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« on: April 16, 2008, 04:02:31 PM »

http://www.expelledthemovie.com/

Premiers here in Dallas tonight, I believe- nationwide Apr 18th.

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"It's (EXPELLED) going to appeal strongly to the religious, the paranoid, the conspiracy theorists, and the ignorant –– which means they're going to draw in about 90% of the American market."
-Atheist blogger and fabulist PZ Myers, on a film he has not yet seen.




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On April 18, "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed," will boast the largest U.S. opening of any documentary film ever.

Scheduled for release in 1,000 theatres, "Expelled" will be hotter than "Farenheit 9/11," which debuted on 868 screens, and much more convenient to see than "An Inconvenient Truth," which I was surprised to find opened on only four screens nationwide despite all the hype, peaking at 587 before its appeal melted.

What's "Expelled" about? Synopsizes CNS News:

"Expelled" calls attention to the plight of highly credentialed scholars who have been forced out of prestigious academic positions because they proposed Intelligent Design as a possible alternative to Charles Darwin's 150-year-old theories about the origins of life.
Instead of entertaining a debate on the merits of competing theories, the scientific establishment has moved to suppress the ID movement in a "systematic and ruthless" way at odds with America's founding principles, the film asserts.

Liberals have been going ape about "Expelled" for months as it has been screened around the country.

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On March 20, two Darwinian defenders, who accepted payment to talk like buffoons on the film, tried to bust into a private screening in Minnesota.

"PZ" Myers, a University of Minnesota biology professor and proprietor of the popular atheist blog Pharyngula, was quickly expelled, much as he condones expelling professors who deviate from the monkey line, as he wrote on The Panda's Thumb blog:

The only appropriate responses [to Intelligent Design proponents] should involve some form of righteous fury, much butt-kicking, and the public firing and humiliation of some teachers, many school board members, and vast numbers of sleazy far-right politicians." ~ Comment #35130, PZ Myers, June 14, 2005
Richard Dawkins, an evolutionary biologist at Oxford who wrote the book "The God Delusion," gained entry only by foregoing his evolved surname for the formal, Clinton.

Myers then disrupted an "Expelled" conference call with reporters the next day.

These uncivilized spectacles caused a liberal mass meltdown. According to an "Expelled" press release, the "Expelled" controversy held the No. 1 slot in the blogosphere all day March 24, as registered by Nielson's BlogPulse, and garnered over 800 Technorati results.

If we are seeing this meltdown on the left even before "Expelled" officially opens, expect a Big Bang on April 18.

"This is not a scientific battle; this is a worldview battle," "Expelled" producer Mark Mathis told me. Mathis has encountered unbridled hostility from the scientific establishment, i.e., avowed Darwinists, at previews.

"Expelled" connects atheism and Darwinism with no missing link, one of the film's two major flashpoints.

Darwinism is a specific evolutionary theory that excludes everything but material processes in the design of all life forms. No Intelligent Design allowed.

"What's driving it is Darwinism is a foundational principle – scientific validation of secularism, atheism, liberalism – and that it strikes at the core of who they are," said Mathis.

"Secondarily, these scientists are the high priests of the biggest question ever asked. They have all the authority, knowledge, power, funding," continued Mathis. "This is ground they own exclusively. They look down their elitist noses at the unwashed ignorant religious masses and scoff. That's why they respond with such extreme hostility. They are very concerned that if this monolith cracks, then the whole thing could crash."

Indeed, "Expelled" is already making a difference. Last month, Ben Stein, star of "Expelled," screened it for Florida legislators as they prepared to present a bill guaranteeing academic freedom in their schools. It looks ready to pass.

Last week, Stein screened "Expelled" to Missouri lawmakers followed by a press conference promoting three academic freedom bills germinating there.

Not only is Darwinism foundational to atheism, it is foundational to eugenics, the other reason for the left's apoplexy against "Expelled," according to Mathis. They cannot tolerate the connection "Expelled" draws between Darwinism and Adolf Hitler.

Or Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood.

