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« Reply #81 on: November 07, 2017, 02:42:21 PM »
Texas shooter yelled, ‘Everybody die, motherf–ker!’

http://nypost.com/2017/11/07/texas-shooter-yelled-everybody-die-motherf-ker/

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“There was nowhere to go,” she told ABC News. “I played dead, and I made sure that I hid myself good underneath that bench. I saw bodies with a lot of blood — that’s all I saw because I wasn’t about to get out from where I was hiding.”

“I shouldn’t have gone to church that day,” she remembers thinking as she huddled under the pew.

Kelley targeted anyone who made a peep, and had no qualms about shooting babies who couldn’t control their fear, her husband Joaquin Ramirez told the San Antonio Express-News.


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« Reply #82 on: November 07, 2017, 02:44:09 PM »
To make donations to help the families:

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« Reply #83 on: November 07, 2017, 02:44:41 PM »
Meet Stephen Willeford – The Hero Who Engaged Texas Church Shooter (Riveting Testimonial)…Posted on November 7, 2017 by sundance

Stephen Willeford is the man who shot and chased the Texas gunman who killed 26 people in a Texas Baptist church on Sunday.   Mr. Willeford shares the story of what took place during an interview with 40/29 News in Texas.

Mr. Willeford tells what happened in one of the most riveting accounts ever.  I have tried to set up the interview video in a sequence that outlines the story in his words.  These are MUST WATCH videos of the first hand account:

(Five videos embedded at the link)

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/11/07/meet-stephen-willeford-the-hero-who-engaged-texas-church-shooter-riveting-testimonial/
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« Reply #84 on: November 07, 2017, 02:49:50 PM »
A REAL HERO Stephen Willeford - Man who shot Texas church gunman shares his story

http://www.4029tv.com/article/man-who-shot-texas-church-gunman-shares-his-story/13437943


He tells exactly what happened. He had amazing courage. A real example to every American. He and Johnnie got there before the police and did their job to stop the killer. He felt bad he could not get there faster, but did not know what was happening. Understandable! He still was a good American stopping the bastard. He has nothing to be ashamed of. Trump should invite this guy to the White House.

Thank you, Stephen and Johnnie. You are both heroes and real Americans.
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« Reply #85 on: November 07, 2017, 03:00:15 PM »
 Christians are always targets from the maggots of this world.

Jesus gave us a warning and this is it:

Let them alone: they be blind and leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the same ditch.' Matthew 15:14

...Jesus Christ tells us that the Blind will KILL because they are blind to the TRUTH...and that leads them to kill in the name of their god? they all fall into the ditch!

Pointless from GODS point of view: as WE, HIS children; we will FIGHT Back...for our GOD: JESUS CHRIST!!!
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« Reply #86 on: November 07, 2017, 03:17:23 PM »
Quote from another website. Fits some of the initial reporting that 2 gunmen entered, announced a communist revolution, draped an Antifa flag over the pulpit, and demanded people read Das Kapital. The origin of this was here:

http://yournewswire.com/texas-church-shooter-antifa/

This has been debunked as fake news. However, this comment is intriguing:

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    Interesting.

    There was a passenger in the truck with the gunman in Texas. No mention of this anywhere.

    I watched an interview on CNN with the "cousin" of the man that shot the gunman and chased him down. He said after the truck ran off the road the first thing he did was get the passenger out and on the ground before going to the drivers side after the gunman. Of course, CNN acted like he never said it and skipped over that tidbit of info.

    I'm guessing it was the gunman's wife. But, I dunno.

    The guy said his cousin shot three shots, under fire, and hit the gunman three times. Nice bit of work there.
     

Cannot find the full interview. But did find a remnant of it.

Cousin of hero details how he shot gunman
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Ken Leonard, the cousin of the man who shot the Texas church shooter, details how his cousin shot and chased down the gunman.
Source: CNN

http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2017/11/06/cousin-of-man-who-shot-gunman-bts-nr.cnn
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« Reply #87 on: November 07, 2017, 03:41:50 PM »
SEE A TIMELINE OF TEXAS CHURCH SHOOTER'S HISTORY OF VIOLENCE

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5058153/Texas-church-shooting-survivor-recounts-horrifying-ordeal.html

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* June 7: Escapes from a mental hospital in Santa Theresa, New Mexico. He is caught by police officers just over the state line in El Paso, Texas, and is returned to the hospital. A witness told police that Kelley 'suffered from mental disorders' and 'was attempting to carry out death threats' against his military superiors. The witness also said that Kelley had already been caught sneaking firearms onto his Air Force base.

