How Many People Are Awake?

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Offline Freeski

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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #40 on: March 25, 2008, 08:25:58 PM »
The numbers that I have always hear usually go like this:

87% the profane masses who will always do what is expected of them from the top

3% at the top who are the rulers

7% enforcers for the rulers

3% people who are awake and know whats going on and will hopefully try to stop or deflect the rulers plans

Your numbers are demoralizing... but possibly correct. Are they your own estimate/gut feel?
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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #41 on: March 25, 2008, 08:29:11 PM »
That's a good point BUT lots of people complain about this or that, or agree that politicians are dishonest, or distrust certain industries/companies but those same people can't or refuse to see the bigger picture, or how it's systematic, wouldn't you agree? They outright refuse to accept the idea that there just might be some method to the madness. I mean, how could you keep such a conspiracy quiet all this time? You can't, and we're just begging people to open thier eyes and minds.

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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #42 on: March 25, 2008, 08:31:20 PM »
My father has changed his tune a bit in the last year, as he's seen how convinced I am about what's going on around the world.

You hit a nerve with this because my own father is one of the few family members that I can sometimes have a good chat with - about this stuff - but he's an old guy and I wonder if I'm actually doing him any good, you know, rather than just letting him be happy. The truth is a pretty big burden.
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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #43 on: March 25, 2008, 08:36:03 PM »
Freeski, I assure you that I didn't make up that 15% thing. However, I understand your need for skepticism and believe it to be as healthy a thing as is possible. I will search for where I found that fact and try and post it here.

That would be appreciated. For the record, I don't distrust your number at all... there's really very little available in terms of stats but this thread is already helping me see a bigger picture and that's exactly what I'm after. Any and all info is wanted!
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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #44 on: March 25, 2008, 08:37:22 PM »
I would say it WAS about 1 in 100 in America, until Bush got....'elected".

Now it is a whopping 3 in 100....
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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #45 on: March 25, 2008, 08:40:22 PM »
I would say it WAS about 1 in 100 in America, until Bush got....'elected".

Now it is a whopping 3 in 100....

So we tripled our numbers... thanks to W. Woo hoo! Let's elect Hitlary and triple them yet again.
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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #46 on: March 25, 2008, 08:41:32 PM »
Yanaar: nice post (if only I knew you tears ago)

Years of feeling lonely, are you branded a conspiracy nut? Feeling ostracised?
Have you blamed Alex Jones for ruining your life? Well fear not this darkness is only the early dawn of a new awakening.
Our weapons are evolving now at an exponential rate.
I work with the general public usually in couples usually in 1to2hour sessions so the opportunity I have to strike up a conversation about how crap the world is, is quite easy.
 
I’m suddenly finding people not only eager for, but positive about such DVD’s as
‘Terrorstorm’
‘Loose Change’
‘Freedom to Fascism’

Because I got them to watch ‘Zeitgeist’ and/or ‘Esoteric Agenda’ first!

‘Money and Debt’ and ‘What the bleep do we (k)now’ are also excellent weapons to use as ‘first shots’ especially if your dealing with a smart arse academic.
I relish handing out ‘Terrorstorm, Loose Change’ ect, now days!
And like a crazy fundamental christian with his thumb hovering over the big red button I always save
‘Endgame’ for last.

And then I watch them go about their lives just the same, except for the deep furrow in their forehead.  ;D

It’s quite depressing when I think about it; I bet I haven’t woken a dozen people in 5 years! But 6 of them were in 2007!

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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #47 on: March 25, 2008, 08:42:35 PM »
You hit a nerve with this because my own father is one of the few family members that I can sometimes have a good chat with - about this stuff - but he's an old guy and I wonder if I'm actually doing him any good, you know, rather than just letting him be happy. The truth is a pretty big burden.

It is.  :(  It's difficult enough for me at times, but for an old man like my father especially.  I used to be more gracious than I am now, but it's out of concern that I do the things I do now.  I can see my father wanting to see our family do well.  He sees what is going on in the world, and for us, and on one hand he'd like to believe that the world he grew up will continue on forever, but he sees how I've been right on so many issues that he is starting to take stock in what I say.

It's a GREAT responsibility for me, and I hope that I'll be able to protect my family in the future from the worst of things.  Better to know what's going on and be able to make informed decisions than live ignorant and happy, imo.  I believe my father is beginning to see this too.

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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #48 on: March 25, 2008, 09:03:53 PM »
Our weapons are evolving now at an exponential rate.

