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chris flowers
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« Reply #40 on: July 13, 2008, 11:43:16 AM »

If Flight 93 was shot down,then why is the plane,along with the others 2 that hit the world trade towers sitting in a Cleveland airport(Loose Change 2nd Edition)? Also,if you look on google earth images(i believe it's from 1996) you will see the impact crater exactly where United 93 supposedly crashed!
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« Reply #41 on: July 13, 2008, 01:04:46 PM »

Every time I mention Flight 93 I always accidentally say "you know, the one that was shot down in Virginia?" and then go "oh, wait, I think the official story was that the passengers attacked the hijackers" but people always go "yeah, I know the one" when I mention the first bit - I think many Australians in Canberra (the capital) would easily accept that Flight 93 was shot down; many of the people I talk to are also happy to accept that the US Gov't was complicit in allowing the attacks, and they are aware that they were pre-warned.

...you lose them with the New World Order, and why this is relevant.

Most people believe that Obama will end all the bad things from the Bush years.
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« Reply #42 on: July 13, 2008, 01:22:27 PM »

...you lose them with the New World Order, and why this is relevant.

Most people believe that Obama will end all the bad things from the Bush years.

Dont tell me... Every time I start talking about it with people (and I respectfully wait until they introduce the subject) it's like I ruin their life or something. They start freeking out and tell me I'm "stressing" them... It's like they have to reevaluate their reality and that awakening requires a certain amount of conscious energy they do not have.

I've read all of PNAC and a few unclassified documents which I usually bring up (of course some amazing infowars information also). I think it took me a year of listening to A.J. and reading those documents to really get over the fact of the evil system in place.

All I can say is VERY FEW people will actually research by themselves, most people will only join the most mainstream belief system because they are lazy and scared of the truth, so they just "play" stupid to avoid facing reality.
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« Reply #43 on: July 14, 2008, 12:07:19 AM »

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Alright, that's a great way to explain it but I still go with the "loose change" guys who show a picture of the "so called" flight 93 plane that is still in service. Picture before 9 11 then after 9 11, the plane has an ID number on the tail and it's seen in both before and after 9 11 pictures, so unless they are a bunch of mad men super imposing these pics I think we know that the people on that flight took off, landed, then the rest is like Amalia lost over the south seas.  It's up to the people, for this govn. is by the people for the people and until the masses speak up and demand an explanation we're in quick sand as a nation. I did read an interesting article on www.newswithviews.com that said the guy who prosecuted Charles Manson has put together an air tight case against Bush, Bald man Chain gang and Rice but it's up to one of the states attorney generals to file murder charges against them, but only after they leave office. And they can...if they will. So, start contacting the attorney generals offices of every state saying that the war is illegal, unconstitutional and any soldier that died from whatever state in the nation is blood on the hands of this bush adm. and if only one young man or woman died in whatever state, that states attn. general can file murder charges against bush and company. Think I'm off my rocker? Check it out, again...newswithviews.com
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« Reply #44 on: July 14, 2008, 02:02:00 AM »

Some people speculate that the plane travelled back in time as a part of some secret black opps programme ala Philadelphia experiment.

That's why they never found a plane by the Pentagon, they weren't thinking 4th dimensionally.

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There really was a flux-capacitor !!!!!!!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
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« Reply #45 on: July 14, 2008, 02:33:57 PM »

That's why they never found a plane by the Pentagon, they weren't thinking 4th dimensionally.

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There really was a flux-capacitor !!!!!!!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

TIMECUBE PROOVES THERE ARE FOUR PLANES IN SIMULTANEOUS ONE DAY SPACETIME
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« Reply #46 on: July 15, 2008, 08:30:01 PM »

The truth is that on flight 93 the passengers fought back. That's why it was shot down. That's why building #7 fell without a plane strike. The plane was shot down in Pennsylvania because the passengers were about to regain control of the airplane. After it was shot down building #7 hung in midair waiting for hours till it had to fall because there was too much incriminating evidence to let it stand. What a dilemma, bring down a 47 story building with no apparent cause, or let the building stand with preplaced demolition charges and showing the collapses of building #1 and #2 to be suspect. 

That right there makes more sense than anthing they were going to hit bldg#7 and just say it missed the tower and hit it but when the passengers tried to take it they shot it down and now opps well "pull it" anyway
YUP things are making sense again.
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« Reply #47 on: July 23, 2008, 10:47:04 PM »

Check this out!Is Montreal Next?
http://www.truthfultv.com/html/montreal__canada_-_the_next_te.html
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« Reply #48 on: September 06, 2008, 01:05:35 PM »

If that is the case, wouldn't that destroy the remote controlled plane theory. Meaning even if the passengers got control, they still wouldn't be able to fly the plane. I believe the guy that shot it down disobeyed a direct order to stand by after hearing about the other 2 attacks on the trade centre. I don't think the passengers had anything to do with it at all.

