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« on: April 13, 2008, 03:14:12 PM »

1984: Grace Commission Report under Ronald Reagan showed IRS is a fraud that collects taxes for the Banking Dynasties
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"100% of what is collected is absorbed solely by interest on the Federal Debt ... all
individual income tax revenues are gone before one nickel is spent on the services
taxpayers expect from government."
-Grace Commission report submitted to President Ronald Reagan - January 15, 1984

Ronald Reagan was promptly shot after he dared to criticize the Fed, on the same day
that the Pope was shot. After recovering, he changed his mind and praised the Fed. About
seven US Presidents have been assassinated for not cooperating with the Transatlantic
Banking Dynasties (William Henry Harrison, poisoned, in 1841, Zachary Taylor, Lincoln,
Garfield, McKinley and John F. Kennedy 1963; 7 if FDR's poisoning is counted).

Most of us feel sick when we realize that Not one dime of IRS money goes to the US
Gov't, according to Reagan's Grace Commission: it all goes to pay interest on a bogus
debt to the Private Federal Reserve (FED), just to allow paper money to circulate as
"Federal Reserve Notes". The Federal Reserve is a private Corporation eventually owned
by the Rockefellers and Rothschilds Dynasties through intermediary agents, designed to
suck the capital dry from the U.S., as the Rothschilds do in Europe. Read Billions for
the http://www.deepinfo.com/email/Billions4Bankers.htm  Bankers, Debts for the People
More Links at DeepInfo.com on Jekyll Island http://www.deepinfo.com/more/jekyll.htm .

The final report of the 1984 Grace Commission, convened under President Ronald Reagan,
quietly admitted that none of the funds they collect from federal income taxes goes to
pay for any federal government services. The Grace Commission found that those funds
were being used to pay for interest on the federal debt, and income transfer payments to
beneficiaries of entitlement programs like federal pension plans.

These comments were presented at the Close of the Citizens' Truth-In-Taxation
Hearing.Washington D.C., February 27-28, 2002: IRS is a Trust
http://www.supremelaw.org/sls/31answers.htm  Headquartered in Puerto Rico Not a
Federal Agency The IRS is technically not an "agency" of the federal government, as that
term is defined in the Freedom of http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/5/552.html
Information Act and in the Administrative http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/5/551.html
Procedures Act. The governments of the federal territories are expressly excluded from
the definition of "agency" in those Acts of Congress. See 5 U.S.C. 551
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/5/551.html (1)(C).  All evidence indicates that they
are a money laundry, extortion racket, and conspiracy to engage in a pattern of
racketeering activity, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1951
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/1951.html  and 1961
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/1961.html  et seq. They appear to be laundering
huge sums of money into foreign banks, mostly in Europe, and quite possibly into the
Vatican. See the national policy on money laundering at 31
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/31/5341.html  U.S.C. 5341 . Do federal income tax
revenues pay for any government services and, if so, which government services are
funded by federal income taxes? Answer: No. The money trail is very difficult to follow,
in this instance, because the IRS is technically a trust with a domicile in Puerto
http://www.supremelaw.org/authors/cooper/cooper.htm  Rico. See 31
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/31/1321.html  U.S.C. 1321(a)(62). As such, their
records are protected by laws which guarantee the privacy of trust records within that
territorial jurisdiction, provided that the trust is not also violating the Sherman
Antitrust http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/15/1.html  Act.

"Like it or not, you are a slave. You admit you are a slave every April 15th!  That's
when you sign forms that "voluntarily" lay bare to the government the most private
details of your life! And few people realize the income tax is a slave tax. It can never
be compatible with the life of a free people". ALAN KEYES - Republican Nominee for
President, unfortunately, the only Republican willing to speak out along with Ron Paul.

Visit here...  Interest On The Debt! http://www.geocities.com/cmcofer/interest.html
...and gulp!

Sit down when you view it. People have fainted when they see the size of the Debt Hole
we're now in!

The "President's Private Sector Survey on Cost Control", commonly referred to as the
1984 Reagan "Grace Commission Report" reveals that 100% of the "income tax" collected is
applied against the interest of the national debt. The government operates on a deficit
that is created from nothing by the Privately Owned Fed (owned by the same folks who own
the major commercial banks) at interest, i.e. what could be created debt free and usury
free by the Treasury has been usurped by the Banking Dynasties who have been ruling the
World since ancient times. Taxes are a way of controlling, or manipulating the economy.
They also give people a faith in the funny money -- makes it Near and dear to them.
Balanced budgets and budget surpluses are a smoke and mirror trick. They sound really
good, playwell for the people, but are nothing more than panderings. I'm not going into
it, period, but if any should care to make the study, you will be at first incredulous,
then angered by the depths of deception under which the people of this country labor.