"Planned Parenthood is a direct outgrowth of Darwinism," said Mathis. "Sanger was an open proponent of eugenics, and Darwinism is an idea that naturally leads to eugenics, which they are denying," said Mathis. "But they are compatible."

That Hitler and Nazism drew from Darwinism is irrefutable. "Hitler said genocide of Jews was doing good, cleansing the world of 'useless eaters' and strengthening formation of an 'Aryan' race of super-humans," said Mathis.

One complaint Darwinist scientists interviewed for "Expelled" have not lodged is that the filmmakers applied Michael Moore cut-and-paste editing to make them look bad. The film includes many of their long, uninterrupted thoughts.

That's also part of their problem.

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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2008, 10:02:20 AM »

Just saw this movie and was surprised at the direction the movie went.

I figured it would be religion heavy but was amazed when stien started expoesing the eugenics that belief in evolution always leads to as the nwo planners anticipated. Wink

I give this movie three thumbs up  Grin Grin Grin

Very good for the neoconned dumbed down public.
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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2008, 10:53:35 AM »

You want to see Ben Stein made to look like a fool.  Watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I0QN-FYkpw

Ben Stein basically says Peter Schiff is crazy and guess what, Peter Schiff was 100% correct.

Ben Stein is no genius....  =)
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« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2008, 12:00:27 PM »

You want to see Ben Stein made to look like a fool.  Watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I0QN-FYkpw

Ben Stein basically says Peter Schiff is crazy and guess what, Peter Schiff was 100% correct.

Ben Stein is no genius....  =)

Ben Stein never claimed to be a genius =)
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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2009, 10:06:32 PM »

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-518637672896741579&ei=E03hSca_MoysqALj6bzYBA&q=expelled+no+intelligence+allowed&hl=en

Ok, so I believe alex for the most part but Ive always been skeptical of his views on eugenics until now. I decided to watch Ben Stein's Expelled where he debunks Evolution and he spend about 20-25 minutes talking about Eugenics and how Eugenics, Evolution and Nazism all have connections. I'm Blown away right now, this is like hitting me with a ton of bricks.
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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2009, 10:23:32 PM »

And it's not Ben Stein really making much argument as much as these "genuises" making themselves look like flippin' retards.

I got this months ago and was really impressed. I'd already seen every Kent Hovind session, so I was quite up the matter. Very cool and very well produced. Ben can make some film, eh?
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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2009, 10:32:35 PM »

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-518637672896741579&ei=E03hSca_MoysqALj6bzYBA&q=expelled+no+intelligence+allowed&hl=en

Ok, so I believe alex for the most part but Ive always been skeptical of his views on eugenics until now. I decided to watch Ben Stein's Expelled where he debunks Evolution and he spend about 20-25 minutes talking about Eugenics and how Eugenics, Evolution and Nazism all have connections. I'm Blown away right now, this is like hitting me with a ton of bricks.

Its crazy! Look into the historical aspects of eugenics


From Wikipedia-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics#United_States

United States
In the USA, eugenic supporters included Theodore Roosevelt, pre-1960's Democratic Party, the National Academy of Sciences, the American Medical Association and the National Research Council. Research was funded by distinguished philanthropies and carried out at prestigious universities.[citation needed] It was taught in college and high school classrooms. Margaret Sanger founded Planned Parenthood of America to urge the legalization of contraception for the lower classes. In its time eugenics was touted by some as scientific and progressive, the natural application of knowledge about breeding to the arena of human life. Before the realization of death camps in World War II, the idea that eugenics would lead to genocide was not taken seriously by the average American.

