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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2017, 02:50:15 PM »
Initial reports 27 deceased, 24 injured - UNCONFIRMED - REPORTED BY Wilson County Texas Commissioner Albert Gamez, Jr

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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2017, 03:26:16 PM »
AT LEAST 27 DEAD IN SOUTH TEXAS CHURCH MASS SHOOTING - Police said there have been multiple victims, but it is not yet known how many

https://www.infowars.com/multiple-dead-in-south-texas-church-mass-shooting/
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2017, 05:54:51 PM »
BNO news says shooter is 26 year old Devin Kelley

https://mobile.twitter.com/BNONews


http://bnonews.com/news/index.php/news/id6701

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Witnesses said the gunman entered the church and opened fire at dozens of worshippers who were gathered there for a Sunday service. Pastor Frank Pomeroy, who was out of town with his wife, said their 14-year-old daughter is among those who were killed.

The shooter, who has been identified as 26-year-old Devin Kelley from Comal County, fled the scene in a vehicle and was pursued by local deputies. County officials said Kelley was killed during the chase, though it was not immediately clear how he died.



Is this the same guy? Enter Kelley, Devin for 4 traffic violations in Comal County (If this is the guy, his middle name is Patrick)

http://public.co.comal.tx.us/Search.aspx?ID=100
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Re: BREAKING NEWS - A Shooting in a Baptist church near San Antonio Texas
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2017, 06:03:40 PM »
Dems renew calls for gun control in wake of Texas church shooting

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/358868-democrats-renew-calls-for-gun-control-in-wake-of-texas-church-shooting

These shameless people need to be shunned.  Physically shunned on the floor of the senate or the house of reps.  Others need to just turn their backs on them and issue a statement about the shameless behavior of trying to capitalize on tragedy.

I wish Gov Abbott would send the Texas Rangers to take control of the crime scene.  He has the authority to do that.  It's what Ann Richards should have done at the Branch Davidian church in Waco, but she was a buddy of the Clintons.  The FBI destroyed evidence at Waco.

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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2017, 06:21:20 PM »


Gun control enthusiasts and DEMS need to understand their sheer stupidity (related to the antifa?) is hanging out their rears.  Gun controls are already in place.  Gun controls do not stop criminals.  Chicago is a fantastic example of this.  Many States have lifted gun controls to fix the problem that gun controls make -- mainly, criminals running wild.    Guns do not kill people, people kill people.  Get a gun, learn to use it -- if you want peace and safety.  Get the stupids out of our Congress and our government on all levels.  Like they should have something to say about what is what? sheesh

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Re: BREAKING NEWS - A Shooting in a Baptist church near San Antonio Texas
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2017, 06:30:15 PM »
BNO news says shooter is 26 year old Devin Kelley

Posted 30 min ago. Heavy.com has ALL the details as usual. Makes me wonder about that site.

Devin Kelley: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
https://heavy.com/news/2017/11/devin-kelley-p-sutherland-springs-church-shooter-patrick-kelly/

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The shooter was “now ID’d by authorities; white male in his 20s from outside San Antonio,” reported Mike Levine, a journalist for ABC News. “Authorities are now scrubbing his social media; on Facebook in recent days, he showed off an AR-15 style-looking gun.” After opening fire inside the church, reports say, the gunman took off in a vehicle. Not soon after the shooting, though, he was also reported to be dead.

Kelley’s Facebook page has now been deleted. His profile picture showed two small children. According to The Daily Beast, “Kelley was married and Kelley’s mother-in-law listed a P.O. box in Sutherland Springs as a mailing address. San Antonio police reportedly raided Kelley’s home on Sunday evening…he briefly taught at a summer Bible school.”

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Some accounts on social media said there might be more than one shooter. However, authorities believe only Kelley was the shooter.

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Re: BREAKING NEWS - A Shooting in a Baptist church near San Antonio Texas
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2017, 06:43:31 PM »
Posted 30 min ago. Heavy.com has ALL the details as usual. Makes me wonder about that site.

Devin Kelley: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
https://heavy.com/news/2017/11/devin-kelley-p-sutherland-springs-church-shooter-patrick-kelly/


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« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2017, 06:45:04 PM »
Live Press Conference JUST STARTED!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZix8c_ZJCI


http://www.abc15.com/news/national/reports-gunman-wounds-several-during-sunday-church-service-in-texas

Just reported by Region 6 San Antonio DPS Dir Martin Freeman: a good guy neighbor near church with a rifle heard what was happening and shot at suspect, and pursued him. He left and wrecked his car. They dont know if the good guy killed him or he killed himself.