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/11/07/texas-church-killer-escaped-mental-hospital-2012-says-report/

Incident Report:

https://media.click2houston.com/document_dev/2017/11/07/Devin%20Kelley%20El%20Paso%20Police%20Incident%20Report_1510078336390_10955928_ver1.0.pdf


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« Reply #88 on: November 07, 2017, 03:48:44 PM »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5058153/Texas-church-shooting-survivor-recounts-horrifying-ordeal.html

What an American Hero Looks Like
https://www.infowars.com/shapiro-what-an-american-hero-looks-like/

The two heroes meet for first time after their heroic acts:




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« Reply #89 on: November 07, 2017, 07:21:04 PM »
AFTER TEXAS MASSACRE, PASTOR CALLS ON U.S. CHURCHES TO 'PROTECT FLOCKS' - 'This is the world we are living in, and so we have to respond to it'

http://www.wnd.com/2017/11/after-texas-massacre-pastor-calls-on-u-s-churches-to-protect-flocks/

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« Reply #90 on: November 07, 2017, 08:33:43 PM »
DEMS DEMAND GUN BAN ON DOMESTIC ABUSERS — LAW ALREADY EXISTS! - Members of Congress ignorant of current law

https://www.infowars.com/dems-demand-gun-ban-on-domestic-abusers-law-already-exists/



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« Reply #91 on: November 07, 2017, 10:34:45 PM »
I read a story that quoted a young woman in the church, she said there was shooting outside, then a pause, then Kelley appeared in the door dressed in black and wearing a black helmet.  She thought he was a cop.  The description of Kelley made me think of the video below.  Watched it a while back.  A former minister describes a conversation he once had.  The woman he talked to said she was involved with MK Ultra.  Devin Kelley makes me think of MK Ultra.

MK Ultra has been around for a long, long time.  They take young people, traumatize them so badly with torture that their minds split (a defense mechanism to preserve your sanity), and the new portion of your split mind is a blank slate.  It can be programmed to kill, work as a prostitute, whatever.  So, this program has been around for decades and has now churned out possibly millions of programmed slaves.  At about 5:00 into the video the man describes what the woman he spoke to told him about the purpose of this army of MK Ultra soldiers:

https://youtu.be/pE1ELa9f-eQ

She told him that someday, during a time of extreme chaos around the world, things will be so bad that police will just stay home.  And then the MK Ultra soldiers will be activated and they will become the new police.  In black uniforms, black SUVs, they will tell local populations that they are now in charge.  And this will be our global police force.  And the change will be so unexpected and so mind boggling that people won't know how to react.  The new order will be accepted.

The Texas shooter may have been a glimpse of the future.  I hope they release pictures of him in his full outfit so that people will know what the bad guys look like.

Also, MK Ultra grew out of experiments done by Nazi death camp doctors in WW2 Germany.  Many of those doctors were relocated to the US, Canada and S. America (Operation Paperclip in the US).  They continued the trauma-based mind control work they were doing in the death camps.  The purpose of that work was to create perfect German soldiers, fearless and skilled fighters.  Devin Kelley was incarcerated by the Air Force for a year, escaped, was captured and returned to whatever awaited him in the psycho ward, then he did a fierce job of work in the church.  Don't dismiss this kind of brainwashing, people.  When the black uniforms show up, think of Devin Kelley.

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« Reply #92 on: November 08, 2017, 08:08:30 AM »
With 27 dead, you'd think some of the 20+ wounded would have been heavily wounded, and would by now have succumbed to their injuries in the hospitals.  But the death toll is not rising.  Just like the Mandalay Bay massacre, once the death/wounded toll is announced, it does not move.  More evidence of fakery?

