The gloves are off in the 4th hour!

[Dig]

Finally after so many years the gloves are off.

It is definitely a new level of truth about to hit all of the world!

[darsie]

Alex challenged the guy to come up to him at GZ this September. Apparently the guy has been there the last couple of years.

Is this the same guy that has called in several times before in the past who Alex always puts at the front if he knows it's him? His laugh sounded kind of familiar.

[DCUBED]

Is this the same guy that has called in several times before in the past who Alex always puts at the front if he knows it's him? His laugh sounded kind of familiar.

No, you're thinking of Troy from West Virginia.

[Xill]

"I think Alex held back long enough with you..
"
Sure he did. As soon as he knew who I was he started going nutz. Explain how I threatened him and besides that wasn't it him that was threatening me? Can we say double speak? Can we say you are being fooled? I think so. I am not going to spend anymore time on this forum after this post. I have a public phone listed on my website for anyone to call. If you really believe in Alex than fine but no one hear can debate the fact that the information I provide (on a much lessor volume level) isn't more crucial than what you hear from Alex.

On a side note for those who listen to the audio file, did you notice who the great Alex Jones 'pretended' not to know who Benjamin Freedman was? This guy was amazing and a personal friend of JFK which I believe instigated JFK to do what he did. Just a thought for you to swallow.

visit www.prothink.org for more info.

I actually believe Alex shouldn't have reacted like this no matter what happened between you two. But I guess we will have some sort of explanation eventually. Alex is far from perfect but he does have some valuable information.

[cinsana88]

hey the live stream isn't working for me (the fourth hour).

i have downloaded windows media player 11 and it says:

unable to play

and directs me to this

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/player/webhelp/default.aspx?&mpver=11.0.5721.5145&id=C00D11B1&contextid=83&originalid=80040241

[Dig]

I actually believe Alex shouldn't have reacted like this no matter what happened between you two. But I guess we will have some sort of explanation eventually. Alex is far from perfect but he does have some valuable information.

i respectfully disagree

[Xill]

i respectfully disagree

For the random listener that have tuned to this show today Alex was over-reacting. I'm not saying that his motive are wrong (who knows about the real motives here?), but when you have a radio show there is a certain limit; if prothink would have behaved like an asshole on today's show then yeah, but if it's something from the past that no listeners know anything about and there is no real argument between them, then I'm far from sure this was the right course of action for the show. Just moving to the next phone call would have been enough I think.

And even if I would trust Alex more than anyone else, someone here actually know the real reason why he reacted like this?

[Dig]

For the random listener that have tuned to this show today Alex was over-reacting. I'm not saying that his motive are wrong (who knows about the real motives here?), but when you have a radio show there is a certain limit; if prothink would have behaved like an asshole on today's show then yeah, but if it's something from the past that no listeners know anything about and there is no real argument between them, then I'm far from sure this was the right course of action for the show. Just moving to the next phone call would have been enough I think.

And even if I would trust Alex more than anyone else, someone here actually know the real reason why he reacted like this?

it is just his style and he has never been one for being politically correct.

also he does not do that during the first 3 hours.

as long time listeners go, it is nice to see him let things fly for just a little bit.

i mean people have to get mad.

they are truly trying to kill us and being pc is a very low priority.

some people may get turned off, but when they finally wake up they realize why he is pissed at how much ignorance to these killers plans there are in the world.

[orangeblue]

Alex Jones - “I’m Taking the Gloves Off” 4/7/08 caller remix

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxdnD57Yy08

AJ is having fun ranting and drops the F-bomb a couple of times on the caller.

Enjoy!

[redpills1]

For the random listener that have tuned to this show today Alex was over-reacting. I'm not saying that his motive are wrong (who knows about the real motives here?), but when you have a radio show there is a certain limit; if prothink would have behaved like an asshole on today's show then yeah, but if it's something from the past that no listeners know anything about and there is no real argument between them, then I'm far from sure this was the right course of action for the show. Just moving to the next phone call would have been enough I think.

And even if I would trust Alex more than anyone else, someone here actually know the real reason why he reacted like this?

Yes, because Prothink thinks Alex Jones is a shill for Israel and Zionists.  Prothink has put out video and audio explaining this.