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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2017, 06:56:43 PM »
Armed local guy shot at the shooter and caused him to break away.

No need for gun control.


not the actual armed parishioner
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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2017, 07:02:55 PM »
Armed local guy shot at the shooter and caused him to break away.

No need for gun control.


Exactly! The Democrats (and others) are stuck on stupid on this issue! They parrott the same nonsense every time!

Vote out anyone calling for gun control. That is not the issue!
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Re: BREAKING NEWS - A Shooting in a Baptist church near San Antonio Texas
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2017, 07:13:55 PM »


Ahhhh!!  The drill:

https://www.ksat.com/news/expect-loud-simulated-gunfire-from-active-shooter-exercise-at-jbsa-lackland
Posted:  October 21, 2017
SAN ANTONIO - The Texas Air National Guard will conduct an active shooter training exercise at Joint Base San Antonio - Lackland on Sunday.

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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2017, 07:16:57 PM »
How Switzerland Developed a Gun Culture That Works | TIME.com
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Re: BREAKING NEWS - A Shooting in a Baptist church near San Antonio Texas
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2017, 07:19:18 PM »
Armed local guy shot at the shooter and caused him to break away.

No need for gun control.


not the actual armed parishioner

Ya got to wonder where all the men in the church were; every man should have been armed. And for that matter the women too, but a least the men.
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« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2017, 07:22:36 PM »

Ahhhh!!  The drill:

https://www.ksat.com/news/expect-loud-simulated-gunfire-from-active-shooter-exercise-at-jbsa-lackland
Posted:  October 21, 2017
SAN ANTONIO - The Texas Air National Guard will conduct an active shooter training exercise at Joint Base San Antonio - Lackland on Sunday.

That would have been exactly 2 weeks ago to the day
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« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2017, 07:25:18 PM »
26 dead after gunman opens fire inside Texas church

http://www.wbaltv.com/article/texas-church-shooting/13303721


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Martin says the suspect then fled the church where he returned fire with an armed civilian. The civilian chased the suspect who attempted to flee in a vehicle. The suspect was later killed by a gunshot wound, although it is unclear if the shot was self-inflicted or from the armed civilian.


THIS ARMED CITIZEN IS A HERO AND EXAMPLE TO ALL AMERICANS. HE DESERVES A COMMENDATION FOR HIS BRAVERY.

THIS PUNK COULD HAVE GOTTEN AWAY, HAD THIS CITIZEN NOT USED HIS 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHT GRANTED TO ALL AMERICANS!


THE HERO:
http://927thevan.com/news/articles/2017/nov/05/several-people-shot-at-texas-church-witnesses-tell-cbs-affiliate/

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Jeff Forrest, a 36-year-old military veteran who lives a block away from the church, said what sounded like high-caliber, semi-automatic gunfire triggered memories of his four combat deployments with the Marine Corps.

“I was on the porch, I heard 10 rounds go off and then my ears just started ringing,” Forrest said. “I hit the deck and I just lay there."


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The shooting occurred on the eighth anniversary of the Nov. 5, 2009 massacre of 13 people at the Fort Hood Army base in central Texas. A U.S. Army Medical Corps psychiatrist convicted of the killings is now awaiting execution.

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UPDATE: THE STORY HAS CHANGED. THIS GUY IS THE REAL HERO
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Re: BREAKING NEWS - A Shooting in a Baptist church near San Antonio Texas
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2017, 07:38:23 PM »
Everybody's squawking about a motive. According to heavy.com the guy was an E-1, court martialed, dishonorable discharge in 2014. Good luck getting a job at McDonald's after that. Ain't nobody going to hire somebody with that profile.

Secondly, his FB page shows an interest in atheism. So he probably didn't care much for church people. Atheists tend to be angry at God deep down inside.



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« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2017, 07:42:20 PM »
I'm surprised that anyone (adult) goes to church unarmed.  Churches have become such targets.  Ten years ago an ex cop stopped a shooting at her church.  Just looked it up.  It was this incident:

...In Colorado Springs, Colo., in 2007, Matthew Murray killed four people at a church. He was then shot several times by Jeanne Assam, a church member, volunteer security guard and former police officer (she had been dismissed by a police department 10 years before, and to my knowledge hadn’t worked as a police officer since). Murray, knocked down and badly wounded, killed himself...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/10/03/do-civilians-with-guns-ever-stop-mass-shootings/?utm_term=.3375fc074b4b

Surprisingly good article from the hated WaPo about people who have stopped shootings.

