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« Reply #40 on: March 21, 2008, 08:42:33 PM »

Again I say the whole first section fo the first film are sourced from NWO Freemason Wicca authors!

I'm not familiar with that. Could you name the authors you speak of?
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« Reply #41 on: March 21, 2008, 08:49:02 PM »

I think Amish means Atheism is a religion as in it's a faith based system.

yea but hes got the time confused as hell. he trys to make them out to be pope nazis, they are acutely just regular zionist ones, meanwhile forgoing the fact that not many religions claim atheism except for judaism.

basically hes saying the dinosaurs came after us....
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« Reply #42 on: March 21, 2008, 08:58:38 PM »

I think Amish means Atheism is a religion as in it's a faith based system.

Many self-described "atheists" such as myself only use the word as a means of description, as in English it means "absence in belief of deities, or a rejection of theism." That's all it really means to me. I don't see how it could be "faith-based", though some people treat it as if it were their religion.

I guess I would say I am "impious", though many people don't know what that means.
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« Reply #43 on: March 21, 2008, 08:59:59 PM »

I'm not familiar with that. Could you name the authors you speak of?

You can find a list of Peter's sources here:

http://zeitgeistmovie.com/sources.htm

EDIT: Notice that his sources for Part 1 are all NWO propaganda and Jesus-bashing, just like the movie Zeitgeist.
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« Reply #44 on: March 21, 2008, 09:03:43 PM »

You can find a list of Peter's sources here:

http://zeitgeistmovie.com/sources.htm

What proof do you have that those authors are wiccans, freemasons, or NWO?
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« Reply #45 on: March 21, 2008, 09:09:00 PM »

What proof do you have that those authors are wiccans, freemasons, or NWO?

I think you've got me cornfused with kermitthefrayer. I was just listing Peter's sources. You want to know more about the authors, you should look into it yourself. I gave you the information to get you started.
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« Reply #46 on: March 21, 2008, 09:24:29 PM »

The first lie the alleged "Producer" of Zeitgeist claimed was that the earth is 100 million years old, which he needs to discredit the Holy Bible. What he did not say was that evolution is just a theory, a theory in dispute.

In fact scientific evidence supports the biblical account of Creation, not evolution.

I want to believe in Jesus H. Christ like the next person does, Im not an atheist but science has already proven the earth to be far older then the bible lets on thanks to carbon dating. Im not even an evolutionist per se, although its a lot more plausible than some dude creating the earth in 7 days. I can even believe aliens propagating the earth with their seeds more than I can someone creating an entire planet with living breathing creatures, an atmosphere, etc all in 7 days.
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« Reply #47 on: March 21, 2008, 09:43:26 PM »

I think those who embrace religion should take it as allegories and metaphors and spiritual teachings instead of dogmas. That's why we've got so many problems in this world because people literally believe they're going to hell or heaven or somewhere where they'll get 30 virgins or something.

As for the movie Zeitgeist: It seems to me that most of the criticism comes from hurt christians. Now of course if it's sources are questionable it should be questioned. I wish someone would do a real objective research and investigation about it. - I've seen that "Zeitgeist Refuted" video but i didn't come to the conclusion really that it's proving me anything. It seemed rather a video done by biased christians.
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« Reply #48 on: March 21, 2008, 09:44:57 PM »

The earth could very well be a 100 million years old.
The bible does not say how long a day of "creation" was. It does speak of a "day as a thousand years" later and at times a day is a literal day, but not in the description of the creation itself .

I see the possibility of not confining the account of creation to rigidly held ideas not fully understood at this point. With that said I also understand that the basic message of the scriptures was to culminate with the spiritual perfection of humanity. That part requires "faith".

Atheists have a valid point considering the dinosaurs etc. This cannot be denied. But if you look past the accepted belief that God's day was a literal one, that may then lead people of the book to explore this with a fresh perspective and who knows, maybe some atheists too? Peace.

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« Reply #49 on: March 21, 2008, 09:45:25 PM »

I think those who embrace religion should take it as allegories and metaphors and spiritual teachings instead of dogmas. That's why we've got so many problems in this world because people literally believe they're going to hell or heaven or somewhere where they'll get 30 virgins or something.