[Dig]

Alex Jones - “I’m Taking the Gloves Off” 4/7/08 caller remix

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxdnD57Yy08

AJ is having fun ranting and drops the F-bomb a couple of times on the caller.

Enjoy!

oh man, I am proud to be an American

1776 is now a reality!  f**k these provocateur dividers of freedom and truth.  trying to cause division in the truth movement!

the sound of freedom live and in color

[Xill]

Yes, because Prothink thinks Alex Jones is a shill for Israel and Zionists.  Prothink has put out video and audio explaining this.

Ok thanks... I'll check one of those out eventually.
What does it matter anyway? We know who the criminals are, where they come from is a secondary issue (even if the state of Israel is an important card for their middle east domination - the NWO elites have houses in most countries - they are already living in a post-national world).
And that Alex works for them, ridiculous. That he avoid speaking about Zionist, perhaps; there is certain topic or people he cant talk about publicly else it would probably be over for him. I'm sure he's making the right decision.

[froginapot]

I'm just so tired of mindless twits.

[SuzakaDusk]

oh man, I am proud to be an American

1776 is now a reality!  f**k these provocateur dividers of freedom and truth.  trying to cause division in the truth movement!

the sound of freedom live and in color

Classic eh Sane, was music to my ears when I heard it live too:) Made me proud he did..

I know I am a Brit living here and all but it made me feel proud to be "American" too

If you do not mind or have offence for that..

I sense the Revolution has begun:)

[iks83]

Well it was fun to listen to that collision between Alex and the prothink guy, they certainly don't like each other. Alex might have overreacted a bit, it could have been handled in a smarter way but the prothink guy laughing like that just puts fuel into the fire. Noone is perfect. But just hating prothink because Alex hates them isn't a very smart move too. Sure they say its all the zionists fault and everyone who says otherwise is an agent but they also made some good videos confronting government officials. Well I think there are more I only watched the one where they confronted Sensenbrenner. (which btw translates to scytheburner)

Some here should stay more objective and stop bashing everyone who is pissing off Alex. Its like an Alex worship cult. I doubt he would endorse such behavior, he always says he don't want to be a leader and people following him like fanatics. If you believe the prothink guy is scum its fine with me but to dismiss all the information he is gathering is stupid. Its just like with the mainstream media. Mostly disinfo and propaganda but sometimes gives valuable information. So instead of fighting with each other in good old divide and conquer fashion we should pick out the things we agree on and work on that together.

[dr4gon]

I knew i'd seen a vid of alex swearing etc, just found it. This vid is wicked!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MNdfiBIuCc

He totally owns some heckler in the crowd "youre a punk bitch!" "you f**kin pussy, you cant handle the truth!"

LMAO Alex has balls of steel

[John Galt]

Ok thanks... I'll check one of those out eventually.
What does it matter anyway? We know who the criminals are, where they come from is a secondary issue (even if the state of Israel is an important card for their middle east domination - the NWO elites have houses in most countries - they are already living in a post-national world).
And that Alex works for them, ridiculous. That he avoid speaking about Zionist, perhaps; there is certain topic or people he cant talk about publicly else it would probably be over for him. I'm sure he's making the right decision.

For the first time since I've become a supporter and fan of Alex, I decided to look into some of what some of these Zionist conspiracists are saying.  And I didn't just check out Wisconsin Mike Delaney's prothink site.  I also dug into many other sites, including www.rense.com, and Googled further to find very compelling content provided by people including Christopher Bollyn (www.bollyn.com). There is definitely something to what is being said by these folks, in my initial opinion.  But, it does seem they go to great lengths to tie ALL conspiracies to Zionists, while at the same time Alex does appear to go to great lengths to avoid associating these same to Zionists.  

No way do I believe Alex is "in bed" with Zionists, like these other folks seem to think (just check out this interview that the prothink dude had with another Zionist conspiracy guy, Eric Hufschmid => http://prothink.podomatic.com/player/2008-02-22T19_39_01-08_00?src=http%3A%2F%2Fprothink.podOmatic.com%2Fenclosure%2F2008-02-22T19_39_01-08_00.mp3&flv=0).  Rather, I believe he feels he'd be doing more harm than good to the truth movement if he entertained the Zionist angle.  And perhaps his ability to get the truth out to the maximum number of people would be greatly comprised if he suddenly were labeled "antisemite."  Alex is the 800 lb gorilla in the room when it comes to truth news and information, and he has certainly earned the title.

