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Is Jerusalem the real Capitol of Israel?
« on: December 06, 2017, 12:24:45 PM »
President Trump Gives a Statement on Jerusalem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIYjrQrieZY

Jerusalem 101: Why President Trump’s New Policy Is Such a Big Deal

http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2017/12/06/jerusalem-101-trumps-new-policy-big-deal/

http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/aboutisrael/state/pages/jerusalem%20-%20capital%20of%20israel.aspx



A Guide to the Dispute Over Jerusalem and Israel’s Capital
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-05/why-jerusalem-s-status-is-a-capital-controversy-quicktake-q-a


Awful. Pope Slams President Trump for Recognizing Jerusalem as Capital of Israel (Some think this Jesuit pope is illigitimate and nothing but a globalist minion. So he has no real authority.)
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/12/awful-pope-slams-president-trump-recognizing-jerusalem-capital-israel/

The war against Pope Francis
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/oct/27/the-war-against-pope-francis
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Re: Is Jerusalem the real Capitol of Israel?
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2017, 01:06:32 PM »
White House: Embassy Move to Jerusalem a ‘Recognition of Reality’

http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2017/12/06/white-house-embassy-move-jerusalem-recognition-reality/
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Re: Is Jerusalem the real Capitol of Israel?
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2017, 01:25:32 PM »


 First Crusaders entered Jerusalem with Peter the Hermit and Godfrey de Bouillon. 1099AD




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florine_of_Burgundy
Florine of Burgundy (1083–1097) was a French crusader. She was the daughter of Eudes I, Duke of Burgundy and Sybilla of Burgundy. Her maternal grandfather was William I, Count of Burgundy. Florine was married to Sweyn the Crusader, a son of Sweyn II of Denmark.


Together Florine and Sweyn led fifteen hundred horsemen to the First Crusade, and were surprised by the Turks whilst advancing rapidly across the plains of Cappadocia. Outnumbered, Sweyn defended himself during a whole day, without being able to repulse the Turks with all the efforts of his courage or the battle-axes of his warriors; Florine valiantly fought by his side. Pierced by seven arrows, but still fighting, she sought with Sweyn to open a passage towards the mountains, when they were overwhelmed by their enemies. They fell together on the field of battle, after having seen all their knights and most faithful servants perish around them.
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Re: Is Jerusalem the real Capitol of Israel?
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2017, 04:41:27 PM »
http://beta.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-israel-jerusalem-reaction-20171206-story.html

"He is declaring war in the Middle East -- he is declaring war against 1.5 billion Muslims," the Palestinians' senior representative in Britain, Manuel Hassassian, told BBC radio.
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Re: Is Jerusalem the real Capitol of Israel?
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2017, 12:39:54 AM »
Jerusalem is The Capital of the three monotheistic faiths on earth?

This site belongs to The GOD of The Bible. and thus the JEWS!

The Bible speaks much about this city and I think the world will be looking much closer now!

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Re: Is Jerusalem the real Capitol of Israel?
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2017, 04:31:15 AM »


It is my understanding that Jerusalem was a small settlement before King David and Solomon put it on the map and did a lot of building all over Judea.  Then, when it became known there was gold in the temple and a special Ark, Jerusalem was attacked.  The Muslims do what they do, and took over.  Then, the Crusades took place to take it back from the Muslims.  So, to me, it seems to have always belonged to Israel.  The Muslims don't even really appreciate the Dome of the Rock.  Barbaric excavations took place with a bulldozer there.  Truckloads were hauled off to the dump.  Fortunately, the trucks were followed and it is unbelievable the vast amount of artifacts retrieved from those dirt piles the trucks left behind.  The large column pieces and other large stonework they dug up were re-used for various things by the Muslims.

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Re: Is Jerusalem the real Capitol of Israel?
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2017, 04:40:18 AM »
http://beta.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-israel-jerusalem-reaction-20171206-story.html

"He is declaring war in the Middle East -- he is declaring war against 1.5 billion Muslims," the Palestinians' senior representative in Britain, Manuel Hassassian, told BBC radio.

Very interesting.  When I look at the map, Jerusalem is in Israel.  If the people of Israel consider it their capitol, oh well.  I don't see Israel blocking off access to pilgrims anywhere, and the city itself contains quarters.. Christian, Jewish, Muslim, etc.