Have any of you seen this video? Watch it to the end. Is it true or disinfo (the comparison of land between 1994 and 2001)
 
THE FLIGHT 93 FRAUD- Smoking Gun Evidence
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-59kouBgO_s
about 2mins through

First, you would be surprised to learn that many more people can fly than have licences.
Secondly, they might simply have gained control by shutting down the "auto-pilot".



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« Reply #49 on: September 10, 2008, 11:11:52 PM »

How does "coming back minus one missile" prove 93 was "shot down" and where the heck was the plane?
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« Reply #50 on: September 17, 2008, 03:50:45 PM »

How does "coming back minus one missile" prove 93 was "shot down" and where the heck was the plane?
right, i never have figured that out exactly either. If NOT shot down though - Where did 93 go if not shot and where are the passengers if *not* shot down?
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« Reply #51 on: November 02, 2008, 08:32:57 PM »

I got this mailed to me by another truther earlier this evening. People are currently looking at checking into the theory, but it's the best one yet as to why Flight 93 was/is such a big deal in 9/11 Truth. Go to this page: http://mail.psychedelic-library.org/pipermail/theharderstuff/20070109/001808.html and go beyond the transcript of the Alex Jones Interview. I've posted the comments below. Please forgive me if it's been posted elsewhere before....

Not saying this theory is 100% correct, but it's a very intriguing theory to say the least.

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9/11 a Failure?
Posted by annonymous
Dec 15, 2006

David Shayler ...But that's not the most amazing
insight that Shayler has. Even more than this is
how 911 was a failed operation. Failed? But it
was perfect! The buildings came down!

Yes... but we didn't see the entire game. It's
been staring us in the face all this time but it
took a brilliant mind with inside information
(access to the most classified of intelligence
documents) to piece it together. Shayler really
is that intelligent. Spend 5 minutes with him and you will see what I mean.

Well, the end game was this: Flight 93 was to
land on the Whitehouse. You see, under US law at
the time, if that happened, it would be martial
law in the US and under those conditions, the
entire 911 plot could have been completely tidied
up, all the evidence buried. We would not be able
to have the 911 truth movement today. Anyone
claiming that it was an inside job would be so
far out on the extremes of conspiracy theory that
they would never be taken seriously and certainly
must less of the material available today would
have been available to the truth movement.

Now we KNOW that this was planned (martial law)
because on the 10th Nov 2001 it had been put in
the MSM! There were articles published to the
American people about how martial law could be
enacted in the event of the US government
(Washington DC) being attacked directly. So the
US population was actually PRIMED for that.

Not only that, but the antrax attacks DID attack
the US government, only it was too late then to
declare martial law so Plan B didn't bail them
out either. And worse, the antrax was traced by
the FBI to US laboratories where on a few select
personnel had access to it so it was undeniably
and inside job. Which is why the headlines
claiming that the anthrax was Iraqi played enough
to imprint the mantra in the population's minds,
then the entire anthrax hoax was made to quietly and quickly disappear.

So what went wrong?

The shooting down of 93 was a renegade action by
a true American hero officer and the pilot that
did the deed. The order to shoot down WAS NOT
GIVEN. I.e. The inaction was there to guarantee
the Whitehouse would be hit. Instead of the lies
in the movie "United 93", the real hero of 911
was indeed associated with flight 93 coming down
but it was not some fictious all American man in
the street blued eyed boys. The real hero remains
unknown. Anonymous. Denied. The real hero was the
officer that saw the no-shoot as a NORAD botch
and did his job and had that aircraft shot down.

The entire planet owes that man its thanks. I
wonder if he even lived through the day? They may well have shot him on sight.

Now, I haven't researched this but I am willing
to bet good money that if you go back in the news
archives, you will find that NONE of the
important people were in the Whitehouse on 911.
You may even find Bush opponents WERE in the Whitehouse that day!

Not only that, but as Shayler points out, Jeb
Bush jumped the gun. He declared martial law too
soon in Florida. There was no reason for that
declaration and it's one of those key facts that
the 911 truth movement has missed. It's key fact
for prosecuting as conspiracy to the murders, Jeb
Bush as well as the usual suspects in the
Administration. It's the smoking gun against Jeb Bush being an insider.

But the "failure" in NORAD and the other points
of control, i.e. the things that were meant to
allow 93 to hit the Whitehouse were undone by a
quick thinking officer who ordered the plane to
be taken down. 93 was, to use Shayler's term, a
key failure in the plot. A cockup that, to quote
Shayler "they simply didn't expect or plan for this".