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« Reply #93 on: November 08, 2017, 08:54:47 AM »
I read a story that quoted a young woman in the church, she said there was shooting outside, then a pause, then Kelley appeared in the door dressed in black and wearing a black helmet.  She thought he was a cop.  The description of Kelley made me think of the video below.  Watched it a while back.  A former minister describes a conversation he once had.  The woman he talked to said she was involved with MK Ultra.  Devin Kelley makes me think of MK Ultra.

MK Ultra has been around for a long, long time.  They take young people, traumatize them so badly with torture that their minds split (a defense mechanism to preserve your sanity), and the new portion of your split mind is a blank slate.  It can be programmed to kill, work as a prostitute, whatever.  So, this program has been around for decades and has now churned out possibly millions of programmed slaves.  At about 5:00 into the video the man describes what the woman he spoke to told him about the purpose of this army of MK Ultra soldiers:


MKultra is very Real, for those who want to say this is fake. SCUMBAGS IN THE CIA DID THIS. There is much proof this indeed happened to innocent victims and until the sick punks in the CIA are dealt with you can bet it still happens. Here is the latest proof this indeed is true:
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=320371.0
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« Reply #94 on: November 08, 2017, 10:08:16 AM »

Synchronicity?

CBS' just aired show "NCIS: New Orleans." Season 4 Episode 7: "The Accident" is about service members implanted with brain chips who commit acts of murder when the chips are hacked into.

http://www.cbs.com/shows/ncis-new-orleans/video/hBJQIzuXZVsEFfryxTt6421Lo_91ZeiU/ncis-new-orleans-the-accident/


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« Reply #95 on: November 08, 2017, 11:21:32 AM »
Re the  animal cruelty incident in August 2014 in Colorado: 

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/classmates-paint-twisted-portrait-texas-shooter-article-1.3614825
"After a long standoff with police, Kelley was arrested. The case was later dismissed, and Kelley returned to Texas."

This guy got into a "long standoff" with police, and didn't appear to pay any penalty?  What if was an 'armed' standoff?  Hmmm.....

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« Reply #96 on: November 08, 2017, 02:40:16 PM »


The victims are:

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Texas-DPS-identifies-victims-of-Sutherland-12341566.php?ipid=brkbar
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Robert Scott Marshall, 56
Karen Sue Marshall, 56
Keith Allen Braden, 62
Tara E. McNulty, 33
Annabelle Renae Pomeroy, 14
Peggy Lynn Warden, 56
Dennis Neil Johnson, Sr., 77
Sara Johns Johnson, 68
Lula Woicinski White, 71
Joann Lookingbill Ward, 30
Brooke Bryanne Ward, 5
Robert Michael Corrigan, 51
Shani Louise Corrigan, 51
Therese Sagan Rodriguez, 66
Ricardo Cardona Rodriguez, 64
Haley Krueger, 16
Emily Garcia, 7
Emily Rose Hill, 11
Gregory Lynn Hill, 13
Megan Gail Hill, 9
Marc Daniel Holcombe, 36
Noah Holcombe, 1
Karla Plain Holcombe, 58
John Bryan Holcombe, 60
Crystal Marie Holcombe (pregnant), 36
Carlin Brite "Billy Bob" Holcombe (unborn child), 0


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« Reply #97 on: November 08, 2017, 03:19:15 PM »
Slain Texas mass shooter's stay in San Diego brig was short, uneventful

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/military/sd-me-brig-miramar-20171107-story.html
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« Reply #98 on: November 08, 2017, 04:54:33 PM »
Was the shooter  a Manchurian Candidate? Mind control?

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=320414.msg1633148#msg1633148
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« Reply #99 on: November 08, 2017, 06:15:38 PM »
BREAKING: Active Shooter in Floresville

http://investmentwatchblog.com/breaking-active-shooter-in-floresville/

Floresville is just down the road from Sutherland Springs.

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« Reply #100 on: November 08, 2017, 07:06:11 PM »
Was the shooter  a Manchurian Candidate? Mind control?

