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« Reply #80 on: May 30, 2008, 12:44:28 PM »

Thanks for these great links!
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« Reply #81 on: June 09, 2008, 07:10:35 AM »

I heard he was taking them to court but I haden't heard that he won. Good news.
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« Reply #82 on: June 12, 2008, 04:50:07 PM »

THINK.

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« Reply #83 on: July 19, 2008, 09:31:00 AM »

The previous google links seem to be gone. But I found a working link:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6262083407501596844
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« Reply #84 on: September 21, 2008, 05:42:12 AM »

Another great post gone unnoticed. Everyone needs to wake up get the movies:

"The World According to Monsanto"
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4098947/World_According_to_Monsanto_-_DVDRip_English.mp4

"GMO Trilogy"
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3552536/The_GMO_Trilogy__2_DVD_Rips__1_ebook__amp__Audio_CD_(HQ)


If you live in rural farm towns like I do, put these on DVDs and put them in the farmers' mailboxes.
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« Reply #85 on: September 21, 2008, 06:21:44 AM »

Can more people seed and leech "The World According to Monsanto" ?
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« Reply #86 on: September 21, 2008, 07:02:32 AM »

http://www.seedsofdeception.com/Public/Home/index.cfm
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« Reply #87 on: September 21, 2008, 07:22:11 AM »

Nice link.  Will check out the videos as suggested.  Also, you might want to check these out:

Shut Up and Eat Your GMOs - podcast episode

Even Royal Eugenicists Can't Stop GMOs - article

Dr. Neil Carman on GMOs - interview
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« Reply #88 on: September 21, 2008, 07:26:43 AM »

Nice link.  Will check out the videos as suggested.  Also, you might want to check these out:

Shut Up and Eat Your GMOs - podcast episode

Even Royal Eugenicists Can't Stop GMOs - article

Dr. Neil Carman on GMOs - interview

Yes please leach and seed the GMO Movies on btjunkie.org or piratebay.org. Its perfectly legal (for now) to seed these movies they are all open use.
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« Reply #89 on: September 21, 2008, 07:37:56 AM »

Farmers everywhere use GMOs right? Anywhere you see RoundUp the farmer obviously has roundup ready crops?
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« Reply #90 on: September 21, 2008, 09:26:58 AM »

I knew a long time ago that Roundup was some very nasty stuff. 

Thanks so much for the information.
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« Reply #91 on: September 21, 2008, 09:50:34 AM »

What did farmers use before RoundUP?
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« Reply #92 on: September 21, 2008, 10:00:53 AM »

The movie 'Michael Clayton' was specifically aimed at Monsanto.

And, just a 'theory' about the explosions in the twin towers (please remember this is just a theory-but the asbestos that was in the buildings then in the air was fact):

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=54877.msg270053#msg270053
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« Reply #93 on: September 21, 2008, 10:33:54 AM »

What did farmers use before RoundUP?

They would use crop rotation.  They would plant certain flowers (i.e.; Marigolds-keep the away aphids) that would repel certain insects in order to plant tomatoes, cabbage, or potatoes.
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« Reply #94 on: September 21, 2008, 11:04:59 AM »

They would use crop rotation.  They would plant certain flowers (i.e.; Marigolds-keep the away aphids) that would repel certain insects in order to plant tomatoes, cabbage, or potatoes.

Very interesting. To my understanding Roundup kills everything except GMO, specially modified plants. Now did they crack the genetic code or did they selectively breed these plants to resist roundup?
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« Reply #95 on: September 21, 2008, 11:23:14 AM »

Very interesting. To my understanding Roundup kills everything except GMO, specially modified plants. Now did they crack the genetic code or did they selectively breed these plants to resist roundup?

How I understand it is GMO plants have been modified by inserting a gene that makes the plant resistant to the glyphosate, which is the toxic herbicide, sold under the trade name Roundup.
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« Reply #96 on: September 21, 2008, 11:30:11 AM »

How I understand it is GMO plants have been modified by inserting a gene that makes the plant resistant to the glyphosate, which is the toxic herbicide, sold under the trade name Roundup.

