as the weaker Van der Waals' forces before the particles can be separated.
 
The Silanox treated titanium dioxide pigment is further protected from the deleterious effects of adsorbed moisture by incorporation of silica gel. The silica gel preferentially adsorbs water vapor that the powder may be exposed to after drying and before use. The silica gel used is a powder product, such as Syloid 65 from the W. R Grace and Co., Davison Chemical Division, and has an average particle size about 4.5µ and a large capacity for moisture at low humidities.
 
A typical powder composition used is shown in Table 1. This formulation was blended intimately with a Patterson-Kelley Co. twin shell dry LB-model LB--2161 with intensifier. Batches of 1500 g were blended for 15 min. each and packaged in 5-lb cans. The bulk density of the blended powder is 0.22 g/cc. Since deagglomeration is facilitated by having the powder bone dry, the powder should be predried before sealing the cans. In view of long periods (e.g., about 4 months) between powder preparation and use it is found preferable to spread the powder in a thin layer in an open container and place in a 400°F over two days before planned usage. The powder is removed and placed in the hopper about 2 hours before use.
 
 
Table 1
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CONTRAIL POWDER FORMULATION
Ingredient % by Weight
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TiO2 (e.g., DuPont R-931)
85
median particle size 0.3µ
Colloidal Silica (e.g., Cabot S-101 Silanox)
10
primary particle size 0.007µ
Silica gel (e.g., Syloid 65)
5
average particle size 4.5µ
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Other type powder compositions can also be used with the apparatus described herein. For example, various powder particles which reflect electromagnetic radiation can be dispensed as a chaff or the like from the contrail generator.
 
Obviously many modifications and variations of the present invention are possible in the light of the above teachings. It is therefore to be understood that within the scope of the appended claims the invention may be practiced otherwise than as specifically described.

 
 
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« Reply #113 on: November 27, 2007, 10:25:49 PM »

As I was driving to classes earlier this morning, I noticed a very fast, fairly low flying jet with a very long contrail moving over I-57 diaganolly. The contrail remained for at least 30 minutes. Then, something very curious occurred. The jet stopped "spraying" and turned around and headed in the opposite direction back from where it came from, then turned its "spray" back on. It flew increasingly fast right next to its other contrail as if it was a tractor plowing a field in a straight line.

There are no military bases nearby. There are two lakes in the vicinity of the interstate. The jet appeared to be grey in color.

I'm still a little freaked out from it all.
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« Reply #114 on: November 27, 2007, 11:50:59 PM »

my first experience with chemtrails is at http://www.californiachemtrailchristmas.info
some pics at the bottom of that page too

i look much better now than I did last Xmas! lol

anyway, more recent postings are on my blog at http://www.itsmynet.info/GARKO.blog/?p=933

I found this picture from your link most provocative.



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« Reply #115 on: November 28, 2007, 01:52:07 PM »

Heavy spraying outside today.  Now that I pay attention to these things I realize how obvious they are.  There is a grid pattern covering the sky outside my window right now!  It looks like a freakin' war zone!  I am going to start carrying my digital camera around w/me everywhere.  I am going to start taking photos everytime I see it going on.  Last time I saw it this heavy out I got kinda' sick.   Undecided
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« Reply #116 on: November 28, 2007, 08:51:42 PM »

For our family, particularly my wife, we arc and spark almost everything we touch.  In humid conditions that is really odd.  My wife can touch a piece of fruit and get shocked.  My personal experience has been a metallic taste in my mouth and feeling out of sorts when the spraying is heavy.  In fact I can get that taste in my mouth and predict spraying without going outside to look, it's that obvious.  Maybe I'm my own Geiger counter, so to speak.

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« Reply #117 on: November 28, 2007, 09:00:40 PM »

For our family, particularly my wife, we arc and spark almost everything we touch.  In humid conditions that is really odd.  My wife can touch a piece of fruit and get shocked.  My personal experience has been a metallic taste in my mouth and feeling out of sorts when the spraying is heavy.  In fact I can get that taste in my mouth and predict spraying without going outside to look, it's that obvious.  Maybe I'm my own Geiger counter, so to speak.

Damn... not to be prying but where do you live or at the very least what climate where the spray is that heavy? Wherever that is, its very bad to have the taste of Heineken in the air and I want to stay way away from there.
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« Reply #118 on: November 28, 2007, 10:28:33 PM »

Texas Chemtrail Samples Compared To Samples From Venice Italy

http://www.rense.com/general79/chemm.htm

Special Thank You to Dr. Luca Zamengo, independent researcher and chemist, Venice, Italy for supplying his report and sampling results to be utilized in this comparative paper.
 
SPECIAL NOTES:
 
Chemtrail Samples Texas & Moregllon's Samples Collected by
 
Dr. Hildegarde Staninger RIET-1
Industrial Toxicologist/IH & Doctor of Integrative Medicine
 
Originally Reported in Phase II Samples from January 8, 2007 results Received March 20, 2007 PROJECT FMM- Dr. Hildegarde Staninger, RIET-1
 
Morgellon's Special # 7 ­ Project FMM
http://www.rense.com/morgphase/phase2_1.htm
 
Project Contract Labs: AMDL, Inc., Applied Consumer Services, Inc., MIT-Woods Hole, and Lambda Solutions, Inc.
 
 
Filament Deposition Near Venice, Italy
 
http://www.rense.com/general79/ital.htm
 
Samples Collected by Dr. Luca Zamengo, November 10, 2007
( Dr. Luca Zamengo utilized the laboratory facilities of the University of Venice ­ Italy )
 
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2. To demonstrate a modification of microscopic technique that uses a laser light(see caution below) to emphasize those same irregularities within the blood sample.
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4. To examine the blood of an individual with Morgellon's in comparison to the broader sample of five individuals.
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« Reply #119 on: November 29, 2007, 12:55:59 AM »

Heavy spraying outside today.  Now that I pay attention to these things I realize how obvious they are.  There is a grid pattern covering the sky outside my window right now!  It looks like a freakin' war zone!  I am going to start carrying my digital camera around w/me everywhere.  I am going to start taking photos everytime I see it going on.  Last time I saw it this heavy out I got kinda' sick.   Undecided

After I got home I got a few shots of part of the aftermath.  I wish I'd had my camera on me earlier when they were first laying down some of these.







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