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End of the World 2012? What happened to Y2K? Type 2012 into ‘search’ and you can see what I mean. But what happened to Y2K, the Year 2000 when it was “going to all come down?” It didn’t happen, no software corruption causing nukes to launch, massive networks failure, power grids to shut-off, no massive rioting and social dissent, nothing. Put it was plugged, and it set many a people excited about it; some actually selling house, leaving job, making a fallout shelter, getting in the woods, buying massive amounts of survival gear and related information--it was a boom for certain individual$ plugging it. People, if your relying on some predestined “date” and not doing the work to cure the disease, you’re the cancer. Just waiting around for some date is doing nothing, in fact it’s very suspicious for those who plug it. Cointelpro = making those “in the know” do nothing. And yes before Y2K was the early 90s, the Gulf War “prediction” that the world wasn’t going to last beyond 2000. Dates like 91, 2000, 2012 are loads of BS. You make the date for the great events, not the NWO.
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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2008, 06:02:38 PM » |
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The Dept of Time Travel corrects these things after the fact. Only reason you haven't heard about them is that they haven't been created yet, think about it.
It does explain why all the doomsday predictions turn out to appear completely wrong though, doesn't it?
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2008, 06:11:27 PM » |
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End of the World 2012? What happened to Y2K? Type 2012 into ‘search’ and you can see what I mean. But what happened to Y2K, the Year 2000 when it was “going to all come down?” Ah the media working at it's best,if you haven't already heard about it,google Paul McCartney is dead and this before we had the interweb,a lie spreads faster than the truth 
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2008, 06:55:18 PM » |
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IDK Man we never know until we know. It may be a little hyped but hey what can you say to a smart civilization at the time of their golden age, they knew lots of shit. At least the 2012 date isn't manufactured by the elite or whomever it was set in stone along with many other dates that do not rely on our physical calendar.
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Ah the media working at it's best,if you haven't already heard about it,google Paul McCartney is dead and this before we had the interweb,a lie spreads faster than the truth  Dude, Paul is dead. The walrus was Paul.
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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2008, 08:25:57 PM » |
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Type 2012 into ‘search’ and you can see what I mean. That's prisonplanet.com Search, not google or any other search engine.
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« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2008, 09:04:27 PM » |
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There are too many sources that say something is going to happen in 2012 for me to be persuaded otherwise. I never bought into the Y2K thing myself because i knew it was just a number. With 2012, there are several ancient civilisations and science to back it up.
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There are too many sources that say something is going to happen in 2012 for me to be persuaded otherwise. I never bought into the Y2K thing myself because i knew it was just a number. With 2012, there are several ancient civilisations and science to back it up.
The shadow government may just play fast and hard with 2012.It leaves the door wide open because so many people think something terrible will happen. Might just give them the excuse they need to kill off millions of people to get near that 80% reduction they want.Let see here,start off with a worldwide depression.Maybe some terrible virus or disease.Maybe a worldwide flu epidemic.Maybe some big scale wars.A nuke here and nuke there.Of course starvation seems likely.Let`s not forget their HAARP up in Alaska.Many claim they can alter the weather to the point of creating hurricanes and such. Then to top it off they use Bluebeam to create those 800 foot laser Jesuses and Mohammands and they totally fall in step with shadow goverments wishes. Of course mass microwave mind control will play a big factor in all of this.