As for the movie Zeitgeist: It seems to me that most of the criticism comes from hurt christians. Now of course if it's sources are questionable it should be questioned. I wish someone would do a real objective research and investigation about it. - I've seen that "Zeitgeist Refuted" video but i didn't come to the conclusion really that it's proving me anything. It seemed rather a video done by biased christians.


Agreed 100%.

As for Zeitgeist, if the sources are refuted by reputable sources then I'll gladly consider it. "AnsweringInfidels" isn't something that strikes me as "unbiased" or rational...
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« Reply #50 on: March 21, 2008, 09:47:40 PM »

Here is a review of Zeitgeist from a Christian perspective:

http://www.consider.org/News/2007/12.html

...and you can get lost in this maze of Zeitgeist critiques and refutations:

http://www.preventingtruthdecay.org/zeitgeistpartone.shtml
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« Reply #51 on: March 21, 2008, 09:52:46 PM »

It seems to me that a lot of people don't understand that there is a difference between a religion and an organized religion. A religion is a spiritual belief in certain principals. An organized religion is a spiritual belief in certain principals controlled by an adminastrative body. it's the administrative body that introduces politics and corruption to the religion. This perverts the religion and makes it an enemy to good people such as those on this forum. I think many people take the evils of organized religion and appy them to religion as a whole. I think this is a mistake. It's Just like saying that the communist governemnt of china is the same as the chinese people.
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« Reply #52 on: March 21, 2008, 10:25:02 PM »

I loved the first movie, and look forward to seeing the second.

I loved how they compared the bible to a book of astrology if those similarities between religions are true then it certainly makes sense. 

I am a biologist.  I have a degree in Molecular Cellular Developmental Biology and I love learning and understanding what is going on in the world around me.  I have viewed organized religion as means of controlling humans for sometime.  Zeitgeist added coal to that fire.

It is not a surprise to me that these religions all have so much in common.  I mean c'mon its Easter this weekend and all you see is Pagan symbols of fertility.  I live in a cold part of the world and looked forward to Christmas this year because it symbolized that the days would finally be getting longer.  I celebrated that fact and called it Christmas. 

It was very compelling to see how the 3 kings folllow Sirius at Christmas.  I thought the first part of the movie was great.  I hope that doesn't make me a devil or something I just thought it was well done that they identified these similarities that existed before the birth of Christ. 

But the certainly the best part of the film was how they identified those who have abused their power of Usury. 
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« Reply #53 on: March 21, 2008, 11:12:53 PM »

I am a biologist.  I have a degree in Molecular Cellular Developmental Biology and I love learning and understanding what is going on in the world around me.

I'm curious. You're obviously swayed a certain way already, but what is your professional opinion of this film?

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« Reply #54 on: March 21, 2008, 11:28:33 PM »

What proof do you have that those authors are wiccans, freemasons, or NWO?



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7572663630528394775
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« Reply #55 on: March 21, 2008, 11:31:24 PM »

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9207351371478132272&q=jordan+maxwell+is+nwo&total=643&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Massey


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http://www.churchward.com/cw/albertc/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Marco_Allegro

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« Reply #60 on: March 22, 2008, 01:28:16 AM »

You know, I just listened to the trailer and I have to say this... These guys are good, really good. Think about it, they control both sides of the equasion, the media, and much of what the people who are fed up with the media will see. Digg's compromised, Google is compromised, MySpace, Facebook, etc.

Those who create a problem offer the solution as well. They control the two oppositions at once. Blaming suffering on religion, how does that make sense since not all religions espouse the same philosophies?

Here are a few philosophical examples with which one can take issue within the Qu'ran.

Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2

Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 4:89

If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant. 4:91

Fight disbelievers who are near you, and let them see the harshness in you. 9:123

However one can not possibly take issue with any position within the bible because it doesn't promote murder, violence or hate towards others. Christians are told to LOVE THEIR ENEMIES, and Thou Shalt Not Kill, turn the cheek, do not covet, do not lie, do not steal, do not commit adultery, treat others as you want them to treat you(the golden rule). So how can anyone serioustly take issue with these philosophies? Could you imagine if the entire world lived by these?

