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"This war [i.e., the American Civil War of 1861-1865] would never have been possible without the sinister influence of the Jesuits. We owe it to popery that we now see our land reddened with the blood of her noblest sons. Though there were great differences of opinion between the South and the North on the question of slavery, neither Jeff Davis nor anyone of the leading men of the Confederacy would have dared to attack the North, had they not relied on the promises of the Jesuits, that, under the mask of Democracy, the money and the arms of the Roman Catholic, even the arms of France were at their disposal, if they would attack us. I pity the priests, the bishops and monks of Rome in the United States, when the people realize that they are, in great part, responsible for the tears and the blood shed in this war. I conceal what I know, on that subject, from the knowledge of the nation; for if the people knew the whole truth, this war would turn into a religious war, and it would at once, take a tenfold more savage and bloody character. It would become merciless as all religious wars are. It would become a war of extermination on both sides. The Protestants of both the North and the South would surely unite to exterminate the priests and the Jesuits, if they could hear what Professor Morse has said to me of the plots made in the very city of Rome to destroy this Republic, and if they could learn how the priests, the nuns, and the monks, which daily land on our shores, under the pretext of preaching their religion, instructing the people in their schools, taking care of the sick in the hospitals, are nothing else but the emissaries of the Pope, of Napoleon, and the other despots of Europe, to undermine our institutions, alienate the hearts of our people from our constitution, and our laws, destroy our schools, and prepare a reign of anarchy here as they have done in Ireland, in Mexico, in Spain, and wherever there are any people who want to be free."- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865; 16th President of the United States)
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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2007, 11:48:29 AM » |
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thank you for this quote, a great one indeed.
It is a sad reality that the jesuit order has played a most nefarious role in history, with the renowned method of the double cross (indeed it is their sign).
The wordl would alas be a better place with the society of jesus, a less aptly named organisation I truly cannot think of.
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2007, 12:03:10 PM » |
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"My history of the Jesuits is not eloquently written, but it is supported by unquestionable authorities, [and] is very particular and very horrible. Their [the Jesuit Order's] restoration [in 1814 by Pope Pius VII] is indeed a step toward darkness, cruelty, despotism, [and] death. … I do not like the appearance of the Jesuits. If ever there was a body of men who merited eternal damnation on earth and in hell, it is this Society of [Ignatius de] Loyola."- John Adams (1735-1826; 2nd President of the United States)
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2007, 01:43:02 PM » |
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another top class quote, which leaves the reader in no doubt as to the subversive influence of this most sinister of societies
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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2007, 02:53:43 PM » |
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"The Jesuits are a military organization, not a religious order. Their chief is a general of an army, not the mere father abbot of a monastery. And the aim of this organization is POWER. Power in its most despotic exercise. Absolute power, universal power, power to control the world by the volition of a single man...
The General of the Jesuits insists on being master, sovereign, over the sovereign. Wherever the Jesuits are admitted they will be masters, cost what it may...
Every act, every crime, however atrocious, is a meritorious work, if committed for the interest of the Society of the Jesuits, or by the order of its general."- Napoleon I (i.e., Napoleon Bonaparte; 1769-1821; emperor of the French)
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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2007, 03:12:28 PM » |
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Yes the Jesuits are part of the problem but remember that these secret societies existed long before the Vatican.
They are those who follow the Doctrine of Luciferianism, the adepts of the ancient mystery schools.
To get to the root of the problem you have to understand they follow a Philosophy.
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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2007, 03:31:23 PM » |
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“Alas, I knew they [i.e., the Jesuits] would poison me; but I did not expect to die in so slow and cruel a manner.” (1774)- Pope Clement XIV (Who had “forever” abolished the Jesuit Order in 1773)
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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2007, 03:32:37 PM » |
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“[Jesuit Adam] Weishaupt established the [modern version of the] Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being [formally] abolished by [Pope] Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits.”
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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2007, 03:37:57 PM » |
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These Jesuits are all members of Freemasonry.
The "Buck" does not stop at the Vatican door.
You have to stop listening to Greg Szymanski and Erip Phelps, they are CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS .
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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2007, 04:03:35 PM » |
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with the renowned method of the double cross (indeed it is their sign).