And, when it comes to war with Muslims... it seems rape of innocent, defenseless women and children is their big thing.  When confronted with troops in Desert Storm they dropped their weapons and ran away.

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Re: Is Jerusalem the real Capitol of Israel?
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2017, 11:27:46 AM »
Jesus enthroned with apostles in heavenly Jerusalem mosaico di santa pudenziana c. 400 AD -


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(636%E2%80%93637)

The Siege of Jerusalem was part of a military conflict which took place in the year 637 between the Byzantine Empire and the Rashidun Caliphate. It began when the Rashidun army, under the command of Abu Ubaidah, besieged Jerusalem in November 636.

After six months, the Patriarch Sophronius agreed to surrender, on condition that he submit only to the Rashidun caliph. In April 637, Caliph Umar traveled to Jerusalem in person to receive the submission of the city. The Patriarch thus surrendered to him.

The Muslim conquest of the city solidified the Arab control over Palestine, control which would not again be threatened until the First Crusade in the late 11th century.
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Re: Is Jerusalem the real Capitol of Israel?
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2017, 11:51:12 AM »
So Let's just stir up this globalist hornets nest and let Trump take the blame?

https://pamelageller.com/2017/12/hamas-says-trump-opened-gates-hell-calls-day-rage.html/
Hamas says Trump has opened ‘the gates of hell’ and calls for ‘day of rage’
By Pamela Geller - on December 6, 2017

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“Trump’s decision on Jerusalem will not succeed in changing the fact that Jerusalem is an Arab Muslim land,” a spokesperson for the militant group running Gaza noted.

The group has also repeatedly called for a Palestinian “day of rage” on 8 December as well.
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Republican Senator Lindsey Graham immediately tweeted his support of the President’s decision, writing: “I fully support the Trump Administration’s decision to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel because this statement reflects the reality on the ground for the last 3,000 years.”
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Re: Is Jerusalem the real Capitol of Israel?
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2017, 02:31:07 PM »
 Let us cut the crap!

Jerusalem belongs to The Jewish Nation.

 I am glad that President Trump understand this plight in the Middle East!
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Re: Is Jerusalem the real Capitol of Israel?
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2017, 05:04:05 PM »
... interesting interview with
Retired Israeli Brig. Gen. Elihu Ben-Onn
who is now a radio talk show host in Jerusalem:


ISRAELI GENERAL: 'WE ARE NOT GOING TO LEAVE THIS AREA'
'Only solution is to go back to the negotiation table and find solutions for the conflicts'
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Ben-Onn says Israel’s claim on Jerusalem dates back millennia before the creation of the modern state of Israel shortly after World War II.

“I live in Jerusalem. I was born in Jerusalem, and all my family is in Jerusalem. Also, I know that King David was here 3,000 years ago. King David and the Jewish people were here for so many years, so many decades. It is clear to everyone that Jerusalem is the capital of the state of Israel and the Jewish people,” said Ben-Onn.

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“All Israelis believe that Jerusalem is our capital. The government is here. The parliament is here. All the embassies are in Tel Aviv but they go every day to Jerusalem. What kind of game is this? Maybe today this game and this hypocrisy will end,” said Ben-Onn.

He said there were embassies in Jerusalem decades ago. However, following the 1973 Yom Kippur War, in which Ben-Onn served, pressure from Arab states compelled those nations to move to Tel Aviv.

In his announcement, Trump also argued that recognizing Jerusalem as the Israeli capital is an important step in the peace process. Ben-Onn agrees.

“If you do not recognize my capital city, how can you sign a peace treaty with the state of Israel? Peace is like marriage. It’s like a wedding. The two sides have to recognize the rights of the other side for the right to exist,” said Ben-Onn.

“As long as the Palestinians and the Arabs before that didn’t recognize the state of Israel and the capital of Jerusalem, we couldn’t go forward. Now I believe President Trump opened a new direction for peace,” said Ben-Onn.