I heard in the trailer it mentions evolution, talk about spreading lies which promote hateful competitive philosophies. Survival of the fittest? If you believe in evolution you know that the weak according to it should be weeded out, so why aren't you cheering on the eugenicists? Because you know it's wrong, you know it's false! Out of nothing cannot come everything, life cannot come up from non life, we've never seen a star form but we see tons blow up. The world is getting worse, not better, this should be evident to everyone, testimony to the fact that evolution is FALSE and a dangerous lie.
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« Reply #61 on: March 22, 2008, 01:46:47 AM »

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« Reply #62 on: March 22, 2008, 02:02:19 AM »

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I watched the videos you posted and enjoyed them, but I'm not sure what the purpose of you posting domain/website info is. Maybe I missed something, but what is the point you're trying to make?
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« Reply #63 on: March 22, 2008, 02:39:45 AM »

Stop spamming the thread please religious nuts.
Thanks.

Zeitgeist is only 1/3 about religion. A reasonable person would then want only 1/3rd of this thread to be talking about religion. But instead you've trolled it all to hell.

The other parts are about exposing the NWO for all to see including the fiduciary systems they use to enslave us.
It is without a doubt the best media for exposing the NWO, their slavery, treason and identities. It has awakened thousands of people with a crystal clear picture of the enemy and I'm sure Rothschilds and Rockefellers alike are taking aim at it's creators.

You don't like part1 because you've bought into listening to other men for your beliefs and you want to be the bottom of that religious organization. That's fine. But you're suspect and you've got to realize you make no sense and are doing nothing but trolling.

Now I'm not going to tell you to shut up god forbid, but there are plenty of other threads around talking about religion for you to do your paladin trolling.

So, SHooo. Begone pests!
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« Reply #64 on: March 22, 2008, 02:58:43 AM »

BTW, all of these "OMFG I DEBUNKED ZEITGEISTZ0RZ" websites you keep linking are pathetic attempts by really biased people to rip something apart just because they don't agree with it and for no other reason.

Instead of the linking the "super fundamentalist nut's debunking of zeitgeist Kill all infidels" why don't you link the "impartial thoughtful and evidence filled scholarly discussion of zeitgeist" which by definition discusses all three parts of the film with the same level of detail and attention.

 It would make much more sense to those of us who are in fact impartial.
You can link the fanatic material to each other, I'm sure it will be well appreciated.

Yes, if your angry debunking of zeitgeist goes over only part1 and ignores the rest of the movie chances are you're a bit too biased and need to let someone else do a review.

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« Reply #65 on: March 22, 2008, 04:38:02 AM »

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« Reply #66 on: March 22, 2008, 05:17:30 AM »

"super fundamentalist nut's debunking of zeitgeist Kill all infidels"

yes, impartial indeed...because the only sources that we may consider credible are those that we agree with...

you do know that the first third is based largely on the "work" of Acharya S, right? and since you are impartial, you must also know that if anyone is a nut, it's her. perhaps you'd like to read about her getting schooled by a "super fundamentalist nut"?

http://www.risen-jesus.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=22

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« Reply #67 on: March 22, 2008, 06:59:12 AM »

Obviously, Woodrow Wilson was dismembered by Seth, who started the Federal Reserve, who got George Carlin to do 9/11.

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« Reply #68 on: March 22, 2008, 08:48:00 AM »

Obviously none of  you trolls bothered to watch the videos I posted. Nor does any one find it odd that one of the hosts of the Zeigiest web sites is all about international internet reformation but maybe that's just me.

The whole first section is and always will be sourced from Freemason Wicca NWO mystery religion writers.

With that said how this not a problem reaction solution divide and conquer piece tell me please.

How if you actually watched the videos I link can you sit here and tell me things like


"Stop spamming the thread please religious nuts."

I never once stated my view of GOD.  You are only assuming that since the debunking of and truth I post about your beloved COINTELPRO piece is coming from Christian sources.

"Zeitgeist is only 1/3 about religion. A reasonable person would then want only 1/3rd of this thread to be talking about religion. But instead you've trolled it all to hell"

I don't troll thanks!  What you mean to say is it's a RED HEARING some claims at the begging stuffed with truth and then more lies at the end.


"The other parts are about exposing the NWO for all to see including the fiduciary systems they use to enslave us.

And what solution do they offer?  2012???

"It is without a doubt the best media for exposing the NWO, their slavery, treason and identities. It has awakened thousands of people with a crystal clear picture of the enemy and I'm sure Rothschilds and Rockefellers alike are taking aim at it's creators.