I just have to clarify here that this is not a Jesuit Symbol. As it is again much much older. Ive recently does some research on the Double Cross / Cross of Lorraine / Patriarchal Cross / Sigil of Baphomet or as I like to call it Cains Cross. Cain was cursed by God and given a mark so that all would know him. A secret of the Grail Legend is that this mark was a Red Cross. I have recently made a youtube video exposing this secret of the Merovingian bloodline who uses the Red Cross. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0usNNDsQsImore info here: http://infowarsforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2990
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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2007, 04:18:01 PM » |
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 The double red cross is also seen in the Exxon logo.
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« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2007, 04:31:35 PM » |
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Ya, that is a great example.
The stained glass window that Conspiracy Center posted is very telling of their link to freemasonry.
I have a story to tell about the masonic A you see just to the left of the All seeing Eye Aka: Face of Bael.
I was watching a video by some english sounding guy who was narrating his video and talking about the universe. Its not really important what his video was about but he was using a special text that had those masonic A's You can tell the difference because instead of a straight line its an inverted chevron.
So I called him out on it and said he was a freemason and that his video was BS. He mailed me saying that he was going to turn me into my lodge for exposing a secret. I mailed him back saying I was never a member of a lodge and that I never would be. Shortly after he removed the video.
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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2007, 05:23:43 PM » |
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I agree this stuff likely goes back further than Catholicism, but sure as hell the jesuits (and more recently Opus Dei) play a damned sinister role in things and are bloody hard to pin down.
If there is a single Puppet Master as such, then he/she is as likely to be Kovenback or Benedict as anybody else (QEII, Rothschild, D Rockefeller, Bush snr, or other well known options)
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« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2007, 10:54:07 AM » |
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That I may go to any part of the world withersoever I may be sent, to the frozen regions of the North, the burning sands of the desert of Africa, or the jungles of India, to the centers of civilization of Europe, or to the wild haunts of the barbarous savages of America, without murmuring or repining, and will be submissive in all things whatsoever communicated to me.
I furthermore promise and declare that I will, when opportunity present, make and wage relentless war, secretly or openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Liberals, as I am directed to do, to extirpate and exterminate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex or condition; and that I will hang, waste, boil, flay, strangle and bury alive these infamous heretics, rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women and crush their infants' heads against the walls, in order to annihilate forever their execrable race. That when the same cannot be done openly, I will secretly use the poisoned cup, the strangulating cord, the steel of the poniard or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honor, rank, dignity, or authority of the person or persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agent of the Pope or Superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Faith, of the Society of Jesus. Excerpt from the oath of the Society of Jesus, the Jesuit Order
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« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2007, 07:25:29 PM » |
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"It is curious to note too that most of the bodies which work these, such as the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite, the Rite of Avignon, the Order of the Temple, Fessler's Rite, the "Grand Council of the Emperors of the East and West -- Sovereign Prince Masons," etc., etc., are nearly all the offspring of the sons of Ignatius Loyola. The Baron Hundt, Chevalier Ramsay, Tschoudy, Zinnendorf, and numerous others who founded the grades in these rites, worked under instructions from the General of the Jesuits. The nest where these high degrees were hatched, and no Masonic rite is free from their baleful influence more or less, was the Jesuit College of Clermont at Paris."
-Isis Unveiled, H. P. Blavatsky, (Los Angles, California: The Theosophy Company, 1968; originally published in 1877). p.390
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« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2007, 05:13:05 PM » |
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"Between 1555 and 1931 the Society of Jesus [i.e., the Jesuit Order] was expelled from at least 83 countries, city states and cities, for engaging in political intrigue and subversion plots against the welfare of the State, according to the records of a Jesuit priest of repute [Thomas J. Campbell]. …Practically every instance of expulsion was for political intrigue, political infiltration, political subversion, and inciting to political insurrection." (1987)
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« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2007, 12:09:18 PM » |
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"And do Americans need to be told what Jesuits are? If any are ignorant, let them inform themselves of their history without delay; no time is to be lost; their workings are before you in every day’s events; they are a secret society, a sort of Masonic order with super added features of revolting odiousness, and a thousand times more dangerous."
-Samuel Morse (1791-1872; American inventor of the telegraph; author of the book Foreign Conspiracy Against the Liberties of the United States)
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« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2007, 12:30:25 PM » |
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« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2008, 04:26:23 PM » |
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"It is my opinion that if the liberties of this country – the United States of America – are destroyed, it will be by the subtlety of the Roman Catholic Jesuit priests, for they are the most crafty, dangerous enemies to civil and religious liberty. They have instigated most of the wars of Europe."
