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To all, This was sent to me via a myspace bulletin, So I have merely posted what was sent to me.I would urge you all to herald caution to the images, I apologise first about it.I have got permission to post this and I wanted to highlight this crime against Iraqi women.I being a woman this has disturbed me in the highest degree it saddens me.Now some pictures might not show up as the original post was a day old I got this yesterday. And I noticed that photobucket has took one of the pictures off. I am posting this as it came I got the codes for the pictures from the actual bulletin I bear no responsibilty to any of the below pictures removed or still present.

Again I am sorry this has me upset and I am spreading the word what is going on there..

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Iraqi female detainees have been illegally  detained, raped and sexually violated by United  States military personnel. Women who stay at home  in traditional roles are more likely to be  imprisoned as bargaining chips by US troops  seeking to pressurize male relatives, according to  the New Statesmen (UK). In December 2003, a woman  prisoner, “Noor”, smuggled out a note stating that  US guards at Abu Ghraib had been raping women  detainees and forcing them to strip naked. Several  of the women were now pregnant. The classified  enquiry launched by the US military, headed by  Major General Antonio Taguba, has confirmed the  note by “Noor” and that sexual violence against  women at Abu Ghraib took place.



Among the 1,800 digital photographs taken by US  guards inside Abu Ghraib there were, according to  Taguba's report, images of naked male and female  detainees; a male Military Police guard “having  sex” with a female detainee; detainees (of  unspecified gender) forcibly arranged in various  sexually explicit positions for photographing; and  naked female detainees. The Bush administration  has refused to release photographs of Iraqi women  prisoners at Abu Ghraib, including those of women  forced at gunpoint to bare their breasts (although  these have been shown to Congress). UK Member of  Parliament Ann Clwyd (L) has confirmed a report of  an Iraqi woman in her 70s who had been harnessed  and ridden like a donkey at Abu Ghraib and another  coalition detention centre after being arrested  last July. Clwyd said: "She was held for about six  weeks without charge. During that time she was  insulted and told she was a donkey.



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The Italian journalist, Giuliana Sgrena, reports  that In the middle of the night, American soldiers  broke into the home of Mithal al Hassan and  arrested both her and her son. “The soldiers later  ransacked the apartment. Denounced as part of a  vendetta, Mithal was condemned without trial to  eighty days of horror in the company of other  women prisoners who, like her, were subjected to  abuse and torture. She has since spotted her  tormentors on the internet.” A culture of honor  prevents many women from telling stories of rapes.  The account given by “Selwa”, illustrates this. In  September 2003, Selwa was taken by US military  personnel to a detention facility in Tikrit, where  an American officer lit a mixture of human feces  and urine in a metal container and gave Selwa a  heavy club to stir it. She recalls, “The fire from  the pot felt very strong on my face.” She leans  forward and sweeps her hands through the air to  show how she stirred the excrement. “I became very  tired,” she says. “I told the sergeant I couldn’t  do it.” “There was another man close to us. The  sergeant came up to me and whispered in my ear,  ‘If you don’t, I will tell one of the soldiers to  f**k you.’” Selwa could not continue with the  story.



An Iraqi girl, Raghada, reports that her mother,  imprisoned at Abu Ghraib, was forced to eat from a  toilet and was urinated on
Iman Khamas, head of the International Occupation  Watch Center, a nongovernmental organization which  gathers information on human rights abuses under  coalition rule, has said; “one former detainee had  recounted the alleged rape of her cell mate in Abu  Ghraib.



” According to Khamas, the prisoner said; “she had  been rendered unconscious for 48 hours.” She  claimed; “She had been raped 17 times in one day  by Iraqi police in the presence of American  solders”.





Another woman, "Nadia," reported that she was  raped by US soldiers at Abu Ghraib prison. She  continues to be "imprisoned" by painful memories  that left her psychologically and physically  scarred.




Late last year, attorney Amal Kadham Swadi, one of  seven female lawyers now representing women  detainees in Abu Ghraib, began to piece together a  picture of systemic abuse and torture by US guards  against Iraqi women held in detention without  charge. This was not only true of Abu Ghraib, she  discovered, but was, as she put it, "happening all  across Iraq". Amal Kadham Swadi states that  “sexualized violence and abuse committed by US  troops goes far beyond a few isolated cases.” It  is unknown as to exactly how many female detainees  there are. ‘The International Committee of the Red  Cross reports that 30 women were housed in Abu  Ghraib last October, 2003, which was reduced to 0  by May 29, 2004”.




Swadi visited a detainee held at the US military  base a Al-Khakh, a former police compound in  Baghdad. The detainee disclosed that, “Several  American solders had raped her and that she had  tried to fight them off and they had hurt her  arm”.