Man I hope you're right. Maybe the U.S. will see exponentiality at work with an 80% Ron Paul write-in come November. God, one can hope.
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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #49 on: March 25, 2008, 09:07:08 PM »
Better to know what's going on and be able to make informed decisions than live ignorant and happy, imo.  I believe my father is beginning to see this too.
That's my position too. We leave the blame for any unpleasantness to the scum who are actually responsible.
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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #50 on: March 25, 2008, 09:14:33 PM »
A lot fewer than we think. We'd like to think that we're awake, but there could be many things that we're wrong about. There all also things that those who are "awake" can't agree on, such as religion. So who's to say who's awake and who isn't? I'd say about 25% of those who think they are awake truly are...

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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #51 on: March 25, 2008, 09:25:45 PM »
A lot fewer than we think. We'd like to think that we're awake, but there could be many things that we're wrong about. There all also things that those who are "awake" can't agree on, such as religion. So who's to say who's awake and who isn't? I'd say about 25% of those who think they are awake truly are...

Great point, and an example is RedPills' earlier comment that "Many people think they are awake, but you are not truly enlightened until you recognize the Zionist Jewish criminal conspiracy", to which another mentioned you have to go back even further in history to truly understand.

It also reminds me of those who "get the fact that something ain't right", but then propose some government solution to solve it - like affordable housing or health care for all.

Hey, sometimes I wonder if my hero Ron Paul isn't just a tool for global socialism, considering his international appeal. Hell, maybe he's the Antichrist. (Sorry Ron, just sayin' there's so much BS and propaganda that anything is possible).
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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #52 on: March 25, 2008, 09:28:04 PM »
A lot fewer than we think. We'd like to think that we're awake, but there could be many things that we're wrong about. There all also things that those who are "awake" can't agree on, such as religion. So who's to say who's awake and who isn't? I'd say about 25% of those who think they are awake truly are...


so true, that ignorance alone makes me think that the message wont get out. it is seriously retarding the process. overparticular on this forum, there is a strong colonialism sentiment, im not sure if its a religious affliction but there is a strong presence of a union jack + a crucifix.....

yea there is a CSA alert....
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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #53 on: March 25, 2008, 09:50:20 PM »

yea there is a CSA alert....

thats what Alex was talking about on the show today. those three sides ripping the movement apart for globalism...
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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #54 on: March 25, 2008, 10:10:32 PM »
Well Daniel Estulin's book, "The True Story of The Bilderberg Group", is an international best seller, END GAME is #10 on Google Video's "Most Viewed" list, I think one of the things that the NWO is doing, thats successful is, making us THINK that were a small minority, though Television, specifically Cable-News, even though there are a lot of people that watch these "top rated" shows (myself included), doesn't mean they all buy into the garbage, in fact just look at Bill O'reilly, he's got one of the most top rated shows, but half his audience are people who hate him, they just tune in to see what propaganda he'll spew out next....

I agree. I listen to Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity at work about everyday. I mostly listen to hear what the enemy is saying and get a good laugh from the brainwashed callers. I'm sure I'm not the only one who does this. The people that are awake are prolly pushing their ratings up.  :D
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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #55 on: March 25, 2008, 10:21:32 PM »
ROFLMAO! Too Funny! ;D ;D ;D ::) ::)

I dont think redpils1 is "enlightened" fully but it comes in stages. Dont get stuck with the Zionism/Jewish stuff, its older than that.
yea but its also newer too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Identity

i hope this helps some confused questions...
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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #56 on: March 25, 2008, 11:38:57 PM »
ROFLMAO! Too Funny! ;D ;D ;D ::) ::)

I dont think redpils1 is "enlightened" fully but it comes in stages. Dont get stuck with the Zionism/Jewish stuff, its older than that.

Jews have been conspiring since before the biblical era but that is irrelevant.  We are talking about what is going on now and Zionists run the show.  You have been misled, my friend.  Do you want join the fight or talk about ancient history?

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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #57 on: March 26, 2008, 12:50:47 AM »
I've woken up two of my friends and my brother. My mom has woken to Bush's evil but still thinks the democrats are good. Also I distribute dvd's so who knows how many others have woken through dvds.
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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #58 on: March 26, 2008, 01:08:03 AM »
Jews have been conspiring since before the biblical era but that is irrelevant.  We are talking about what is going on now and Zionists run the show.  You have been misled, my friend.  Do you want join the fight or talk about ancient history?

This game was running before Judaism.

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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #59 on: March 26, 2008, 01:45:59 AM »
This game was running before Judaism.

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I will repeat...Do you want join the fight or talk about ancient history?