Eugenics was supported by Woodrow Wilson, and, in 1907, helped to make Indiana the first of more than thirty states to adopt legislation aimed at compulsory sterilization of certain individuals.[54] Although the law was overturned by the Indiana Supreme Court in 1921,[55] the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of a Virginia law allowing for the compulsory sterilization of patients of state mental institutions in 1927.[56]

Beginning with Connecticut in 1896, many states enacted marriage laws with eugenic criteria, prohibiting anyone who was "epileptic, imbecile or feeble-minded" from marrying. In 1898 Charles B. Davenport, a prominent American biologist, began as director of a biological research station based in Cold Spring Harbor where he experimented with evolution in plants and animals. In 1904 Davenport received funds from the Carnegie Institution to found the Station for Experimental Evolution. The Eugenics Record Office opened in 1910 while Davenport and Harry H. Laughlin began to promote eugenics.[57]

One of the earliest modern advocates of eugenics (before it was labeled as such) was Alexander Graham Bell. In 1881 Bell investigated the rate of deafness on Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts. From this he concluded that deafness was hereditary in nature and, through noting that congenitally deaf parents were more likely to produce deaf children, tentatively suggested that couples where both were deaf should not marry, in his lecture Memoir upon the formation of a deaf variety of the human race presented to the National Academy of Sciences on 13 November 1883.[58] However, it was his hobby of livestock breeding which led to his appointment to biologist David Starr Jordan's Committee on Eugenics, under the auspices of the American Breeders Association. The committee unequivocally extended the principle to man.[59]

During the 20th century, researchers became interested in the idea that mental illness could run in families and conducted a number of studies to document the heritability of such illnesses as schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and depression. Their findings were used by the eugenics movement as proof for its cause. State laws were written in the late 1800s and early 1900s to prohibit marriage and force sterilization of the mentally ill in order to prevent the "passing on" of mental illness to the next generation. These laws were upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in 1927 and were not abolished until the mid-20th century. All in all, 60,000 Americans were sterilized.[60]


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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2009, 10:38:20 PM »

Nice find.  I will watch this.
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« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2009, 10:43:03 PM »

Its crazy! Look into the historical aspects of eugenics


From Wikipedia-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics#United_States

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In the USA, eugenic supporters included Theodore Roosevelt, pre-1960's Democratic Party, the National Academy of Sciences, the American Medical Association and the National Research Council. Research was funded by distinguished philanthropies and carried out at prestigious universities.[citation needed] It was taught in college and high school classrooms. Margaret Sanger founded Planned Parenthood of America to urge the legalization of contraception for the lower classes. In its time eugenics was touted by some as scientific and progressive, the natural application of knowledge about breeding to the arena of human life. Before the realization of death camps in World War II, the idea that eugenics would lead to genocide was not taken seriously by the average American.

Eugenics was supported by Woodrow Wilson, and, in 1907, helped to make Indiana the first of more than thirty states to adopt legislation aimed at compulsory sterilization of certain individuals.[54] Although the law was overturned by the Indiana Supreme Court in 1921,[55] the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of a Virginia law allowing for the compulsory sterilization of patients of state mental institutions in 1927.[56]

Beginning with Connecticut in 1896, many states enacted marriage laws with eugenic criteria, prohibiting anyone who was "epileptic, imbecile or feeble-minded" from marrying. In 1898 Charles B. Davenport, a prominent American biologist, began as director of a biological research station based in Cold Spring Harbor where he experimented with evolution in plants and animals. In 1904 Davenport received funds from the Carnegie Institution to found the Station for Experimental Evolution. The Eugenics Record Office opened in 1910 while Davenport and Harry H. Laughlin began to promote eugenics.[57]

One of the earliest modern advocates of eugenics (before it was labeled as such) was Alexander Graham Bell. In 1881 Bell investigated the rate of deafness on Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts. From this he concluded that deafness was hereditary in nature and, through noting that congenitally deaf parents were more likely to produce deaf children, tentatively suggested that couples where both were deaf should not marry, in his lecture Memoir upon the formation of a deaf variety of the human race presented to the National Academy of Sciences on 13 November 1883.[58] However, it was his hobby of livestock breeding which led to his appointment to biologist David Starr Jordan's Committee on Eugenics, under the auspices of the American Breeders Association. The committee unequivocally extended the principle to man.[59]

During the 20th century, researchers became interested in the idea that mental illness could run in families and conducted a number of studies to document the heritability of such illnesses as schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and depression. Their findings were used by the eugenics movement as proof for its cause. State laws were written in the late 1800s and early 1900s to prohibit marriage and force sterilization of the mentally ill in order to prevent the "passing on" of mental illness to the next generation. These laws were upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in 1927 and were not abolished until the mid-20th century. All in all, 60,000 Americans were sterilized.[60]




good find as well. Ben Stein really blows away evolution and exposes Eugenics. I never realised both were connected. Of course, ive never believed in evolution but when you think about it, Evolution is an inheritly evil ideology.
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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2009, 10:49:51 PM »

While racist eugenics is one thing one would think that progressive eugenics was quite another.