-Marquis de LaFayette (1757-1834; French statesman and general. He served in the American Continental Army under the command of General George Washington during the American Revolutionary War.)
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« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2008, 06:01:18 PM » |
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« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2008, 05:51:08 AM » |
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superb post,
I recall Alan Watt saying that Cecil Rhodes founded the Chatham House and CFR with the express intent that they should operate with a Jesuit like structure, shrouded in secrecy and deception.
Further, Heinrich Himmler (this is publically admitted) ran the SS using the Jesuit model of absolute obedience and discipline.
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« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2008, 12:55:12 PM » |
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Video: S.S. swearing an oath to serve the Führer(26 sec) “The S.S. organization had been constituted by Himmler according to the principles of the Jesuit Order. Their regulations and the Spiritual Exercises prescribed by Ignatius of Loyola were the model Himmler tried to copy exactly. Himmler's title as supreme chief of the S.S. was to be the equivalent of the Jesuits' 'General' and the whole structure was a close imitation of the Catholic Church's hierarchical order.” -Walter Schellenberg, former chief of Nazi counter-espionage
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« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2008, 01:04:15 PM » |
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thank you for the quote, I knew I had seen it before,
well there is sure as hell a seriously unpleasant similarity between those two oath taking ceremonies, even in the looks on the faces of the participants
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« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2008, 06:44:10 PM » |
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Funny that you should quote freemasons (John Adams and Abraham Lincoln) in your quest for the truth about the Jesuits. And again, it is so obvious that the "Jesuit Oath" is a fake. Just because you found in the in Library of Congress doesn't validate it. It only costs a $30 fee to have something placed in the Library of Congress. Anyone could have put it there for the purpose of deception. The NWO is winning when they see you believing their propaganda about the Jesuits.
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Funny that you should quote freemasons (John Adams and Abraham Lincoln) in your quest for the truth about the Jesuits. And again, it is so obvious that the "Jesuit Oath" is a fake. Just because you found in the in Library of Congress doesn't validate it. It only costs a $30 fee to have something placed in the Library of Congress. Anyone could have put it there for the purpose of deception. The NWO is winning when they see you believing their propaganda about the Jesuits. in Jesu et Mariam
Give it up Catholicportugalian,you ask for sources, you get them and then claim there fake,you have being provided with so many links and you still refuse to accept the truth,yes the NWO will truly win if people can't separate their personal relationship with the Almighty,God,Higher Power etc.and the control mechanism thats been fed through centuries as propaganda.Ignore the truth by all means if it doesn't fit into your perspective but in the end you are only lying to yourself,and accept the deception because the truth is too painful.
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« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2008, 07:22:34 PM » |
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Sometimes I wonder if any of you are NWO pawns. A lot of you sure do sound like it seeing how you refuse to research anything that opposes your ideas about the Catholic church. I would tell all real truth seekers to be on your guard. You never know if someone is only trying to brainwash you. Look at it this way. I simply say it's good to read both sides of the story and then make a REAL educated decision, not to just read one side and say that's got to be the truth. That is all I am going to say in this thread. Real truth seekers, beware of the deceivers!
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« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2008, 07:35:26 PM » |
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Ah Catholicportugalian don't be like that now,if its any consolation to you I was once accused of being a Jesuit agent on the forum  You can't be deceived by the truth only the fear of the truth.
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« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2008, 07:41:41 PM » |
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Ahhhh...now kiss and make up.  Seriuosly lately there is has been so much religious bashing and hatred, and so on. Cant we all just get along, believe it or not the NWO is still brainwashing us so get to work, people.  Be nice. STOP IT!!! and this goes for everyone in here.  
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« Reply #30 on: July 28, 2008, 07:53:02 AM » |
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Really in the end all that happens is people's true colors come out here from what I can tell. We have a lot of people whose anti-Catholicism puts them in league with the KKK and the "Know Nothing Party." Those quotes from Abe Lincoln and so forth are frauds. They were circulated by the KKK and KNP over a hundred years ago, however anti-Catholicism is alive and well here in America so they're still believed and circulated today. I mean I know this is a conspiracy theory website, but come on. How can you guys even believe some of this stuff? Is it really plausible that a religious group is really behind almost every evil in history? And that picture with Adolf Hitler and that made up quote? Ridiculous, as if he really posed in that picture knowing that a "Catholic" Church was behind him, how do we even know that's a Catholic Church?  Look at Mao there, with that temple looking thing in the background, as if that possibly religious temple is the foundation of all his EVIL! And what's worse, we don't know what religion, so the most logical choice is that it must be CATHOLIC! Catholics are communists! See how it works...