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=320414.msg1633148#msg1633148
            I posted this before but couldn`t bring it back up, find it.( Sorry guys.) I clearly remember a study was made indicating 1 out of 1 hundred can be induced to kill, either they have been in a deadly situation or simply have the mentality to be used. That is just hypnotism. Not devils breath (Scopolamine) or induced mind control, this sounds like science fiction but it is real. I can`t say anything about this guy except his past is sadistic.
            An Argentine hypnotist, off the books in a private showing was capable of inducing a deep state in minutes, I watched this guy perform in a private arena, I knew some of the guys he put under, it was surreal.
            That said, they can pull the trigger on a humans mind, hell guys, MSM uses persuasive techniques every day, not hypno, suggestive persuasion based on constant repeats, images etc.

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« Reply #101 on: November 09, 2017, 10:12:10 AM »
The Texas Church Shooting: Aftermath - Stefan Molyneux (Airforce failed to put this very sick guys record in the database. Laws on the books not followed. Will anyone investigate this? Shows new laws will do nothing if the present ones are not even followed.)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W5T2Il8et4k
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« Reply #102 on: November 09, 2017, 10:23:45 AM »
Was the shooter  a Manchurian Candidate? Mind control?
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http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=320414.msg1633148#msg1633148

I find it strange this followed so quickly after the Vegas  attack ,,, possibly copycat triggered but man ...
no ones talking about Vegas anymore ...
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« Reply #103 on: November 09, 2017, 12:19:54 PM »
I find it strange this followed so quickly after the Vegas  attack ,,, possibly copycat triggered but man ...
no ones talking about Vegas anymore ...


Yep! They have plenty of wind up toys just waiting to be triggered.

This is why every real American must know self defense and take their 2nd Amendment seriously. This is only going to get worse until the globalists and their sick minions are rounded up and dealt with for their crimes against humanity.

Democrats, do you care about your families? Then you need to act like a real American and respect the 2nd Amendment.  It was created with your protection in mind also.







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« Reply #104 on: November 09, 2017, 12:23:52 PM »
How Many Mass Shooters Have Been Members Of The NRA?

Based on the arbitrary definition of a shooting involving at least four deaths, there had been 130 mass shootings in the United States as of June 6, 2017, going back over the last 51 years. (This does not include gang killings, killings that began as other crimes such as robberies, and killings that involved only the shooter’s family.)

Information about how the guns were obtained is incomplete, but 248 different guns were used, at least 141 of which were obtained legally and at least 39 of which were obtained illegally; handguns were the most common weapons used, usually more than one, each of which takes about two seconds to reload, making limited magazines (commonly incorrectly referred to as “clips”) a minor inconvenience. None of the shooters were known to be members of the NRA.

http://govtslaves.info/2017/11/how-many-mass-shooters-have-been-members-of-the-nra/

After every incident of gun violence, brainwashed leftists bitch about the NRA.  A former NRA shooting instructor stopped the Sutherland Springs killer.  Maybe it's retardation instead of brainwashing.  I'm full to the gills with mindless leftist parroting.

Check out the "Number One with a Bullet" video in my signature, below.  It's short and lays out the case on "gun violence" better than anything I've ever seen.

I pity anybody who's planning to shoot up a church in Texas in the near future.  As out attorney general said, we need more guns.  But nobody needed to be told.

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« Reply #105 on: November 09, 2017, 12:36:38 PM »
It must be a brain defect. Anyone with sense would want to protect their families from harm from criminals, especially in the current environment in America.

Do these Democrat parents not care about their families? What kind of parent are these people?

Their ignorance and uncaring attitude towards their own family is truly astounding!



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« Reply #107 on: November 09, 2017, 06:11:02 PM »
The Texas Church Shooting: Aftermath - Stefan Molyneux (Airforce failed to put this very sick guys record in the database. Laws on the books not followed. Will anyone investigate this? Shows new laws will do nothing if the present ones are not even followed.)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W5T2Il8et4k
  The AirForce spokesperson said they are on it, OK, that indicates it will go away.
   The MSM told us the FBI is on the LV slaughter, OK ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~.
                       Being fed a Sh**t sandwich without the bread, enough is enough. The DOJ is the big face of our justice system, the loyalty of this crew is going down the ole Sh**ter along with the FBI`s.