Saving imbeciles and schizophrenics from the daunting tasks of supporting, nurturing and responsibly raising children while not necessarily impairing their sexual activities is hardly a dastardly deed. Even moreso if the transfer of such sadly deprived traits were clearly proven to be hereditary.

However if America ever had a decent moral Universal Public Healthcare System instead of the immoral greedy parasitic gambling casino for profit disease repair business it suffers under the burdens of one could see some financial reason for it.

In fact both disease repair for profit salons and disease repair for profit casinos should welcome the inferior breeds for the enlargement of their lucrative parasitic business models! (no doubt the sole reason such sane laws were quickly shelved under the guise of 'civil rights' in the 50's)
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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2009, 10:50:18 PM »

Yes. I happened to watch Ben Stein's "Expelled!" before watching "End Game". I think it really helped me acceept the truth and not go into denial. Its very well done.
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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2009, 10:50:50 PM »

I hate to break it to creationist and evolutionist believers, neither side will ever prove they are right, neither side can ever prove the other wrong.  When it comes down to it, it's all a bunch of b.s. meant to keep people divided amongst one another...
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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2009, 10:54:56 PM »

While racist eugenics is one thing one would think that progressive eugenics was quite another.

Depriving imbeciles of the tasks of supporting and responsibly raising children while not necessarily impairing their sexual activities is hardly a dastardly deed.


However if America ever had a decent moral Universal Public Healthcare System instead of the immoral greedy parasitic gambling casino for profit disease repair business it suffers under the burdens of one could see some financial reason for it.

In fact both disease repair for profit salons and disease repair for profit casinos should welcome the inferior breeds for the enlargement of their lucrative parasitic business models!


That depends on what your definition of an imbecile is. who make this decision?

Trusted doctors?
Politicians?

this is what went out of control in germany in the 30s and 40s
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« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2009, 11:03:28 PM »

That depends on what your definition of an imbecile is. who make this decision?

Trusted doctors?
Politicians?

this is what went out of control in germany in the 30s and 40s

I certainly feel your pain here, and totally reject racism, but it's become rather 'trendy' to look at such illnesses as schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and depression as if they were part of a "flouride poisoning" or "plastic packaging hormone" epidemic, but what if those studies into the heritability of such awful lifetime debilitating afflictions WERE REALLY TRUE, and just got slipped off into the garbage can, with those rather iffy laws for the sole benefit of Disease Repair Artists and Drug Pushers?

We see the same corporatist hysteria-propaganda agenda being used with the global climate whatever-it's-doing debate.

Population growth is a serious problem that is NOT GOING AWAY, regardless of rationalizations to the contrary, and it means less 'stuff', lesser democracy, lesser unspoiled beauty and lesser freedom for all of us, especially our children.

(Gee - a dentist's son who disdains trace Flouridation - wonder how that happened?)
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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2009, 11:27:05 PM »

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"Finally, heredity and eugenics-which are simply other names for the new biological politics and social sciences-are asking America just two great questions. The first is: Are we replacing the noble strains, the great family lines of our forebear, with weaker, slower and lower streams of immigrant blood? The second is: Are the great native stocks--the living foundiations of empire that created our rich and multidudinous environment and made America the most luxurious abode in the whole earthly life of man--- are they reproducing their own kind? 
The fate of our civilization, this great dream of human destiny, lies in the answers.

   But the hour is not too late for America to give a new and triumphant solution to these questions, which from the human dawn have been but the tocsins of every nation's doom.  There are still sixty million of the old native Americans, and every phase and form of human excellence does exist among the choicer strains of our later immigrations.  The hour is, therefore, not too late to carry out the grand purposes of our foundations, to foster real superiority and give it the one and only privilege superiour blood should have----  the privelege to serve;to serve the weaker and the less endowed; to build a true aristo-democracy, a ruler-ship of the wisest and best..."