It also puts Christians automatically in with the sheepeople and any one else who doesn't subscribe to the throughly debunked Astrothelogy or Egyptology mystery religions.  Also are we just going to ignore much better produced material like ENDGAME and TERRORSTORM???


"You don't like part1 because you've bought into listening to other men for your beliefs and you want to be the bottom of that religious organization. That's fine. But you're suspect and you've got to realize you make no sense and are doing nothing but trolling.

You are the one who is trolling and again assuming you know anything about my beliefs or upbringing.  I was brought up with out any god or religion so stop assuming you know who or what I am.


"Now I'm not going to tell you to shut up god forbid, but there are plenty of other threads around talking about religion for you to do your paladin trolling.

HAHA why don't you stop trolling and stop telling people what to so and believe when what you believe in has no basis or bearing on reality.



I post this Albert Pike quote again I hopes that some of you will see it's relevance to this whole thread. 

"We shall unleash the Nihilists and Atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effects of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will be from that moment without compass, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view, a manifestation which will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

Illustrious Albert Pike 33°
Letter 15 August 1871
Addressed to Grand Master Guiseppie Mazzini 33°
Archives British Museum
London, England


"BTW, all of these "OMFG I DEBUNKED ZEITGEISTZ0RZ" websites you keep linking are pathetic attempts by really biased people to rip something apart just because they don't agree with it and for no other reason."   

You mean don't agree with because it has been throughly debunked by both Christian and Non Christian scholars and historians and those seeking real truth actually research the claims other people make instead of just having blind faith in some movie on the web?

"Instead of the linking the "super fundamentalist nut's debunking of zeitgeist Kill all infidels" why don't you link the "impartial thoughtful and evidence filled scholarly discussion of zeitgeist" which by definition discusses all three parts of the film with the same level of detail and attention.

You again obviously didn't watch either of the videos I posted or do any of your own research about the authors sited in the first section of Ziegiest.

"It would make much more sense to those of us who are in fact impartial.
You can link the fanatic material to each other, I'm sure it will be well appreciated.


So you mean all of the non Christian historians sited in Refuting Ziegeist.

"Yes, if your angry debunking of zeitgeist goes over only part1 and ignores the rest of the movie chances are you're a bit too biased and need to let someone else do a review.

You mean because a lot of the other sections are sourced from legitimate sources not Freemason Wicca NWO authors...


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« Reply #69 on: March 22, 2008, 08:50:27 AM »

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I watched the videos you posted and enjoyed them, but I'm not sure what the purpose of you posting domain/website info is. Maybe I missed something, but what is the point you're trying to make?

http://www.icann.org/general/agreements.htm#jpa

Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers

Transition Agreements

In its 5 June 1998 "Statement of Policy, Management of Internet Names and Addresses," 63 Fed. Reg. 31741(1998) (commonly known as the White Paper), the United States Government declared its willingness to recognize a new, not-for-profit corporation formed by private sector Internet stakeholders to administer policy for the Internet name and address system. The White Paper envisioned a transition process during which the not-for-profit corporation would enter various agreements to facilitate ending the United States Government's role in the Internet number and name address system in a manner that ensures the stability of the Internet. These agreements are as follows:

    * Memorandum of Understanding/Joint Project Agreement with U.S. Department of Commerce (sometimes known as the "Joint Project Agreement").
          o Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) Between ICANN and U.S. Department of Commerce (25 November 1998)
          o Amendment 1 to ICANN/DOC MOU (10 November 1999)
          o Amendment 2 to ICANN/DOC MOU (7 September 2000)
          o Amendment 3 to ICANN/DOC MOU (25 May 2001)
          o Amendment 4 to ICANN/DOC MOU (24 September 2001)
          o Amendment 5 to ICANN/DOC MOU (19 September 2002)
          o Amendment 6 to ICANN/DOC MOU (17 September 2003)
          o Modifications to JPA; Affirmation of Responsibilities for ICANN Private Sector Management [PDF, 220K] (29 September 2006)