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« Reply #108 on: November 09, 2017, 09:46:14 PM »
EXCLUSIVE: Texas Massacre Hero, Stephen Willeford, Describes Stopping Gunman | Louder With Crowder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4HEchh0XD8


He had an AR15 to match the criminals AR15. Anything less and the good guy could have not been as successful at shooting the bastard and stopping him! He would have been out powered due to the gun and body armor the bastard wore.

THIS MAN IS A HERO WHO STOPPED THE MURDERER, AND ANYONE WHO SAYS HE WASNT IS A LIAR!

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« Reply #109 on: November 10, 2017, 07:52:32 AM »
Cop shoots himself in leg while lecturing on guns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am-Qdx6vky0&feature=youtu.be

This is a very strange video.  Shows how dangerous guns can be.  Also shows that you need to learn how to defend yourself, not rely on others.

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« Reply #110 on: November 10, 2017, 10:01:29 AM »
Cop shoots himself in leg while lecturing on guns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am-Qdx6vky0&feature=youtu.be

Shows how dangerous guns can be. 


More properly put, it’s the mishandling of guns, or not learning how to handle them, thats dangerous.


Operating a car can be dangerous until you learn how to do so. The same can apply to many things in life.
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« Reply #111 on: November 10, 2017, 11:49:04 AM »
EVERY CHURCH NEEDS A SECURITY PROTOCOL'
http://www.wnd.com/2017/11/every-church-needs-a-security-protocol/


Christians are under attack worldwide. When will you protect yourselves?
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« Reply #112 on: November 10, 2017, 08:32:15 PM »
Here's a revealing interview with a resident of the small town who talked to the families involved:

http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2017/11/09/stunning-insider-interview-with-a-sutherland-springs-citizen-the-truth-is-not-being-told/
Vonda Smith from Sutherland Springs, Texas
 Vonda recounted two stories of where the crime scene was invaded and nobody was guarding the evidence so to speak. Most telling was the fact that many of the bodies never went to the morgue for an autopsy.  ......
The vast majority of the family member of the victims, as of Wednesday evening have not been allowed to identify their fallen relatives.
Vonda related the story of one family that was dictated to by the FBI what kind of funeral they were going to have. According to Vonda, the FBI told one family how much of the body they would be permitted to view. Additionally, the family was told whether the casket would remain open or closed.  ....
Vonda clearly stated that the FBI was throwing deliberate roadblocks into body identification by demanding that the family had to have both the social security card and the birth certificate of the victim.   ....
Vonda recounted the eyewitness testimony of a nine year old child who survived the attack. The girl clearly and personally told Vonda that the assailant put a gun to his own head and shot himself.



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Re: BREAKING NEWS - A Shooting in a Baptist church near San Antonio Texas
« Reply #113 on: November 11, 2017, 08:37:33 AM »
CHURCH WARNS WOULD-BE MASS SHOOTERS: ‘WE ARE NOT A GUN-FREE ZONE’ (Every church should do this. Let would be perps know they will end up like the Texas shooter.)

https://www.infowars.com/church-warns-would-be-mass-shooters-we-are-not-a-gun-free-zone/
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Re: BREAKING NEWS - A Shooting in a Baptist church near San Antonio Texas
« Reply #114 on: November 11, 2017, 08:41:02 AM »
Here's a revealing interview with a resident of the small town who talked to the families involved:

http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2017/11/09/stunning-insider-interview-with-a-sutherland-springs-citizen-the-truth-is-not-being-told/
Vonda Smith from Sutherland Springs, Texas
 Vonda recounted two stories of where the crime scene was invaded and nobody was guarding the evidence so to speak. Most telling was the fact that many of the bodies never went to the morgue for an autopsy.  ......
The vast majority of the family member of the victims, as of Wednesday evening have not been allowed to identify their fallen relatives.
Vonda related the story of one family that was dictated to by the FBI what kind of funeral they were going to have. According to Vonda, the FBI told one family how much of the body they would be permitted to view. Additionally, the family was told whether the casket would remain open or closed.  ....
Vonda clearly stated that the FBI was throwing deliberate roadblocks into body identification by demanding that the family had to have both the social security card and the birth certificate of the victim.   ....
Vonda recounted the eyewitness testimony of a nine year old child who survived the attack. The girl clearly and personally told Vonda that the assailant put a gun to his own head and shot himself.