Even the inventor of the electric light, Thomas Edison, joined the fray in criticizing
the system of the Federal Reserve: "If our nation can issue a dollar bond, it can issue
a dollar bill. The element that makes the bond good, makes the bill good, also... It is
absurd to say that our country can issue $30 million in bonds and not $30 million in
currency. Both are promises to pay, but one promise fattens the usurers and the other
helps the people."

In President Lincoln's words (he was assassinated by the Banksters' agent) ""The
Government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and credits needed to
satisfy the spending power of the Government and the buying power of consumers. By the
adoption of these principles, the taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest."

"In a recent conversation with an official at the Internal Revenue Service, I was amazed
when he told me that 'If the taxpayers of this country ever discover that the IRS
operates on 90% bluff the entire system will collapse'". -Henry Bellmon, Senator (1969)

"Our federal tax system is, in short, utterly impossible, utterly unjust and completely
counterproductive [it] reeks with injustice and is fundamentally un-American... it has
earned a rebellion and it's time we rebelled". -President Ronald Reagan, May 1983,
Williamsburg, VA

"Our Income Tax system is a disgrace to the human race."  -Jimmy Carter, said in 1976 by
the then President-to-be

"Eight decades of amendments... to [the] code have produced a virtually impenetrable
maze... The rules are unintelligible to most citizens... The rules are equally
mysterious to many government employees who are charged with administering and enforcing
the law". -Shirley Peterson, Former IRS Commissioner, April 14, 1993 at Southern
Methodist University

"The wages of the average American worker, after inflation and taxes, have decreased 17%
since 1973, the only Western industrial nation to so suffer". -Martin Gross, author of
"The Tax Racket: Government Extortion From A to Z"
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1. What is money?
http://www.evolutionaryjustice.com/images/NSP_Booklet.pdf
... the creation of the Fractional (Federal) Reserve Banking system, the ... Grace
Commission report submitted to. President Ronald Reagan on January 15, 1984 " ...

2. Ronald Reagan - State of the Union 1985
http://reagan2020.us/speeches/state_of_the_union_1985.asp

3. Ronald Reagan's Fourth Stateof the Union Speech - Wikisource

We're moving ahead with Grace commission reforms to eliminate and iA We'remprove ...
continue to cooperate with the Federal Reserve Board, seeking a steady policy ...

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan's_Fourth_State_of_the_Union_Speech - 38k - Cached

9. Federal Reserve is a private corporation. The Department of the Treasury, which is on
the Internal Revenue ... Ronald Reagan, in a report to the Grace Commission in ...

www.freedomfiles.org/tax/biglies.htm - 7k -

They Told The Truth! ...About The Internal Revenue Service
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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2008, 04:52:52 PM »

And people are 'clinging' to this so called 'economy' !

Why? Beats me completely. Have you learnt nothing?

Sooner everything goes to shit, the better.

I've been waiting most of my life for everyone to wakeup. Just didn't quite know it. Got blagged into thinking I was a drug crazed, nature loving no hoper with an attitude problem. And maybe I was but now I've got prospects  Grin
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2008, 05:17:02 PM »

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And people are 'clinging' to this so called 'economy' !

Like a 'copter pilot with half a propeller.

I agree with you 100%.  The sooner the revolution, the faster we curttail their damage.
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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2008, 08:03:00 PM »

1984: Grace Commission Report under Ronald Reagan showed IRS is a fraud that collects taxes for the Banking Dynasties
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Grace Commission ( Aka President's Private Sector, Survey on Cost Control)
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2011, 11:08:58 AM »

IRS-The Biggest Lie and Scam in World History
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IRS-probably the three most frightening letters in the English language.    This deep-seated fear and loathing serves a very specific purpose.  It serves to keep the People of America in submission to an illusion, a lie.