      ICANN has submitted thirteen status reports to the Department of Commerce under this memorandum of understanding:
          o Status Report to the U.S. Department of Commerce (15 June 1999)
          o Second Status Report to the Department of Commerce (30 June 2000)
          o Third Status Report to the Department of Commerce (3 July 2001)
          o Fourth Status Report to the Department of Commerce (15 August 2002)
          o Fifth Status Report to the Department of Commerce (8 January 2003)
          o Sixth Status Report to the Department of Commerce (31 March 2003)
          o Seventh Status Report to the Department of Commerce (30 June 2003)
          o Eighth Status Report to the Department of Commerce (1 August 2003)
          o Ninth Status Report to the Department of Commerce (7 April 2004)
          o Tenth Status Report to the Department of Commerce (7 October 2004)
          o Eleventh Status Report to the Department of Commerce (7 April 2005)
          o Twelfth Status Report to the Department of Commerce (7 October 2005)
          o Thirteenth Status Report to the Department of Commerce (7 April 2006)
    * Agreement with the University of Southern California
          o Transition Agreement (December 1998).
    * IANA Function Contracts
          o ICANN/U.S. Government Contract for the IANA Function (9 February 2000).
                + Modification 0001 to ICANN/U.S. Government Contract for the IANA Function (6 September 2000).
          o ICANN/U.S. Government Contract for the IANA Function (21 March 2001).
          o ICANN/U.S. Government Contract for Performance of the IANA Function (17 March 2003)
                + Amendment/Modification to Extend the U.S./ICANN Contract for Performance of the IANA Function (2 September 2003)
                + Preliminary Notification of the Governments intent to Extend the Term of Contract No.: DG1335-03-SE-0336 (8 August 2003)
          o ICANN/U.S. Government Contract for Performance of the IANA Function (14 August 2006)
    * Root-Nameserver Agreements
          o Cooperative Research and Development Agreement (CRADA) with the United States Government.
                + Amendment 1 to CRADA (September 2000).
                + Amendment 2 to CRADA (28 September 2001).
                + Public Summary of Reports Provided Under CRADA (14 March 2003).
    * InterNIC Agreement®
          o License Agreement Concerning InterNIC® (8 January 2001).

Implementation Agreements

Policies adopted through the ICANN process are implemented by agreement of entities involved in the operation of the Internet. In some cases, this agreement occurs after the policy is adopted; in other cases the implementation is pre-arranged through written agreements. Some of those agreements are:

    * IETF/ICANN Memorandum of Understanding Concerning the Technical Work of the IANA (1 March 2000). Under this memorandum, the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) has appointed ICANN to perform a set of functions (known as the "IANA functions") involving assignment of protocol parameters used in IETF standards.
    * ICANN/IANA - IETF Memorandum of Understanding Supplement Agreement (effective 1 January 2007). This agreement supplements the 1 March 2000 IETF/ICANN Memorandum of Understanding concerning the Technical Work of the IANA.


http://www.icann.org/general/icann-mou-25nov98.htm

In the DNS Project, the parties will jointly design, develop, and test the mechanisms, methods, and procedures to carry out the following DNS management functions:

      a. Establishment of policy for and direction of the allocation of IP number blocks;

      b. Oversight of the operation of the authoritative root server system;

      c. Oversight of the policy for determining the circumstances under which new top level domains would be added to the root system;

      d. Coordination of the assignment of other Internet technical parameters as needed to maintain universal connectivity on the Internet; and

      e. Other activities necessary to coordinate the specified DNS management functions, as agreed by the Parties.
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« Reply #70 on: March 22, 2008, 08:52:46 AM »

Obviously, Woodrow Wilson was dismembered by Seth, who started the Federal Reserve, who got George Carlin to do 9/11.

Am I doing it right?


Tongue 

Made me laugh if that's what you are trying to do.

It all comes down to the fact that none of the stories they are referencing mention anything about virgin birth or resurrection until they were modified after 150 A.D.
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« Reply #71 on: March 22, 2008, 08:59:59 AM »

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1st Commandment: "Thou shalt have no other gods before me."

Very anti NWO, anti Pope

Not if they can convince the people that they are their god.

And they have been trying to do this for ages.

They're constructing mass hologram generators in South America so when the revolution comes, the people will worship them.  And you have to see these caribbean/south american catholics, they were born, bred, and raised on catholic vitriol, they'll believe anything their masters tell them.

Catholocism (Or the papacy) is what the Old Testament ascribes as אדום (Edom), as well as warns us of.  It is also refered to as עמלק (Amalek) or מלכות הרשע (The kingdom of wickedness).  The sages told us that we did not know then who exactly Edom a.k.a Amalek is, and I theorize that this is because the victor - be he good or evil - gets the power of writing the history.  But now that we are uncovering the lies, with modern archaeology, and the parasitic swine are being brought into the daylight, they are swashing forth this way and that, like a captured fish, to try and shed their true wicked nature.