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« Reply #31 on: July 28, 2008, 08:14:26 AM » |
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Doesn't matter. We'll take them all out just to be on the safe side, thanks! There is massive evidence that the jesuit's are guilty of involvement and the papacy is an evil empire. There can only be good come out of their destruction.
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Doesn't matter. We'll take them all out just to be on the safe side, thanks! There is massive evidence that the jesuit's are guilty of involvement and the papacy is an evil empire. There can only be good come out of their destruction.
I would love to get my hands on this "evidence," so please spread the wealth! Just a quick question, do you guys realize that you're in league with the KKK and other hate groups, or do you think you're open minded and a normal human being?
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« Reply #33 on: July 28, 2008, 09:27:43 AM » |
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I would love to get my hands on this "evidence," so please spread the wealth! Just a quick question, do you guys realize that you're in league with the KKK and other hate groups, or do you think you're open minded and a normal human being?
noone here is in league with the KKK, further, if you actually look into the symbolism used by the vatican and Jesuits, stuff that is in plane sight and can be confirmed, then you will quickly see that there are a great many references to Horus, Isis/Siramis & Ishtar. You can choose to ignore it or not, but to lay down childish smears is just moronic. Are the jesuits/Vatican at the ehad of the snake, not necessarily, are there a mix of good and bad factions within the Vatican - very likely, but to claim that all is well and that Rome does not have a history of slaughter and dirty power game playing is just ignoring proven facts.
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« Reply #34 on: July 28, 2008, 10:59:33 AM » |
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noone here is in league with the KKK, further, if you actually look into the symbolism used by the vatican and Jesuits, stuff that is in plane sight and can be confirmed, then you will quickly see that there are a great many references to Horus, Isis/Siramis & Ishtar. You can choose to ignore it or not, but to lay down childish smears is just moronic.
Are the jesuits/Vatican at the ehad of the snake, not necessarily, are there a mix of good and bad factions within the Vatican - very likely, but to claim that all is well and that Rome does not have a history of slaughter and dirty power game playing is just ignoring proven facts.
Actually, I have looked into all of this stuff you guys talk about. I'm not a cradle Catholic, I'm a convert. If you think I converted out of pure ignorance, you're dead wrong. The stuff you guys propagate is the stuff of KKK and "Know Nothing" fairytale. So yes, if you listen to the same rumors, believe them, and then spread them, you are in league with the KKK. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck....
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Actually, I have looked into all of this stuff you guys talk about. I'm not a cradle Catholic, I'm a convert. If you think I converted out of pure ignorance, you're dead wrong. The stuff you guys propagate is the stuff of KKK and "Know Nothing" fairytale. So yes, if you listen to the same rumors, believe them, and then spread them, you are in league with the KKK. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck....
well applying that principle you are little more than a troll who has come on here to spread disinfo and hate nobody here hates Catholics, but the power wielding central authorities are another matter, especially those who operate behind the scenes and via SMOM. Might I remind you that jesuits have killed Popes in the past, accusing people here of being in league with the KKK is repulsive
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« Reply #36 on: July 28, 2008, 12:42:53 PM » |
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Biggs, I am very doubtful that there isn't one single person posting in this forum that doesn't hate Catholics. I have been called satanic and a Christ hater and Christ killer in this forum because I am Catholic. If that isn't hate I don't know what is.
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I have been called satanic and a Christ hater and Christ killer in this forum because I am Catholic. If that isn't hate I don't know what is. Ive never called you any of that.Puppet yes, and its a shame theyve called you the above. I dont hate you i think your misguided, but thats what makes it a debate.
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doktor, that is why I didn't name you. It wasn't you that called me those names, but at the same time there are people in this forum who do hate me and all Catholics in general. Calling me a puppet doesn't mean you hate me. Calling me satanic (which someone else I can't remember his name but you can find the post in one of the threads) and saying that I hate Christ and killed Christ does constitute hatred toward me. And not one of you protestants came to my aid when I was being called those names. Only the non religious and the atheists have defended me. It seems to me that they have a lot more charity in their hearts that a lot of people in this forum.
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We'll im sorry they called you those names. There should be no hatred in here. After its all said and done were after the same thing.
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