There isn't a farmer in Mississippi that doesn't use roundup, so everything here is GM food.... amazing.. I never even knew it.
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« Reply #97 on: September 21, 2008, 12:02:11 PM »

You guys need to watch The World According to Monsanto.... They use a "Gene Gun" to fire flakes of gold to modify the genetics! Ive never seen anything like this... how long before they use the gene gun on us?
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« Reply #98 on: September 21, 2008, 12:17:17 PM »

There isn't a farmer in Mississippi that doesn't use roundup, so everything here is GM food.... amazing.. I never even knew it.

Research this stuff and then make it a point to spread the dangers of the GMO stuff far and wide in your area.  It is critical that more farmers get educated about this nasty stuff before it is too late and these crops are spread throughout the U.S.!


Monsanto: herbicide powerhouse
The GMO seed giant expects Roundup to generate $1.8 billion in profits in 2008
Posted by Tom Philpott at 4:54 PM on 16 Sep 2008
http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/9/16/134046/599?source=daily

Monsanto positions itself as a green company.

"Using the tools of modern biology," its website informs us, "we help farmers grow more yield sustainably so they can produce more and conserve more."

Compare that twaddle to this bit from Monsanto's announcement on Tuesday:

    [Monsanto's Chief Financial Officer Terry] Crews will indicate that Monsanto's Roundup® and other glyphosate-based herbicides business is on track to be above $1.9 billion of gross profit for the 2008 fiscal year, ahead of the previous forecast.

Wow. Nearly $2 billion in profit, from Roundup alone. As recently as February, Monsanto was expecting to make $1.4 billion from its herbicide division this year. I guess farmers applied it even more copiously than expected.

But the company isn't just churning out profit by peddling weed-killer. Its seeds are doing pretty well, too -- particularly corn:

    Crews will also note that for the 2008 fiscal year, the company's corn business should exceed $2 billion in gross-profit generation for the first time.

Interesting. So it makes nearly as much on herbicide as it does on corn seeds. (Overall, the company expects to make $3.8 billion on seeds in '08).

Investors applauded Monsanto's announcement, sending shares up 7.5 percent Tuesday.

I wonder if they're being short-sighted. Monsanto's success rests on Roundup Ready technology -- selling seeds genetically engineered to withstand heavy doses of its flagship herbicide.

But Roundup-tolerant weeds (so-called "superweeds") are on the rise. Eventully, farmers will have to shift away from Roundup -- Monsanto's $1.8 billion cash cow.

Meanwhile, Bayer is rolling out a new line of herbicide-tolerant seeds, this one designed to withstand doses of Bayer's glufosinate herbicide. Ain't the agrichemical industry grand?
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« Reply #99 on: September 21, 2008, 01:10:56 PM »

Seeds are not the only manipulation of nature, they've introduced ATLANTIC salmon farms in the PACIFIC.  The dominant species is Atlantic and their are fears they could desimate the Pacific salmon and other fish species, indeed they've already had "spills" of these superbreed salmon into the local waters.  I just can't understand how our grandfathers and their fathers (and mothers) were ever able to feed us without such "technology".  Oh yeah, my bad.  Lock em up and throw away the key, evil bastards.
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« Reply #100 on: September 21, 2008, 02:45:49 PM »

If you need some films about this to help get the word out:

The World According to Monsanto
http://www.veoh.com/search.html?type=v&searchId=232631992727333938&search=world+according+to+monsanto

Monsanto - Patent For A Pig
http://www.veoh.com/search.html?search=patent+for+a+pig&searchId=3854120946440506368&settings=%257B%2522searchTerm%2522%253A%2520%2522patent%2520for%2520a%2520pig%2522%252C%2520%2522order%2522%253A%2520%2522%2522%252C%2520%2522range%2522%253A%2520%2522a%2522%252C%2520%2522runLengthMin%2522%253A%25200%252C%2520%2522runLengthMax%2522%253A%25205%252C%2520%2522category%2522%253A%2520%2522%2522%252C%2520%2522language%2522%253A%2520%2522%2522%252C%2520%2522subtitle%2522%253A%2520%2522%2522%252C%2520%2522type%2522%253A%2520%2522v%2522%252C%2520%2522view%2522%253A%2520%2522detail%2522%252C%2520%2522numResults%2522%253A%252020%252C%2520%2522display%2522%253A%2520%25221110%2522%252C%2520%2522offset%2522%253A%25200%252C%2520%2522reset%2522%253A%2520false%252C%2520%2522searchId%2522%253A%2520%2522232631992727333938%2522%257D
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« Reply #101 on: September 21, 2008, 03:00:02 PM »