ועלו מושיעים בהר ציון לשפוט את הר עשיו

And those of salvation shall ascend to the mountain of Zion to judge the mountain of Esau (Amalek, Edom, the kingdom of wickedness, a.k.a the vatican).

-Obadiah 1:21

We are the good people, those of salvation, and the time for us to judge and carry out the punishment against those that have sacrificed their sons and daughters to the demons (Psalms 106:37) has come.  The revolution will come, and when it does, make sure your family and yourselves are protected by a stash of weaponry.  When the criminals of the revolution come to your door, to rape your daughters, to kill your children, to take you to concentration camps, be ready for them.  Learn the lesson that my stubborn people (For they are a nation of hard backs (stubborn) Deuteronomy 9:13) refused to and fight them, fight them till the last man and don't let them take you alive.
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« Reply #72 on: March 22, 2008, 09:21:07 AM »

Some more from www.icann.org

http://www.icann.org/general/articles.htm


ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION
OF INTERNET CORPORATION FOR ASSIGNED NAMES AND NUMBERS

As Revised November 21, 1998

1. The name of this corporation is Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (the "Corporation").

2. The name of the Corporation's initial agent for service of process in the State of California, United States of America is C T Corporation System.

3. This Corporation is a nonprofit public benefit corporation and is not organized for the private gain of any person. It is organized under the California Nonprofit Public Benefit Corporation Law for charitable and public purposes. The Corporation is organized, and will be operated, exclusively for charitable, educational, and scientific purposes within the meaning of § 501 (c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, as amended (the "Code"), or the corresponding provision of any future United States tax code. Any reference in these Articles to the Code shall include the corresponding provisions of any further United States tax code. In furtherance of the foregoing purposes, and in recognition of the fact that the Internet is an international network of networks, owned by no single nation, individual or organization, the Corporation shall, except as limited by Article 5 hereof, pursue the charitable and public purposes of lessening the burdens of government and promoting the global public interest in the operational stability of the Internet by (i) coordinating the assignment of Internet technical parameters as needed to maintain universal connectivity on the Internet; (ii) performing and overseeing functions related to the coordination of the Internet Protocol ("IP") address space; (iii) performing and overseeing functions related to the coordination of the Internet domain name system ("DNS"), including the development of policies for determining the circumstances under which new top-level domains are added to the DNS root system; (iv) overseeing operation of the authoritative Internet DNS root server system; and (v) engaging in any other related lawful activity in furtherance of items (i) through (iv).

4. The Corporation shall operate for the benefit of the Internet community as a whole, carrying out its activities in conformity with relevant principles of international law and applicable international conventions and local law and, to the extent appropriate and consistent with these Articles and its Bylaws, through open and transparent processes that enable competition and open entry in Internet-related markets. To this effect, the Corporation shall cooperate as appropriate with relevant international organizations. 

Does that scare anyone else?

5. Notwithstanding any other provision (other than Article Cool of these Articles:

      a. The Corporation shall not carry on any other activities not permitted to be carried on (i) by a corporation exempt from United States income tax under § 501 (c)(3) of the Code or (ii) by a corporation, contributions to which are deductible under § 170 (c)(2) of the Code.

      b. No substantial part of the activities of the Corporation shall be the carrying on of propaganda, or otherwise attempting to influence legislation, and the Corporation shall be empowered to make the election under § 501 (h) of the Code.

      c. The Corporation shall not participate in, or intervene in (including the publishing or distribution of statements) any political campaign on behalf of or in opposition to any candidate for public office.

      d. No part of the net earnings of the Corporation shall inure to the benefit of or be distributable to its members, directors, trustees, officers, or other private persons, except that the Corporation shall be authorized and empowered to pay reasonable compensation for services rendered and to make payments and distributions in furtherance of the purposes set forth in Article 3 hereof.

      e. In no event shall the Corporation be controlled directly or indirectly by one or more "disqualified persons" (as defined in § 4946 of the Code) other than foundation managers and other than one or more organizations described in paragraph (1) or (2) of § 509 (a) of the Code.