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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #60 on: March 26, 2008, 01:51:59 AM »
this is 3 sided, 1 fights 2 and 3 fights amongst themselves.
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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #61 on: March 26, 2008, 08:41:48 AM »
another thing i do is burn off all the aj radio shows and give them to
work mates that are on the border sleep and wake...
and there are so many issues on
the show you can give certain ones to certain
people whatever you think they
should here at that time of there awaking..
but i have to say i leave Alan watts shows till last
cause he is full on and goes into all details and history...
crazy stuff all together

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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #62 on: March 26, 2008, 02:14:28 PM »
Many people think they are awake, but you are not truly enlightened until you recognize the Zionist Jewish criminal conspiracy.   Several good intentioned people seeking the truth have been misled by leaders in the so-called "truth movement."  These leaders will give a lot of truth but when it come times to place the blame on the Zionist criminals, they steer you in the wrong direction.

Bush is mostly German, and is related to the Queen of England (I know Bush isn't exactly at the top of the latter) is he secretly Jewish?

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« Reply #63 on: March 26, 2008, 11:56:06 PM »
Bush is mostly German, and is related to the Queen of England (I know Bush isn't exactly at the top of the latter) is he secretly Jewish?

No, he's a Christian Zionist.  Israel and Mossad have many of the non-Jews bought off, blackmailed, or scared to speak out anyway.

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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #64 on: March 28, 2008, 04:05:08 AM »
Here in Australia I'd estimate only 5% get the big picture. That would equal about one million people.

Brocke, that number can't be right. There are nowhere near a million alert people in Australia. Most of us don't care about American politics, and many believe that America will 'get what it deserves' for letting its' soul die.

There might be close to a million that are frustrated at the world's way, but far less who fit the original criteria; most people still think that it truly matters whether we have a Labor or Liberal government, and will never look behind that.
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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #65 on: March 28, 2008, 05:17:01 AM »
Brocke, that number can't be right. There are nowhere near a million alert people in Australia. Most of us don't care about American politics, and many believe that America will 'get what it deserves' for letting its' soul die.

There might be close to a million that are frustrated at the world's way, but far less who fit the original criteria; most people still think that it truly matters whether we have a Labor or Liberal government, and will never look behind that.

Yeah, you are probably correct. I was being an optimist. How about  I shift the decimal point 0.5%. Unfortunately this is most likely closer to the reality of it.

By the way, have you been watching Shaun Micallef's Newstopia on Wednesday nights? It's the only show on TV worth watching.

You can watch this weeks episode here: http://programs.sbs.com.au/newstopia/

Shaun must be awake...at least only catnapping. The Dali Lama interview is hilarious!!!


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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #66 on: March 28, 2008, 09:55:57 AM »
No, he's a Christian Zionist.  Israel and Mossad have many of the non-Jews bought off, blackmailed, or scared to speak out anyway.

Well, I don't think any particular ethnic group of people are doing this - is seems pretty well spread across all types of people. I'm sure there are some arabs in on this as well - heck, Bin Laden might be one that's suspect along with the whole Saudi Royal Family as well.

I certainly wouldn't call Bush a Christian. He may claim to be - but I can claim to be a big purple dinosaur that breathes acid while singing children's songs too.. :)

I suspect Bush is more of a pagan or satan worshipper. Regardless of your religious beliefs - I have a strong feeling those are his. Soon enough, we'll all be 'compelled' to follow his religion under guise, I'm sure anyway.

Funny thing too - I was watching a Ghost Hunters the other day - they were at some church in Europe - dang, I forget which.. But apparently it was well known the the elites of the time had orgies, sacrifice and all that jazz in there - like the Bohemian Grove of old.

Don't fall for the 'it's the jews' trick - that's been pulled before.....

I'm sure there are SOME Jews in the Mix, Some Germans, Some British, Some French, Some Chinese, Some Russians... think it's more an issue of what 'caste' you are in, than what nationality you are.

I'll follow up and see if I can find some info on that Church... you may find it very interesting.
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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #67 on: March 28, 2008, 10:03:58 AM »
Here's info..


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellfire_Club

It's called the 'Hellfire Club'
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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #68 on: March 28, 2008, 10:11:09 AM »
I'm here. A little groggy, but awake. The thing I fear the most about our numbers is that there is a whole lot of sheep between us and our real enemies. Obviously, the thing to do is to keep trying to stir them from their induced comas, but when the battle escalates beyond the infowar there will be a lot of "good intentioned" neighbors and FEMA trained Pastors getting in the way.
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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #69 on: March 30, 2008, 06:23:38 AM »
Yeah, you are probably correct. I was being an optimist. How about  I shift the decimal point 0.5%. Unfortunately this is most likely closer to the reality of it.