Although I very much enjoyed the "real show" today, and hearing Alex go off, I also would enjoy hearing Alex engage/discuss these Zionist conspiracy theories and theorists without simply bullying and swearing at them. I'd like to hear and see more on this in the future, especially if Alex can do better in debunking what they're saying.

[darsie]

For the first time since I've become a supporter and fan of Alex, I decided to look into some of what some of these Zionist conspiracists are saying.  And I didn't just check out Wisconsin Mike Delaney's prothink site.  I also dug into many other sites, including www.rense.com, and Googled further to find very compelling content provided by people including Christopher Bollyn (www.bollyn.com). There is definitely something to what is being said by these folks, in my initial opinion.  But, it does seem they go to great lengths to tie ALL conspiracies to Zionists, while at the same time Alex does appear to go to great lengths to avoid associating these same to Zionists.  

No way do I believe Alex is "in bed" with Zionists, like these other folks seem to think (just check out this interview that the prothink dude had with another Zionist conspiracy guy, Eric Hufschmid => http://prothink.podomatic.com/player/2008-02-22T19_39_01-08_00?src=http%3A%2F%2Fprothink.podOmatic.com%2Fenclosure%2F2008-02-22T19_39_01-08_00.mp3&flv=0).  Rather, I believe he feels he'd be doing more harm than good to the truth movement if he entertained the Zionist angle.  And perhaps his ability to get the truth out to the maximum number of people would be greatly comprised if he suddenly were labeled "antisemite."  Alex is the 800 lb gorilla in the room when it comes to truth news and information, and he has certainly earned the title.

Although I very much enjoyed the "real show" today, and hearing Alex go off, I also would enjoy hearing Alex engage/discuss these Zionist conspiracy theories and theorists without simply bullying and swearing at them. I'd like to hear and see more on this in the future, especially if Alex can do better in debunking what they're saying.

Me too. I've just posted a question for Alex about this very subject in the 'Questions for Alex' thread.

QUOTE(John Galt): "There is definitely something to what is being said by these folks, in my initial opinion."

There certainly is.

[onehundredmonkeys]

it is just his style and he has never been one for being politically correct.

also he does not do that during the first 3 hours.

as long time listeners go, it is nice to see him let things fly for just a little bit.

i mean people have to get mad.

they are truly trying to kill us and being pc is a very low priority.

some people may get turned off, but when they finally wake up they realize why he is pissed at how much ignorance to these killers plans there are in the world.

Now don't get me wrong here, i am mad as hell and will not take it anymore either.
But if he will continue this format, i predict it will be for a short period.
It is making it way too easy for callers like the one that made all the fuzz, to distract from the real issues.
Shouting eff you see kay will not do much good for a adult discussion. Just hang up and continue the show. (for some hypocrytical reason f u c k can not be writen in the forum that is connected to the show but hey.)
Although, judging by the reactions here, it seems it IS a big deal to do this, maybe its an US American thing.

[onehundredmonkeys]

I believe that's one asshole who said he would beat up Alex at an 9/11 event.

dude you are soooooo much better than Alex.

thanks for blessing us with your awesome and illuminating presence.

Yeah, Sane a response like that will start a 'real discussion'

[onehundredmonkeys]

What is WITH that obsessive focus on F U C K anyways?
Get to the discussion, and when AJ does not want it to be on air THEN DON'T and get him after schools's out! fcol
It sure get rumor mills working and that is a good meant to get attraction to the show, if you fall for that.
Up till now i found it 'reasonably' ok, but the tactics/games that are played out now, hey AJ is not the onlyway i get my info. He is just on my bookmarks list, and i think i will move on.

don't forget to buy the stuff that is well documented, and the gold and silver and and... 