The IRS has a horrible reputation and has earned every bit of it, has by their own admissions committed crimes against innocent Citizens, and continues today to be the “Gestapo” of America.  They confiscate more homes, destroy more families, take more money, ruin more lives, and commit more crimes than all the street gangs combined.  They are indeed vivid proof that the greatest threat we face, as a nation, is our own Federal "Government." [The County Sheriff: America’s Last Hope.  Author Richard Mack].

Here it is in a nutshell.  The IRS is a private, debt collection agency for the private banking system known as the Federal Reserve Bank.  The IRS is not a government agency.  I repeat, the IRS is not a government agency.  Never has been, never will be.

The IRS is formerly the Bureau of Internal Revenue (BIR) situated in and with authority only in the Philippine Islands (Trust Fund # 61), and moved into Puerto Rico (Trust Fund # 62).  In the 1950’s, with the stroke of the pen, the BIR was transformed into the current notorious IRS and brought onto the 50 united States.  This was done without any Congressional authority whatsoever.  There is no Congressional authority for the IRS to exist and operate in the 50 states recorded anywhere in any law-books.  Again, keep in mind, that the IRS is the “Private, debt collection agency for the private banking system known as the Federal Reserve Banks”.

Consider this fact.  When an IRS agent wants to seize property from a Citizen in a County, they must first contact the Sheriff of the County and request assistance in the seizure.  This is simply because the IRS agent has no authority to seize any property at all.  So the IRS agent bamboozles the Sheriff into committing the crime for the IRS.  When the Sheriff seizes property from a Citizen under the non-authority of the IRS agent, the Sheriff has committed a Second Degree Felony, Conversion of Property.

A second degree felony is incredibly serious.  However, both the IRS agent and the Sheriff count on the abysmal ignorance of the Citizen who has no idea what their Lawful Rights are.  Bear this point in mind, if the IRS agent has no authority to seize any property at all, then they cannot delegate or confer to the Sheriff what they themselves do not have.  In addition, the Sheriff has no idea that he has engaged in a serious crime.  Here is where the maxim applies, "Ignorance of the law, is no excuse for violating the law."   Both the IRS agent and the Sheriff should be arrested and charged with Conversion of property, a second degree felony.

Tyranny is defined as:  Dominance through threat of punishment and violence, oppressive rule, abusive government, cruelty and injustice.  What better definition than  this fits the abusive IRS.

America is using a private credit system wherein the medium of exchange are the Federal Reserve Notes that we call “Dollars”.  Hence, the so-called “Income Tax” is in reality nothing more than a disguised “User Fee” that Americans must pay to the Federal Reserve Bank for using their private credit system. [research Title 12, USC].

The legal definition of "dollar" is "a gold or silver coin of a specific weight and with specific markings".  Thus, a Federal Reserve Note, is not and cannot, ever be a dollar.  A Note is not "money", see Blacks Law Dictionary.  The Federal Reserve Notes in use are mere evidence of a debt.

The Federal Reserve Banking system is not a Federal government agency, there are not “reserves” and there is no real money.  The Federal Reserve Banking system is a private cartel that has usurped the authority of the Congress to coin Money.   Federal Reserve Notes are just as worthless or just as valuable as Monopoly Money used in the game “Monopoly”.  If we go to this Constitution for the united States of America, Article I, section 8, we find that only Congress was given the authority “To coin money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures”.

This authority given to Congress by this Constitution for the united States of America was not to be delegated to any private corporation for that corporation’s private gain.

The authority to coin money was usurped by the unlawful enactment of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913.  The Federal Reserve Act is a "private law" passed by four Congressmen after the Congressional session closed in December of 1913.  Congress can pass both private laws and public laws.  Congress does not have to tell the American Citizens which law is private and which law is public.  We are simply led to believe that all laws are public.  This is propoganda and brainwashing at its best.

This was a silent coup d’ e-tat wherein the American People became the slaves of the Federal Reserve Bank.  The “Killing Blow”, the coup de grace[pronounced gra] was delivered upon the American People by Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1933 by removing the Gold Standard from the American economy.

Since then, no American Citizen has actually paid for anything, we have just exchanged worthless Federal Reserved Notes for more worthless Federal Reserve Notes.  All we do is lease the property from the “STATE OF NEW MEXICO”, we lease our cars, we lease our houses, WE OWN NOTHING.  Since 1933 no American has owned their property in Allodium.  That is why the "STATE OF NEW MEXICO" can take our property for just about any reason, i.e Eminent domain, failure to pay so-called "property taxes", etc.