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« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2009, 11:31:38 PM »

go ben stein!
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"THE FRUIT OF THE FAMILY TREE" by Albert Edward Wiggam cr 1924 Published by Bobbs Merrill- Indianapolis


OMG Methodman that dudes a racist-eugenic monarchist sicko!

I'm just playing the devils advocate here because I innately detest a one sided argument and greatly revere A G Bell, who invented sign language and whose wife was deaf.

I often think sorrowfully of those with Downs Syndrome whom I have known and the great sacrifice and and hidden sadness it brought upon their ever so loving parents and families to have to face, regardless of their bravely feigned optimism, nurturing that sadly truncated state of existence as if enduring a thousand innocent deaths that doomed child that should never be endured, nor wished upon anyone.
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« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2009, 12:00:06 AM »

OMG Methodman that dudes a racist-eugenic monarchist sicko!



Yes. He is. I have some of his books. Eugenics is VERY real, and VERY sick. I have seen it for myself, and have the proof in my hands.

Should I begin to transcribe chapter 7, pg 280  titled: "Woman's Place in Race Improvement" ?
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« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2009, 12:06:30 AM »

great vid.
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« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2009, 12:20:23 AM »

Great Vid .. Glad you brought it to our attention.
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« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2009, 12:22:35 AM »

great vid.

yea, I thought it was great myself. Im glad I watched it
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« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2009, 12:26:58 AM »

indeed. Great post -- thanks for  the link.

I've been wanting to see this movie since it came out last year.

I was not disapointed .... I thought ben did a really good job of trying to address the issue...

Anyhow, thanks again for the post.

But , back to the point I got from all of this under my perspective --The power Elite require every one religiously ascribe to darwinistic principals , because if they don't then the general populace will see through their lies.
They will come to realize that  the ONLY reason they push this SHITE DARWIN wrote IS to supplant the core morality of  people. So, people can get on board that the idea of Planetcide is a good thing Sad
 
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« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2009, 12:27:57 AM »

OMG Methodman that dudes a racist-eugenic monarchist sicko!

I'm just playing the devils advocate here because I innately detest a one sided argument and greatly revere A G Bell, who invented sign language and whose wife was deaf.

I often think sorrowfully of those with Downs Syndrome whom I have known and the great sacrifice and and hidden sadness it brought upon their ever so loving parents and families to have to face, regardless of their bravely feigned optimism, nurturing that sadly truncated state of existence as if enduring a thousand innocent deaths that doomed child that should never be endured, nor wished upon anyone.

Down syndrome and autistic children are the happiest and most innocent people you will ever meet and they will be that way until the day they die. The only sadly truncated state of exsistence is in those who believe that they are somehow better than the least of their brothers. You make me sick. f**k you.
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« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2009, 12:33:53 AM »

indeed. Great post -- thanks for  the link.

I've been wanting to see this movie since it came out last year.

I was not disapointed .... I thought ben did a really good job of trying to address the issue...

Anyhow, thanks again for the post.

But , back to the point I got from all of this under my perspective --The power Elite require every one religiously ascribe to darwinistic principals , because if they don't then the general populace will see through their lies.
They will come to realize that  the ONLY reason they push this SHITE DARWIN wrote IS to supplant the core morality of  people. So, people can get on board that the idea of Planetcide is a good thing Sad
 

combine that with the fact most elites are either atheists or satanists and they both push Darwinistic ideas and you have a very dangerous combination. The belief in darwinistic principles is how these sick eugenicists justify murdering millions and to think these sickos are still in power today. Evolution is a sham intended to enslave the masses into direct control of the elite.
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« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2009, 12:43:38 AM »

Wow!

I too am really impressed.

Great job Ben Stein!

This is something that ALL seekers after Truth should watch, no matter their religion or creed.

All that talk of Freedom and Truth and America kinda brought a tear to my eye.