[darsie]

Well it was fun to listen to that collision between Alex and the prothink guy, they certainly don't like each other. Alex might have overreacted a bit, it could have been handled in a smarter way but the prothink guy laughing like that just puts fuel into the fire. Noone is perfect. But just hating prothink because Alex hates them isn't a very smart move too. Sure they say its all the zionists fault and everyone who says otherwise is an agent but they also made some good videos confronting government officials. Well I think there are more I only watched the one where they confronted Sensenbrenner. (which btw translates to scytheburner)

Some here should stay more objective and stop bashing everyone who is pissing off Alex. Its like an Alex worship cult. I doubt he would endorse such behavior, he always says he don't want to be a leader and people following him like fanatics. If you believe the prothink guy is scum its fine with me but to dismiss all the information he is gathering is stupid. Its just like with the mainstream media. Mostly disinfo and propaganda but sometimes gives valuable information. So instead of fighting with each other in good old divide and conquer fashion we should pick out the things we agree on and work on that together.

I checked out the prothink forum earlier and they're gloating over the fact that they were able to wind-up Alex. Pathetic really.

There's also talk about 'peppering' other forums.

I don't think it's any stretch of the imagination to suggest that Alex's livelihood - freedom - and even life's on the line if the NWO order does eventually prevail and dominate. These are precarious times and I can imagine and sympathisize with the anger that must be within him when confronted by someone like prothink aka Mike.

[FOWL]

It is Alex's show, and of course he can do what he wants, but for the casual listener tuning in for the first time, it appeared he blew up over nothing, and then never explained what the history between himself and that guy was to evoke such a reaction.  When you are disseminating important life and death information that the majority of the public will call you insane for discusssing, going on a name calling rant at hearing the word "www.prothink.com" is not doing himeslf any favours.  I know it makes me question continuing to send people to his radio show as many people will dismiss the message on hearing that type of public outburst.  Just a thought.

[Dig]

AJ - spends his life dedicated to this country and upholding the constitution

nothink - spends his life getting a kick out of ryling up true patriots

wow, I wonder who I will give more credibility to

hey guys instead of doing real research and trying to really help this country, seems like you rather try to distract people from what is really going on.  Nice.

hey nothink, if you are so brave why don't you confront gergen like AJ did or bryzinskaf**k like wearechange?

I guess you rather spend all your energy with infighting instead of really going after the problem.

There are multiple power hungry groups that all subscribe to an NWO.  zionists, nazis, socialists, freemason, royal families, MIC, CACI, BCCI, CFR, AEI, World Bank, Deutche Bank, EU, SPP, Strong, UN CED, wahabbis, rockefeller, rothschild, beatrice, christian mafia, etc.  if you want to go after just one of these groups like Hitler did, you will probably just be another puppet just like Hitler was.

wake people up to the insanity of these ideas (NWO, population control, eugenics, feudalism, etc.) and there will no longer be any followers.

Focus on just one of these groups as the root of all evil and watch yourself being used as a tool for NWO to create more infighting.

[onehundredmonkeys]

AJ - spends his life dedicated to this country and upholding the constitution

nothink - spends his life getting a kick out of ryling up true patriots

wow, I wonder who I will give more credibility to

hey guys instead of doing real research and trying to really help this country, seems like you rather try to distract people from what is really going on.  Nice.

hey nothink, if you are so brave why don't you confront gergen like AJ did or bryzinskaf**k like wearechange?

I guess you rather spend all your energy with infighting instead of really going after the problem.

There are multiple power hungry groups that all subscribe to an NWO.  zionists, nazis, socialists, freemason, royal families, MIC, CACI, BCCI, CFR, AEI, World Bank, Deutche Bank, EU, SPP, Strong, UN CED, wahabbis, rockefeller, rothschild, beatrice, christian mafia, etc.  if you want to go after just one of these groups like Hitler did, you will probably just be another puppet just like Hitler was.

wake people up to the insanity of these ideas (NWO, population control, eugenics, feudalism, etc.) and there will no longer be any followers.

Focus on just one of these groups as the root of all evil and watch yourself being used as a tool for NWO to create more infighting.

I would agree to the 'focus' part.
There is al lot going on that DOES need reporting and discussing imo. The hype on the new show format was to be expected, but will fade away just like other 'highlights' did.
Leave the afterschool fights for that age-groups?