For anyone that has ever dealt with a debt collection agency, you know how nasty, mean and dirty they can be.  Now, take that nastiness, that mean-ness and dirtiness and multiply it one hundred fold, there you have the attitude of the IRS.

Let’s continue down the Rabbit Hole.  When an American Citizen gets into a dispute with the IRS, the IRS agent will not listen to any of your pleadings, your beggings or your excuses.  Everything you do or say amounts to nothing with the IRS.  If you dig in your heels and refuse to pay, the IRS starts sending you threatening letters with dire consequences for your non-cooperation.

If you still refuse to pay, the IRS will file a document called a “Notice of Federal Tax Lien” in the local County Clerk’s office.  This is a very deceptive document.  Keep one thing in mind a “Notice” is not the “Lien” itself.  The “Lien” is a totally separate and distinct document from the “Notice”.  The County Clerk, through abysmal ignorance files the “Notice of Federal Tax Lien” as if it was an actual “Lien”.  These are two separate and distinct documents.  The County Clerk never requests the actual “Lien” from the IRS agent.  If they were to request this document, the IRS agent would get very irate and threaten the County Clerk for their non-cooperation.  Of course, the actual “Lien” does not exist anywhere in the known Universe.

There is one more lawful requirement that the County Clerk must comply with before they can file the “Notice of Federal Tax Lien” or the actual “Lien” itself.  The Federal Lien Registration Act requires “Certification” of the “Lien” itself. This would require that the IRS agent file an Affidavit wherein they identify themselves, and state under Oath that there is an actual “Lien” filed based on an actual assessment on form 23C against the particular American Citizen.  When the County Clerk fails to verify “Certification” they violate the lawful requirements of the Federal Lien Registration Act.

The IRS never files the actual “Lien” because it does not exist.  An actual “Lien” must be based on a lawful assessment on form 23C.   In the entire history of the IRS, the IRS has never produced a form 23C showing an individual assessment against an American Citizen.

This so-called “Notice of Federal Tax Lien” is an act of “Financial Terrorism” because once this “Notice” is filed, you become a pariah, a financial outcast, you are branded as unfit, you are no longer a “good slave”, you are a rebel beyond the hope of redemption.  Your slave “Credit Rating” takes a nosedive.  You are practically ruined financially.

Interestingly, Section 803 of the so-called PATRIOT ACT defines terrorism as “any act intended to coerce or threaten a civilian population”.  So by the very definition of “Terrorism”, the IRS is the largest, meanest, dirtiest, Terrorist Organization in the entire world.

If you still are not intimidated, the IRS will file a “Notice of Levy” with the County Clerk, and send copies to your bank(s) and employer.  The County Clerk, through abysmal ignorance, files the “Notice of Levy” as if it were an actual “Levy”.  These are two separate and distinct documents.

Again, keep in mind, a “Notice” is not a “Levy”.  On this “Notice” alone, the bank then hands over all of your money to the IRS and you cannot even pay your bills.  Your employer garnishes your paycheck, and again, you are the slave of the Federal Reserve Bank.  Your Bank treats the “Notice of Levy” as if it were an actual “Levy”.  Your employer also treats the “Notice of Levy” as if it were an actual “Levy”.  The bank and your employer never request an actual copy of the “Levy” itself.  Of course, the actual “Levy” does not exist anywhere in the known Universe.

There are several things wrong with these two scenarios.  Both the bank and your employer fail to verify several key pieces of information in dealing with the IRS agent.

First, they fail to ask for a copy of the IRS agent’s drivers license to verify that in fact they are who they say they are.  Also, in case, the IRS agent has to be served with legal process, they can be located.  All IRS agents have been given instructions to never provide this information to any one asking for it.  Thus, the true identity of the IRS agent is never established.  Pretty convenient, huh!

Second, the bank and your employer fail to request a copy of the “Pocket Commission” from the IRS agent.  Every IRS agent receives what is called a “Pocket Commission”.  This “Pocket Commission” identifies the IRS agent’s authority as to his/her actions.  The most common “Pocket Commission” is what is called “Administrative”.  This is identified with a capital “A” on their identity card.  This means that this IRS agent can shuffle paperwork all day, but he/she does not have any “Enforcement” authority whatsoever.