√ LISTEN HERE: http://www.wnd.com/2017/12/israeli-general-we-are-not-going-to-leave-this-area/
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Re: US Embassy to Jerusalem : Dr Paul Craig Roberts
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2017, 06:10:22 AM »
Re: US Embassy to Jerusalem : Dr Paul Craig Roberts

http://forum.globalgulag.com/index.php?topic=1754.0

Dr Paul Craig Roberts, on the Richie Allen Show.
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Re: Is Jerusalem the real Capitol of Israel?
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2017, 11:26:51 AM »
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5094570/jerusalem-riots-spread-to-indonesia-and-malaysia-as-terror-group-hamas-promises-day-of-rage-over-trump-over-embassy-move/
 Updated: 8th December 2017, 3:32 pm

Muslims in Indonesia and Malaysia joined rallies outside the countries’ US embassies with Malaysia’s sports minister Khairy Jamaluddin threatening “the world will rise against the United States”.
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4 / 15 Royal Malaysian Police stand guard in front of the country's US embassy during a rally
Image: EPA

5 / 15 Flags and pictures of Donald Trump are burnt during protests in IndonesiaImage: AP:Associated Press

Protests against Donald Trumps decision to recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel have spread to IndonesiaImage: Getty - Contributor

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Re: Is Jerusalem the real Capitol of Israel?
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2017, 11:52:05 AM »
Now see what else is new ? The (Muslim Bros) already and have been always been at war with ALL none muslim peoples and countries ... let's call them  Muslim Jesuits? hmmm 

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/12/08/muslim-brotherhood-vows-wage-war-u-s-trumps-jerusalem-decision/
Muslim Brotherhood Vows to ‘Wage War’ Against U.S. Due to Trump’s Jerusalem Decision
Edwin Mora
8 Dec 2017

The terrorist-linked Muslim Brotherhood (MB), echoing other jihadist groups, has pledged to “shed blood” and “wage war” against the United States after President Donald Trump officially recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and directed his government to move the American embassy to the city.

In an Arabic-language statement disseminated by the Ikhwanonline.info website, MB declares, “Jerusalem is an Islamic and Arab land, for which we shed blood, freedom, and life, and we wage war against every aggressor and every supporter of aggression.”
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supposedly ( 9/11? ) :

U.S. allies Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates (UAE), and Egypt have all banned MB as a terrorist organization.
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Re: Is Jerusalem the real Capitol of Israel?
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2017, 02:42:40 PM »
https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/works-of-art/67.178.3ab/


Incense Burner
Object Name: Incense burner
Date: 11th century
Geography: Attributed to Spain, Andalusia
Medium: Bronze; cast, chased, and pierced

Dimensions: H. 9 3/4 in. (24.8 cm)
W. 10 in. (25.4 cm)
D. 4 1/4 in. (10.8 cm)
Classification: Metal
Credit Line: Purchase, Joseph Pulitzer Bequest, 1967
Accession Number: 67.178.3a, b


]Long-handled, footed incense burners are known throughout the Islamic Near East, but the square body, high domed lid, and horseshoe arches on the low register of this example suggest Western, probably Spanish production. Incense played an important role in al- Andalus, as it did throughout the medieval world, and the international trade in aromatic substances was a lucrative one.
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Re: Is Jerusalem the real Capitol of Israel?
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2017, 02:53:54 PM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theobald_I_of_Navarre


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Las_Navas_de_Tolosa



The Battle of Las Navas de Tolosa, known in Arab history as the Battle of Al-Uqab (معركة العقاب), took place on 16 July 1212 and was an important turning point in the Reconquista and in the medieval history of Spain.[6] The Christian forces of King Alfonso VIII of Castile were joined by the armies of his rivals, Sancho VII of Navarre, Peter II of Aragon and Afonso II of Portugal, in battle[7] against the Berber Almohad Muslim rulers of the southern half of the Iberian Peninsula. The Caliph al-Nasir (Miramamolín in the Spanish chronicles) led the Almohad army, made up of people from the whole Almohad empire. Most of the men in the Almohad army came from the African side of the empire.


https://books.google.com/books?id=WlJuDQAAQBAJ&pg=PT329&lpg=PT329&dq=Theobald+I++Navarre+1212&source=bl&ots=KloqYFruAk&sig=RZQc2HbuI-9n5NnvnDp5sdKMUUE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiYurTOn_vXAhUSyYMKHTSvB5AQ6AEIVTAG#v=onepage&q=Theobald%20I%20%20Navarre%201212&f=false