This looks like  propaganda!

For example, The shooter drove away, so no way he shot himself at the church. He shot himself after he tried to escape and was shot by a brave citizen and caught.

Since part of this is a lie, best question the rest.
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Re: BREAKING NEWS - A Shooting in a Baptist church near San Antonio Texas
« Reply #115 on: November 11, 2017, 09:13:44 AM »
^^^

... 'antifa', 'black lives matter' and all the other SOROS/DEM/BOLSHEVIK
groups are not 'card carrying' ... all very loosey-goosey, social-media-powered
bands of stoned-out losers looking to beat up or kill normal, sane people.
So, if this disgusting, murderous left-wingnut POS looks like a duck, and
walks like a duck, he is a f'king soros/antifa duck ... no matter how
rigorously the MSM tries to hide the fact.

WND has produced this 'Special Report' about the ANTIFA nut cases ...
I have scanned thru most of it, seems very well done in an attempt
to understand WTF is going on with these morons. I wanted to post
it here as it does speak strongly about the nature of the beast, being
a worldview ... NOT an 'organization'. It is at the link:

http://www.wnd.com/files/2017/10/ANTIFA.pdf



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ANTIFA IN ITS OWN WORDS
Antifa is not just an organization. Nor is anti-fascism simply a tactic. It is a worldview, indeed, a kind of way of life. And to be Antifa is to engage in a kind of eternal counterinsurgency against human nature itself.

According to Antifa, it exists to prevent fascists from orga- nizing, attaining power, and using violence against marginal- ized communities. It is not a slur, nor a mischaracterization, to identify the movement as an outgrowth of the extreme Left.

Those identifying as Antifa are, almost without exception, communists, socialists or left-anarchists, and the movement grew out of communist and socialist organizations. The iconog- raphy used by Antifa today is the same as that used by German communists and socialists of the early 1930s; though Antifa will attack a swastika or other Far Right symbols on sight, the hammer and sickle or the red flag are commonly displayed during its demonstrations.

Yet Antifa usually is not simply an armed wing of a particular communist or socialist party. Though those calling themselves Antifa may indeed be members of a particular leftist organiza- tion, sometimes they are not. Indeed, the tensions between leftist parties seeking political power and the street fighters of Antifa have often led to conflicts within organizations.
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Re: BREAKING NEWS - A Shooting in a Baptist church near San Antonio Texas
« Reply #116 on: November 11, 2017, 11:14:05 AM »
This looks like  propaganda!

For example, The shooter drove away, so no way he shot himself at the church. He shot himself after he tried to escape and was shot by a brave citizen and caught.

Since part of this is a lie, best question the rest.

I don't discount the testimony completely. The part about shooting himself in the head came from a 9 year old. Even Vonda admitted that the story changed coming from a child.

If the FBI is bullying or threatening the families into silence, then this needs to be broadcast far and wide. It's a long-established MO of this particular agency whenever something is being covered up.
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Re: BREAKING NEWS - A Shooting in a Baptist church near San Antonio Texas
« Reply #117 on: November 11, 2017, 11:32:40 AM »


If the FBI is bullying or threatening the families into silence, then this needs to be broadcast far and wide. It's a long-established MO of this particular agency whenever something is being covered up.



You make a good point on this issue. More need to come out and confirm this is happening.

These agencies are out of control and many times are seen as working with the perps.  I agree, this has to be exposed. Where are the real men in these agencies? You are suppose to be experts, yet you cant see the scum among you?
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Re: BREAKING NEWS - A Shooting in a Baptist church near San Antonio Texas
« Reply #118 on: November 11, 2017, 11:37:02 AM »
Thx Jackson, for the link to WND Antifa report. All need to read.
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Re: BREAKING NEWS - A Shooting in a Baptist church near San Antonio Texas
« Reply #119 on: November 11, 2017, 02:54:24 PM »
.... The shooter drove away, so no way he shot himself at the church. He shot himself after he tried to escape and was shot by a brave citizen and caught.

If there were two shooters, as some have said, one of them might have indeed been dead inside the church.