Illegal to carry cash in US

[Jenkins]

Apparently you are not allowed to carry cash in this country, or at least not a lot at once. The cops used to tell you to not to walk around in public with a lot of cash on you in case you get robbed. Well, now the cops just go ahead and do the job themselves, you know, to protect and serve.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/5081398.html

ACLU sues DEA on behalf of truck whose money was seized

© 2007 The Associated Press

 ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. — A trucker has sued the Drug Enforcement Administration, seeking to get back nearly $24,000 seized by DEA agents earlier this month at a weigh station on U.S. 54 in New Mexico north of El Paso, Texas.

Anastasio Prieto of El Paso gave a state police officer at the weigh station permission to search the truck to see if it contained "needles or cash in excess of $10,000," according to the American Civil Liberties Union, which filed the federal lawsuit Thursday.

Prieto told the officer he didn't have any needles but did have $23,700.

Officers took the money and turned it over to the DEA. DEA agents photographed and fingerprinted Prieto over his objections, then released him without charging him with anything.

Border Patrol agents searched his truck with drug-sniffing dogs, but found no evidence of illegal substances, the ACLU said.

The lawsuit alleges the defendants violated Prieto's right to be free of unlawful search and seizure by taking his money without probable cause and by fingerprinting and photographing him.

"Mere possession of approximately $23,700 does not establish probable cause for a search or seizure," the lawsuit said.

It said Prieto pulled into the weigh station about 10:30 a.m. Aug. 8 and was let go about 4 p.m.

DEA agents told Prieto he would receive a notice of federal proceedings to permanently forfeit the money within 30 days and that to get it back, he'd have to prove it was his and did not come from illegal drug sales.

They told him the process probably would take a year, the ACLU said.

The ACLU's New Mexico executive director, Peter Simonson, said Prieto needs his money now to pay bills and maintain his truck. The lawsuit said Prieto does not like banks and customarily carries his savings as cash.

"The government took Mr. Prieto's money as surely as if he had been robbed on a street corner at night," Simonson said. "In fact, being robbed might have been better. At least then the police would have treated him as the victim of a crime instead of as a perpetrator."

The DEA did not immediately respond Friday to a request for comment from The Associated Press.

Peter Olson, a spokesman for the Department of Public Safety, which oversees state police, said he could not comment on pending litigation.

The lawsuit names DEA Administrator Karen P. Tandy, DEA task force officer Gary T. Apodaca, DEA agent Joseph Montoya and three state police officers identified only as John or Jane Doe.

[Southern Takeover]

WOW.. just wow, I'm stunned in disbelief. This is INSANE how much can we take of this!!

[Sees Things]

"new" cash has the anti counterfeitting thread in them you can see when held to the light telling the denomination, it is also irradiated. large sums of cash in one place give off a radioactive signature that can be detected from satellites.
-all this high tech hassle for fiat currency that is becoming more worthless by the day, makes sense to me ...  NOT!!

[wilson]

This theft by gov goons has been going on for a long time. Ever since the rico act was originally passed to "fight" organized crime and the "money laundering" and "wire fraud" laws were passed, gov goons realized this could be used to enrich themselves and act as a terrorizing and control measure.

So they use it for exactly that.

[Biggs]

It is amazing just how shocking the 'little' stories can be, I mean come on that's sooooo bad, you cannot just rob someone for no damned reason and make them wait a year to get it back.

WOW, I am amazed at just how awful it is, so now you get punished for not wanting your money in banks, many of whom could be close to collapse.

Wow, bad bad bad.

[zlater]

made this post earlier..

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=1237.msg4879#msg4879

always have prefered cash instead of plastic, especially credit cards.
making carrying it illegal must be another "cremation of care" agenda just to make life harder for honest people. if the danger is getting robbed by criminals or the police themselves then isn't the person himself to blame and not the law or regulation for carrying it. someone who wishes to carry thousands for a car payment or whatever should be allowed to do so.

[Critical Thinker]

Stoop'it probable cause.

[wilson]

for me using the words, "should be allowed to do something" means sheeple thinking. The brainwashing in this country is very effective.

[zlater]

sorry.. i'm not in your country and don't speak english as a native language. but you are right. should be allowed is sheeply and it should had said "damn well does so" instead.

[Phantom]

I'm trying to decide, which is worse, LOCAL Cops, in YOUR town, talkign about stealing dead VETERANS' guns, and calling them nutjobs, or stealing 25 grand from someone...

[wilson]

It isn't just cash. The "law" reads monetary or negotiable instruments.  So a checkbook, money orders, bank drafts, bonds, credit cards, gold coins, and whatever else the thieving parasites claim.

If you have any combination of this over 10,000usd it is reportable either leaving or entering the homeland, citizen.  Plus they can steal it if you're just traveling inside the country.

 

[Strife]

it used to be that any cash transaction at or above $10,000.00 had to be reported to the IRS, but people quickly did an end-run by just making it 9950 or 9500, so even though the law is $10,000.00, banks and other financial institutions will report any transaction over $5,000.00.

Don't try paying for a car with cash at a dealership, I've seen stories of people that do that get tossed in jail for suspicion of dealing drugs, because there's just no possible way someone could get a car and not be indebted to the system. 

[Gabriel A King]

"What's in your wallet?"

  No BS.  I was watching CNN about 10 months ago, and they actually announced a probable cashless society in or around 2013!!!  Currently, it is considered illegal to carry more than $1,000 cash on person.  We'll, I think that's a bunch of BS.  And if we go cashless, I will call treason on the NWO's bluff and empty clips into whoever enforces this treason, as all good LAW ABIDING CITIZENS ARE REQUIRED TO DO UNDER THE CONSTITUTION.

  You remember, that piece of old paper with laws n' stuff on it?

"What's in your wallet?"

[wilson]

it used to be that any cash transaction at or above $10,000.00 had to be reported to the IRS, but people quickly did an end-run by just making it 9950 or 9500, so even though the law is $10,000.00, banks and other financial institutions will report any transaction over $5,000.00.

Don't try paying for a car with cash at a dealership, I've seen stories of people that do that get tossed in jail for suspicion of dealing drugs, because there's just no possible way someone could get a car and not be indebted to the system. 

Trying to avoid the "currency reporting requirements" by using amounts less than 10000usd is a crime in itself called "structuring" Just about everything you can think of is a crime. That is why those people who say, "why should I worry, I'm not doing anything wrong" are so clueless.  They have no idea until it happens to them.

If you get crossways with the criminal parasitic government they can and do add  on charges that are not crimes at all but nevertheless carry heavy penalties.  Which of course means that they can then plea bargain and get a conviction even if a person is completely innocent.

No surprise to anyone, at least on this board, but they want to control every single facet of life.  And, boy, are they ever succeeding.

 

[Gabriel A King]

  The art of war.  Pretend to comply, and put  "bananas in their tailpipes".  Don't run, fight.  Eventually, it's the only viable option.  And the Contstitution mandates it in eventuality of internal treason.

[Volitzer]

I know my dad got $24,000 back in a loan from a friend and everyone at the credit union acted like he was a drug dealer even tho he had been banking there for years.

[jcakamindless]

i hope i don't get stopped one of these days...

i only carry cash, i hate credit cards/debit cards...