The other “Pocket Commission” is what is called “Enforcement”.  The word “Enforcement” might convey the message that this IRS agent actually has unlimited authority to “Enforce” something against American Citizens.  That is not the case at all.  They have an extremely limited scope of authority.  In fact, they cannot enforce anything against American Citizens.

Both the bank and your employer fail to request a copy of the “Pocket Commission” from the IRS agent in order to establish the authority of the IRS agent.  I am fairly confident that all agents that send out notices to banks and employers have an “Administrative Pocket Commission”.  Thus, both your bank and your employer steal your money and send it to a Terrorist Agency known as the IRS.

Thirdly, the bank and your employer fail to request a copy of the actual assessment on form 23C.  Again, never in the history of this country has an American Citizen been assessed an Income Tax on a form 23C.  Without this so-called assessment on this specific form, form 23C, there is no debt.  So the bank and your employer fail to verify this alleged debt and thus, steal your money.

Fourth, the bank and your employer fail to request of copy of the “Abstract of the Court Judgment”.  This document would show that you were actually sued by the IRS and that you had your day in court.  The Seventh Amendment of the Bill of Rights of this Constitution for the united States of America guarantees you the Right of Trial by Jury in any controversy where the amount shall exceed twenty dollars.  Of course, you were never sued and you never had your day in court.  Thus, your Due Process of Law Rights are totally violated and again, you are further enslaved to the Federal Reserve Bank.

So then, we come to the end of the Rabbit Hole.  You have never owed any money to the IRS.  The IRS is simply the enforcer, the debt collector for the Federal Reserve Banking System.  However, because you are using a private credit system, wherein the medium of exchange are fancy pieces of paper called Federal Reserve Notes, you owe the Federal Reserve Bank a “user fee”.

By way of information, the IRS does not have a bank account wherein your tax payments are deposited.  All of your tax payments are deposited into the bank account of the Federal Reserve Bank in one region or another.

The Federal Reserve Banks and the IRS constitute the single largest sting operation, the single largest fraud and the single largest swindle in the history of the World.

In order to keep this "Alice in Wonderland" illusion going, the so-called "government" developed an entire industry to support and perpetuate this fraud.  The tax preparation industry.  Tax preparers, accountants, so-called Certified Public Accountants, self proclaimed financial gurus advising about tax loopholes, etc., etc.

All the current paycheck garnishments in the entire country could be stopped by having your employer request the above mentioned documents, to wit:

   1. A copy of the Driver’s License of the IRS agent
   2. A copy of the “Pocket Commission” showing the authority of the IRS agent
   3. A copy of the assessment shown on form 23C against the American Citizen
   4. A copy of the “Abstract of the Court Judgment” that verifies that you had a trial by jury.

As Sheriff of San Miguel County, I will provide educational classes to the County Clerk and the employers who are currently garnishing wages and paychecks to identify areas where they may have broken the law and unwittingly stolen their employees Federal Reserve Notes and thus committed “Conversion of Property”, a second degree felony.

Furthermore, I will work closely with the County Clerk through education and knowledge so that the Clerk can stop breaking the law and committing financial terrorism against the Citizens of San Miguel County.

When the Citizens of San Miguel County elect me as their new Sheriff in town, I will ban the IRS from San Miguel County, and if I catch an IRS agent within the boundaries of the county, without my permission, I will arrest them for TRESPASSING.

- Rico S. Giron, Future Sheriff of San Miguel County
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2011, 11:17:08 AM »

IRS-The Biggest Lie and Scam in World History

it's just amazing how people cling to this lie/scam !!!!

"Oh we can't end the IRS, are you crazy ? That's one of our most important government institutions, without them no one would pay taxes and america would go broke !"

"End the Fed ? what ? don't be silly, that's where all our money comes from ! you shut them down and it's economic collapse for all !"

W T F..................where did this line of thinking come from ? oh that's right MSM and a government run "education" system !!!!

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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2011, 11:50:39 AM »

Great info, Route!!
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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2011, 12:06:03 PM »

Here it is in a nutshell.  The IRS is a private, debt collection agency for the private banking system known as the Federal Reserve Bank.  The IRS is not a government agency.  I repeat, the IRS is not a government agency.  Never has been, never will be/
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This is incredible information...
not just the quote above, but all of it.

i remember one year when I was audited
because I had "an unusual ammount of medical deductions",
according to the IRS agent.