A few years back I worked for a survey company, at one point it was a survey for farmers, when I had many of them tell me that Monsanto was killing their farm... one guy said he had never done business with Monsanto, but their lawyers showed up, took a sample of his wheat and then told him that he was using a 'Round up ready wheat' and had to pay monsanto a fine for 'stealing' the product... that was one of about 10-15 people I talked to personally that either had direct experience or had seen/heard of this type of pressure tactic.

Often on the small farms that can't afford to pay the exhorbitant cost of the seed.
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« Reply #102 on: September 21, 2008, 03:05:57 PM »

A few years back I worked for a survey company, at one point it was a survey for farmers, when I had many of them tell me that Monsanto was killing their farm... one guy said he had never done business with Monsanto, but their lawyers showed up, took a sample of his wheat and then told him that he was using a 'Round up ready wheat' and had to pay monsanto a fine for 'stealing' the product... that was one of about 10-15 people I talked to personally that either had direct experience or had seen/heard of this type of pressure tactic.

Often on the small farms that can't afford to pay the exhorbitant cost of the seed.

Check out Patent For A Pig--the gene they say they own has been found in pigs all over Germany, and they want those farmers to pay up.

The US Patent Office is a disaster since they abdicated their responsibility and basically decided "we'll just patent everything and let the courts sort it out."

Monsanto has even been patenting all the seeds in the US gov seed bank--which belongs to all of us.
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« Reply #103 on: September 21, 2008, 05:42:47 PM »

This was NOT the best thread to read well I'm eating. I do not like looking at my dinner with suspicion.

I don't get why if they know their cotton is toxic they would keep pushing it? Building a company is not a short term goal, or at least it shouldn't be. You don't just want to sell product this year you want to sell product for the next hundred years.

If you sell a product this year that is bad, next year it's going to affect the size of your customer base in a negative way.

It sounds to me like not only does this company not understand the very sciences they are working with, they don't understand longterm business planning ether.

On the up side I think robotics will eventually lead to the end of the pesticide industry. Insects can develop resistance to chemicals, but nothing can develop a resistance to brute force. Once we have insect sized hunter killers to target pests the use of pesticide will be obsolete.
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« Reply #104 on: September 21, 2008, 08:48:09 PM »

The movie I got earlier today The World According to Monsanto sums it up nicely. These people are seriously sick, 1/2 the people at the USDA/FDA are from Monsanto, 1/2 the people at Monsanto are from the USDA/FDA..... you are fired if you question anything, these guys tried to bribe Canadian officials to get the milk hormone approved.....its crazyness. Get the movie.


http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4354288/The.World.According.to.Monsanto.2008.DVDRip.XviD-DiSSENT
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« Reply #105 on: September 21, 2008, 11:09:30 PM »

Check out Patent For A Pig--the gene they say they own has been found in pigs all over Germany, and they want those farmers to pay up.

The US Patent Office is a disaster since they abdicated their responsibility and basically decided "we'll just patent everything and let the courts sort it out."

Monsanto has even been patenting all the seeds in the US gov seed bank--which belongs to all of us.

Yes, those pigs with cow skin are real, and they are featured in the GMO Trilogy.
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« Reply #106 on: September 21, 2008, 11:18:26 PM »

Genetically modified foods are going to become mans greatest threat to survival within the next twenty five years.  It will require nothing short of a well organized army to rid the Earth from the poisons that man has introduced. 
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« Reply #107 on: September 21, 2008, 11:37:33 PM »

Genetically modified foods are going to become mans greatest threat to survival within the next twenty five years.  It will require nothing short of a well organized army to rid the Earth from the poisons that man has introduced. 