6. To the full extent permitted by the California Nonprofit Public Benefit Corporation Law or any other applicable laws presently or hereafter in effect, no director of the Corporation shall be personally liable to the Corporation or its members, should the Corporation elect to have members in the future, for or with respect to any acts or omissions in the performance of his or her duties as a director of the Corporation. Any repeal or modification of this Article 6 shall not adversely affect any right or protection of a director of the Corporation existing immediately prior to such repeal or modification.

7. Upon the dissolution of the Corporation, the Corporation's assets shall be distributed for one or more of the exempt purposes set forth in Article 3 hereof and, if possible, to a § 501 (c)(3) organization organized and operated exclusively to lessen the burdens of government and promote the global public interest in the operational stability of the Internet, or shall be distributed to a governmental entity for such purposes, or for such other charitable and public purposes that lessen the burdens of government by providing for the operational stability of the Internet. Any assets not so disposed of shall be disposed of by a court of competent jurisdiction of the county in which the principal office of the Corporation is then located, exclusively for such purposes or to such organization or organizations, as such court shall determine, that are organized and operated exclusively for such purposes, unless no such corporation exists, and in such case any assets not disposed of shall be distributed to a § 501(c)(3) corporation chosen by such court.

8. Notwithstanding anything to the contrary in these Articles, if the Corporation determines that it will not be treated as a corporation exempt from federal income tax under § 501(c)(3) of the Code, all references herein to § 501(c)(3) of the Code shall be deemed to refer to § 501(c)(6) of the Code and Article 5(a)(ii), (b), (c) and (e) shall be deemed not to be a part of these Articles.

9. These Articles may be amended by the affirmative vote of at least two-thirds of the directors of the Corporation. When the Corporation has members, any such amendment must be ratified by a two-thirds (2/3) majority of the members voting on any proposed amendment.
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« Reply #73 on: March 22, 2008, 09:28:26 AM »

ICANN has developed a Strategic Plan for the period July 2008 – June 2011 through an extensive consultation process with the community. This document is part of ICANN’s annual planning cycle and sets out priorities for the next three years. The plan was approved by the ICANN Board in December 2007.

http://www.icann.org/strategic-plan/strategic-plan-2008-2011.pdf

ICANN Strategic Plan July 2008-June 2011
Page 3 of 28
ICANN's Mission
Since its creation, the Internet community has
vigorously discussed and reviewed the mission
and values that guide ICANN's actions. This
extensive, inclusive and bottom up discussion
has been encapsulated in ICANN's Bylaws, its
Mission and Core Values.
The limited and distinct mission of ICANN is
clearly set out in Article I of its Bylaws.
The mission of The Internet Corporation for
Assigned Names and Numbers ("ICANN") is
to coordinate, at the overall level, the global
Internet's systems of unique identifiers, and in
particular to ensure the stable and secure
operation of the Internet's unique identifier
systems. In particular, ICANN:
1. Coordinates the allocation and
assignment of the three sets of unique
identifiers for the Internet, which are:
a. Domain names (forming a
system referred to as "DNS");
b. Internet protocol ("IP")
addresses and autonomous
system ("AS") numbers; and
c. Protocol port and parameter
numbers.
2. Coordinates the operation and
evolution of the DNS root name
server system.
3. Coordinates policy development
reasonably and appropriately related
to these technical functions.
ICANN is an international, non-profit, multistakeholder
organisation. It has become the
globally authoritative body on the technical
and organisational means to ensure the
stability and interoperability of the DNS, the
continued equitable distribution of IP
addresses, and accurate recording of protocol
parameters.
ICANN's Core Values
ICANN's Bylaws detail ICANN's core values as
part of its Mission. In performing its mission, the
following core values should guide the decisions
and actions of ICANN:
1
Preserving and enhancing the operational
stability, reliability, security, and global
interoperability of the Internet.
2
Respecting the creativity, innovation, and
flow of information made possible by the
Internet by limiting ICANN's activities to
those matters within ICANN's mission
requiring or significantly benefiting from
global coordination.
3
To the extent feasible and appropriate,
delegating coordination functions to or
recognising the policy role of other
responsible entities that reflect the interests
of affected parties.
4
Seeking and supporting broad, informed
participation reflecting the functional,
geographic, and cultural diversity of the
Internet at all levels of policy development
and decision-making.
5
Where feasible and appropriate, depending
on market mechanisms to promote and
sustain a competitive environment.
6
Introducing and promoting competition in
the registration of domain names where
practicable and beneficial in the public
interest.
7
Employing open and transparent policy
development mechanisms that (i) promote
well-informed decisions based on expert
advice, and (ii) ensure that those entities
most affected can assist in the policy
development process.
8
Making decisions by applying documented
policies neutrally and objectively, with
integrity and fairness.
9
Acting with a speed that is responsive to the
needs of the Internet while, as part of the
decision-making process, obtaining
informed input from those entities most
affected.
10
Remaining accountable to the Internet
community through mechanisms that
enhance ICANN's effectiveness.
11
While remaining rooted in the private
sector, recognising that governments and
public authorities are responsible for public
policy and duly taking into account
governments' or public authorities'
recommendations.