Medical care for civilians was blocked by snipers  that are set up along the roads to Fallujah that  fire on ambulances. Doctors from the main hospital  in Amiriyat al-Fallujah are reporting; “The  Americans have snipers all along the road between  here and Fallujah. They are shooting our  ambulances if they try to go to Fallujah”. In  addition, medical supplies are being blocked from  being sent to hospitals by US troops. In nearby  Saqlawiyah, Doctor Abdulla Aziz reported that  supplies were being blocked from reaching or  leaving Amiriyat al-Fallujah; “They won’t let any  of our ambulances go to help Fallujah. We are out  of supplies and they won’t let anyone bring us  more”.




Obstruction of medical care to the civilian  population of Iraq seems to be a pattern that has  persisted. Dr. Abdul Jabbar, orthopedic surgeon at  Fallujah General Hospital claims that; “The  marines have said they didn’t close the hospital,  but essentially they did. They closed the bridge,  which connects us to the city, and closed our  roads. They prevented medical care reaching  countless patients in desperate need. Who knows  how many of them died that we could have saved?”.





In addition to blocking supplies and aid to  victims, hospital staff has been handcuffed and  interrogated and patient care has been violently  disrupted. “We were tied up and beaten despite  being unarmed and having only our medical  instruments,” reported Dr Asma Khamis al-Muhannadi  present during the raid on Fallujah General  Hospital. She reported abuse to civilian patients  as well; “troops dragged patients from their beds  and pushed them against the wall…I was with a  woman in labor, the umbilical cord had not yet  been cut,” she said. “At that time, a U.S. soldier  shouted at one of the [Iraqi] National Guards to  arrest me and tie my hands while I was helping the  mother to deliver”.

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Re: RAPE IN IRAQ - Discretion Advised GRAPHIC IMAGES, ( I am sorry )..
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2008, 11:41:23 pm »
They seem to have been moved or deleted but Route found them at this link:

http://www.aztlan.net/iraqi_women_raped.htm


Please Note: Many of the photographs showing the rape of Iraqi women and the sodomization of Iraqi POW's at the Abu Ghraib prison are now at USA pornographic websites pointing to the possibility of collusion between the depraved US soldiers in the pictures and US based Jewish pornographers. Many of these photographs were also freely disseminated to US occupation forces, perhaps to inflame their nefarious desires and to motivate them to strike out against the Iraqi populace in these perverse ways.)

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Los Angeles, Alta California - May 2, 2004 - (ACN) The release, by CBS News, of the photographs showing the heinous sexual abuse and torture of Iraqi POW's at the notorious Abu Ghraib prison has opened a Pandora's box for the Bush regime. Apparently, the suspended US commander of the prison where the worst abuses took place, Brigadier General Janis Karpinski, has refused to take the fall by herself and has implicated the CIA, Military Intelligence and private US government contractors in the torturing of POW's and in the raping of Iraqi women detainees as well.



Brigadier General Janis Karpinski said to the Washington Post that Military Intelligence, rather than the Military Police, dictated the treatment of prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison. "The prison, and that particular cellblock where the events took place, were under the control of the Military Intelligence command," Brigadier General Karpinski said to the Washington Post Saturday night in a telephone interview from her home in Hilton Head, South Carolina.

Brigadier General Karpinski, who commanded the 800th Military Police Brigade, described a high-pressure Military Intelligence and CIA command that prized successful interrogations. A month before the alleged abuses and rapes occurred, she said, a team of CIA, Military Intelligence officers and private consultants under the employ of the US government came to Abu Ghraib. "Their main and specific mission was to give the interrogators new techniques to get more information from detainees," she said.

[/img] http://www.aztlan.net/usa-rape-iraqi-woman.jpg[/img]

Today, new photographs were sent to La Voz de Aztlan from confidential sources depicting the shocking rapes of two Iraqi women by what are purported to be US Military Intelligence personnel and private US mercenaries in military fatigues. It is now known that hundreds of these photographs had been in circulation among the troops in Iraq. The graphic photos were being swapped between the soldiers like baseball cards.

Speaking on condition of anonymity, one Mexican-American soldier told La Voz de Aztlan, "Maybe the officers didn't know what was going on, but everybody else did. I have seen literally hundreds of these types of pictures." Many of the pictures were destroyed last September when the luggage of soldiers was searched as they left Iraq, he said

An investigation, led by Army Major General Antonio M. Taguba, identified two military intelligence officers and two civilian contractors for the Army as key figures in the abuse cases at the Abu Ghraib prison. In an internal report on his findings, Major General Taguba said he suspected that the four were "either directly or indirectly responsible for the abuses at Abu Ghraib and strongly recommended disciplinary action."