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Must see!

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« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2009, 12:48:46 AM »

bump for later viewing. 

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« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2009, 12:53:51 AM »

combine that with the fact most elites are either atheists or satanists and they both push Darwinistic ideas and you have a very dangerous combination. The belief in darwinistic principles is how these sick eugenicists justify murdering millions and to think these sickos are still in power today. Evolution is a sham intended to enslave the masses into direct control of the elite.

I would argue the belief in religious principles is a sham as well, how do these "sick" religious people justify murdering millions and to think these sickos are still in power today?  Religion is a sham to enslave the masses into direct control of the elite.  Hate to use your own words directly, but see how easily they can be twisted?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/10090757/Christian-Bloodshed
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« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2009, 12:58:13 AM »

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« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2009, 02:19:09 AM »

How did molecules and proteins arrange themselves in an ordered sequence to form the first cell? The odds of them doing this by chance or coincidence are somewhere in the odds of one in a trillion. I don't think anyone in the scientific community has ever adequately given an answer to this most fundamental of questions. I got a good laugh out of the explanation offered by that one micro biologist: molecules that formed the necessary proteins needed to create the first cell "piggybacked" on crystals. This is about as good an explanation as I have heard so far, but not very convincing or "scientific".
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« Reply #29 on: April 12, 2009, 05:19:57 AM »

This should be in the vid section.
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« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2009, 05:26:09 AM »

Ben Stein is now on CIA-Suicide/mysterious heart attack watch!

He has gargantuan balls.

Incredible!

He has stood his ground among the "End Game" authorities with truth, logic, evidence, and humanity.

Please watch this film ASAP and distribute it far and wide.
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« Reply #31 on: April 12, 2009, 05:27:02 AM »

I would argue the belief in religious principles is a sham as well, how do these "sick" religious people justify murdering millions and to think these sickos are still in power today?  Religion is a sham to enslave the masses into direct control of the elite.  Hate to use your own words directly, but see how easily they can be twisted?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/10090757/Christian-Bloodshed
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« Reply #32 on: April 12, 2009, 06:42:42 AM »

Holy crap, the Bullshit yellow journalism rag, scientific american published no less than 13 multipage articles attempting to debunk this historic and epic expose of the Endgame psycopaths throughout the scientific establishment.

http://www.sciam.com/search/index.cfm?q=ben+stein&submit.x=0&submit.y=0

For reference, look at the wonderfully accurate article written by the potato heads at scientific american who are never to be trusted with anything scientific (mush less anything humanistic):

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=fahrenheit-2777
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« Reply #33 on: April 12, 2009, 06:56:04 AM »

More biblethumping that's destroying this movement like a cancer. When will you people ever learn? Blaming the mass murder by eugenicists on the theory of evolution, and seeing it as proof against it is like blaming the nukes dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki on the theory of relativity. If the Holocaust provides any evidence against the theory of Evolution, I assume this means that the Christian mass murder in South America (where children got baptized before being murdered by the invaders), the mass murder against the Kathars and the witch hunts debunk Christianity as well.

Keep your stupid religion out of this, it's done enough harm to this movement already. Excuse me if I sound angry, but that's what happens when you start blaming the Holocaust on the theory that's responsible for most of the knowledge of biology we have gained during the past 100 years, while at the same time discrediting this movement by making us all look like a bunch of blind fanatics.
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« Reply #34 on: April 12, 2009, 07:35:13 AM »

More biblethumping that's destroying this movement like a cancer. When will you people ever learn? Blaming the mass murder by eugenicists on the theory of evolution, and seeing it as proof against it is like blaming the nukes dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki on the theory of relativity. If the Holocaust provides any evidence against the theory of Evolution, I assume this means that the Christian mass murder in South America (where children got baptized before being murdered by the invaders), the mass murder against the Kathars and the witch hunts debunk Christianity as well.

Keep your stupid religion out of this, it's done enough harm to this movement already. Excuse me if I sound angry, but that's what happens when you start blaming the Holocaust on the theory that's responsible for most of the knowledge of biology we have gained during the past 100 years, while at the same time discrediting this movement by making us all look like a bunch of blind fanatics.


you gotta be fricking joking right?