ICANN Strategic Plan July 2008-June 2011
Page 5 of 28
At the end of the life of this plan, ICANN will be a global organization that has
completed all the requirements set out in the Joint Project Agreement with the United
States Department of Commerce for transition to full private sector management. It
will be well regarded by its stakeholders and peer organizations and will be
recognized as a best practice organization in terms of accountability and transparency.
ICANN will be financially secure with sufficient reserves to ride out shocks and with
a diverse range of secure revenue sources.
These are ambitious goals, but important and achievable. We look forward to
working with the ICANN community and other stakeholders from the Internet
community to deliver these important outcomes for all Internet users.
Yours sincerely
Peter Dengate-Thrush Paul Twomey
Chairman President and
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« Reply #74 on: March 22, 2008, 09:41:13 AM »

Kermit - however much centcom is paying you - I'll double it.
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« Reply #75 on: March 22, 2008, 10:49:24 AM »


Tongue 

Made me laugh if that's what you are trying to do.

It all comes down to the fact that none of the stories they are referencing mention anything about virgin birth or resurrection until they were modified after 150 A.D.

Glad I made someone laugh with that post.

The bits about the Federal Reserve and 9/11 are almost spot-on accurate, though.
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« Reply #76 on: March 22, 2008, 11:31:46 AM »

Kermit please explain in your own words why you keep spamming the thread with posts about icann.

"The tasks of ICANN include managing the assignment of domain names and IP addresses."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icann

By the way, Icann is responsible for assigning every IP adress on the entire official DNS server network. Just so you know, any web page you host and this forum and every alex jones website and just about anything on the internet is registered with icann. It is the registry that tells you that prisonplanet.com should direct you do the x.x.x.x ip address so you can view it without having to remember a long chain of numbers and don't have to learn new numbers when they change.

If you don't like it, you can get together with others of like mind and run your own dns servers, that's the beauty of the internet.

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« Reply #77 on: March 22, 2008, 11:38:27 AM »

I guess if we all had the knowhow and the bandwidth we could set up our own version of the Internet.

I think we could just set up our own ad-hoc wireless networks, but it'd still be dependent on the original Internet for connectivity... I think.

Makes you really wonder how we could become our own ISPs, really...
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« Reply #78 on: March 22, 2008, 11:52:35 AM »

I believe the NWO's goal is to prompt people to reject their beliefs and accept them as the only authority. Of course, there are those of us who reject those beliefs and accept no authority  Smiley, and that's not what they want.

You hit the nail on the head. Did you notice how the RCC's main enemy is atheists? Here is George H.W. Bush talking about Atheists:

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Sherman: What will you do to win the votes of the Americans who are atheists?

Bush: I guess I'm pretty weak in the atheist community. Faith in God is important to me.

Sherman: Surely you recognize the equal citizenship and patriotism of Americans who are atheists?

Bush: No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God.

Sherman (somewhat taken aback): Do you support as a sound constitutional principle the separation of state and church?

Bush: Yes, I support the separation of church and state. I'm just not very high on atheists.

Do you Christians in here agree with NWO minion George H.W. Bush?
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« Reply #79 on: March 22, 2008, 12:20:15 PM »

enough already with this Zeitgeist bullshit, you think it's going to change one's belief in Christ? it won't...it's steering people away from the real issues at hand.....personally I go to church on Sundays to pray to my God and try to lead a descent life, the day my priest orders me to to submit to the gov't will be the day I tell him off...if a movie came out insulting atheists I'm sure all the atheists would be up in arms, so don't be surprised when Christians are insulted by this movie...
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