I will never forget the relief I felt when she waved her hand and said
"I'll allow it ".

I left amazed at the amount of power this one person had.
I wondered what might have happened if:

1. she did not have a cold that day !
2. she was not overscheduled that day !
3. she had not attended the same demonstration against Viet Nam as my ex-husband did !
4. she did not feel like adding up all my slips of paper that were my receipts !

Again, the amount of power that one person,
one employee has,
in this organization is mind-boggling .
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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2011, 12:28:45 PM »

Well, if it weren't for the unwritten policy that illegals can vote over & over without presenting ID, nor being registered to vote, Rico Giron would probably have been elected.  He is exactly what every county in America needs.

Or, if it goes the way with corruption in elections on a grander scale like the re-election of Harry Reid in Nevada, he's just lucky to be alive.

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« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2011, 12:32:37 PM »

More on "The Grace Commission":
http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=6662


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« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2011, 01:47:30 PM »


Although I applaud the sentiment and effort of the info in this thread, I don't agree that the IRS is a fraud.  Sure, they do indeed seem to engage in tactics against individuals that are not honorable, and yes they are 100% responsible for the fear campaign that keeps the lie going.

HOWEVER, the IRS is an administrative entity.  It is tasked with the assessment and collection of taxes imposed by Congress through their Constitutional authority to do so.  Now, before everyone gets all uppity and screams at me, please consider that language and context are important... even when simply explaining the law.

Article I Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution authorizes Congress to lay and collect taxes (this means DIRECT taxes), duties, imposts and excises.  The income tax is an excise tax and the 16th Amendment neither granted Congress any additional taxing power nor did it change the nature of Congress's existing authority (see Brushaber v. Union Pacific Railroad).  SCOTUS has also ruled consistently that the words "excise" and "privilege" are synonymous.  This means that the income tax is a tax upon a privileged activity... the feds aren't taxing the money, but the activity that generated it.

Given that context, one has to ask "What activity am I engaging in that is considered a privilege?".  Surely no one could or would suggest that merely working, exchanging one's labor for an agreed remuneration, is a "privilege" somehow facilitated by the federal government?

We have to remember, the federal government was consistently referred to by the Founders as the external government or the foreign agent.  They were explicit in their desire to keep domestic issues and jurisdiction within the States' purview, and that of interfacing with foreign nations and governments in the capable hands of the federal government.  In a very real and literal sense, Congress has no jurisdiction within the 50 states of the union.  That also means that any administrative office or body of the Executive is without such jurisdiction as well.

Being that this is the case, there must be some mechanism by which the IRS ensnares individuals otherwise NOT engaged in what could possibly be considered "privileged" activity.  Here is where we find the unwitting culprit of our so-claimed liability... private payers... those erroneously requiring American citizens to disclose a "taxpayer I.D." (SS#), and then filing information returns (filled with LIES) such as W2's and 1099's to the IRS.  Keep in mind that 99% of the time, these companies are not even authorized to use these forms AT ALL.

Ultimately, the "fight" is not with the IRS.  I wholeheartedly agree that this entity needs to GTFO of our lives, but getting into it directly with them means you're too late!  Without erroneous information returns which the IRS can use as presumptive and prima facie evidence against you, they have 1. no evidence, 2. no reason to bother you, and 3. no defense should they try to.

From the court's point of view, if the IRS has evidence that you are one of those held liable for the tax, it doesn't matter what you say... since you basically requested that your private payer disregard fact and act as if something else is true.

YES, it's f**ked up!!  YES, the entire setup needs exposed and fixed!!  But constantly attacking them with emotional reactionary pleadings of fairness has not worked and will never work.  Claiming the IRS is unconstitutional isn't exactly true, so that argument will never fly.

What the People need to do is quit being so f**king lazy and get back to understanding some basic legal principles:

1. The federal government has NO JURISDICTION in domestic matters, save for some very narrow circumstances.

2. Your LABOR is your PROPERTY, and to trade it for money is a RIGHT.  There is no privilege involved in this activity.

3. Your private sector payer is the bad guy here.  They are LYING about you to the IRS because they are ignorant and afraid.

4. If you don't know how to read a codified statute in consideration of the rules of statutory construction, STOP ARGUING FOR OR AGAINST IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE, ADMITTEDLY, NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

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« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2012, 09:48:19 PM »

This needs to be stickied!
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