Has anyone ever asked the question: How did the American Boll Worm end up in the cotton fields of India?
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« Reply #108 on: September 22, 2008, 12:07:52 AM »

sure this has been posed before... but


should we be worried about what we eat or should we be
worried that supply is now all engineered with a distinct
likeness thus giving the the supply an exact same
*possible* built in vulenrabilty across the board.
making easier for it to be gone with just one unlucky
bout of disease or famine, etc.

ie instead of a % of animals/plants getting sick they ALL do if
attacked exploiting their engineered likeness.

make a good  armageddon book at least.
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« Reply #109 on: September 22, 2008, 04:14:36 AM »

sure this has been posed before... but


should we be worried about what we eat or should we be
worried that supply is now all engineered with a distinct
likeness thus giving the the supply an exact same
*possible* built in vulenrabilty across the board.
making easier for it to be gone with just one unlucky
bout of disease or famine, etc.

ie instead of a % of animals/plants getting sick they ALL do if
attacked exploiting their engineered likeness.

make a good  armageddon book at least.
aye


Damn straight you should be worried about what you eat--avoid GMO and rbgh milk at all cost.
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« Reply #110 on: September 22, 2008, 07:24:15 AM »

Does anyone know if Kirk Azevedo is still alive or was he 'suicided/cancered'?

He'd make a great guest for Alex's show.

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« Reply #111 on: September 22, 2008, 03:25:58 PM »

Can you guys help me with an infowar on finance.google.com & finance.yahoo.com? just type in ticker symbol MON (monsanto) and post links to the seeds of deception and say how monsanto has ruined their reputation and put a stong sell rating on it. Finance.yahoo.com is getting a ton of hits because the market is falling.
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« Reply #112 on: September 22, 2008, 03:31:39 PM »

Can you guys help me with an infowar on finance.google.com & finance.yahoo.com? just type in ticker symbol MON (monsanto) and post links to the seeds of deception and say how monsanto has ruined their reputation and put a stong sell rating on it. Finance.yahoo.com is getting a ton of hits because the market is falling.


http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/mb/MON

http://finance.google.com/finance?q=mon

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« Reply #113 on: September 22, 2008, 03:33:14 PM »


Excellent New Documentary About MONSANTO!!

On March 11 a new documentary aired on French television (ARTE – French-German cultural tv channel) by French journalist and film maker Marie-Monique Robin, The World According to Monsanto - A documentary that Americans won't ever see....The gigantic biotech corporation Monsanto is threatening to destroy the agricultural biodiversity which has served mankind for thousands of years.

I'm 100% against illegal immigration. However, this made me realize how some Mexican farmers are being completely screwed over and are almost forced to come up here. Down with Monsanto for harming every country they're in!!!

You must watch this!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-842180934463681887


http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4354288/The.World.According.to.Monsanto.2008.DVDRip.XviD-DiSSENT
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« Reply #114 on: September 22, 2008, 05:42:34 PM »

That new google link works. Thank for posting it. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6262083407501596844
Here is a list of all the American Soybean leadership, most with emails. I suggest letting them know how we feel and let them know about this documentary. http://www.soygrowers.com/about/board.htm

Looking at this page will tell you how controlled by GMO companies the ASA is. (Celebrating one billionth biotech acre and looking forward to two billion!) http://www.soygrowers.com/biotech/default.htm



John Hoffman (jhoffman@neotek.net),was vice president at the time of the documentary, now he is president of the ASA. This is the face of who is killing you and your family. If the ASA had any morals, they would pressure the FDA to ban all GMOs especially Roundup Ready Soybeans.

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« Reply #115 on: September 23, 2008, 12:08:57 AM »

These guys are pure evil. Go on to the messages boards on financial forums and tell the truth.

finance.yahoo.com

finance.google.com
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« Reply #116 on: September 25, 2008, 11:40:55 AM »

This movie was awesome, Ive watched it twice and put it in 3 farmers' mailboxes.
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« Reply #117 on: December 10, 2008, 10:53:09 AM »

Good news, "The World According To Monsanto" DVD is set to be released in the USA. Now google videos will not be the only place Americans can see this.
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The long-awaited film by French filmmaker Marie-Monique Robin is now available in the US!