By the way, have you been watching Shaun Micallef's Newstopia on Wednesday nights? It's the only show on TV worth watching.

You can watch this weeks episode here: http://programs.sbs.com.au/newstopia/

Shaun must be awake...at least only catnapping. The Dali Lama interview is hilarious!!!

Thanks Brocke, I'll have a look into it; and unfortunately haven't been watching just yet.

Received an e-mail from an Australian truther today... Talking 'bout networking, etc.

Sounds promising. Hopefully soon there will be a few more sparks of awareness.
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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #70 on: March 30, 2008, 06:31:52 AM »
The thing I fear the most about our numbers is that there is a whole lot of sheep between us and our real enemies.
I second that. There are so many dead-souls, sometimes, I understand how the elite justify their contempt for human life. It also amazes me, the Christian idea, that God could actually stand humanity (or love it) enough to save it. Why would you? But the theology's a side issue.

The sheep are so amazingly retarded, I literally would call them dead-souls, and they will be a major problem unless we can set off a spark and build a fire of passion and truth under their butt's, thus bringing them to life again;

but first we have to convince them that whether Britney wears panties or not is not the be-all end-all of their existence... And for so many, they are so pathetic, it truly is...
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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #71 on: March 30, 2008, 07:43:10 AM »
85%+ is under TV induced pavlovian mind conditioning.   :'(

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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #72 on: April 01, 2008, 09:28:58 PM »
The sheep are so amazingly retarded...
I don't think it's that they're stupid (or retarded); it's just that they don't actually look at anything with a critical eye, and so the question is: why they don't?

For one, they're just not interested - they don't perceive the need to look any further than the 6:00 news. Secondly, they are literally brainwashed by propaganda - which is a direct result of the first (and other factors). And thirdly, they don't have the time... or so they think, because they sleep for 8 hours, work another 8, travel to and from work for another 2, eat, bathe and poop for another 2 leaving 4 hours to clean the house, take the kids to hockey, do their taxes AND watch the tube.

Then you have to ask yourself: so why do we find the time?
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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #73 on: April 02, 2008, 01:48:45 AM »
Bathing less?

Good thoughtd though... I meant 'retarded' in the 'opposed to seeing' sense as opposed to being 'mentally retarded' but sometimes the ones I meet really are a few pennies short of the pound...
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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #74 on: April 02, 2008, 02:24:17 AM »
A theory on who's awake:

1. Think of how many people you know and actually talk to (not communicate w/ via cyberspace) on a regular basis about deep issues in a given year.

2. Say that number is 30-40.

3. Take the # who are awake to the fact of the NWO & the agenda & divide by number from #2.

4. There's your personal % of awakeness.

5. Now find someone to produce and compile a survey of everyone at least on this list.

6. Duplicate the survey and compilation to acheive a better estimate.

My world estimate of those who are awake: 2 million

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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #75 on: April 02, 2008, 02:29:44 AM »
Shouldn't there be two questions:

Awake=awareness of nwo & agenda

FULLY AWAKE=preparing for what's to come, fighting against the system which holds us down

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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #76 on: April 02, 2008, 02:41:33 AM »
This is a great topic.  I have no idea.  I know many of my closest friends are not.  I think I would feel like a schizo if i tried sharing this with many members of my family.  It is difficult because our arguments go against the TV PROGRAMMING, Newspapers, and the water cooler chat that comes from viewing of MSM programming. 

The one thing we have going though is that it does not go against logic. 

The fact that none of us in this forum would agree on most things or believes in different G-ds or has different views just shows that this question cannot be answered.  Awake to what?  the New World Order?

This might be a little off topic but I am sure controlling the world cannot be easy.  Have you ever thought that maybe the powers that be are doing the best they can?  Be thankful for what you have it could be worse kind of thing?

Or my favorite question of all but

Have you ever asked yourself. . . if the world was going to end would you want to be there to see it?

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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #77 on: April 02, 2008, 02:44:28 AM »
Do you guys think mind altering substances help to make people awake?

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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #78 on: April 02, 2008, 03:06:21 AM »
Do you guys think mind altering substances help to make people awake?

Good question. I have wondered about DMT and Ayahuasca, but it's hard to tell. It's definite that marijuana dose not wake people up. If it did 50% of the population would be awake.

I think it's better to wake up naturally, of your own free will and with your facilities functioning without any "help".


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Re: How Many People Are Awake?
« Reply #79 on: April 02, 2008, 12:32:51 PM »
Think magic mushrooms have the affect