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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2008, 01:51:07 AM » |
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People love to have something tangible, a date or in this case at least a year that they can latch on to. If they KNOW a year, they can feel comfortable in the preparation for the "inevitable". That's exactly what happened on 01/01/2000. Those of us who KNEW there would be no massive failures of things actually found it comical how hysterical people became.  No doubt some things were averted due to the ability of good programmers going through millions of lines of ancient code and setting things right. But notice how it was done. This is key. Just like everything else, we wait for the problem to be AT OUR DOORSTEP before we even recognize it, much less come up with a gameplan to fix it. And how many people do you think learned that lesson at midnight on 01/01/2000? THAT'S the question you should be asking yourselves. It's one thing to be fearful for a reason based on facts and the REAL potential for trouble, and quite another to just give in to chicken little, the sky is falling mentality to feel safer because you "join the crowd". A lot of people do that too. Not Alex though. And that's why I listen intently to what he has to say. When you base things on provable facts, people gravitate towards that, even if it takes them years to read a document you cite on-air. Truth IS attractive, and our greatest tool in the infowar. In the end, it was nice if people at least woke up to the fact that they cannot do enough to prepare for a time when things WILL break down eventually. Nobody knows the date, or even the year, but if people prepare, isn't that the best we can hope for? Note to self - stop ranting so much. People dislike it.
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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2008, 02:52:17 AM » |
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Dude, Paul is dead.
The walrus was Paul. Don't believe a word of it! The walrus was John! 
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« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2008, 04:48:41 AM » |
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Y2k was a fizzle not because it wasn't a real problem, but because there was enough time to do something about it. Billions of dollars were spent to mitigate the affects of the year 2000 turning into the year 1900, as far as computers were concerned. To people who believe there was no there, there, why would private industry spend so much money on a non problem? Answer; there was a problem. It just got fixed. I personally believe solving Y2k was directly responsible for 9/11. Globalists needed a catastrophe, Y2k was it, made to order. When it was averted another contingency was needed. 9/11 fit the bill. Unfortunately for them Y2k could have been explained away as a programing error from decades ago, and 9/11 left considerable evidence of a false flag operation. Their need for an event to frighten people into the next level of control, served to wake up millions to the realities that aim to enslave them.
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« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2008, 06:43:15 AM » |
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Y2k was a fizzle not because it wasn't a real problem, but because there was enough time to do something about it. That's good, no 2012 either, have time to do something about it. 
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« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2008, 06:52:11 AM » |
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2012 = write books make money.
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« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2008, 07:14:37 AM » |
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isnt alex making a documentary about 2012?
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« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2008, 11:13:32 AM » |
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We'll be lucky to make it to 2012. The neocons are beyond evil.
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« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2008, 11:16:33 AM » |
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You should hear Alex Jones Y2K broadcast. How he had any credibility after that fiasco, I have no idea.
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Its still wise to be prepared for any disaster.
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« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2008, 12:03:17 PM » |
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I've been hearing about the end of the world since I entered it in 1946. I can remember when backyard bomb shelters made realtors a lot of money. 
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« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2008, 03:06:40 PM » |
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Dude, Paul is dead.
The walrus was Paul.
I buried Stig. I burro stigana! (For any Rutles fans that might be in)
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« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2008, 03:19:33 PM » |
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You should hear Alex Jones Y2K broadcast. How he had any credibility after that fiasco, I have no idea.
Why do I always have this deep sigh every time I hear your criticisms, repills? It's like... "oh no, not again."
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« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2008, 11:20:08 AM » |
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You should hear Alex Jones Y2K broadcast. How he had any credibility after that fiasco, I have no idea. I haven't a clue, didn't know AJ existed then; what was said? End of the World of Stuff, When the S____t hits the fan stuff, etc?  False prophecy?
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At least the 2012 date isn't manufactured by the elite or whomever it was set in stone along with many other dates that do not rely on our physical calendar.
Whoever controls the media, doesn't mind letting this information out. Regardless of it's origins, the elite have seized on this date and are involved in pumping it into the subconscoius of every little sheep who owns a television. Just pointing out that the elite want us to worry about this date. Don't assume they aren't using the Mayan calendar for their own evil purposes.
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2012 is just another snake god operation.
after 2012, it will be 2025.
etc, etc.
fear, fear, fear
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We'll be lucky to make it to 2012. The neocons are beyond evil. We'll make it. We're beyond their beyond. 
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« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2008, 05:04:17 PM » |
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2012 is just another snake god operation.
after 2012, it will be 2025.
etc, etc.
fear, fear, fear
keep you impotent from bringing the true criminals to justice.