Churchgoers need to arm themselves.  Jesus would have understood.  "...he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."  Luke 22:36

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« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2017, 07:48:00 PM »
http://trending-topics.co/search.php?g=philadelphia&u=Devin+Patrick+Kelley

Was he an Antifa member? Sure looks that way!

https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=%23Antifa

https://mobile.twitter.com/Thombene77/status/927320051132268544/photo/1


http://yournewswire.com/texas-church-shooter-antifa/amp/

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Devin Kelly, who killed at least 27 people and injured many more, was one of two shooters in the church, according to eyewitnesses, who also report Kelly carried an Antifa flag and told the churchgoers “this is a communist revolution” before unloading on the congregation, reloading several times.


http://yournewswire.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/23318692_10156234861450715_2136781463_n.png


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Re: BREAKING NEWS - A Shooting in a Baptist church near San Antonio Texas
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2017, 08:08:07 PM »
https://news.grabien.com/story-texas-dept-public-safety-armed-citizen-engaged-killer-ending
Texas Rangers: Armed Citizen ‘Engaged’ Killer, Ending Rampage
‘A local resident grabbed his rifle and engaged that suspect’
Nov 5, 2017

... mass shooting in Sutherland Springs, Texas, was only halted after an armed Texan "engaged" the killer and put an end to the rampage, the Texas Rangers reported.

Freeman Martin, a major in the Texas Rangers and a spokesman for the Texas Department of Public Safety, says the suspect dropped his rifle and fled after being confronted by a local man who had grabbed his rifle.
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« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2017, 08:16:58 PM »
Witness describes seeing church shooter flee (Video: Firsthand account of witness right across the street. He is a medic and tried to help. The killer shot at him and bullet hit his house. Very sad!)

http://www.kens5.com/news/local/witness-describes-seeing-church-shooter-flee-church/489320049

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« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2017, 09:52:32 PM »
The Antifa angle on this shooting seems bogus, but who knows?  Maybe Antifa will start claiming credit for killings now, like other terrorist organizations do.  Hopefully they'll leave cookie trails for the law to follow.

This killer could have been on heavy-duty meds.  Sounds like his life wasn't going too well, so he could have been drugged up.  Or just naturally nuts.  Maybe that's why he was discharged.  And the military has been known to brainwash soldiers, so there's that possibility.  But this one didn't put a bullet in his brain like most of the Manchurian types do.  Those guys act like they're sticking to a program--murder then suicide.  This guy ran.  Not for long, but he ran.

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« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2017, 09:55:10 PM »
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas/2017/11/05/reported-shooting-baptist-church-town-near-san-antonio

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The Pentagon confirmed the suspected shooter was an airman in the Air Force "at one point," but did not provide additional details.

An Air Force spokeswoman said records confirm Kelley served in Logistics Readiness at Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico from 2010 until he left the military.

He had been dishonorably discharged after a court martial, according to CBS News.
Department of Defense records show a man by the same name served in the Air Force from January 2010 to May 2014.

DPS issued Kelley a private security license this year.

The department did not answer questions about whether a dishonorable discharge from the military would prevent someone from getting a DPS-issued private security license.



People who live near the home said they had heard intense gunfire from that direction in recent days.

State troopers and a Comal County Sheriff's Office vehicle blocked the gate that opens up to the large family property in a rural part of the city.

Several neighbors said that in recent weeks someone at the residence had been leaving expensive items including couches, recliners and bikes at the curb.
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« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2017, 10:15:21 PM »
I live about 70 miles northwest of Sutherland Springs.  Rural areas, sound of shooting is pretty common, especially from ranches, raw land and the like.  Lots of people do lots of target practice.  I read that this guy was a local in Sutherland Springs, which is a small, unincorporated town, and I've also read that he was from New Braunsfels.  That's a town of some size on I-35.

He couldn't have bought a firearm, with a dishonorable discharge.  No new laws needed, just enforce the ones we have.

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« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2017, 10:36:26 PM »
^^^

... from jofortruth's link ... two shooters ... ANTIFA ... MARX: Das Kapital




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« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2017, 02:18:37 AM »


Communism is not ok.  Not Before, During, or After their "revolutions."  You cannot tell me the agencies don't know who are communists in our Country.  They should be rounded up, educated or deported to their communist country of choice.