The Taguba report states that "military intelligence interrogators and other U.S. Government Agency interrogators actively requested that Military Police guards set physical and mental conditions for favorable interrogation of witnesses." The report noted that one civilian interrogator, a contractor from a company called CACI International and attached to the 205th Military Intelligence Brigade, "clearly knew his instructions" to the Military Police equated to physical and sexual abuse. It is not known whether these instructions included, or led to, the raping of Iraqi women detainees as well.


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A released Iraqi POW has come forward and stated to the internationl media that that he was sodomized at the Abu Ghraib prison while a female US soldier cheered and the entire incident filmed.
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« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2008, 11:47:49 pm »
Is this the new brand of freedom for Iraq,raping and degrading proud religious women,taking snippers shots at ambulances,the new Iraq huh ???
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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2008, 11:54:18 pm »
Karpinski is implicating EVERYONE. Lets see just how far this goes.
Will they charge anyone or dare try explain this sh!t away?
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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2008, 11:59:17 pm »
Is this the new brand of freedom for Iraq,raping and degrading proud religious women,taking snippers shots at ambulances,the new Iraq huh ???


I know it makes me so pissed off, regardless we know how bad Saddam was but I doubt very much if this happened there as it is now.One thing Saddam did was contain things..

WE HAVE RUINED IRAQ..

I hope all involved get charged with warcrimes..
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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2008, 12:01:22 am »
I'm sorry guys but f**k all us troops in Iraq. I just dont see how these soldiers were tricked into this war. You guys shouldn't worry about blackwater when the shit hits the fan, but these guys.

motherf**kers all deserve to burn !
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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2008, 12:06:42 am »
Those photos are staged and come from the Hungarian "Sex in War" site.

This story FIRST ran as British soldiers raping Iraqi women.
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« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2008, 12:12:31 am »
This is nothing short of horrible. What the hell is wrong with our government which allows this to happen?  The soldiers that were involved are despicable, clearly lack any conscious and need to be held accountable. If that wasnt bad enough these facilities are still open not to mention the other secret ones that we don’t know about. GRRRRRRRR.

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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2008, 12:14:44 am »
kregner what are you talking about?
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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2008, 12:17:50 am »
The photos are STAGED...they are from a PORNO site out of Hungary.

They are STILL inflaming the Arab world even as we type.

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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2008, 12:19:16 am »
source?

they look real man , i dont know.
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« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2008, 12:22:05 am »
The photos are STAGED...they are from a PORNO site out of Hungary.

They are STILL inflaming the Arab world even as we type.

Plan working...slide continues...sleep resumes...

I had heard that too somewhere, I'll see if I can find it again and if it's credible.  But, let's face it - we know it DOES happen.

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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2008, 12:25:05 am »
We all know rape, murder, mayhem and chaos ensue WHEREVER war is perpetrated. Always has, always will.

These pics are ENRAGING the Arab world right now, even though they are faked....as in...the men may very well be raping the women, but it is NOT U.S. soldiers and Iraqi women.

Some folks on here squeal quite loudly about 'divide and conquer', yet do not seem to see it where it really matters.
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« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2008, 12:27:14 am »
They seem to have been moved or deleted but Route found them at this link:

http://www.aztlan.net/iraqi_women_raped.htm


Please Note: Many of the photographs showing the rape of Iraqi women and the sodomization of Iraqi POW's at the Abu Ghraib prison are now at USA pornographic websites pointing to the possibility of collusion between the depraved US soldiers in the pictures and US based Jewish pornographers. Many of these photographs were also freely disseminated to US occupation forces, perhaps to inflame their nefarious desires and to motivate them to strike out against the Iraqi populace in these perverse ways.)

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Los Angeles, Alta California - May 2, 2004 - (ACN) The release, by CBS News, of the photographs showing the heinous sexual abuse and torture of Iraqi POW's at the notorious Abu Ghraib prison has opened a Pandora's box for the Bush regime. Apparently, the suspended US commander of the prison where the worst abuses took place, Brigadier General Janis Karpinski, has refused to take the fall by herself and has implicated the CIA, Military Intelligence and private US government contractors in the torturing of POW's and in the raping of Iraqi women detainees as well.



Brigadier General Janis Karpinski said to the Washington Post that Military Intelligence, rather than the Military Police, dictated the treatment of prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison. "The prison, and that particular cellblock where the events took place, were under the control of the Military Intelligence command," Brigadier General Karpinski said to the Washington Post Saturday night in a telephone interview from her home in Hilton Head, South Carolina.