Keeping redemption in the future. Redemption is always one step away. When will we learn?
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« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2008, 06:35:32 PM » |
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Keeping redemption in the future. Redemption is always one step away. When will we learn?
One breath away, hiding in plain sight.
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"The warrior is already dead" Don Juan from Tales of Yaqui Knowledge
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« Reply #28 on: April 20, 2008, 07:57:17 PM » |
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Don't often say this but Sane is just wrong...
'2012 is just another snake god operation'
There is overwhelming physical evidence that something is going on and I'm not going to go into the masses of information here as everyone can easily find out for themselves. This will become increasingly evident so it doesn't matter whether you believe it or not. The trick will be getting there as the NWO are desperate to stop this becoming widespread knowledge. 2012 is not a fixed in stone date...maybe, but is certainly indicative of a timeframe.
Are people making a few quid off this? Of course. But everyone's still has to make a living somehow and the information is available totally freely. The comparison to Y2K is ridiculous. Anyone that really knew about computers knew at the time it was a total con by the usual suspects. You can't blame Alex, he knows something is coming/happening, I believe, and that would look like a likely candidate from a certain viewpoint. Get over it. He wasn't wrong, just picked the wrong event as hindsight makes clear.
Here's just a few of the relevant subjects to really get into on this subject.
Planetary Changes, Galactic Alignments, Iridium and Rhodium deposits, Ice Cores, Cydonia, Pyramids, Egyptians, Theological texts, Ancient Scriptures, Prophecies, Crop Circles, Calendars, Vortex, Climate Change, Schuman Resonance, Magnetic Fields, Astronomy, Astrology, Transfiguration and thats just a start.
The NWO and Freemasonry, Nazis and the illuminati are all a part of STOPPING this. They are a major problem and they need to be stopped but non of this is mutually exclusive. Its all linked and we will all do our bit regardless of belief. NOBODY sensible is saying forgo one for the other.
And is there disinfo out there? Of course. We all know that's true. But it isn't the 2012 part. This is how we ultimately win and once and for all, this time.
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Don't often say this but Sane is just wrong...
'2012 is just another snake god operation'
There is overwhelming physical evidence that something is going on and I'm not going to go into the masses of information here as everyone can easily find out for themselves. <snip> If you have good sources to backup your statement, I'd appreciate seeing them.
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« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2008, 08:12:55 PM » |
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Dude, Paul is dead.
The walrus was Paul.Don't believe a word of it! The walrus was John!  "No he's not" said little nicola
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« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2008, 08:20:02 PM » |
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You should hear Alex Jones Y2K broadcast. How he had any credibility after that fiasco, I have no idea.
Yeah, that was pretty bad. Bill Cooper called him out on that, and rightfully so. This 2012 nonsense is just that: nonsense.
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"If you have good sources to backup your statement, I'd appreciate seeing them." Its taken me 6 months of almost solid investigation to arrive at this conclusion. I'm afraid there are no shortcuts and it will take you equally as long. This is an incredible claim and demands exhaustive confirmations from multiple sources. I have been very interested in tying various disparate subjects together, others may be only comfortable with a less broad brush. Each to his own. Its all the same battle. I'll add a few more subjects to investigate... Architecture, Alchemy, Pineal Gland, Masonic Rights, Geometry, Human Energy Field... and there's still more. I cannot just point you to a few links that will 'backup my claim'. Its like saying prove Intelligent Design. It takes work. And to be honest I'd rather you did find out for yourself. You may uncover further relevant information that others are unaware of. The subjects I have given in the above posts will lead you in the right direction. This idea of 'waiting around to be saved' is also misdirection. Maybe Fundamental Christian's are waiting for a Rapture event but I'm not. I'm spreading NWO information to the best of my ability the same as many others. But I'm also not going to be blinded to the 'bigger picture' which our enemies are fully aware of. Magic is Science, but if unaware of the Science it can be labelled Magic. I'm not trying to convert anyone to anything. I'm just stating what I have found out from an initially sceptical position. Really BIG things do have to happen at some time, and we are in that time. Its going to be blast 
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^^ Good enuff. I wish I had an extra 6 months. Yikes! But I'll check out what I can.