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« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2017, 05:54:30 AM »

Details of shooter's life
   
 

'Creepy, Crazy and Weird': Texas Church Gunman Devin Kelley Was 'Outcast' Who 'Preached Atheism' Online

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com

Former classmates of Texas church shooter Devin Kelley say he was a ‘creepy’, ‘crazy’ and ‘weird,’ person who preached about atheism on the internet. On Sunday, Kelley opened fire inside First Baptist Church of Sutherland Springs, outside of San Antonio, killing 26 people and injuring 24. Photo credit: Daily Mail UK Daily Mail UK reports: Patrick Boyce, …

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« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2017, 07:54:39 AM »
He might have been planning to go to other churches, exiting the way he did.  There are lots of small towns around there and he must have known the back roads.  So it looks as if he had a plan.  We used to dove hunt in that area when I was a kid.  Hunters have their deer rifles zeroed in this time of year, so he couldn't have got far.

I wonder, with his "atheism," if he belonged to any groups that encourage shooting up churches.  I wonder if the idea originated with him or was planted.  That's the kind of stuff that the FBI would know.  Is there a digital trail of exchanges?

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« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2017, 08:11:56 AM »
^^^

... 'antifa', 'black lives matter' and all the other SOROS/DEM/BOLSHEVIK
groups are not 'card carrying' ... all very loosey-goosey, social-media-powered
bands of stoned-out losers looking to beat up or kill normal, sane people.
So, if this disgusting, murderous left-wingnut POS looks like a duck, and
walks like a duck, he is a f'king soros/antifa duck ... no matter how
rigorously the MSM tries to hide the fact.
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« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2017, 08:15:32 AM »
He might have been planning to go to other churches, exiting the way he did.  There are lots of small towns around there and he must have known the back roads.  So it looks as if he had a plan.  We used to dove hunt in that area when I was a kid.  Hunters have their deer rifles zeroed in this time of year, so he couldn't have got far.

I wonder, with his "atheism," if he belonged to any groups that encourage shooting up churches.  I wonder if the idea originated with him or was planted.  That's the kind of stuff that the FBI would know.  Is there a digital trail of exchanges?

You probably right on all points and then some; obviously a product created by the whole MKULTA scheme, as we are starting to realize this thing is orchestrated by the evil among us.

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« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2017, 08:20:54 AM »
Another hero! This guy was sitting in his truck and the good citizen with rifle told him what happenened and said he needed him to drive and follow the killer. The two men then chased the killer down, and stopped him from probably reloading and killing more people. THIS IS WHAT A REAL MAN DOES IN THE FACE OF EVIL. THANK YOU, REAL AMERICAN MEN!

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas/2017/11/05/reported-shooting-baptist-church-town-near-san-antonio

https://dallasnews.imgix.net/1509944027-JUMP_pursuit.jpg?auto=format&q=50&or=0&w=800

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Johnny Langendorff, who was one of the men who said they pursued a suspect of a deadly church shooting, waits to be picked up from the scene where the suspect was found dead

Woman says boyfriend chased Sutherland Springs church shooting suspect
https://www.ksat.com/news/woman-says-boyfriend-gave-chase-to-sutherland-springs-church-shooting-suspect
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« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2017, 08:30:08 AM »
Antifa ?

Like spot the Riech-Wing obsession.... lol
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« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2017, 08:33:16 AM »
Antifa ?

Like spot the Riech-Wing obsession.... lol
Did you not learn nothing from the last great AntiFa Hoax Uprising ?


Eg, You continue acting like a libtard child trying to pick a fight just like Antifa and goons. Do you really support violent groups like antifa? Thats beneath you. Whats wrong with you? You are no longer the nice and reasonable guy we all met in this forum years ago. Sad!

There is nothing cool about the violent actions of any of these childish Soros funded groups. They are losers.

They are regressive, not progressive. If they dont like their country, they need to get the hell out. They are not true Americans. True Americans reject these rejects.
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« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2017, 08:48:19 AM »

Eg, You continue acting like a libtard child trying to pick a fight just like Antifa and goons. Do you really support violent groups like antifa? Thats beneath you. Whats wrong with you? You are no longer the nice and reasonable guy we all met in this forum years ago. Sad!

I got temporary banned for asking essentially the same question; EG use to have reasonable dialog, but he got Islam moved from Secret Societies to the black hole of religion, said that Tommy Robinson was a neo Nazi among other odd statements.
He has be kind to me at times and PM me with real information, but I have to question if EG is EG?
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Re: BREAKING NEWS - A Shooting in a Baptist church near San Antonio Texas
« Reply #35 on: November 06, 2017, 08:53:00 AM »

but I have to question if EG is EG?



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Re: BREAKING NEWS - A Shooting in a Baptist church near San Antonio Texas
« Reply #36 on: November 06, 2017, 09:05:33 AM »
Texas shooter Devin Kelley court-martialed for domestic abuse
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-church-shooter-devin-kelley-court-martialed-2012-article-1.3613635

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In 2012, he was court-martialed after being accused of assaulting his spouse and child, spokeswoman Ann Stefanek said.