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Re: Is Jerusalem the real Capitol of Israel?
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2017, 08:16:06 AM »
THE TRUTH ABOUT JERUSALEM - Islam is a religion of peace, any violence is Trump’s fault - Paul Joseph Watson (A MUST SEE!)
https://www.infowars.com/the-truth-about-jerusalem/

Red-Handed: Pelosi Trashes Trump for Over Jerusalem Move… That She Voted For in 1995
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/12/red-handed-pelosi-trashes-trump-jerusalem-move-voted-1995/


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Re: Is Jerusalem the real Capitol of Israel?
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2017, 12:37:02 PM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Montgisard
The Battle of Montgisard was fought between the Ayyubids and the Kingdom of Jerusalem on November 25, 1177. The 16-year-old King Baldwin IV, seriously afflicted by leprosy, led an out-numbered Christian force against the army of Saladin. The Arab force was routed and their casualties were massive, and only a fraction managed to flee to safety

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Re: Is Jerusalem the real Capitol of Israel?
« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2017, 08:32:38 AM »
Where is the Capitol of Palestine ?
Where is the Capitol of Christianity ?

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Re: Is Jerusalem the real Capitol of Israel?
« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2017, 06:53:24 PM »
HALEY on FOX: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-news-sunday-chris-wallace/videos#p/5369946651001/v/5674492174001

Nikki Haley Slams UN ‘Israel-Bashing Sessions’
In Defense Of Trump’s Jerusalem Decision

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Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley on Sunday gave a firm defense of President Donald Trump’s decision to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, lacing her remarks with strong words for the U.N.

In an appearance on “Fox News Sunday,” she said Trump’s decision was “the right thing to do” and promised to defend Israel from what she sees as unfair attacks by U.N. members.

“We’re not going to put up with it anymore,” Haley told host Chris Wallace.

Haley’s remarks echoed her previous criticisms of the U.N.’s stance toward Israel. During a special meeting of the U.N. security council on Friday, Haley ripped the other ambassadors in attendance for what she said was persistent anti-Israel bias.

“Over many years, the United Nations has outrageously been one of the world’s foremost centers of hostility towards Israel,” she said at the meeting. “The U.N. has done much more damage to the prospects for Middle East peace than to advance them.”

Asked by Wallace how those remarks were helpful in mediating the peace process, Haley said she was simply recognizing the “facts.”

“Ever since I got to the United Nations, there have been repeated attempts to hit Israel, for no reason whatsoever,” she said. “It’s Israel-basing sessions, constantly trying to find ways to picket them.”

“I want the Security Council and all of the international community to understand: When you bully Israel, you are not helping the peace process,” she added.


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Re: Is Jerusalem the real Capitol of Israel?
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2017, 08:59:35 AM »
Where is the Capitol of Christianity ?


To understand that capitol this verse in Hebrews 13:14 "For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come.", is a good place to start.


We as Christians are in the same boat as Abraham "For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God." - Hebrews 11:10

In Galatians 4 Paul tells us of another city contrasting that city to an earthly city:
"22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. 23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. 24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. 25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. 26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.

28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. 29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.

30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman."

Letting us know the earthly city is not ours or our reward & that is it bondage to be cast off.

In 2 Peter 3 the Apostle explains:
"13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness."

Jesus tells us of this place when He said "In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also" - John 14:2-3

Paul tells us again about this City in Hebrews 12:
"18 For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest, 19 And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more: 20 (For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart: 21 And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake:) 22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, 23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, ..."

Jesus confirms again this place "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name." - Revelation 3:12

Here in Revelation 21 we see the consummation of the city of God:
"1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. 6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. 7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son"

This is the Holy City. The very city of God.



But what of the earthly city, the city Paul tells us to cast off & equates to bondage?

I'd say begin by looking at the last clue regarding the great city, Babylon the great - the mother of all harlots, in Revelation 18:24
"And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth."

in her was found the blood of prophets

Then ask yourself what Jesus says about slain prophets?