Formal release of this chilling documentary is scheduled for fall, 2008 with public showings around the nation, but the film is now available as a pre-publication release.

Monsanto's controversial past combines some of the most toxic products ever sold with misleading reports, pressure tactics, collusion, and attempted corruption. They now race to genetically engineer (and patent) the world's food supply, which profoundly threatens our health, environment, and economy. Combining secret documents with first-hand accounts by victims, scientists, and politicians, this widely praised film exposes why Monsanto has become the world's poster child for malignant corporate influence in government and technology. 109 minutes

More info about it's release here http://www.seedsofdeception.com/Public/Home/index.cfm
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« Reply #118 on: December 10, 2008, 12:25:34 PM »

I posted this blog article (taken from some posts in this thread), and damn, my viewership just shot up big time.

http://darthchaosofrspw.wordpress.com/2008/12/10/american-soybean-association-under-the-control-of-monsanto-and-related-gmo-companies/
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« Reply #119 on: January 10, 2009, 06:51:46 PM »

Monsanto Investigator in Illinois Laughs They Are Doing 'Rural Cleansing'
http://www.opednews.com/articles/MONSANTO-investigator-in-by-Linn-Cohen-Cole-090110-871.html

by Linn Cohen-Cole
As of last night, a US marshall, 2 state police and a county police are all over Mr. Hixon's area, serving notices to farmers that they are being sued by Monsanto.  They arrive in pairs, with two cars parked a quarter mile and half mile down the road.  They've served 3 so far and said "a bunch more are coming."  No telling how many will be served since Hixon has between 200-400 farmers he cleans seeds for and these farmers have been repeatedly threatened by Monsanto thugs for the last two months, getting "visits," letters, and calls daily.

Farmers report that a Monsanto investigator laughed that they were doing "rural cleansing."

Steve Hixon is a seed cleaner in southern Illinois.  He has equipment that takes the plant materials and "cleans" it so that the seeds are separated out and can be given back to farmers to save for the next season.  It's a mechanized step up from farmers hand picking seeds off their own plants, which, with hundreds of acres - or even 10 - would not be easy to do.

Mr. Hixon has the non-distinction of being attacked by Monsanto.  He is far from alone.  Monsanto has been picking off seed cleaners across the Midwest, having already done its thuggish thing in Pilot Grove, Missouri, and in Indiana, attacking Maurice Parr, destroying business for all of them.

Mr. Parr reports that when he was sued, the first think out of the judge said was how "honored to have a fine company like Monsanto in my courtroom."

"Shortly after someone broke into Mr. Hixon's office and he found his account book on his truck seat where he would never have left it, evey one of his remotely located and very scattered customers had three men (described as goons with "no necks") arrived at each farm, going out onto it without permission ...  Mr. Hixon and state police who were called in, believe a GPS tracking device may have been put on Mr. Hixon's equipment."  Click here.

In 2002, when Mr. Hixon was at the state legislature for a meeting, he said he told a Monsanto representative there, "If you guys wnt to tak over the seed industry so bad, you ought to buy guys like me out."  The Monsanto agent is supposed to have responded "We'd rather put you out of business, it's more fun that way."

Mr. Hixon says that when he is cleaning seeds, he is pouring $13,000 a hour into the local economy, which right now is being hit.  A fence company has gone out of business and other businesses are in trouble.  And in using seeds that have been cleaned, those seeds have carbon footprint, by Mr. Hixon's figures, less than a fraction of 1% of that of GMO seeds delivered over 1000s of miles at 5 miles a gallon that semis require to run.

But Monsanto's GM-soy and other seeds have a much heavier carbon footprint that the absurd transport of seed across the country by semis.  Petroleum-based pesticides are the essence of genetic engineering, and Monsanto has a poorly known history of their relation to warfare.