Ben Stein is a christian fundamentalist?

Ben Stein is not aware of the inquisition and abuse/slavery/torture/executions by the missionary movements?

This is the same thing.  Ben Stein is warning the American people that this endgame involving depopulation/enslavement is coming here by the same people who did it in Germany/Russia.

Please explain which bible thumpers caused this: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1549381614128077376
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« Reply #35 on: April 12, 2009, 07:42:56 AM »

Please try to get a grip on reality, christianity was hijacked just like science is now obviously hijacked.  True Christians (like true jews, muslims, etc.) can now see through the NWO hijacking.  The science community is a wholly owned subsidiary of the NWO.  Anyone who goes against it is an outcast.  This film is about liberty, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, and freedom of the press. Did you watch it? Please explain where in the film is their anything about bible thumping? The only bible thumpers in the movie are the Darwinian bible thumpers.
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« Reply #36 on: April 12, 2009, 07:47:04 AM »

you gotta be fricking joking right?

Ben Stein is a christian fundamentalist?

Ben Stein is not aware of the inquisition and abuse/slavery/torture/executions by the missionary movements?

This is the same thing.  Ben Stein is warning the American people that this endgame involving depopulation/enslavement is coming here by the same people who did it in Germany/Russia.

Please explain which bible thumpers caused this: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1549381614128077376
How about the reportedly devoted Northern Baptist John D Rockefeller that helped these people rise to power? How about the Protestant German government that send Lenin into the Soviet Union? I mean, that may sound far fetched to you (and it is) but it's the same as blaming the Holocaust on a scientific theory.
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« Reply #37 on: April 12, 2009, 07:58:12 AM »

How about the reportedly devoted Northern Baptist John D Rockefeller that helped these people rise to power? How about the Protestant German government that send Lenin into the Soviet Union? I mean, that may sound far fetched to you (and it is) but it's the same as blaming the Holocaust on a scientific theory.

John D. Rockefeller was as devoted a Baptist as Mayer de Rothschild was a devoted Jew. 

Mein Kampf expressly categorized how society must be controlled by eugenic/race experts.  It is the only way to create the "New Man" for the "New World Order".

Darwinism is a cult.  It is a religion.  It mostly mirrors theosophy.  The problem with the Darwinian cultists is that they feel the obsessive need to destroy all freedom of religion. There is an underlying reason for this exposed by this undebunkable documentary by Ben Stein (I would have never fathomed that he would have done this).  The underlying reason is that elites have been unsuccesful in using Christianity/Judaism/Islam to bring about a New World Order because of all the ridiculous morals/ethics/humanity taught in these religions.  With Darwinian doctrine, society does not need to care about ethics, morals, humanity.  It allows humans to play gods for the good of technological advancement, efficiency, and the "health of the planet".

This has been exposed in the Report from Iron Mountain and the leaked Project Blue Beam documents.  This is not new, but the fact that Ben Stein has exposed it using another form of communication is amazing IMO.

Also, even though this film has been out for a year, this is the first I have ever heard of it.  I doubt the establishment is using this film for some evangelical fundamentalist bible thumping agenda.
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« Reply #38 on: April 12, 2009, 08:02:02 AM »

 What part of evolution does he supposedly debunk?

You know, there are countless examples of contemporary evolution that we can witness. Nearly all crop plants that farmer's selected over generations for traits, and breeds of dog such as the basset hound and poodle, and antibiotic resistant bacteria, all represent new forms which result from evolution. It's pretty straightforward. Are you guys just denying that speciation occurs? It is very difficult to 'debunk' evolution that occurs at the generation level where we can all observe it. Speciation is often a very long process because it requires physical isolation in different spots. Hybridization can occur after distinct forms have resulted due to selection, when species in are in proximity with each other such as dogs/wolves, lions/tigers.
   Do you guys deny genetics, or DNA as the mechanism of inheritance?
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« Reply #39 on: April 12, 2009, 08:08:02 AM »

really enjoyed this thanks for posting.
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