Jesus said "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets.." - Matthew 23:37a

Jesus said "it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem. O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets" Luke 13:33b-34a

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Re: Is Jerusalem the real Capitol of Israel?
« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2017, 09:29:01 AM »
Jerusalem is now definitely capital of Republic of Israel. Hamas will get lot of volunteers in combat versus Isreali Army.  :'(

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Re: Is Jerusalem the real Capitol of Israel?
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2017, 10:33:48 AM »
Is Jerusalem the real Capitol of Israel?

Being a deist, I honestly don't care either way. For me, "America first" is more than just a campaign slogan.

That said, I can't resist pointing out this simple fact: a "Christian Zionist" is a contradiction in terms.

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Re: Is Jerusalem the real Capitol of Israel?
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2017, 12:10:03 PM »
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Re: Is Jerusalem the real Capitol of Israel?
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2017, 12:35:46 PM »
Where is the Capitol of Palestine ?
Where is the Capitol of Christianity ?

It is possible to share you know . . . .
Answer form my point of view:

The Capital of Palestine is in the Art of Fear...which can be anywhere...

The Capital of Christianity is in a Persons Heart...which can be anywhere...

...many folks have their own view!

...but in the end: the Heart: beats Fear, all the time..!
"When the Truth was murdered:
Common Sense ran away..."

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Re: Is Jerusalem the real Capitol of Israel?
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2017, 04:50:52 PM »
http://hebrewnations.com/articles/tribes/north3.html
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http://www.britam.org/Proof/Attributes/roleHebrew.html#Jacob

The Ten Tribes in the End Times are referred to in connection with the raising up the Tribes of Jacob:

    Isaiah 49:
    5 And now the Lord says,
       who formed me in the womb to be his servant,
    to bring Jacob back to him,
       and that Israel might be gathered to him,
    for I am honoured in the sight of the Lord,
       and my God has become my strength,
    6 he says,
    'It is too light a thing that you should be my servant
       to raise up the tribes of Jacob
       and to restore the survivors of Israel;
    I will give you as a light to the nations,
       that my salvation may reach to the end of the earth.'

Scandinavia, Ireland, and Britain are at the End of the Earth. This is where we find the Tribes of Asher, Dan, and Naphtali.
The name jacob is also associated with Britain whose flag is called the UNION JACK i.e. union or covenant of Jacob.
So too, the nickname Yank or YANKEE for North American derives from a form of the name Jacob.

The Tribes of Asher, Dan, and Naphtali formed a triune amongst the 12 Tribes.
We found them re-located to the north and west of the Land of Israel,
cf,

"BEHOLD, THESE SHALL COME FROM FAR: AND, LO, THESE FROM THE NORTH AND FROM THE WEST; AND THESE FROM THE LAND OF SINIM (i.e. Australia and New Zealand) [Isaiah 49:12].

What we found concerning the group of Three Tribes: Asher, Dan, and Naphtali, parallels what pertains to the rest of the Tribes, as we shall show.
Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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Re: Is Jerusalem the real Capitol of Israel?
« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2017, 10:52:40 AM »
AMAZING! President Trump to Countries Who Vote Against US on Jerusalem — Fine, We’ll Cut Your Aid

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/12/amazing-president-trump-countries-vote-us-jerusalem-fine-well-cut-aid/

UN Votes to ‘Nullify’ Trump’s Jerusalem Decision, Then Nikki Haley Shows Them Who's Boss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxC6rTEXP40


US vetos ‘insulting’ UN vote over status of Jerusalem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL-Jf1pciok
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Re: Is Jerusalem the real Capitol of Israel?
« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2017, 02:33:59 PM »
 I honestly don`t care, we can traverse history until the end of time, wars, revolutions, invasions have been ongoing for a millennium for control of Jerusalem.
 It matters a hell of a lot more to Muslims & Jewish, BUT if a solution to the ongoing religious tribal warfare is on the plate, I`m all for it.
 It is cautious to remember the movement to the creation of the Protestant religion was actually a war.

 Beginning as a religious conflict between Protestants and Catholics in the Holy Roman Empire, it gradually developed into a general war involving much of Europe, for reasons not necessarily related to religion.
 WIKI
History, no offense to Catholics, the history of this church is POWER, the past slaughter was in numbers unbelievable, the methods of torture were sadistic. In short, the church was a government with armed forces.
 Fanatical Muslims extremists are being exposed to their sadism, cutting off heads, drowning,etc., look back and realize the extent some religious leaders use their power over the people.
  Again, if this brings peace to the people, GOOD.
 