Kelley was confined for 12 months and was reduced to E-1 rank, airman basic, which is the lowest rank possible.

He received a bad conduct discharge in 2014, which does not prohibit the possession of firearms, unlike a dishonorable discharge.


... And yet the DPS gave him some type of security guard license? Insane!


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/11/revealed-texas-church-killer-devin-kelley-court-martialed-assaulting-wife-child/

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US Air Force to VOA #texasshooting 1/3 Devin P. Kelley was former USAF member-served at Holloman AFB NM, from 2010 until discharge in 2014. Kelley was court-martialed in 2012 for two counts of Article 128 UCMJ–assault on his spouse and assault on their child. Air Force to VOA-Kelley received a Bad Conduct Discharge, confinement for 12 months & a reduction to the grade of E-1,” tweeted VOA’s Carla Babb

Here is the case number:
No. 14-0387/AF.  U.S. v. Devin P. KELLEY.  CCA 38267.

According to McMilitary Law: States have laws for gun control for court martial cases.
Will I be able to own firearms?

Federal and state laws do place restrictions on the purchase of firearms by those convicted of felonies. 18 USC § 922(b). Many jurisdictions distinguish between violent and non-violent offenses.

It was against the law for Devin to own firearms.

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Re: BREAKING NEWS - A Shooting in a Baptist church near San Antonio Texas
« Reply #37 on: November 06, 2017, 09:11:49 AM »
TEXAS GUNMAN WAS AN ‘OUTCAST’ WHO ‘PREACHED HIS ATHEISM’ ONLINE BEFORE KILLING 26 ‘Creepy, crazy and weird’

https://www.infowars.com/texas-gunman-was-an-outcast-who-preached-his-atheism-online-before-killing-26/


TRUMP: ‘WE HAVE A LOT OF MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS IN OUR COUNTRY’ - “Fortunately, somebody else had a gun that was shooting in the opposite direction, otherwise it would have been…much worse.”
https://www.infowars.com/trump-we-have-a-lot-of-mental-health-problems-in-our-country/
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Re: BREAKING NEWS - A Shooting in a Baptist church near San Antonio Texas
« Reply #38 on: November 06, 2017, 09:25:30 AM »
Neighbor who watched shooting unfold says gunman unloaded at least 6 clips on church
https://www.ksat.com/news/neighbor-who-watched-shooting-unfold-says-gunman-unloaded-at-least-6-clips-on-church

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”I went to the window to look and I see an armed man dressed in riot gear -- I guess that's what you call it -- SWAT gear," Curnow said. "Fully masked, fully armored. He was just shooting the church from the outside."

Curnow said the gunman, identified Sunday night as Devin Patrick Kelley, "kept unloading clip after clip." He said Kelley went to a white SUV to reload his assault rifle, then went into the church where Curnow estimates Kelley unloaded another three clips of ammo. It's unclear how many rounds were fired.

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Curnow said he heard gunfire from a second gun and realized it was his neighbor returning fire on Kelley, causing Kelley to drop his own rifle, get into the white SUV and speed away from the scene.



Curnow said he went to the church to keep concerned and curious spectators from entering. He said many people showed up at the church wanting to know what happened and if their families were safe.


Notice how many citizens went to the aid of their fellow citizens. All of these people are heroes and real Americans.
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Re: BREAKING NEWS - A Shooting in a Baptist church near San Antonio Texas
« Reply #39 on: November 06, 2017, 09:58:56 AM »
It would definitely be prudent to carry a pistol into church nowadays, especially if you're with family.  Something small and inconspicuous, a .32 maybe, at least to shoot the guy in the foot and then put one in his head when he falls.

I was glad to see the Texas Rangers at the press conference yesterday.  They should look at the FBI for possible involvement in setting this up.  The FBI likes to recruit people to send into violent situations.  The shooting in Garland, Texas a couple of years ago is a good example:

“Tear up Texas”: How the FBI played a central role in the first ISIS attack on U.S. soil

https://www.salon.com/2017/03/30/tear-up-texas-how-the-fbi-played-a-central-role-in-the-first-isis-attack-on-u-s-soil_partner/

So, the Rangers should definitely look at the FBI for possible involvement in setting this up.  Did the shooter have contact with the FBI?  Was he recruited by them?  Are there any text messages from the FBI on his digital devices?  It looks like he was pretty active on social media, so there will be records that the Rangers can trace.