    "Huge excesses of nitrogenous compounds that accumulated during World War I provided the basis for the beginnings of the mass production of synthetic nitrate fertilizers. DuPont -- now the sole owner of the world's largest seed company, Pioneer HiBred -- was the largest manufacturer of gunpowder in the United States during the early 19th century and the first World War. Monsanto increased its profits 100 fold during the World War, from $80,000 to well over $9 million per year, supplying the chemical precursors for high explosives such as TNT.

    "In the 1930s, chemists working for the German company Bayer discovered the highly poisonous properties of organophosphate compounds. .... As all of German industry became absorbed into the growing Nazi war machine, Bayer's organophosphate compounds were developed simultaneously as agricultural pesticides and as nerve gases for military use. These included such notorious chemical warfare agents as sarin, soman and tabun gases, all of which are still manufactured today. ...

    "In the 1930s, scientists at the Swiss J. R. Geigy Company were searching for new compounds to disinfect seeds and prevent moths from feeding on wool. ... These researchers' key discovery was that DDT ... could accomplish both of their desired ends and more. ... DDT was seen as the "atom bomb of insecticides," capable of permanently eliminating various pest species.

    "After World War II, DDT became the most widely applied chemical in human history .... The widespread use of DDT -- for both agricultural and household uses -- led to a dramatic shift in the chemical industry's approach to pest control ... was in many ways a direct outgrowth of its wartime origins. ...

    "During the 1960s, Monsanto was a leading manufacturer of the herbicide 'Agent Orange,' which was used by U.S. military forces to obliterate the dense jungles of Vietnam. Today Monsanto's Roundup-family herbicides play a central role in the U.S. "drug war" via its widespread use to eradicate coca and poppy plants in Colombia and other countries...."

The shift to genetically engineered food seems a welcome change from such a history.  But it appears there has been no change, only a more thorough and disguises means of ensuring its sales.

    "Of all of Monsanto, DuPont and Dow's agricultural products, genetically engineered food crops might appear to be the least tainted with immediate wartime origins. But this technology emerged from a period when the future of chemical agriculture appeared very much in doubt. With the rapid expansion of the agrochemical industry during the post-World War II era, these companies and their European counterparts had established a profound degree of control over agricultural practices.

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But as public pressure and the weight of scientific evidence curtailed the use of DDT and many other chlorinated pesticides in the 1970s, executives and corporate scientists saw the potential for limitless advances -- and ever-expanding marketing potential -- in the incorporation of technological advances into the genetics of seeds. During the 1990s, Monsanto alone spent nearly $8 billion acquiring leading commercial seed suppliers in the United States and internationally; DuPont and others quickly followed suit, leading to today's widespread proliferation of genetically engineered food crops." Click here.

Today, in Illinois, our federal agents and police, working on behalf of Monsanto, are terrorizing ...  whom?  Drug dealers?  Financiers who have stolen this country blind?  The people who took us to war based on lies and have profited while thousands of American and 100s of thousands of Iraqi have died?  No.  Our tax dollars are being used to turn our marshals and police into Monsanto agents to terrorize our disappearing farmers. 

Terror is palpable in rural America.  It defines American farming communities now.

Monsanto, with its history of warfare and creating chemicals to "cleanse" both enemies and agricultural pests of any area desired, appears to bring this power and method of thinking to all it touches.

"Rural cleansing" is its stated goal, and our farmers the pests to be eliminated.

Where is the Illinois ACLU?  Where is Amnesty?

Mid-West Office
53 West Jackson, Suite #731
Chicago, IL 60604
phone: (312) 427-2060
fax: (312) 427-2589
1-866-A-REGION
aiusamw@aiusa.org

ACLU of Illinois
180 N. Michigan, Ste 2300
Chicago, IL 60601
Phone: 312- 201-9740
Fax: 312-201-9760
Email: acluofillinois@aclu-il.org

Vilsack's nomination nears, a Monsanto appointment

Organic Consumers Association
6771 South Silver Hill Drive
Finland MN 55603
Contact: www.organicconsumers.org/aboutus.cfm#contact
Activist or Media Inquiries: 218-226-4164
Fax: 218-353-7652




 
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Investigate Monsanto's antitrust and criminal activities.
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