When you realise this truth, suddenly many of the
loose ends click into place. Suddenly, so much
makes sense. So many of the Bush "incompetancies"
are shown to be not incompetance, but
quickstepping out a contingency. The inept neoCon
scrambling and bumbling of the invasion is
suddenly very clearly a group of well rehearsed,
well disciplined, well planned people wrongfooted
by the most unexpected of cockups.

Flight 93 is where 911 went wrong for them. And
one of the reasons that the propaganda around
that plane was in overdrive. United 93 the film,
the stories of the heros, the only "black box
that survived"... all these were disctractions.
Very clever distractions. You see, by keeping the
"was is shot down" debate going as an initial
catch point for the sheep backed up by the "how
come the mobile phones worked?" as the catch
point for those not fooled by the first catch
point, no-one got thinking about the actual
flight itself and the key role it played. No-one
has been thinking about the possibility that it
was a monumental cockup that the plotters simply
hadn't accounted for. No-one has been thinking
"what if it had reached its target, what would
have happened?". And that's clever human
manipulation for you. That's really clever brains
thinking at high speed to bail out of a catastrophe.

But 93 went badly wrong for the plotters. Because
it gave that little window of opportunity for the
truth movement to see the faults in the story,
see the holes in the evidence and start to
question the official line. Martial law was meant
to ensure that no questions could be asked, no
evidence could survive and no-one would have the
time to ask because of what was meant to
immediately follow. The sequence of events would
have been so swift that we would be focussed now
on the fallout of the WMD use that was almost
certainly in the plan. 911 would be a minor
footnote that no-one would be interested in by now.

Had 93 reached "mission complete". Had martial
law been declared, complete control over the
media, release of information and the cleanup
(getting rid of the evidence) would have happened
and bingo! The entire 911 plot would have played
out and the world right now would have been a
completely different place. Iran, Syria, Iraq,
North Korea, Afghanistan probably would have had
nuclear weapons used against them to simply
"solve the problem". With the US government
"wiped out", no-one would have either held the
Bush crowd accoutable nor have the ability to even if they tried.

Which explains another anomally about the plot:
How the neoCons so totally screwed up the
invasions without an exit strategy. The visible
evidence being the mess that Iraq is in with the US having its butt kicked.

See, they never needed an exit strategy because
they were never going to invade the way that they
were forced to. That was NOT the plan. The plan
was to use the overwhelming force of American
super weapons in quick, lethal blows that the
world would have had to stand by and accept
because the US government itself would have been
directly attacked, possibly with key opponents to
the WH wiped out as part of the deal. Who would
stop the US? Indeed, who would even BLAME the US?

Their original plan was perfect. It was a good plan. I was a perfect plan.

There was no need to plant a passport. There was
no need to explain 911. If you don't explain then
there are no holes in the story because there
simply is no story. Your cover is perfect. No 911
commission, no NIST scrambling to prove the
impossible, no questions about WTC7. Nothing to
attack the neoCon agenda with because no
accountability given because under martial law,
the US government would be unassailable.

And that also explains those massive FEMA
detention camps that GLP was so hyped up about
many years ago. We were all mystified as to why
they were being built. Now it's clear! Even under
martial law there would have been those who
didn't agree with the neoCons. Those detention
camps would have been filled with these dissidents.

Sit back and think of all the odd behaviour that
has puzzled us about the BushCo. How they seem to
have wrongfooted themselves all the time. And
think about how things would have been different
in 93 had hit its target. It all makes perfect sense.

Behind the scenes there must have been frantic
redrawing of plans. Years and years of careful,
step by step detail was trashed when that missile
hit 93. And because of that, errors were made.
And because of THAT, we have the truth movement
and the very real chance to expose this hoax and nail the guilty party.

Which could be why Bush bought into Paraguay.

Also, look at where Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice,
Wolfowitz, Bremer and all the other PNAC players
were on the day. Look at their actions. In the
light of what was EXPECTED to happen, it all
makes sense. Perfect, perfect sense.

This is a startling revelation by Shayler and an
absolute lynchpin in understanding 911 and what
has followed. It explains so much, ties up so
many loose ends and just fits the picture so
well, even down to the reactions of the people
involved, that it really is the only credible missing piece.

And more still, it's clear that the recycling
deal must have been planned months before for the
steel shipments from the 911 demolition. All that
rund perfectly. But rather than it being a secret
kept "for security reasons" away from any public
knowledge for decades to come, maybe even
centuries, it's now in the open. And one more
item to point at the guilty parties with.

For me personally, it's the effectiveness of the
psyops of 93 that gets me. How the diversion has
worked so extremely well, How the realisation of
how 911 was actually a massive cockup simply
hasn't featured anywhere up until now.

That makes me shake my head in admiration for the
brains that pulled it together. Real
professionals. Nasty, evil, but so very clever.

Originally posted at:
http://godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?messageid=317985&mpage=1&showdate=12/15/06

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