Brigadier General Karpinski, who commanded the 800th Military Police Brigade, described a high-pressure Military Intelligence and CIA command that prized successful interrogations. A month before the alleged abuses and rapes occurred, she said, a team of CIA, Military Intelligence officers and private consultants under the employ of the US government came to Abu Ghraib. "Their main and specific mission was to give the interrogators new techniques to get more information from detainees," she said.

[/img] http://www.aztlan.net/usa-rape-iraqi-woman.jpg[/img]

Today, new photographs were sent to La Voz de Aztlan from confidential sources depicting the shocking rapes of two Iraqi women by what are purported to be US Military Intelligence personnel and private US mercenaries in military fatigues. It is now known that hundreds of these photographs had been in circulation among the troops in Iraq. The graphic photos were being swapped between the soldiers like baseball cards.

Speaking on condition of anonymity, one Mexican-American soldier told La Voz de Aztlan, "Maybe the officers didn't know what was going on, but everybody else did. I have seen literally hundreds of these types of pictures." Many of the pictures were destroyed last September when the luggage of soldiers was searched as they left Iraq, he said

An investigation, led by Army Major General Antonio M. Taguba, identified two military intelligence officers and two civilian contractors for the Army as key figures in the abuse cases at the Abu Ghraib prison. In an internal report on his findings, Major General Taguba said he suspected that the four were "either directly or indirectly responsible for the abuses at Abu Ghraib and strongly recommended disciplinary action."

The Taguba report states that "military intelligence interrogators and other U.S. Government Agency interrogators actively requested that Military Police guards set physical and mental conditions for favorable interrogation of witnesses." The report noted that one civilian interrogator, a contractor from a company called CACI International and attached to the 205th Military Intelligence Brigade, "clearly knew his instructions" to the Military Police equated to physical and sexual abuse. It is not known whether these instructions included, or led to, the raping of Iraqi women detainees as well.


Iraqi POW Torture Photographs (Click Here)
A released Iraqi POW has come forward and stated to the internationl media that that he was sodomized at the Abu Ghraib prison while a female US soldier cheered and the entire incident filmed.
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the top 2 seem to be the staged ones used to discredit the other ones.

cheney/rockefeller have raped, tortured, and killed over 1,000,000 innocent women and children in iraq.

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« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2008, 12:29:45 am »
We all know rape, murder, mayhem and chaos ensue WHEREVER war is perpetrated. Always has, always will.

These pics are ENRAGING the Arab world right now, even though they are faked....as in...the men may very well be raping the women, but it is NOT U.S. soldiers and Iraqi women.

Some folks on here squeal quite loudly about 'divide and conquer', yet do not seem to see it where it really matters.

Maybe that might the case here, but I honestly thought they were the real deal. This is one thing I did not read more into, reason is I felt shock and horror at the pictures.

I thought I was helping alerting of the dire situation there..Don't matter Rape is RAPE and it is wrong regardless of it real or staged for effect.. It is no laughing matter.
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« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2008, 12:39:04 am »
Faked or not faked, these disgusting pictures are serving to enrage the Iraqi people to cause them to rise up against their oppressors. This is what the bush regime wants as an excuse to commit more genocide. But then again they don't really an excuse as there is video of troops shooting them just for shits and giggles.
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« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2008, 12:41:14 am »
Wow. You found them at THIS site;

http://www.aztlan.net/

I am stucking FUNNED...
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« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2008, 12:46:07 am »
fake or no fake , those pictures made me sick.

Kregener i would love that link if possible . i see were your going with this and it could very well be that way. But seriously i wouldn't be surprised at all if they are real.

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« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2008, 12:52:48 am »
fake or no fake , those pictures made me sick.

Kregener i would love that link if possible . i see were your going with this and it could very well be that way. But seriously i wouldn't be surprised at all if they are real.

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Kregener which direction would you like this thread to go ??


Did you not read my earlier remark ??


I expressed a few things there.. Did you not take them on board ?


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« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2008, 12:54:48 am »
http://www.inminds.co.uk/noor1.jpg


Regardless go to this that Sane posted and many other places to see and hear their stories. It is a valid charge. Pictures or not.
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« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2008, 12:58:44 am »
Its fake and the only way I know is because no soldier get's sent over there in woodland camo which is what they are wearing. This was someone's idea of a joke.

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« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2008, 12:59:39 am »
Wow. You found them at THIS site;

http://www.aztlan.net/

I am stucking FUNNED...

All I did was do a photo search and thats what came up. ???