[citizenguy]

...I also would enjoy hearing Alex engage/discuss these Zionist conspiracy theories and theorists without simply bullying and swearing at them.

using a bad word against a bad guy is ok. alex jones's anger was justified.

john galt, i would like to see you have a radio show and then take non-screened calls.

[citizenguy]

in matthew 5:22 of the nkjv, jesus christ said, "but i say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause..."

alex jones had a cause.

[Danis]

Really wish some people would stop thinking: If you're not with us, you're with the [insert disliked group].

There is a lot of good information on all sides, but I'm not going to waste most of my time reading counterfactual articles, that tend to appear more often than real evidence on these alternative theory websites.

Some people out there just want to be part of a clique and not do any real investigating, except for spending most of there time bashing other people.

Glad I've decided to take my own path and gather up any interesting scraps of information on the way.

[mad_norwegian]

Total BULLSHIT. Jones speak of sionism and israel once in a while. The difference is, he doesnt blame all jews for this. Now, I have seen jews 2 times here in norway that I know of (they are very few here), none had suits or drived fancy cars but looked rather poor, if all jews are into this, then everyone should have money coming out of theyre asses. Most jews are like most people i guess and seen here more like a french or english or someone from a part of our country far away, a regular westerner, a bit exotic but noone minds them (exept muslims and some neonazis where the neonazis count around 100 persons in total in this country). What Jones does is simply saying SIONISM is a part of this, as parts of the catholic church, and some muslims, or even maybe buddhists (dont know about that but to state my point). Sionism is just a religion/ideology, a gang/group, not a race of people. Theyre comparable to the european counterpart, the neonazis, both with this "supermachist" view of themselves. Sionism are simply nazism for jews, but much more tolerated because of the jews history.

[citizenofdarepublic]

what does pwnd mean

[chris jones]

Hi Folks.

I have been a beleiver in Aj's quest for the truth for some time. This man is dedicated to this country, its freedoms and the Constitution. In short the rights of the people and the honor of this nation.
Ya know, one must have a conscience to fight for freedom, as I have said before conscience and soul are related. My belief in this can not be altered,only, perhaps with a two tap to the head.
The point I am making, is to focus on the reality of the web, the message and the men and woman who's truest wish is to see this country regain its honor and its freedom. Therfor I can not cast stones because a man of this dedication has proven beyond a doubt that he loves this nation and cares to defend its people from the pathetic parasites who seek to destroy it.
Many have written in regards to his use of profanity recently, I understand, and I am sure his outburst was for a good reason. Judge a man by his fruits not by a slip of the tongue.
This guy has soul, he knows it and is by far the most dedicated American I have seen in many a year.
Years ago a man fought for his countrys liberty, fought against tyrany, against English domination and cruelty by the so called royalty. He was betrayed by those same nobles and tortured to death by the English. His last words , in fact his last breath, was to say the word, FREEDOM. He did not live see his country free, but shortly after it was. Scotland 1600's, W.Wallace.
A fine example of patriotism, and the fight against tyrany.
It is imperitive we stop this regime, the NWO, and the profiteers now, or there will no longer be a free nation.

[cloudsifter]

what does pwnd mean

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pwn

[Tom Marvolo Riddle]

Look Ladies and Gentelmen, no one is perfect. And I am without doubt that AJ would agree that people are people and people are not perfect. So he let slip something some would rightfully find offensive. Give the man a break though, he is on 6 days a week, does a TV show and makes documentary's. All this while trying to be a husband and father. What I'm getting at is that that is an awful lot to take on, and only someone who has a passion for what they are doing is going to be able to do it. But along with that has to come a lot of stress, you can hear it in voice sometimes. Lets not judge one comment or word here.

[chris jones]

Hi Folks.