 

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Re: Is Jerusalem the real Capitol of Israel?
« Reply #29 on: December 22, 2017, 07:40:10 PM »
^^^

... the problem is the muslims/arabs are not interested
in a 'solution' other than getting all Jews and Christians
out of the middle East, destroying all their history ...
all as a preamble to a new invasion of all other 'Western'
lands ... this has always been their intention ... they
are the 'antithesis' to the Judeo -Christianity 'thesis' but
they are NOT INTERESTED in a 'synthesis' ... only
to conquer and destroy, which is the nature of islam.


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Hegel’s Thesis-Antithesis-Synthesis Model


"A dialectic method of historical and philosophical progress that postulates (1) a beginning proposition called a thesis, (2) a negation of that thesis called the antithesis, and (3) a synthesis whereby the two conflicting ideas are reconciled to form a new proposition. Although this method is commonly referred to as the Hegelian dialectic, Hegel actually attributed the terminology to Immanuel Kant."

https://link.springer.com/referenceworkentry/10.1007%2F978-1-4020-8265-8_200183
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Let it loose; it will defend itself."

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Re: Is Jerusalem the real Capitol of Israel?
« Reply #30 on: December 23, 2017, 09:51:21 AM »
^^^

... the problem is the muslims/arabs are not interested
in a 'solution' other than getting all Jews and Christians
out of the middle East, destroying all their history ...
all as a preamble to a new invasion of all other 'Western'
lands ... this has always been their intention ... they
are the 'antithesis' to the Judeo -Christianity 'thesis' but
they are NOT INTERESTED in a 'synthesis' ... only
to conquer and destroy, which is the nature of islam.


~~~~~~~~~

Hegel’s Thesis-Antithesis-Synthesis Model


"A dialectic method of historical and philosophical progress that postulates (1) a beginning proposition called a thesis, (2) a negation of that thesis called the antithesis, and (3) a synthesis whereby the two conflicting ideas are reconciled to form a new proposition. Although this method is commonly referred to as the Hegelian dialectic, Hegel actually attributed the terminology to Immanuel Kant."

https://link.springer.com/referenceworkentry/10.1007%2F978-1-4020-8265-8_200183

... as I was saying:

Hundreds of Muslims Storm ‘Unlicensed Church’,
Smashing Contents and Assaulting Christians

REITBART LONDON - 23 Dec 2017

CAIRO (AP) — Hundreds of Muslim demonstrators assaulted an unlicensed church south of Cairo, an Egyptian Coptic Christian diocese said on Saturday, in the latest assault on members of the country’s Coptic minority.


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The incident took place after Friday prayers when demonstrators gathered outside the building and stormed it. The demonstrators chanted hostile slogans and called for the church’s demolition, the diocese in Atfih said. The demonstrators destroyed the church’s contents and assaulted Christians inside before security personnel arrived and dispersed them.

The wounded were transferred to a nearby hospital but didn’t elaborate.

The church in Giza just outside of Cairo is yet to be sanctioned by the state but has been observing prayers for 15 years. The diocese said it had officially sought to legalize the building’s status under a 2016 law that laid down the rules for building churches.

Local authorities often refuse to give building permits for new churches, fearing protests by Muslim conservatives. That has prompted Christians to illegally build churches or set up churches in other buildings. In contrast, building a mosque results in few restrictions.

Christians constitute 10 percent of Egypt’s mostly Muslim population.
Sectarian violence occasionally erupts, mainly in rural communities in the south.


Egypt’s Christian minority has often been targeted by Islamic militants in a series of attacks since December 2016 that left more than 100 dead and scores wounded. The country has been under a state of emergency since April after suicide bombings struck two Coptic Christian churches on Palm Sunday in an attack that was claimed by the Egyptian affiliate the Islamic State group.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/12/23/hundreds-muslims-storm-unlicensed-church-smashing-contents-assaulting-christians/
St. Augustine: “The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it.
Let it loose; it will defend itself."