I asked Suz if they was the same photos from her original post and she said they was. Just was helping her replace the missing ones.
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« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2008, 01:00:08 am »
Its fake and the only way I know is because no soldier get's sent over there in woodland camo which is what they are wearing. This was someone's idea of a joke.

Alan Greenspan??????
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« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2008, 01:04:08 am »
Its fake and the only way I know is because no soldier get's sent over there in woodland camo which is what they are wearing. This was someone's idea of a joke.

Ziggy,

We are not supposed to have pictures in our signatures, something to do with bandwidth issues, you might want to keep yours simple :)

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« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2008, 01:05:01 am »
http://www.inminds.co.uk/noor1.jpg


Regardless go to this that Sane posted and many other places to see and hear their stories. It is a valid charge. Pictures or not.

yeah i just finished it . its just sad man and it pisses me off. this shit has got to end.
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Re: RAPE IN IRAQ - Discretion Advised GRAPHIC IMAGES, ( I am sorry )..
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2008, 01:05:36 am »
Ziggy, what does greenspan have to do with this? ???
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Re: RAPE IN IRAQ - Discretion Advised GRAPHIC IMAGES, ( I am sorry )..
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2008, 01:13:00 am »
Which way? How about the truth.

I am in no way disputing that rape occurs in Iraq, but this story with these pics is P-R-O-P-A-G-A-N-D-A.

Now ask yourself: Who benefits from Arab agitation, more conflict, extended stay, dropped munitions, fired missles, eroded APC's and tanks, helicopters, fighter jets and all the toys of war?

Who benefits from continuing the bankruptcy of America?

Who benefits?

Oh, and I believe the Greenspan pic is just part of Ziggy's sig line...
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Re: RAPE IN IRAQ - Discretion Advised GRAPHIC IMAGES, ( I am sorry )..
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2008, 01:30:30 am »
Which way? How about the truth.

I am in no way disputing that rape occurs in Iraq, but this story with these pics is P-R-O-P-A-G-A-N-D-A.

Now ask yourself: Who benefits from Arab agitation, more conflict, extended stay, dropped munitions, fired missles, eroded APC's and tanks, helicopters, fighter jets and all the toys of war?

Who benefits from continuing the bankruptcy of America?

Who benefits?

Oh, and I believe the Greenspan pic is just part of Ziggy's sig line...

I understand, but did you not read what I said ?
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Re: RAPE IN IRAQ - Discretion Advised GRAPHIC IMAGES, ( I am sorry )..
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2008, 01:34:39 am »
All I did was do a photo search and thats what came up. ???

I asked Suz if they was the same photos from her original post and she said they was. Just was helping her replace the missing ones.

My point exactly......isn't Aztlan that Mexican nationalist group?  The ones who say that the American Southwest belongs to Mexico and should be given back?  ???

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Re: RAPE IN IRAQ - Discretion Advised GRAPHIC IMAGES, ( I am sorry )..
« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2008, 01:38:48 am »
Greenspan has nothing to with this, he just rapes bank accounts not people. Its a pic in my signature. I'll take it down for the bandwith.

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Re: RAPE IN IRAQ - Discretion Advised GRAPHIC IMAGES, ( I am sorry )..
« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2008, 01:41:53 am »
My point exactly......isn't Aztlan that Mexican nationalist group?  The ones who say that the American Southwest belongs to Mexico and should be given back?  ???

Are you thinking of La Raza?

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Re: RAPE IN IRAQ - Discretion Advised GRAPHIC IMAGES, ( I am sorry )..
« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2008, 01:44:29 am »
Right, I had this post originated via a myspace bulletin.

And has I posted it, the pictures were lost due to them being deleted at photobucket, which I did say I share no responsibilty of.


I mentioned it to Route and we came up with another article with the same pictures..

Confusion ended ok??
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Re: RAPE IN IRAQ - Discretion Advised GRAPHIC IMAGES, ( I am sorry )..
« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2008, 01:47:00 am »
Those photos are staged and come from the Hungarian "Sex in War" site.

This story FIRST ran as British soldiers raping Iraqi women.

 You found that pretty fast. Makes me wonder if you visit that site very often.

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Re: RAPE IN IRAQ - Discretion Advised GRAPHIC IMAGES, ( I am sorry )..
« Reply #33 on: March 28, 2008, 01:52:17 am »
I have decided to lock this topic up as it is leading into a nitpicking exercise on sources ect.

This by no means means I have "chickened out " it means the nitpicking on the sources has to cease.My reason is that I had thought about highlighting this issue. I have taken all comments on board.

I mean please do not shoot the messenger here, I was merely hoping to get some debate going but infact it turned into a nitpicking deal on the sources ect which led this thread in a different directional..

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