I have been a beleiver in Aj's quest for the truth for some time. This man is dedicated to this country, its freedoms and the Constitution. In short the rights of the people and the honor of this nation.
Ya know, one must have a conscience to fight for freedom, as I have said before conscience and soul are related. My belief in this can not be altered,only, perhaps with a two tap to the head.
The point I am making, is to focus on the reality of the web, the message and the men and woman who's truest wish is to see this country regain its honor and its freedom. Therfor I can not cast stones because a man of this dedication has proven beyond a doubt that he loves this nation and cares to defend its people from the pathetic parasites who seek to destroy it.
Many have written in regards to his use of profanity recently, I understand, and I am sure his outburst was for a good reason. Judge a man by his fruits not by a slip of the tongue.
This guy has soul, he knows it and is by far the most dedicated American I have seen in many a year.
Years ago a man fought for his countrys liberty, fought against tyrany, against English domination and cruelty by the so called royalty. He was betrayed by those same nobles and tortured to death by the English. His last words , in fact his last breath, was to say the word, FREEDOM. He did not live see his country free, but shortly after it was. Scotland 1600's, W.Wallace.
A fine example of patriotism, and the fight against tyrany.
It is imperitive we stop this regime, the NWO, and the profiteers now, or there will no longer be a free nation.

[dogmadestroyer]

Prothink,

I think you might need to watch this, http://youtube.com/watch?v=rfp7FbsnsbU thank you , have a good day:)

Goddamn I just got rickroll'd again!!!

[SuzakaDusk]

Goddamn I just got rickroll'd again!!!

Dog, Well I did address it to "nothink" was meant for him and not anyone else..

I however apologise to you about the "rickroll".

I think it did the trick thou, as the little shit has not replied back since...

Now I say that was a good "rickroll" eh

[dogmadestroyer]

Dog, Well I did address it to "nothink" was meant for him and not anyone else..

I however apologise to you about the "rickroll".

I think it did the trick thou, as the little shit has not replied back since...

Now I say that was a good "rickroll" eh

No prob. At least it wasn't the scaryroll. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKY5vvDC7Bc

[redpills1]

...from prothink.org
http://www.prothink.org/2008/02/rough-draft-of-hierarchy-of-finding.html

Hierarchy Of Finding Truth (A Rough Draft)

The process of evolved information, rough cut:

Stage 1:
MSM and all other mainstream publications

Stage 2:
anti-wtf: Michael Moore, anti-war groups, peace groups, and other various worthless groups

Stage 3:
Anti-government/nwo: Alex Jones, Loose Change, Aaron Russo, Ron Paul, and most of the 9/11 websites and troof tellers

Stage 4:
Anti-zionist: Eric Hufschmid, Daryl Bradford Smith, Chris Bollyn, Jim Condit Jr, Eustace Mullins, Prothink, Khanverse, Chris Jon Bjerknes, Michael Collins Piper, Ry Dawson, WingTV (correct group but some of the players in this field aren't who they appear, Zio-shills)

Stage 5???:
Now if you made it to researching Zionism and see how big they are, the Zionist have set up a bypass theory so you don't stay focused on the Zionist agenda and this is where the fake Jesuit theory comes in. The Jesuit 'camp' do have some great information and obviously all of them write off the likes of Alex Jones because if you were smart enough to see into the Zionist conspiracy you certainly wouldn't be falling for AJ's BS. But this is about it. All their other BS is so far off from factual based evidence that you would have to be really stretching reality to make this theory fit. Their claim to fame, and why I think it is a fraud (well besides the overwhelming lack of real facts), is that they say the Jesuits own/control the Zionists. This is so you don't spend too much researching the Zionist theory because if you are this far than its obvious you are looking for the head of snake and wouldn't want to spend time focusing on limbs of a group and this is how the Jesuit theory works for the Zionists. They never get into deep history of the Zionist like you will find on www.iamthewitness.com, or other hardcore facts that people like Chris Bollyn have dug up on 9/11(Alex Jones/Loose Change camp wont touch), nope. They just want you to believe in their fake knights of milkshake (malta) theory and have no long history or HARD FACTS to back up their theory. Eric Hufschmid did a very good job of debunking this theory here:
http://www.erichufschmid.net/Infiltrate/VaticanInfiltration.html

And Here:
http://www.erichufschmid.net/TFC/BlackPope.html

So basically that is the rough draft breakdown of how this all works, and the Zionists have all stages covered as controlled opposition except for some good people in the anti-zionist movement. You will have to find out who are the honest ones yourselves.

[Brocke]

Is it just me or is this thread degenerating into a Trollfest?

[dogmadestroyer]

Is it just me or is this thread degenerating into a Trollfest?

Trollfest you say?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFO6QSm6m7g