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1. Make dates-prophecy of some impending event, like Y2K, a Rapture and the coming 2012--this will cause people to wait and do nothing, as they rely on the date to fix the problem and not themselves to fix it and cause burnout.
2. Plug the "time isn't right" to take action because not enough sheep are awakened, and that the WWW or whatever media platform will deliver them from evil and the movement with the right amount of money and people will snowball into millions. Post, Post, read, listen will be the mantra--stay in house.
3. Always hint at a possible political solution (Ron Paul) that will save the day and we won't need to do hard work, the Republic will come as a feather bed.
4. Have your movement hinge on one personality, no real hierachy beyond that. Listen to him/her like it was the word of God.
5. Be paranoid and negative and not progressive and hopeful. I hope people in the "know" aren't falling for this 2012 NWO disinformation--wait for 2012 and do nothing and let the NWO control more and more and longer.
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« Reply #35 on: April 21, 2008, 10:21:45 PM » |
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That old chestnut is really getting tiresome skeptic101. Heard someone else say it have you? Think the NWO can line up Planets do you? Of course the NWO may CO-OPT such an event. They are bound to and I believe they are trying to. The trick is seeing through their part in it, to the actual relevant information.
Its like Project Bluebeam... Is that an effort to imprint for their holographic staged second coming event or whatever? Or is it an attempt to suppress a real alien agenda that is against their interests?
Read between the lines. Blanket assertions don't cut it.
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They are bound to and I believe they are trying to. The trick is seeing through their part in it, to the actual relevant information. What does this got to do with false predictions? All the rest was false, but this will truly, truly, for real this time.. happen, BS, heard it before.
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"If you have good sources to backup your statement, I'd appreciate seeing them." Its taken me 6 months of almost solid investigation to arrive at this conclusion. I'm afraid there are no shortcuts and it will take you equally as long. This is an incredible claim and demands exhaustive confirmations from multiple sources. I have been very interested in tying various disparate subjects together, others may be only comfortable with a less broad brush. Each to his own. Its all the same battle. I'll add a few more subjects to investigate... Architecture, Alchemy, Pineal Gland, Masonic Rights, Geometry, Human Energy Field... and there's still more. I cannot just point you to a few links that will 'backup my claim'. Its like saying prove Intelligent Design. It takes work. And to be honest I'd rather you did find out for yourself. You may uncover further relevant information that others are unaware of. The subjects I have given in the above posts will lead you in the right direction. This idea of 'waiting around to be saved' is also misdirection. Maybe Fundamental Christian's are waiting for a Rapture event but I'm not. I'm spreading NWO information to the best of my ability the same as many others. But I'm also not going to be blinded to the 'bigger picture' which our enemies are fully aware of. Magic is Science, but if unaware of the Science it can be labelled Magic. I'm not trying to convert anyone to anything. I'm just stating what I have found out from an initially sceptical position. Really BIG things do have to happen at some time, and we are in that time. Its going to be blast  I agree with the above post. I too have spent months researching the 2012 enigma and after extensive investigation I too believe it's real. The NWO has nothing to do with 2012 and they themselves are scared of it because it means a consciousness expansion for all mankind and their system of control will come tumbling down. As David Wilcock once said, The Bachelor’s degree is Armageddon and the Ph.D. is Ascension. You have to do a lot more research to get to the Ph.D., and be able to prove it scientifically, than to get your Bachelor’s degree. I recommend those interested to check out David Wilcock's site http://www.divinecosmos.com/ and the book 2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl by David Pinchbeck.
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I'm curious, when 2012 comes and goes--are you ready to not trample on Parker, Munroe; Harrington, Muzzey, Hadley and Brown?
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I should probably add that despite my beliefs about 2012 and the expansion of human consciousness, I don't think that's an excuse to sit tight and quit fighting the NWO. We need to fight and act NOW.
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